Comments on: Say Goodbye To Nate http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/ The One-Stop Shop for Hopeful Knick Fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: josh108 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31501 josh108 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:17:13 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31501 OK first of all I read knicks blog every day and never really comment often, but really I could not resist to give my opinion about your poor opinion on nate robinson. How could you ever compare nate robinson's dumb and non thoughtout acts towards referee's and D'Antoni with the heart and passion of john starks, charles oakley, and anthony mason? I really am not good at debating topics or issues but the only difference is that those three guys went to the finals, nate (and david lee) has done nothing but been on losing teams from 05 and on. you obviously can't blame all the losing seasons on nate but really i watch every single game ( i am human i miss a few) and from what i see everyone plays much better when nate is not in the game. When he is in the game it becomes the nate robinson show and noone else gets touches. He simply makes his surrounding players worse. Sure he looks great at times (then again who doesnt look decent in a d'antoni system) but when it comes down to it he is a straight gunner who needs to be off the team in order to bring a championship back to the mecca!!! Also he can lose a game for you as quik as he wins them for you. For example yes he did lift us to beat the pacers at msg when he exploded off the bench for 40 plus but he also has games such as the one against the bobcats at msg (yes he did have 20 plus off the bench that night but looked off open shots for galo and others all night, which a pg should not be doing) when we were right in the middle of the playoff hunt (bobcats unloaded on us and shot around 55 percent i believe i may be wrong). Not only is he one of the biggest ballhogs in the nba but he really is a huge defensive liability! dont get me wrong i love players that fight (in a basketball term and literally) but nate is just not worth it to me. We need a pass first point guard on a team with players such as will and galo who we are looking to build around!!! OK first of all I read knicks blog every day and never really comment often, but really I could not resist to give my opinion about your poor opinion on nate robinson.

How could you ever compare nate robinson’s dumb and non thoughtout acts towards referee’s and D’Antoni with the heart and passion of john starks, charles oakley, and anthony mason? I really am not good at debating topics or issues but the only difference is that those three guys went to the finals, nate (and david lee) has done nothing but been on losing teams from 05 and on.

you obviously can’t blame all the losing seasons on nate but really i watch every single game ( i am human i miss a few) and from what i see everyone plays much better when nate is not in the game. When he is in the game it becomes the nate robinson show and noone else gets touches. He simply makes his surrounding players worse. Sure he looks great at times (then again who doesnt look decent in a d’antoni system) but when it comes down to it he is a straight gunner who needs to be off the team in order to bring a championship back to the mecca!!!

Also he can lose a game for you as quik as he wins them for you. For example yes he did lift us to beat the pacers at msg when he exploded off the bench for 40 plus but he also has games such as the one against the bobcats at msg (yes he did have 20 plus off the bench that night but looked off open shots for galo and others all night, which a pg should not be doing) when we were right in the middle of the playoff hunt (bobcats unloaded on us and shot around 55 percent i believe i may be wrong). Not only is he one of the biggest ballhogs in the nba but he really is a huge defensive liability!

dont get me wrong i love players that fight (in a basketball term and literally) but nate is just not worth it to me. We need a pass first point guard on a team with players such as will and galo who we are looking to build around!!!

]]> By: KBT1615 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31481 KBT1615 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:38:22 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31481 I will love that deal by the way Nate and JJ for Joel, a 1st round pick and Bayless. I think Mike can bring the full potential out of Bayless. Im confident Donnie will at least try to get this done. Hey he already tried once to dump JJ on someone with Nate. Imagine what we can have Nash, Duhon, Bayless Hughes, Warren Ill Will, Gallo Lee, James Johnson- Projected Portland Pick VERY Talented., Al Pryzbilla I will love that deal by the way Nate and JJ for Joel, a 1st round pick and Bayless.
I think Mike can bring the full potential out of Bayless. Im confident Donnie will at least try to get this done. Hey he already tried once to dump JJ on someone with Nate.
Imagine what we can have

Nash, Duhon, Bayless
Hughes, Warren
Ill Will, Gallo
Lee, James Johnson- Projected Portland Pick VERY Talented., Al
Pryzbilla

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31478 BiggieSmalls Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:32:08 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31478 I agree with both.. I'd trade Nate of the Money was over the mid level At the mod level I like him coming off the bench. He's like a wild stallion that needs to be tamed. Crysis is right that other past Knicks brought the pain in their games like Nate. Winners? Didnt win a title.. but I like them all anyway. I think I'd rather have Nate for 5.5 and 22 minutes a game than Lee for 9 mil and 35 minutes a game... Should be an interesting off season. Portland definitely has some assets that I'd swipe for Nate.. in a larger deal I agree with both..

