In the End, Rubio Will be a Knick

If the Sacremento Kings pass on Rubio, he’ll be the 8th player to shake hands with David Stern.

We sharing a brain TD

either in July or on Draft night Rubio will be on Broadway.

Too many things falling in place.

La Pistola is in Sac Town today.. We’ll see how he feels about strip malls and valley girls soon enough.

Weren’t there rumors of the T’Wolves trading up for Rubio? If those were true, then he’s definitely not getting past 6. Also, while i hope your right, what do the Knicks have to offer that other teams don’t? I would LOVE to have Rubio in New York, but it’s hard for me to share your optimism. I just can’t see it happening.

by “things to offer” i mean players to trade up, not market size and things like that

the sanchez theory

@ slambam – Maybe the Knicks won’t have to trade up.

The Clippers will take Griffin, Memphis will not take a huge risk and lose leverage in draft night/summer trade scenarios, Rubio doesn’t want to play in OKC, Washington needs an NBA ready player who’s able to get buckets, Rubio will not play in Minneapolis and Golden State is a mess.

The key is Sacramento, and maybe they prefer Flynn, Holiday or Jennings.

We’ll see.

so, is it possible to see donnie take on a contract that might limit his spending power in the 2010 free agent bonanza to get rubio?

i wonder whether he’s worth limiting flexibility…

maybe the thinking goes donnie gets rubio (and considers him star #1), then takes back a contract that limits him to one free agent star ( of wade, lebron, amare, bosh).

just thinking this through…

my cousin-in-law lived in sac town…i just can’t see anyone wanting to actually live there. (he didn’t, but he did kick start his career there.)

I don’t like it…I think we need to STAY PUT at #8…One of thse guys is going to fall…I would only go after the #2 pick IF we KEEP the #8 in the process like Minnesota is looking to do…they want that #2 pick, but they want to keep their #6 pick

CURRY
RUBIO
THABEET
HILL
Oh and how about HARDEN

Any of these guys I would be fine taking at #8

We should use the Mobley and Hughes contract to pick up SHAQ or MCGRADY…WE NEED STAR POWER

buy a late 1st rounder to get Lawson

or buy a 2nd rounder to get Danny Green

I think these moves are the best we can do…at least ON draft night

well, the one thing i can think of is the fact that walsh can take a bad contract back and still have room to sign a star free agent in 2010. not many teams would be able to do that. maybe walsh created all that room so he could take back a bad contract in order to trade up for a difference maker in this year’s draft.

I hope your right, but i just can;t see him dropping that far

actually, after looking at the contract for memphis and okc, i don’t see it because neither team has a horrendous contract on the books.

if the knicks are going to trade up, i don’t know what they offer to the teams.

Donnie Walsh is crazy if he takes back a long-term contract to move up in the draft.

he’s not dropping, the knicks will trade up. if he drops past four he’ll go at 7 to GS and break our hearts. but I’ve said it before as well, I really think that Walsh is going to move up to snag his Mark Sanchez.

if you look at the contracts that memphis and okc have, there are non that would fit the category of long-term, bad contract. so, i don’t see a trade happening in that way.

I mean contracts that extend beyond 2010. Jaric fits that description for example.

Golden State is a mess, why would Rubio want to play there? The Warriors have a great system and a nice city but they still have Don Nelson – the way he treats his rookies is definitely not attractive.

Wow I hope you are right Tommy but I just don’t see him
a)slipping down to 8 or
b)Walsh taking on a bad contract for an unproven player.

If we can ship Lee and the 8 for the 2nd pick I’d do it in a heartbeat though, but not sure if we can even trade Lee right now

so, you take the $14.7m over the next two years and the backup guard that gets paid that amount (jaric) and swap picks (and probably give up lee)…and, then take rubio.

is taking on the money, jaric, giving up #8 and lee worth it?

the thing is, it doesn’t really impact donnie’s spending might for the free agent summer of a lifetime…and, it does lighten the budget for the grizz.

Adding Jaric would put Donnie Walsh’s plan in a trash bag. We need to have enough space to sign two max free agents, that’d would close the window.

