Comments on: Swift a Possibility? http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/ The One-Stop Shop for Hopeful Knick Fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Loveofthegame05 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2111 Loveofthegame05 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:04:30 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2111 @tommy dee I've watched Stro Swift play a little bit for the Nets and I have to say for the knicks I respectfully disagree on offering him the MLE. My philosophy is that when you have possible headaches in Marbury+Randolph then you don't need to aquire any more of them. I know Swift has talent but I can understand why this guy can't stay on one team....I watched him last year argue with a referee for 10 seconds why a loose ball was being pursued right behind him. Obviously the talent and athleticism is there with Stro Swift but you gotta make sure his head is in the right place...Little bit like Glenn Robinson @tommy dee

I’ve watched Stro Swift play a little bit for the Nets and I have to say for the knicks I respectfully disagree on offering him the MLE.

My philosophy is that when you have possible headaches in Marbury+Randolph then you don’t need to aquire any more of them. I know Swift has talent but I can understand why this guy can’t stay on one team….I watched him last year argue with a referee for 10 seconds why a loose ball was being pursued right behind him.

Obviously the talent and athleticism is there with Stro Swift but you gotta make sure his head is in the right place…Little bit like Glenn Robinson

]]> By: richierich http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2106 richierich Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:02:28 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2106 yeah its a long shot..i wrote that not knowing baron opted out this morning..than i see the warriors giving him around 8...my point was based around baron staying with the warriors.The knicks would have to obvis. give him more years for him to even consider it..my MAIN point was to say that id rather take sprewell out of his mansion than swift..i would really love to sign artest..hes just personally one of my fav players..he could knock out players in the lockeroom that dont giva fuck..i mean he did say he doesnt play for the money right?ahah..walsh wouldnt do it anyway yeah its a long shot..i wrote that not knowing baron opted out this morning..than i see the warriors giving him around 8…my point was based around baron staying with the warriors.The knicks would have to obvis. give him more years for him to even consider it..my MAIN point was to say that id rather take sprewell out of his mansion than swift..i would really love to sign artest..hes just personally one of my fav players..he could knock out players in the lockeroom that dont giva fuck..i mean he did say he doesnt play for the money right?ahah..walsh wouldnt do it anyway

]]> By: vino http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2101 vino Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:51:14 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2101 Yeah Tommy, you are right. There is no way Ellis goes for the MLE, and if he does accept it, the Mullin would match it with the largest smile that he would ever have. If I were to guess, I would say a 5 year, 45 million dollar deal would be the starting point for him, and that might even get it done. If he was in the league longer, he might even be able ot get more, but I would guess he's going to get 9 mill (maybe 8). The only way we get him is if we trade Lee for him. Yeah Tommy, you are right. There is no way Ellis goes for the MLE, and if he does accept it, the Mullin would match it with the largest smile that he would ever have.

If I were to guess, I would say a 5 year, 45 million dollar deal would be the starting point for him, and that might even get it done. If he was in the league longer, he might even be able ot get more, but I would guess he’s going to get 9 mill (maybe 8).

The only way we get him is if we trade Lee for him.

]]> By: MetsBlog.com » Links: Around the SNY Blog Network http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2100 MetsBlog.com » Links: Around the SNY Blog Network Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:46:32 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2100 [...] Dee, at theKnicksBlog.com, wonders if Stromile Swift would fit in with the [...] [...] Dee, at theKnicksBlog.com, wonders if Stromile Swift would fit in with the [...]

]]> By: Tommy Dee http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2099 Tommy Dee Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:43:56 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2099 Richie rich- how can you joke the post then say sign Ellis to the MLE? He's going to demand far more than 5.5, that's an easy one, he's an up and coming star, hence why Baron opted out. Thanks for the posts as always, TD Richie rich- how can you joke the post then say sign Ellis to the MLE?

He’s going to demand far more than 5.5, that’s an easy one, he’s an up and coming star, hence why Baron opted out.

Thanks for the posts as always,

TD

]]> By: vino http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2098 vino Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:33:15 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2098 I like Livingston. I do not think that he has a qualifying offer outstading either. I am not sure if he is ready to play next year. Is he? I would love for the Knicks to take on a guy like Livingston. Richie, you are right. The Knicks need to take a few short-term risks in order to help them in the future. That is why I would like to see guys like Livingston, Shelden WIlliams, Chris Duhon, Gerald Green, among others be brought in here to compete. Create a competitve atmosphere with young kids, with a likeable down-to-earth players coach in D'Antoni, and you might have the start of something here in New York. Overrated bums, like Stro Swift, have not worked here in New York. The Knicks players know that they have nothing to lose. I think it is about time that the Knicks bring in a couple of guys who have plenty to lose. Let's find out who is hungry enough to stick. I like Livingston. I do not think that he has a qualifying offer outstading either. I am not sure if he is ready to play next year. Is he? I would love for the Knicks to take on a guy like Livingston. Richie, you are right. The Knicks need to take a few short-term risks in order to help them in the future. That is why I would like to see guys like Livingston, Shelden WIlliams, Chris Duhon, Gerald Green, among others be brought in here to compete. Create a competitve atmosphere with young kids, with a likeable down-to-earth players coach in D’Antoni, and you might have the start of something here in New York.

Overrated bums, like Stro Swift, have not worked here in New York. The Knicks players know that they have nothing to lose. I think it is about time that the Knicks bring in a couple of guys who have plenty to lose. Let’s find out who is hungry enough to stick.