I’d trade Nate of the Money was over the mid level

At the mod level I like him coming off the bench. He’s like a wild stallion that needs to be tamed. Crysis is right that other past Knicks brought the pain in their games like Nate. Winners? Didnt win a title.. but I like them all anyway.

I think I’d rather have Nate for 5.5 and 22 minutes a game than Lee for 9 mil and 35 minutes a game…

Should be an interesting off season.

Portland definitely has some assets that I’d swipe for Nate.. in a larger deal

]]> By: cragganmor http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31477 cragganmor Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:15:06 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31477 Garbo is a Shane Battier-type of player; no flashy stats, but a very smart player that does what's needed to get a win. If his ankle is healthy, then I'd try and sign him. I really like the idea of getting Goran Suton and Danny Green in the second round. Both are smart, have length, can defend, pass, rebound and shoot. Garbo is a Shane Battier-type of player; no flashy stats, but a very smart player that does what’s needed to get a win. If his ankle is healthy, then I’d try and sign him.

I really like the idea of getting Goran Suton and Danny Green in the second round. Both are smart, have length, can defend, pass, rebound and shoot.

]]> By: Chris Alvino http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31475 Chris Alvino Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:29:30 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31475 crysis- I can understand where you are coming from. Oakley would put anyone on their ass if he felt like it. Some of the old Knick teams were dirty. Isiah Thomas' old Detroit teams were dirty. Basketball is a physical sport. The Knicks don't play physical. I love Nate's enthusiasm and his his heart. He is willing to take on the world if he has to. That said, if the right package came along for him, I would not be adverse to dealing him. The difference between Starks/ Mason/ Oakley and Nate is that those guys were winners. They did whatever they had to do in order to win games. Nate is talented, but sometimes he plays like a 1 man show. On the nights he is on, he can single handedly win games for this team. On plenty of other nights, he just adds to the problem. If the Knicks could get a 1st round pick, Joel Pryzbilla, and Jerryd Bayless for Nate and JJ this summer, you can conceivably see players like Craig Brackins, Joel, Bayless, and our first round pick being on our roster next year. That is very enticing. Joel and Lee can make a nice frontcourt. crysis- I can understand where you are coming from. Oakley would put anyone on their ass if he felt like it. Some of the old Knick teams were dirty. Isiah Thomas’ old Detroit teams were dirty. Basketball is a physical sport. The Knicks don’t play physical. I love Nate’s enthusiasm and his his heart. He is willing to take on the world if he has to.

That said, if the right package came along for him, I would not be adverse to dealing him. The difference between Starks/ Mason/ Oakley and Nate is that those guys were winners. They did whatever they had to do in order to win games. Nate is talented, but sometimes he plays like a 1 man show. On the nights he is on, he can single handedly win games for this team. On plenty of other nights, he just adds to the problem.

If the Knicks could get a 1st round pick, Joel Pryzbilla, and Jerryd Bayless for Nate and JJ this summer, you can conceivably see players like Craig Brackins, Joel, Bayless, and our first round pick being on our roster next year.

That is very enticing. Joel and Lee can make a nice frontcourt.

]]> By: KBT1615 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31460 KBT1615 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:57:08 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31460 You are probably the dumbest person on TKB. You are probably the dumbest person on TKB.

]]> By: KBT1615 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31459 KBT1615 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:46:25 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31459 Nates a cocky ballhog, I admit he can be entertaining and at times he has helped us win but the Bad outweighs the good and plus he wants a big contract this summer that hes not worth. John Starks, and Oakley didnt argue with everyone over a questionable call, they didnt go argue with their coach over nothing and they did what they had to to win, their good outweighs their bad. Also Dont you EVER try to put John Starks down just to try to bring Nate up again. Nates a cocky ballhog, I admit he can be entertaining and at times he has helped us win but the Bad outweighs the good and plus he wants a big contract this summer that hes not worth.
John Starks, and Oakley didnt argue with everyone over a questionable call, they didnt go argue with their coach over nothing and they did what they had to to win, their good outweighs their bad.
Also Dont you EVER try to put John Starks down just to try to bring Nate up again.