Agree Rubio is NOT going to golden State.

They have Mona Ellis making waves that he wants to be the PG and there are reports they have made a promise to Jordan Hill

he’s NOT going to Sacto. They’ll wind up taking Evans or Holiday or trading out of the pick.. Both players who have worked out extensively for them. Rubio is just going there on a meet and greet

He is NOT going to Washington who will trade out of the pick to someone who will take Curry

T Wolves will take either Holiday or Evans (whoever Sacto doesnt take)

Memphis = Thabeet
OKC = Harden

Ricky is a knick at 8

If the T’Wolves like Rubio enough to possibly trade Love to go and get him at 2, if he drops to 6 then they would definitely pick him. Minneapolis is not a terrible city (very cold, but so is NY in the winter). Not the Biggest market, but you gotta believe Rubio would be the pick at 6. We gotta trade up somehow, whether to get Rubio or Curry. We CANNOT get Hill, he is an average player AT BEST.

we wont have enough space to sign two max free agents unless we get rid of Curry.

i guess my point above was that if you counted rubio as one of those megastars (not saying he is or will be, just trying to understand what logic would be employed to justify this type of move), then you have one star already. then, you add one more via free agency. two stars when there were none. and, one of the stars is one the team a year earlier to entice the second one to come.

btw, i’m not sure jaric’s $7.6m 2010/11 salary kills the cap and donnie’s chance of signing two max salary players. it depends on who else is on this team. the team is at $18m for that year right now. they would be dealing away lee, which mean they won’t have to pay him for that year.

again, don’t take me for advocating this type of move. i’m just trying to think it through to see if it would be something worth doing.

if rubio was a lebron/can’t-miss type…the answer would be yes (but, then again, who would trade away the pick if he was).

Minnesota is a mess.

That Love trade was only a rumor and is not possible cause you cant trade a player back to the team you received him from for one year.

if the salary cap is $60m for that year, and the knicks have $18m already committed, that leaves them $42m to spend with. two max deals could be around $30-35m depending on who the players are (years of service, etc.). adding jaric’s money puts them right up on the cap limit, so, yes, something would have to give to afford two max contract guys and pay rubio and fill out the rostser.

unless, you count rubio (the sanches theory) worth giving up one of the two max guys the knicks could get that fa season.

i think you’re right, by the way.

right now, the knicks have $18.1m committed with another $5.4m in team options for chandler and danilo. so, rounding up, that’s $24m spent on four players. two max contracts would be somewhere around $30-35m in year one, so bring it to $54-59m. so, we’re at the cap on just six players, assuming the cap is $60m in 2010/11.

The Knicks landing Ricky Rubio would be a tremendous move. I would say the Knicks best bet would be to trade up because I highly doubt he falls to the 8th spot. No way teams are going to let a player with his skill set to drop that low. If he drops it would be as low as 4 or 5.
That being said, I think Walsh’s best move would be to trade up with the Memphis Grizzlies. They are probably the best trading partner for NY to get Rubio.

What do you think of this trade:

NY trades the #8th pick and Cuttino Mobley’s contract to Memhis for the #2 pick and Darko Milic.

This gives Memphis instant cap relief with Mobley’s contract (80% paid by insurance) and we’re taking back Darko’s contract which is up after the 2010 season.

TOMMY,your theory,or lack therof doesnt hold water or even air.geez when you said RUBIO was going to the knicks ,i thought you had this good scientific reasoning,and you come up with “CUZ I THINK SO ,DUH!” …christ ,is you dont have anything to write…….dont write!