]]> By: krumbledkookie http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2097 krumbledkookie Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:26:19 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2097 Reading all of this and looking around this team and the rest of the league at all of the various options, and than comparing them to the checklist of what this team needs to start to be competitive again, I truly appreciate what Donnie and Coach Mike have to do. They essentially are doing the job of a one-legged man in an a$$-kicking contest. I hate to use the cliche, but it works. I do not envy their situation, but will look on with amazement if they are able to accomplish half of what they're trying to do. Reading all of this and looking around this team and the rest of the league at all of the various options, and than comparing them to the checklist of what this team needs to start to be competitive again, I truly appreciate what Donnie and Coach Mike have to do. They essentially are doing the job of a one-legged man in an a$$-kicking contest. I hate to use the cliche, but it works.

I do not envy their situation, but will look on with amazement if they are able to accomplish half of what they’re trying to do.

]]> By: richierich http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2096 richierich Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:20:57 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2096 hahah yeah thats exactly what we need stromile swift...whata joke that post was..i would rather use are MLE on a guy like Monta Ellis. maybe couple other guys..all i know is i dont want stromile swift!..speaking about the clippers..Shaun Livingston catches my eye..he has a qualifying offer right now..just coming off an injury..he had alot of potential..still young..wouldnt mind him at the point this year..the only way the knicks are going to make these next couple yrs entertaining is by taking RISKS and hitting on those RISKS.. hahah yeah thats exactly what we need stromile swift…whata joke that post was..i would rather use are MLE on a guy like Monta Ellis. maybe couple other guys..all i know is i dont want stromile swift!..speaking about the clippers..Shaun Livingston catches my eye..he has a qualifying offer right now..just coming off an injury..he had alot of potential..still young..wouldnt mind him at the point this year..the only way the knicks are going to make these next couple yrs entertaining is by taking RISKS and hitting on those RISKS..

]]> By: vino http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2095 vino Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:51:47 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2095 If the Knicks were to make this move, it wouldn't be as awful as I make it sound. I like Swift, but I think there are better uses of our money and our other assets than to bring in Swift. Why has he not been able to stick on any team after being a number 2 overall pick? Talent? Cahracter? Desire? Hustle? What is it? If the Knicks were to make this move, it wouldn’t be as awful as I make it sound. I like Swift, but I think there are better uses of our money and our other assets than to bring in Swift.

Why has he not been able to stick on any team after being a number 2 overall pick? Talent? Cahracter? Desire? Hustle? What is it?

]]> By: vino http://www.theknicksblog.com/2008/07/01/swift-a-possibility/#comment-2094 vino Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:48:33 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=322#comment-2094 I am not saying that it would be an either/or with Nick Fazekas. We would either sign the guy for nothing or another team would sign him for nothing. What is the league minimum? That's what Fazekas would get from us. Nick Fazekas or Jerome James? Who would play more minutes next year. Buy him out and then we would have a spot to fill on the roster. Nick Fazekas or Randolph Morris? We need to fill our roster somehow. Why not bring in a collegiate stud who might just need a chance. It is an absolutely no-risk scenario. I also think you like Swift a bit too much. I like him too, but do you really see him helping us win games? I'd rather sign a pg to a MLE and then trade Nate for a shot-blocker. It is not like Stro Swift is the premier shot-blocker in the league. There are other guys who can be had that might be a better idea for this club going forward. Stro would simply be a stop-gap player, who wouldplay out two years here and never be heard from again on the Knicks. I'd rather sign a Beno Udrih or a Chris Duhon and then trade Nate to get a guy from another team that can block shots. Maybe Sean Williams of the Nets? Andray Blatche of the Wizards? Hakeem Warrick? Nick Collison? Hilton Armstrong? Hell I'd rather sign Adonyl Foyle to a small deal to back up at center and play defense than sign Swift to a full MLE. Maybe I overexagerrated with Foyle, but still. I'd rather not settle on Swift as I do not think that he has much of a future with the Knicks (for that price at least). I'd rather build a team for the long haul. I am not saying that it would be an either/or with Nick Fazekas.

We would either sign the guy for nothing or another team would sign him for nothing. What is the league minimum? That’s what Fazekas would get from us. Nick Fazekas or Jerome James? Who would play more minutes next year. Buy him out and then we would have a spot to fill on the roster. Nick Fazekas or Randolph Morris? We need to fill our roster somehow. Why not bring in a collegiate stud who might just need a chance. It is an absolutely no-risk scenario.

I also think you like Swift a bit too much. I like him too, but do you really see him helping us win games? I’d rather sign a pg to a MLE and then trade Nate for a shot-blocker.

It is not like Stro Swift is the premier shot-blocker in the league. There are other guys who can be had that might be a better idea for this club going forward. Stro would simply be a stop-gap player, who wouldplay out two years here and never be heard from again on the Knicks. I’d rather sign a Beno Udrih or a Chris Duhon and then trade Nate to get a guy from another team that can block shots. Maybe Sean Williams of the Nets? Andray Blatche of the Wizards? Hakeem Warrick? Nick Collison? Hilton Armstrong?

Hell I’d rather sign Adonyl Foyle to a small deal to back up at center and play defense than sign Swift to a full MLE.

Maybe I overexagerrated with Foyle, but still. I’d rather not settle on Swift as I do not think that he has much of a future with the Knicks (for that price at least). I’d rather build a team for the long haul.

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