]]> By: crysis http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31458 crysis Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:38:20 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31458 Nate is a good player. Somehow some of these guys who write about him or talk about him are making him out to be a villian. I think its totally unfair to rip the guy for being an emotional player. What is it? Do people actually want EVERY SINGLE BASKETBALL PLAYER to not be individuals? Do you want ROBOTS? What has Nate done wrong? Stand up for himself? Did he not chase Carmelo Anthony across the floor? I was proud that the Knicks got tough that night a few years ago. How tough are they now? Didn't Doctor J and Larry Bird get into a fight during their career? A whole fistfight that each one would have been suspended for 10 games in today's NBA. The NBA is soft today. So what Nate acts tough? But Oak wasn't tough, and Anthony Mason wasn't tough, and John Starks wasn't tough. Oak didn't smack another player during shootaround because the guy owed him money? Some guy named Tyrone Hill I believe, but I could be wrong. REREAD what i wrote. OAKLEY SMACKED TYRONE HILL BEFORE THE GAME BECAUSE THE GUY OWED HIM MONEY!!! If Nate did that, can you imagine what would be written about him. Didn't Anthony Mason get in fights, sometimes in clubs. Didn't John Starks head butt Reggie Miller? This is nonsense, this not wanting to see Nate on the Knicks anymore. Then who do we get to watch? Duhon? Gallo? Sene? Some local knuckleheads want to pick apart a guy who comes off the bench and averaged 17 points a game, plus 4 assists and 3.9 rebounds. What is up with some of you fans. You look like uniformed and clueless observers when it comes to basketball. I disagree with the comments about Nate. And I bet some of you actually would root for Joba Chamberlain even though the guy drives drunk and disses New Yorkers. The media sure gave him a pass... But they call Nate a novelty act. Nate is a baller... period. Get it straight. And if he isn't around to watch, the KNicks will be an even more BORING team than they were this season. Nate is a good player. Somehow some of these guys who write about him or talk about him are making him out to be a villian. I think its totally unfair to rip the guy for being an emotional player.

What is it? Do people actually want EVERY SINGLE BASKETBALL PLAYER to not be individuals? Do you want ROBOTS?

What has Nate done wrong? Stand up for himself? Did he not chase Carmelo Anthony across the floor? I was proud that the Knicks got tough that night a few years ago. How tough are they now?

Didn’t Doctor J and Larry Bird get into a fight during their career? A whole fistfight that each one would have been suspended for 10 games in today’s NBA. The NBA is soft today.

So what Nate acts tough?

But Oak wasn’t tough, and Anthony Mason wasn’t tough, and John Starks wasn’t tough.

Oak didn’t smack another player during shootaround because the guy owed him money? Some guy named Tyrone Hill I believe, but I could be wrong.

REREAD what i wrote.

OAKLEY SMACKED TYRONE HILL BEFORE THE GAME BECAUSE THE GUY OWED HIM MONEY!!!

If Nate did that, can you imagine what would be written about him.

Didn’t Anthony Mason get in fights, sometimes in clubs.

Didn’t John Starks head butt Reggie Miller?

This is nonsense, this not wanting to see Nate on the Knicks anymore. Then who do we get to watch?

Duhon? Gallo? Sene?

Some local knuckleheads want to pick apart a guy who comes off the bench and averaged 17 points a game, plus 4 assists and 3.9 rebounds.

What is up with some of you fans. You look like uniformed and clueless observers when it comes to basketball. I disagree with the comments about Nate.

And I bet some of you actually would root for Joba Chamberlain even though the guy drives drunk and disses New Yorkers. The media sure gave him a pass…

But they call Nate a novelty act.

Nate is a baller… period. Get it straight. And if he isn’t around to watch, the KNicks will be an even more BORING team than they were this season.

]]> By: Mucha http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31457 Mucha Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:38:10 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31457 You're not the only one. You’re not the only one.

]]> By: KBT1615 http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/04/10/say-goodbye-to-nate/#comment-31456 KBT1615 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:31:19 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=6060#comment-31456 I think Roy would be begging his management to get that done.. I think Roy would be begging his management to get that done..

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