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Steph Never Connected

by Tommy Dee on February 24th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

I remember when Isiah made the trade. I was in practice with my team (coaching  a JV team in the CHSAA while I was in graduate school) and I remember telling them all the stories associated with the Coney Island Kid that were still lodged in my brain.

I remembered him in high school as an absolute can’t miss. The kid whose power and speed should have redefined the point guard position in the way that Lawrence Taylor redefined the LB position.

I really remember the blank look on the faces of my kids in that practice  who felt that I was being a bit hypocritical in my take on Marbury. Up until that point in his career Steph was the very definition of a “me” player that lost everywhere he went. He had a ego clash over money in Minnesota, which dissolved possibly the next Stockton to Malone combo. In a way I was very much hypocritical because I had taught nothing but the importance of team ball over those past 6 weeks to those kids. I wish Steph had someone teach him those lessons early on in his life instead of letting him do whatever he wanted. Who knows, maybe things would have been different. But hey, he’s got money, right?

What the hell was I so happy about? Then I remembered thinking, “I’m happy Steph’s going to turn this thing around,” before realizing Thomas brought back Penny Hardaway’s deal in the trade which is when I said, “Oh geez. Can he do it by himself?”

Turns out no, he never could yet I always found myself, up until last year, rooting really hard for the guy in the same why I rooted for Mark Jackson or Rod Strickland. The NY born guard should win here, he really should.

I remember Steph’s first college game on ESPN and his alley oop slam against Manhattan College in Atlanta.

I remember his battle against Allen Iverson‘s Georgetown team, the alley oops to KG in Minnesota, his banker against Duncan’s Spurs in the playoffs and the fact that he wore #33 in New Jersey.

Sadly, the only positive memory as a Knick is the layup against Utah. Fitting, kind of, that the moment was truly as empty as his entire career here.

I’ll remember him not getting it, as well as his ability to get under people’s skin.  I’ll remember his maddening ability to play defense only when he wanted to. I’ll remember his smile and thinking, “this guy HAS to smile or he’d surely cry,” and  I’ll remember his bruit honesty about the back of the SUV. But most of all, I’ll remember him never connecting to this fan base.

In all honesty I hope that he goes to Boston and wins, because if he doesn’t, if the Celts somehow fall victim to Lebron or Kobe,the fans will all point at Steph as the reason they lost. He’s a born loser. He would be the common denominator.

I hope not because I’d hate for the Celtics fans to see that getting mad at Steph just makes you even more mad inside. And that the anger that I, myself,  felt for a hometown guy is so infuriating because you know he doesn’t care. He had no heart for all the fans who held him accountable.  He never played hard for those Knick fans, and he’ll never play hard for the fans of Boston. He wasn’t Starks, Oakley or Ewing, or Walt, Bradley or Reed.

He wasn’t Bernard King or Mark Jackson or Houston, LJ, Spree or Camby and if you were a fan of them and had their posters on your wall, traded their cards or wore their jerseys then you know deep down inside you never connected with Steph.

And some fans have the nerve to wonder why D’Antoni or Walsh never wanted him around? Those are the very people who never held Steph accountable for being Steph.

Sure, he may go and win in Boston, but you just get the feeling it’ll never happen.

It just won’t…

  • NJirish7

    Tommy did you catch Johnny Flynn’s performance tonight? I think he would be great on the Knicks.

  • BiggieSmalls

    I dont really understand why you hope he wins in Boston when we have our own team to root for here in NY/

    He is their problem now. Another stop in the long line of teams likely to be stricken by the Cancer we’ve knows as Starbury

    Can we end the Steph chapter with this post and move on to issues that affect the Knicks.

  • theking30

    Nice piece.

    A few years ago I got a huge, blown up ESPN magazine cover featuring Steph and Isiah on the cover under the headline “Can Isiah and Steph Save the Knicks” from an associate at ESPN.

    A long time ago, I realized the potential for timeless irony this poster had…long before the day that finally came today, when both Isiah and Steph were gone.

    Has such a marriage ever worked out worse? It’s amazing that this franchise was derailed by a guy wtih no prior ties to the franchise and a homegrown, could-have-been superstar.

    I will always keep the poster – you can only laugh at it. Hopefully brighter times are ahead.

  • http://theKnicksBlog.com Tommy Dee

    Big- I don’t want him to win. if they lose it’ll be his fault in boston’s fans eyes, which is okay.

    But when the fans see that he has no soul and doesn’t care, he’s going to further embarrass NYers.

    And that’s what I can’t take anymore….

  • theking30

    I don’t think Stephon Marbury is any reflection on NYers at all.

  • http://theKnicksBlog.com Tommy Dee

    maybe not in NY.

  • http://theKnicksBlog.com Tommy Dee

    The guy’s awesome…would have liked to see him hit the corner trey to tie against Nova this past weekend tho.

  • krayziehustler

    Tommy i cant believe you compared steph to sprewell, the guy who choked his coach and the complained when a multi million deal was not enough to feed his kids.