If we did aquire or get rubio, look at this

rubio/duhon
chandler/danny green
gallo/jack mclinton
harrington
lee/mullens

thats if we buy a late round pick and get mullens
with the second round pick select danny green and jack mclinton bc we get 2 from portland i believe??

but if we dont get rubio i wont be crushed bc i really watn curry also, so im so pumped for the draft

my trade with Memphis

Knicks get:
Marko Jaric
Darko Milicic
Adriana Lima

Memphis get:
Eddy Curry
Mobley
Cash

the Knicks save 3 million for the summer of 2010, the grizz save some money with mobley. The cash covers the salary difference between Curry (11,276,000) and Jaric (7,625,000).

problem with that is grizz will not take eddy curry, no matter what, hes a hasben and needs to lose wait bc he is a slow pace player so it might work but i dont see them taking eddy curry of our hands

Getting rid of Eddy Curry will be the toughest task for Donnie Walsh. At least he had something to work with when he traded Zach Randolph a 20 and 10 machine and Jamaal Crawford a 20ppg scorer. Eddy Curry provides no rebounding, no blocked shots, no heart.
The Knicks tried trading Curry to Memphis last year I believe and they turned it down.
I’m starting to believe no one (not even the Clippers) would take on Eddy Curry. He’s just a waste of space. If thats the case, I hope the Knicks just buy him out.

http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1952930.html

stupid question.

can’t the knicks offer Curry a new deal. 1 year deal worth 22 million or so.

Wait, are you asking if the Knicks can give Eddy Curry a new deal??? Only deal the Knicks would want to give Eddy Curry is a membership deal at Bally’s gym to get in shape.

He looked fine in Sacremento, i really see no way of them passing on him. I really hope i’m wrong though.

They put him up in Embassy suites?..

Too Funny..

Did they take him to dinner at Sizzler?

No.. CBA does not allow that.

Is this definitive ??? Cause no disrespect I need more speculation like I need a hole in my head.

Biggie you make it seem like every city other than NY is the worst place to play basketball ever and NY is the only spot where you can make money.

Another thing didn’t the Knicks want to trade Lee to Memphis last year and he said he refused why is it any different now?

I gotta question his heart and his game with all of these PG’s in the draft his position how does he not work out with anyone?? Is he scared I don’t get it, his stock is falling and he still won’t workout? You can workout and be the best PG and still say if you pick me and I don’t want to play I’m gonna stay in Spain.

One thing that I did think about and this is for the Rubio won’t play in Sac because its not L.A people., when all the 2010 talk started it was Lebron to the Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets not N.J. if Lebron James the biggest star in the NBA would play in Brooklyn which is still in NY why wouldn’t Rubio play in Sac still in California.?

HA well i guess your right in that department, and he also said the best part of the Kings was that they were all young. hopefully he balks

I’m sure this has been talked about, but the big four all have player options for 2011/12. What makes us think they will become FAs?

Jordan Hill said they made no promise. Reports say Minn want to trade up for Rubio he won’t fall past 6.

Slightly off topic but DX has a pretty good “by the numbers” article on this PG class. Stats only tell half the story, but still, 50% is a lot of the story.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Just-By-the-Numbers-This-Years-Point-Guard-Crop-3262/

Very interesting stuff if you ask me.

Downtown Brooklyn is only 10 minutes from Manhattan, while Sacramento to LA is about 5 hours give or take.

A better comparison would be downtown Albany to Manhattan and that’s only about 4 hours!!

Maybe he wants his stock to fall to land on the east coast?

Honestly, if I’m Donnie and Eddy has the Mcnuggets to shows up out of shape again, I would eat the contract and just banish him from the team like the Pacers did with Tinsley.

The only way to improve the culture around the team is to get rid of losers.

Sact Town to LA is more like NYC to South Carolina in terms of distance.

International players from Barcelona dont want to go to some strip mall capital in the middle of inner california.

They dont want to go to small town southern cities like Memphis or midwestern dust bowls like OKC or deep freeze places like Minny.

NYC is a relatively SHORT flight to Barcelona. There are plenty of flights for friends and family to go back and forth. the West Coast of the USA is 17 Hours plus air time and there are very few direct flights.

Can he fly private? sure I guess .. but not direct and not when he is paying DKV a 6 mil buyout and his salary is around 3 mil.

NYC provides him an international flavor that has marketing opportunities to make up his buy out and is a convenient flight to Spain.

NYC works best.. Better than the other 7 teams ahead of us in the draft.

