Comments on: Atkins for Petro http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/ The One-Stop Shop for Hopeful Knick Fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DaJoka http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17030 DaJoka Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:42:13 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17030 I hear ya Biggie but what do you think we can get for Lee. Portland has the resources to give us and they want Lee. If Lee goes to Portland, they will certainly go deep into the playoffs. That trade would make them a better team than anyone in the west with the exception of La La Land in my opinion. I hate to say this but if Oden gets hurt, they'll wish they traded for Lee. They need a backup big that can come in and give them a double double every night. Who else in the league can do that for them that's available right now? Lee is the only double double guy on the block right now. It may come down to the trade deadline but I think the deal will get done sooner or later. If we trade Curry before then, maybe we can hang on to Lee. We'll see!!!! I hear ya Biggie but what do you think we can get for Lee.
Portland has the resources to give us and they want Lee.
If Lee goes to Portland, they will certainly go deep into the playoffs.
That trade would make them a better team than anyone in the west with the exception of La La Land in my opinion.
I hate to say this but if Oden gets hurt, they’ll wish they traded for Lee.
They need a backup big that can come in and give them a double double every night. Who else in the league can do that for them that’s available right now? Lee is the only double double guy on the block right now.
It may come down to the trade deadline but I think the deal will get done sooner or later.
If we trade Curry before then, maybe we can hang on to Lee.
We’ll see!!!!

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17026 BiggieSmalls Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:02:54 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17026 two youngs and a pick would be on the high end for Lee. I would not do one young and salary cap relief.-- Curry is the only real salary cap relief and I dont think selling at the absolute bottom of his value is prudent. This time next year I have no problem with Curry in the discussion One high end young and a decent pick sounds reasonable value. Or a useful player with a reasonable contract and two first round pics. First round pics can be leveraged on draft night to get lower and better players. It is not necessarily signing up for a player in the mid 20 range of the draft. two youngs and a pick would be on the high end for Lee.

I would not do one young and salary cap relief.– Curry is the only real salary cap relief and I dont think selling at the absolute bottom of his value is prudent. This time next year I have no problem with Curry in the discussion

One high end young and a decent pick sounds reasonable value. Or a useful player with a reasonable contract and two first round pics. First round pics can be leveraged on draft night to get lower and better players. It is not necessarily signing up for a player in the mid 20 range of the draft.

]]> By: DaJoka http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17023 DaJoka Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:38:33 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17023 I'm a fan of Salmons also but I would not trade him for Lee either. Lee is a player that averages a double double every night. There are not to many players in the league that put up a double double every night. We should be able to get 2 young players and a pick for Lee at the very least. Salmons is a good player but I would trade for him using some of our other pieces. The Kings could use Jeffries, Thomas or even that 4.5 mill trade exception (if we ever get it). No way I send Lee for Salmons. The salaries don't match anyway so we would have to include more in the deal. We need to hope that Portland keeps interest in Lee because they have the young guns that we need to get. Bayless, S-Rod, Outlaw and Fernandez. Not saying we should get all of them but we should at least be able to squeeze out 2. No rush though....I like how Donnie is working it. He's already done more good for this franchise than Isiah and Layden did put together. It's so funny how people sit and bash isiah but he's actually a great dude. He and Nate go to my barber shop and they are the most down to earth people in the world. Things will fall into place for us, we just have to be patient with Donnie. There is no quick fix for us. It's going to take at least a year. 2010 we will be contenders for the Chip no matter what. I’m a fan of Salmons also but I would not trade him for Lee either.
Lee is a player that averages a double double every night. There are not to many players in the league that put up a double double every night. We should be able to get 2 young players and a pick for Lee at the very least.
Salmons is a good player but I would trade for him using some of our other pieces. The Kings could use Jeffries, Thomas or even that 4.5 mill trade exception (if we ever get it). No way I send Lee for Salmons. The salaries don’t match anyway so we would have to include more in the deal.

We need to hope that Portland keeps interest in Lee because they have the young guns that we need to get. Bayless, S-Rod, Outlaw and Fernandez. Not saying we should get all of them but we should at least be able to squeeze out 2. No rush though….I like how Donnie is working it. He’s already done more good for this franchise than Isiah and Layden did put together. It’s so funny how people sit and bash isiah but he’s actually a great dude. He and Nate go to my barber shop and they are the most down to earth people in the world.

Things will fall into place for us, we just have to be patient with Donnie.
There is no quick fix for us. It’s going to take at least a year.
2010 we will be contenders for the Chip no matter what.

]]> By: italian stallion http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17021 italian stallion Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17021 My feeling is that the wisdom of trading Lee is dependent on what it would cost to keep him. He's a good player, but his value around the league right now is probably inflated a little because he's putting up good numbers. IMO he has had ideal circumstances to do so. So selling high is probably the right move, but it's hard to know what he's worth. The one thing I would be against is trading him for an older player that makes us better now, but worse in the long term. If we are going to move him, I want a player and/or picks that could be valuable 2-3 from now. My feeling is that the wisdom of trading Lee is dependent on what it would cost to keep him. He’s a good player, but his value around the league right now is probably inflated a little because he’s putting up good numbers. IMO he has had ideal circumstances to do so. So selling high is probably the right move, but it’s hard to know what he’s worth. The one thing I would be against is trading him for an older player that makes us better now, but worse in the long term. If we are going to move him, I want a player and/or picks that could be valuable 2-3 from now.