    Stephon is probaly one of the most giving players in the league. You do not know Stephon Marbury

    http://sportsonmymind.com/2008/12/03/you-dont-know-stephon-marbury/

    You also fail to make a VALID point on WHY he was never given a chance to play this year. Say what you want about Stephon but he at least deserved to haev his slate washed clean, not only is his game tailor made for D’antoni system, but Walsh made it clear when he came in and again when he fired IT that it is the dawn of a new era so why not let Steph take part in it and yet let Curry and other overpaid bums play. Especially when Steph came in the best shape of his life

  • http://theKnicksBlog.com Tommy Dee

    I rooted for steph every year to become vindicated like I rooted for Spree to. I’m not one to judge anyone, I care about one thing really when it comes to the knicks: representing the uniform with dignity.

    I’m not comparing Spree to Steph, what I said was Spree has a connection with more fans than steph does. You’re clearly a steph fan and I respect.

    I’m sure steph is a nice guy and a giver, but if you’re saying fans should like players based on how they are off the court I’m not real sure ANYONE would like ANY player. Any other outlook is naive.

    And I’ve given this VALID point a million times on this blog. Steph didn’t play because it is my understanding that the players, his own teammates, voted him out.

    They wanted NOTHING to do with the distractions that have plagued this team for 5 years.

  • rico

    Nobody is all good or all bad,
    Marbury might have a huge heart and generosity
    off the court, but at MSG he was a misery.

    6 coaches down,
    selfishness, egoism,
    quitting, whining, pettiness,
    no D, a lost hostile man.

    he could not handle NY
    not even a little.

    as much as I admire his talent,
    I loathe what he did to his teams and the fans.

    Marbury could have owned NY
    instead he was the grand rat of MSG.

    later jerky

  • Arputter

    Really nice post…Thank you for saying it…Thanks for nothing, Steph, I wish you cared as much as we do.

  • krayziehustler

    its not that im a steph fan, im a knick fan first and i know that we would be better off with him playing this year than just having him and not playing him.

    By the way im not buying that he was voted out, if thats the case when did the vote take place? he obviously played in preseason, why ask the question afterwards, why wasnt he informed?

    And with all due respect you expect me to believe that Dolan and even Walsh would let 21 million rot just because of some stupid vote. What is the old adage we always hear, “its business. not personal” That makes no business sense.

    And as a die hard knick fan you have to respect the fact that even when every player on the knicks (minus lee) came in to camp out of shape, Marbury came in better shape than when he was a rookie.

  • gmoney45

    Krayzie you are looking at Marbury from one avenue. That he is the most talented player who was on the knick roster this past season. From that standpoint you are correct and I dont think that many people would argue with that. But everyone of us who has every played basketball competitively knows that sometimes the most talented guys simply dont fit. Marbury is great, in the video game sense, where things like teamwork, cohesion, and unity are words that dont matter. But take real players, with real feelings, or real coaches with game plans to execute, or front offices with budgets to balance and seats to fill and Marbury becomes what he is, and through no fault of his physical talents. Stephon Marbury will always be a great player, and off the court he will continue to do some good things(his sneakers) but none of that outweighs that fact that he is not a team player, he does not work well with others, and the knicks, even this season, even when they had 7 or 8 able bodied guys, were better off without him. The man is poison. He got the second chances he deserved, in New Jersey, in Phoenix, in New york with Isiah, and now he gets another one in Boston. But he was never going to fit here with what this organization was looking to do. To use stronger words, he was never going to fit here period. Not in New York, where we cherish heroes who are leaders, like Jeter and Ewing and Messier, would a self absorbed malcontent ever become someone this city could root for.
    To you Mr. Marbury, you had so much talent that you gave me hope for a time. I believed that just maybe you could turn it around here in your home city and be the force to lead a franchise and a city back to the top of basketball. But sir, you wasted your talent because you lacked the one thing needed to make it all work. You are not a leader. No one wants to follow you. If your teammates shot you in the fox hole, it was only because you had already killed so many of them. You wasted your skills because you are an arrogant self absorbed jerk who just does not see the big picture. To quote A Bronx Tale, “there is nothing worse in this world than wasted talent.” You sir, are exactly that. Best of luck in Boston, I would not screw around in Mr. Garnetts foxhole this time if I were you.

  • http://theKnicksBlog.com Tommy Dee

    Why do i have to respect him coming into camp in great shape? He makes 21 million dollars!

    Should I respect dead beat dads for paying child support too?

    NBA players SHOULD be in the best shape of their lives.

    I could care less about that.

  • djgoodbaby

    If Steph ends up in Boston I will root for them to succeed (except in the unlikely instance they face the Knicks in the first round). I’ve been a Marbury fan for about 15 years…so I was really, really hoping that his Knick tenure would work out.

    But his time here in New York just confirmed that as long as he’s the go-to guy, his teams can’t win. He’s not a leader. He’s a bit of a headcase. He has no interest in developing chemistry with teammates. Etc. Etc.

    Nonetheless, people act as if Marbury was THE problem with the Knicks for all these seasons. He was just one problem on a team that probably had million other serious problems too. The Knicks played some of their best basketball the past few years (relatively speaking) when he was allowed to go out and play his game.