I think Rubio prefers NYC but DC would probably be his second choice, even if he has to play behind Gil.

I wish I could be as optomistic as you Tommy but I don’t see it. I dreamed about Ricky Rubio all season and was begging the team to tank. At 8, I don’t see it. He’s not falling to 8. It’s impossible. And I don’t think we have the assets to get him in a trade.

As for my feeling – I’m always expecting to be disappointed so I’m going with Jrue Holiday. The most overrated guard in the lottery.

if Donnie eats the contract it still stays on the cap until it expires.

Bet case is to build him up to where someone wants him.

Quick poll:

1. Who do we have a better shot at? Curry or Rubio?

2. Who would you rather have? Curry or Rubio?

3. If these are your 2 top choices, who is #3? If not, who’s your top 2?

In my opinion

1. Curry (neither is that likely anymore)

2. Tough, but Rubio

3. Not including Blake Griffin, Jonny Flynn probably. Not the best prospect other than Rubio or Curry, but i would be really happy to have him as a Knick. Or Jennings, just not Evans or Hill, and i’m not a fan of Holiday.

1. Curry
2. Rubio
3. Jrue Holiday

Hey Pedro..

Ricky just tweeted.. can you give a real translation?

Visita al Arco Arena … las instalaciones son brutales!

google says facilities are brutal!

is that good or bad?

My point is that its still NY or its still L.A.

I’m with you and pretty much all accounts except I think Holiday will be a star in the long run, but not the immediate contributor the Knicks are looking for.

And also, I would love to have Evans IF we draft him understanding that he is a 2-guard and secure a PG prospect later in the draft or in FA. I really think he might end up as the biggest star of this draft class 10 years from now when all is said and done.

True Fan Biggie can’t believe you follow him on twitter and can’t even speak spanish.

I still think the only way to get the Curry contract off our back is to connect it to
the 8th pick!!

I think we need to trade down and out of the 8th spot to not only be done with
Curry but to get a 2010 draft pick! We can buy a pick later in the first and still get a very good talent im sure as well as sign Sessions at that point.

Let Lee & Nate shine & our other young talent play and improve under MD and in 2010 use them to move up in the 2010 draft which will be a much better draft then this one and have money for max contracts on 2 FA’s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fML8NINtbQ

LMAO.. i just run it thru babelfish or google translate..

but it doesnt catch slangy stuff.. like is “brutal” some shorthand for good?

What exactly are these THINGS that are falling into place?

NY and Sac. are just as good problem for you is Sac has the 4th pick I don’t see why his family needs to constantly go back and forth lots of international players in any sport stay here until the offseason then they go back home, Rubio would live like a Maloof in Sac and I didnt know Rubio was factoring the stores that he can shop at in his decision of where he goes he can make up his by out in Sac I have no doubt about that, he should get a reality show I’d watch that.

Another thing, I don’t think Rubio has any leverage anymore how can you go back to a team that you have sued when he did that he lost all of his pull the question is has other teams realized that.

great find.. he “saw the river”// LMAO.. Are you kidding??

he looks like he cant wait to get outta that town.

Ricky is from Barcelona. He LOVES the water and living by it.. the Sacto River aint gonna cut it.

The Hudson is though right LOL

In all seriousness though Rubio won’t fall past Sac may not be the perfect situation but its fair I would say above average and if he decides to go back to Spain the NBA has to change something these international players can’t continue to cripple bad teams even more by them using there draft picks on them and then they decide to not come over and play that’s gonna have to change.

If I remember correctly NYC is a Port City on the Atlantic Ocean with a huge sound as well

I know his contract still stays on the cap. I just meant as an example to the team like the Pacers and Tinsley.

he said brutal as in good.

he said the magic words: “i like to run”

Here is an interseting excerpt from a very recent chat from ESPN with David Thorpe

Freddy (Santa Ana, CA)
Would the best move for the Lakers be to draft Calathes at the end of the 1st round and bring him over next year after Fisher retires?

David Thorpe
I only had Nick in our gym for a few weeks, but he’s top 10 in this draft in my book. Best passer, other than Rubio, and a tremendous feel. He was offered a huge deal by a power franchise for a reason, and not just because he has Greek lineage.