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17019 BiggieSmalls Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:46:40 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17019 I agree on the need to trade Lee. Trust me on that.. Ive been one of the chief proponents of trading him since the start of the season.. Brad Miller isnt a long term solution to anything but just a salary dump b4 10/11 At this point trading Curry before the deadline doesnt seem like a reality. He has too few games to wipe the stink off his reputation. Jeffries isnt a concern because his contract is very reasonable. Even if he never touches the ball on offense. I just think there are better deals out there for Lee than Salmons and salary cap relief.. You are 100% right in your thinking though but I think the opportunity to get 2 young players or One and a good draft pick is out there. I agree on the need to trade Lee. Trust me on that.. Ive been one of the chief proponents of trading him since the start of the season..

Brad Miller isnt a long term solution to anything but just a salary dump b4 10/11
At this point trading Curry before the deadline doesnt seem like a reality. He has too few games to wipe the stink off his reputation. Jeffries isnt a concern because his contract is very reasonable. Even if he never touches the ball on offense.

I just think there are better deals out there for Lee than Salmons and salary cap relief.. You are 100% right in your thinking though but I think the opportunity to get 2 young players or One and a good draft pick is out there.

]]> By: greatman42001 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17017 greatman42001 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:08:53 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17017 Biggie, I don't understand then what you could possibly want in return for Lee. How doesen't a pure shooting guard who is young cheap and athletic not fit your criteria for trading Lee. We don't have a pure shooting guard on the team, Q rich isn't and Nate isn't. Salmons can score and play defense. I know Lee is a good player but the bottom line is if they don't pay him he is walking. Salmons has 3 years left on a deal that only pays him 5 mil a year, that is one of the biggest bargains in the NBA right now. Plus the Kings have too many guys at the position, Kevin Martin and Donte Green and Jason Thomson can both play the wing, and they are looking for a player to complement Hawes which Lee is. I see this making perfect sense for both sides. At some point the Knicks are going to have to make a play on Lee either resigning him or trading him but to just have him walk at the end of the year is pointless. Salmons in my opinion is a solution that still lets us sign two big free agents and would be a nice fit with the team in 2010 Biggie,
I don’t understand then what you could possibly want in return for Lee.
How doesen’t a pure shooting guard who is young cheap and athletic not fit your criteria for trading Lee. We don’t have a pure shooting guard on the team, Q rich isn’t and Nate isn’t. Salmons can score and play defense. I know Lee is a good player but the bottom line is if they don’t pay him he is walking. Salmons has 3 years left on a deal that only pays him 5 mil a year, that is one of the biggest bargains in the NBA right now. Plus the Kings have too many guys at the position, Kevin Martin and Donte Green and Jason Thomson can both play the wing, and they are looking for a player to complement Hawes which Lee is. I see this making perfect sense for both sides. At some point the Knicks are going to have to make a play on Lee either resigning him or trading him but to just have him walk at the end of the year is pointless. Salmons in my opinion is a solution that still lets us sign two big free agents and would be a nice fit with the team in 2010

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17016 BiggieSmalls Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:43:59 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17016 42001 -- I would Bet D'Antoni could beat them both in a race. Salmons is a good fit tho.. props for that. -- But not for Lee. 42001 — I would Bet D’Antoni could beat them both in a race.

Salmons is a good fit tho.. props for that. — But not for Lee.

]]> By: greatman42001 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17015 greatman42001 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:38:04 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17015 I never said that he was so athletic, I said he was a good passer who was smart, plus I would almost bet my house on that he can beat Eddy Curry in a race. I never said that he was so athletic, I said he was a good passer who was smart, plus I would almost bet my house on that he can beat Eddy Curry in a race.

]]> By: Chris Alvino http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17012 Chris Alvino Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:30:51 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17012 Interesting idea. I have been stating that Lee should be dealt for young players on rookie deals, but Salmons is a very good player that does not make a ton. Not a bad idea. And we ditch all that extra salary. Let's wait and see with Curry. Who knows, he might have value on his own, even without Lee. He is still young and still talented..... and still very large. Interesting idea. I have been stating that Lee should be dealt for young players on rookie deals, but Salmons is a very good player that does not make a ton. Not a bad idea. And we ditch all that extra salary. Let’s wait and see with Curry. Who knows, he might have value on his own, even without Lee. He is still young and still talented….. and still very large.

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/01/07/atkins-for-petro/#comment-17011 BiggieSmalls Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:29:55 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=3712#comment-17011 Isnt Brad Miler widely described as one of the most un athletic players in the league? Isnt Brad Miler widely described as one of the most un athletic players in the league?

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