Isola: Knicks offering Lee 8 million Per

by Tommy Dee on July 1st, 2009 at 9:10 am

Via Frank Isola:

“…A team source claims the Knicks will offer Lee a four-year deal worth $32 million, which is below his asking price of $10 million per season. The Knicks have the right to match any offer given to Lee, as well as Robinson, but the club wants to remain fiscally responsible as it pertains to the summer of 2010.

“There’s no question he’d love to stay in New York,” Lee’s agent, Mark Bartelstein said yesterday. “But you are only a free agent so many times in our career, especially in the prime of your career.”

Portland is expected to make a strong push for Lee, who averaged career bests in scoring (16 points) and rebounds (11.7). Detroit and Oklahoma City also have the cap room to make Lee a substantial offer.

It is no coincidence that the Knicks drafted a power forward (Jordan Hill) and a guard (Toney Douglas) as insurance in case they lose Lee and Robinson. Of the two, the Knicks seem more committed to keeping Lee. Robinson could stick around if he were to accept the Knicks’ $2.9 million qualifying offer. The Knicks also have the option of working out a sign-and-trade with either Lee or Robinson.

If Walsh can’t land Kidd, the Knicks would pursue Milwaukee restricted free agent guard Ramon Sessions, who once played summer ball in South Carolina for Knicks assistant coach Dan D’Antoni.

The Knicks, according to a source, also intend to talk to Suns free agent Grant Hill. However, Phoenix is looking to re-sign Hill, who has expressed an interest in returning to the club…”

8 million for 4 years is a very fair offer, maybe even a 5th year is reasonable. Stay tuned to hear what other teams will offer.

Marc Berman is saying that the offer will be 7 million.

“….Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni meet today with Kidd in their longshot bid while their own free agents, Nate Robinson and David Lee, hit the open market.

Portland and Sacramento have interest in Robinson, a source said. “He wants to be back,” a Robinson confidant said. “But he knows he probably won’t be.”

Lee’s agent will receive an initial offer from Walsh, expected to be at $7 million per. Lee likely will be pursued by under-the-cap teams — Oklahoma City, Portland, Memphis, Detroit. The Knicks other free agent, Chris Wilcox, won’t be re-signed…”

Again, as TKB reported weeks ago, Portland has it’s eyes on Andre Miller and has no interest in Nate at this point.

  • edhan

    Idk, considering that Lee really wants to stay and his very attractive g/f wants him to stay, this is probably the best deal he’s going to get.

  • KBT1615

    Grant Hill? what……….

  • danisrob

    If we go after Kidd is it a one year rental or we giving him a multi year deal?

    I am kinda hoping for a sign and trade with Lee, as much as I have loved him during his years here, i just dont see where his future in the team is? The PF to Bosh’s C perhaps? Wasn’t Gallo supposed to be our long term answer at PF wants he gets bigger?

  • Sergio

    $8M is wayyy too much for David Lee.

  • KBT1615

    I think it would be 1 or 2 years.

  • BiggieSmalls

    he dates Sabini Gadecki — the on scene reporter for the World Poker Tour.

    they do 18 events in a 12 month period all around the world withevents lasting from 3 to 7 days..

    that’s quite a schedule to be away from NYC. Given that schedule combined with Lee’s NBA travel schedule (and resources) you’d think they could live anywhere.

  • Cheech

    Come on dave take that deal and run to msg with it!

    8 mill is fair. with the way everything is. hes probably only going to get offered 9 mill from other teams. So whats one mill between friends. Im going to work, when i get home at 5:30 im hoping to read: “Dave Lee verbally accepts Knicks offer. The deal will become official on July 8th. ”
    (again thats what i hope i read)
    Make it happen DW!

  • BiggieSmalls

    I agree. 8 mil seems like very close to fair value.

    It doesnt look like he is getting a 10 mil offer on the open market. Likely he’ll get about 8.5 on the open market so 8 doesnt represent much of a home town discount.

  • knicksbro

    Gallo is a small forward like Turkaglu. He can’t guard power forwards and he’s a shooter. And we would not get Bosh now because we just got Hill, and we wouldn’t spend all that money on Bosh because Hill is our future PF.

  • knicksbro

    Mavs offered Kidd 8 mill per year, we can only offer 5.6 mill.

  • KBT1615

    OK Time to realize that this is a lost cause and start some S&T offers.

  • danisrob

    It would be great if Hill can ever be as good as Bosh but right now he has not done a thing and Id say the Knicks are still aiming for Bosh and Lebron next year.

    Could it work playing Gallo at 3 Lebron at 4 and Bosh at 5 in D’Antoni’s system? With Hill off the bench?

  • BiggieSmalls

    AND they offered three years.. I think 2 are guaranteed.

    Move on from this Kidd talk. No way he accepts 5.6 for one year to come to NYC. Unless DW can move Curry/Mobley for T Mac in the next 48/72 hours this aint happening.

  • slambam

    David Lee was one of my favorite players last year, but i can see this turning into an untradeable bad contract. Everyone who gets a big contract earns it for a reason, but I feel like 8 mill is a lot for someone with big numbers on a D’Antoni team. I like him a lot, i just see the worst

  • KBT1615

    It would depend who is better Gallo at the 3 or Jordan Hill at the 4?

  • BiggieSmalls

    Ric Bucher Tweet this AM regarding Eddy C to Houston for t Mac

    That was an example of a deal Houston turned down weeks ago for TMac that they might have to re-consider. They hope to do better.

  • BiggieSmalls

    Ric Bucher tweet last nite regarding D Lee

    Was told Mem GM wanted to make offer to DLee. Shot down by the owner. What did CWallace do in a previous life to deserve this?