I don’t know much about this kid, but I hear that he is quite tall for a pg.
Maybe we could secure a 2nd pick and look at Calathes.

Opinions?

The question is, why would Washington draft him? He’s a risky pick and he’ll struggle – they are tryin to win.

1. Ricky Rubio.

2. Stephen Curry

3. Tyreke Evans and Stephen Curry

I really dig Calathes. Thorpe is absolutely right. Best passer outside Rubio, but he’s a better shooter than Rubio. He’s way underrated. Not elite athleticism or quicks, but neither does Rubio or Curry. He’s #1 on my list if we get a later pick. I personally would take him over Lawson, Teague, Collison and Maynor

“At 8, I don’t see it. He’s not falling to 8. It’s impossible”

Could you explain why?

1. Clippers – Obviously they’ll pick Blake Griffin.

2. Grizzlies – They would lose a lot of leverage in draft night/sign-and-trade scenarios (like any other small-market team) because Ricky Rubio doesn’t want to play there – they have OJ Mayo don’t need him anyways.

3. Thunder – They are a small-market team and they already have Russell Westbrook. They need a better/bigger jumpshooter (James Harden) or a center (Hasheem Thabeet).

4. KINGS – SACRAMENTO IS THE KEY.

5. Wizards – They want to win now, Rubio’s a poor jumpshooter who will struggle physically. James Harden, Hasheem Thabeet and Stephen Curry are better fits.

6. Timberwolves – We’re talking about Minneapolis, Rubio will not play there in my opinion.

7. Warriors – Golden State is a mess. Don Nelson is the worst coach a rookie could play for, ask Latrell Sprewell and Anthony Randolph.

8. KNICKS – HERE WE ARE.

Insurance incase the Hibachi breaks down again. He’s risky but he’s more ready to come in a run an offense than any other PG in the draft. I agree with you, I think they’ll take Harden or Evans but if Rubio is on the board, they’ll take a long hard look at him.

I agree up to the Wolves and Warriors. While what you’re saying is possible, it’s more opinion. I mean, while the Love rumors were completely off, the fact that they had interest was right on target (according to Chad Ford), so it looks like they will draft them. And also, while the Kings are far from a big market team, in the interviews Rubio knows nothing about the players than that. He knows the stars obviously, but how would he know the history of Don Nelson and rookies? Maybe one of his advisors would tell him that and that would put the warriors off Rubio’s list, but it seems like a poor reason to not want to join a team. Just my opinion.

calathes is very legit, the only reason why he isn’t considered a lottery pick is his athleticism. I would love to have him in NY, but no way ahead of Maynor.

Blow it out your @ss bob. ITS AN OPINION PIECE ON A BLOG!!! Would you prefer some sort of complicated algorithm promising Rubio to the Knicks? Find somewhere else to spread your misery.

I wouldn’t mind it. But I don’t think we’ll see it. I’ll be happy with any of the following whether we pick eigth or not

S. Curry
Thabeet
Rubio
Jennings

His agent knows, that’s for sure. The way Don Nelson treats his rookies is a good reason to “put the Warriors off the list” in my opinion, I mean it’s Don Nelson.

Warriors have MOnta… He is in Sacto now and NOT going to Oakland.. So you think he wants to go to Golden State?

Anyone who drafts him will be faced with possibly waiting up to two years for him if he doesnt find it lucrative enough to pay his buyout.

Minnesota .. they dont have a coach right now. and it is freezing there. Come on.. Like it or not. the kid has leverage in where he is drafted. Leverage that No college kid has.

He isnt working out for anyone.. that is making him sink. I think Fagan is doing this on purpose so he drops to 8..

you KNOW the marketing opportunities in NYC blow away any of the other top 7 teams. Its a perfect fit. Either Donnie works a trade while not giving up much or he gets his man at 8

DW is playing this like a AA in the hole poker hand.. Slow play all the way.. He is saying he is OK staying at 8.. yeah right.. and Fagan is OK not having his prized non hurt asset not work out anywhere against anyone.

You never slow play Aces he has like J,10.

Ive been a big fan of Jordan Hill and lately ive been hearing everything from him going 3rd to 18th. If he’s there at 8 then knicks need to take him, then try to buy or trade for a late first rounder for maynor, lawson, or teague.

duhon/maynor
chandler
gallo
hill/harrington
curry

showcase curry off an try anything possible to dump his contract for anything. sign and trade lee and nate for picks/role players. entice lebron with a young pg, chandler, gallo, hill, and 2010 picks, all you need is a center and lebron can lead that team through the east while they develop.

Since we’re on the topic of jordan hill i’ve heard Mikki Moore comparisons.

Laughable.

The similarities end at their dreads.

That’s ridiculous….

TD

Haven’t you noticed how all these draft sites, when making player comparisons, usually always compare a player to someone who looks like him. If you’re white, you’re usually only compared to someone like Bird, Van Horn, Redick, etc. It’s pretty funny but it happens every year.

lol, so true and very funny

Hill has been compared to..

Chris Bosh
Brian Grant
Mikki Moore
all have dreads…

Ricky Rubio gets compared to
Pete Maravich
Steve Nash
white guys with medium length hair

BJ Mullens..the white center gets compared too..
Chris Kaman, another white center

Hasheem Thabeet has been compared to every native-african to play in the NBA

Well the Hill comparisons are ridiculous, Rubio is compared to Maravich and Nash because of passing ability, while the fact they look similar is just a coincidence, and Thabeet is compared to Mutumbo because of the blocking ability. But the Hill comparisons are just ridiculous. Just for thought, WHO would people compare to Hill, excluding all players with dreads.

If he is really becoming consistant at hitting that midrange jumper i think offensivly his upside could compare to lamarcus aldridge…I don’t like trying to compare players from college to nba because the talent level they are playing against is very different. Supposedly Aldridge isn’t as great defensively, I don’t see him play enough to really compare the two.

From what I know hill is supposed to be a good defensive prospect who can block shots, rebound, and run. His offense has increased greatly, and i feel he can develop into a very solid all around player, a great role player for a 2010 star.

Not necessarily true. You can slow play if someone else is making noise

lol..so true

Not everything we do has to be based around having enough room to sign 2 max free agents in 2010. Do you guys realize how crazy that is. That means we are banking on signing pretty much LeBron and Wade. That never happens in the NBA, and its not the way DW and MD are building our team. Yes, we want flexibility so that we can sing one of them if they become available, but the real goal is to find young cheap talent and develop young players into great players, and pick up midlevel veterans along the way, until we have a really solid team. THEN, maybe, we can get to sign one of those max guys.

To completely shrug off any scenario that prevents us from “signing 2 max free agents” is ludacris. That is a fantasy. How often do you see contenders built from randomly signing the two best players in the league from free agency. IT doesnt work like that, it never has and never will. We are building a team the real way. Signing one max free agent and one 10 million dollar player should be enough if we have developed the team that i believe we are developing. Sure, I’d love lebron and wade, but that fantasy has no relevance when deciding what to do in the draft and the offseason.

To be honest, I’m sick of pf/centers…a pf like David lee cannot play center.
Chris Wilcox cant really play center that well either.(better than lee)

in my Opinion, get a 6’11/7 ft guy that has played center throughout HS and college.

If your Going to get hill. DEFINITELY get Mullins or Gortat, and keep lee. (build a Laker type front court)

As for the guards, get a guard that can both score and pass , (flynn, curry).

That way you can score from outside, or get it to your Bigs in transition or on the block in a half court set.

I feel like we sort of have a hole in the SG position though. (Larry Hughes is TOO expensive)

Anyone Agree?? ^^

Yo Jeff

two words….

Boston Celtics

(ray allen and keving garnett)

They were acquired by trade not by free agent signing

common, was that really a trade?
they got scrubs for superstars

The Knicks main goal this off-season is to acquire as much young talent as possible

Well Jeff that has never been done because… the fact that All-stars like James, Bosh and Wade signed contracts by “mutual agreement” was unprecedented (correct me if I’m wrong). They wanted to be free agents at the same time – I’ve never seen that before – and they did that for a reason. Anyways the Knicks will have to sign at least one big star if they want to win a championship and we’ll be more attractive if we have enough space to sign two max players.

Back to Jordan Hill. He’s clearly not a Chris Bosh or a Mikki Moore type of player. A rich man’s Chris Wilcox may be a better comparison but Hill will be tougher in my opinion. Maybe a less-talented Al Horford or Kenyon Martin if his jumpshot gets better.

1. Rubio’s buyout is becoming a larger issue. we learned that it was used as a Spanish IRS payment and it is higher than once thought. And goes UP next year

2. Rubio didnt work out in Europe for anyone

3. Rubio has NO plans to work out for anyone in the US. This is reducing his value against the other PGs

4. The top PGs are all working out HARD against each other and often. Holiday worked out in Sacto twice an dthe others are agressively making the rounds

5. Flynn is moving up the charts as is Curry, Evans and Holiday

6. Ricky dont want to play in no small market

7. The teams ahead of us are either poorly positioned in terms of their future and their coaching situation. Minny doesnt have a coach and Sacto has a new one)

8. Donnie is saying that he is OK sitting at the 8 slot and taking whoever is available (misdirection)

9. It is widely believed now that there is parody from picks 2-10 and it is best to choose based on comfort and fit

10. Ricky’s agent doesnt get along with some of the top 7 teams (golden State)

11. Monta Ellis is making waves about being the PG in GS.

I think Hill reminds me of Aldridge.

From Draft Express:

-In the unlikely case that Rubio slips past Sacramento, it appears that Washington will not hesitate to pick him if they feel like he’s indeed the best player on their draft board. The prevailing sentiment at the moment is that Rubio is not in a position to return to Joventut, and that he may have lost some of the leverage he once had by keeping his name in the draft and suing his former team.

This is what i was saying how can you go back to a team that you sued.

Guys what we fail to see is that the centers are in the 2010 draft!! We can get good talent later in this draft if we trade down and buy a pick!

The best way to go with this is to use the 8th pick as incentive to trade Curry….
Bottom line if you want the 8th pick you have to take back Curry and give us a 2009 low first RD pick & 2010 pick.

Say the Thunder give us there there pick at 25 and there 2010 or the Kings give us there 23 pick & there 2010 and we buy the 24th pick from Portland we can get talent and depth later in the draft this year and a real good pick in 2010.

Add to that getting rid of the Curry contract allowing us to really be ready in 2010 with young talent and a lot of money!

If we did it this way we could end with Darren Collison, Dajuan Summers or Sam Young in the 09 draft! or trade up some and get Earl Clark who I think would be great under DM!

Call me crazy but as of right now, I’d rather have Al Jefferson than KG.

Yeah Jefferson is a REAL nice player, and if healthy, i would also rather have than KG. Of course i’d rather have KG in his prime, but Jefferson is younger and despite some injuries REALLY good. Too bad he is definitely not an option

aldrige bro? his mid range game isn’t close to as good as aldrige is a softy. hill is a man in the post.

hill’s also frequently compared to ronny turiaf, and they have no similarities other than their toughness and the dreads. I mean, the Derrick Rose Jason Kidd comparisons were legit but most of the comparisons for the people in this draft are just based on looks and stupidity. I can see Rubio Maravich though, jut because of the flashiness but he doesn’t have the scoring ability that pistol had.

and calathes isn’t in the draft.

Guys come on can we focus on the Prospects at 8 Jonny Flynn, Ty Evans?, Brandon Jennings. Because all we need is a good shot blocker and a good PG. So draft a PG and then look at Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, get Gortat, DeAndre Jordan come on guys. Face It Rubio isn’t falling past 4.

Why wouldn’t he? I’ll repost what I said before – maybe you’ll tell me why you disagree :

1. Clippers – Obviously they’ll pick Blake Griffin.

2. Grizzlies – They would lose a lot of leverage in draft night/sign-and-trade scenarios (like any other small-market team) because Ricky Rubio doesn’t want to play there – they have OJ Mayo don’t need him anyways.

3. Thunder – They are a small-market team and they already have Russell Westbrook. They need a better/bigger jumpshooter (James Harden) or a center (Hasheem Thabeet).

4. KINGS – Sacramento is the key but maybe they prefer Flynn, Holiday, Evans or Jennings – they haven’t seen Rubio play. The Kings are the only obstacle IMO.

5. Wizards – They want to win now, Rubio’s a poor jumpshooter who will struggle physically. James Harden, Hasheem Thabeet and Stephen Curry are better fits.

6. Timberwolves – We’re talking about Minneapolis, Rubio will not play there in my opinion.

7. Warriors – Golden State is a mess. Don Nelson is the worst coach a rookie could play for, ask Latrell Sprewell and Anthony Randolph. Rubio will not play there.

I forgot where D.C. picked but I meant 5 especially since they said they want the best available talent..

Yeah way too bad. He’d rip up D’antoni’s system and solve a lot of problems. I’d rather have him than KG, Bosh, Amare, Yao, Duncan, Dirk, Lopez, Aldridge, Gasol etc. 2nd best big in the league, IMO. The guy should have been an all-star this year.

Mucha Rubio worked out for Sacramento, and he interviewed there. they wouldn’t let him pass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fML8NINtbQ

He didn’t work out, they just interviewed him didn’t they? Correct me if I’m wrong but he didn’t work out.

Maybe they all agreed to sign with the Knicks for $10mil/yr a piece and become the most dominant basketball team in NBA history by winning 7 rings. I think that’s what I’ll try to dream about tonight.

oh maybe you’re right. but also curry’s noticing how his stock is rising so he scheduled a workout with okc. damn, the chances are lookking slimmer and slimmer

I’m starting to lean towards Hill more because it gives us more leverage to bring in more talent by using Lee as a trading chip and we would have a tough defensive PF/C that can shoot it and has moves in the post but either way I say were gonna get a good player as long as its not Jrue Holiday im good.

I’d like to agree with you, but I just can’t get over the fact that the 2010 Free Agency is one of a kind. Just like the Boston Celtic Championship last year was one of a kind, a perfect storm. At that time, have you ever seen a championship team build in just 1 season? No. But they did it.

I’m not saying that we will definitely get D-wade and Lebron in 2010, but to get out of the running so early would be very irresponsible. I still say we TRY to move up the draft to get curry or rubio, WITHOUT jeopardizing the 2010 cap. If it’s not there, then let’s just sit tight at 8.

Thank you!! i’ll say it again.. maybe championship teams haven’t been made via free agency. But this 2010 summer is unique, a perfect storm, if you will. Just like Boston’s championship.

To leave the 2010 plan so suddenly, would be very irresponsible of DW.

You are correct

LOve this one…. Rubio going from hot sunny Spain to cold ,depressed and losing Sota…

Small market

buy out issue

Dont see Rubio’s camp enamored with that one

Donnie can swap contracts with the same length

Example

8,jeffries and mobley/hughes/harington ( 1 of them ) for 2 , darko & jaric

Jaric is not fitting well there but might here. darko blocks sots if nothing else and the rest is an easy wash…

Just one example. Until we hear more news from Rubio’s camp , its really hard to say

Donnie wont mess up 2010 plan to get Rubio and nor should he

CircleLimit4

“Maybe they all agreed to sign with the Knicks for $10mil/yr a piece and become the most dominant basketball team in NBA history by winning 7 rings. I think that’s what I’ll try to dream about tonight.”

Check your NBA history:
From 1957–1969 the Celtics went to the finals 12 times in 13 years and were victorious in 11 tries, including 8 years in a row.

I can’t stand anything related to Boston, but it is a fact.

Nontheless, right now, I would settle for a Knicks winning season!

Myles A. Mills

“and calathes isn’t in the draft.”

Myles: Click the link below to the NBA website.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/06/16/early.entrants.withdraw/index.html

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