  • knicksbro

    No way could Lebron be the 4 and Bosh be the 5. If we had Lebron playing the 4 we would need a legit Center. We need to see how Darko plays because Dantoni has high hopes for him. Maybe he would stick around. We could also see a guy like Camby or Gortat coming, so between them and Curry and Darko, they would be the Centers. Also, my guess is that Bosh goes to Miami to play with his buddy Dwayne Wade. Hill is too high of a pick to keep on the bench, and his style of play is too close to Bosh’s to sign Bosh. I can see Dantoni changing Hill’s style of play to a more smooth and mature play like Amare Stoudamire. Dantoni and Walsh bring in a more European, mature, and professional style of play, and they will work on Hill.

  • knicksbro

    As much as I see that David Lee IS a good player, I never see him going beyond being a good player. I don’t see him ever being a star. As for him and Nate Rob, I don’t see them ever playing on a good team. They are not championship kind of winners. I say we sign and trade both of them and try to get Rubio. However, if we can’t, we get rid of Nate but consider keeping Lee. I can’t see a reason for us resigning Nate Rob at all.

  • knicksbro

    As much as I see that David Lee IS a good player, I never see him going beyond being a good player. I don’t see him ever being a star. As for him and Nate Rob, I don’t see them ever playing on a good team. They are not championship kind of winners. I say we sign and trade both of them and try to get Rubio. However, if we can’t, we get rid of Nate but consider keeping Lee. I can’t see a reason for us resigning Nate Rob at all.

  • Jeff Cykiert

    I love the idea of grant hill i have been saying it for a while.

    Defense, Leadership, and playmaking: The three things we have been lacking, and he provides all three. I would use our midlevel on him.

    How does the MLE work? Isn’t the point of it that it doesn’t effect cap room? Hence the word “exception’?

  • joeyballz

    I agree I think 8 mill is not much of a hometown discount…

  • knicksbro

    The MLE is an exception in the salary cap. It lets a team sign one player to the average NBA salary, which is about 5.6 million this year. A team can do this even if they are already over the salary cap or if this would put them over the cap.

  • knicksbro

    David Lee won’t be a starter for much longer because of Hill anyway. It isn’t worth offering him 10 or 11 million when we juts signed a PF with a ton of potential. We need to be firm with the 8 million dollar offer and hopefully we could sign and trade if he gets a higher offer.

  • BiggieSmalls

    Ken Berger with his mid morning FA update:

    Lee’s camp spoke with numerous teams after the negotiating period began at 12:01 a.m. Oklahoma City and Lee’s current team, the Knicks — who have matching rights as Lee is a restricted free agent — were among them, according to a source. Lee’s situation is expected to unfold over the next 48-72 hours, and a key aspect is how the Knicks decide to proceed with their eyes still firmly on a plan to clear significant cap space for next summer’s free agent bounty.

  • edhan

    thanks for the update biggie

    so Sabina and 8+ mil for D Lee…Someone is jealous

  • Starburied

    This may be a dumb question, but why would the Bucks commit to Sessions and let Villanueva walk, only to have another team sign Sessions away and lose both?

    Sessions is a nice young player who can get to the rim and finish as well as distribute the ball in a motion offense. However, his jump shot from 15 feet and beyond is not good. He shot just 17% from 3 last season. That’s not an ideal fit in the system, but at a qualifying offer of just pennies over a $1 million, the Knicks should just take Sessions going forward. He can probably provide similar (if not better) stats at a price much lower than Kidd/Nash and for a longer time. Any offer to him won’t hurt the cap.

    His stats in terms of points and assists were similar to those of Rajon Rondo/Andre Miller last season (15 and 8 off the top of my head). Remember that he wasn’t passing to Redd or Bogut for much of the second half of the season so the assists stand to rise with a healthy team.

  • knicksbro

    Knicks may not be able to pay the right amount to any of the free agent PG’s. We need to stay under the cap, and we can’t afford to offer a major contract that interferes with our 2010 plan for a guy like Ramon Sessions. If we are going after those guys, DW really should be trying to get Rubio, and looking to do some sign and trades. If we take in Rubio at a loss to the T-Wolves, it would be worth it because we wouldn’t have to worry about giving a free agent PG too much money, when they may not even be worth it.

  • Bart

    Time for the sign and trade with Portland Get me Bayless and Outlaw for Lee if they can’t work it out with Lee I say try Nate for Bayless we need to get Bayless to start at PG, We don’t need Outlaw so we can use him to move Jefferies.

  • knicksbro

    Bayless is not the pg we need. He can put points up but we passed on him last year for a reason. We need more of a quarterback.

  • Bart

    If Steph Curry could be a point guard for us Bayless can too they are the same type of players Dynamic PG’s. Jerryd’s problem is he gets no playing time Portland he is extremely talented and he grew up around Dantoni he can get the best outta him.

  • knicksbro

    Curry is a much better shooter than Bayless. Bayless can shoot but the reason Curry was so desired was because of his amazing shooting ability and Bayless doesn’t have the kind of touch Curry does.

  • joetheknick

    By commiting to Sessions, he is under contract to Mil for the coming year subject only to a better offer which Mil decides not to match. If a team were to offer Sessions 5m then Mil could match or loss him. With CharlieV, Mil did not commitment because it did not want to be responsible to pay him going forward. CharlieV is a free agent and can sign with any team. If the Knicks want Sessions, they have to offer enough so that Mil does not match. 1.1 m will not do it.

  • BiggieSmalls

    i actually think the 8 mil is too high. He should be offered 6.5 for the 25 or so minutes he will likely log in a REAL season when he is not the starting center.

  • bob go knicks

    you are living in fantasy land if you think 8 mil is the most any team will offer D.LEE with 12 mil from memphis or okc he can get plenty of other girls

  • bob go knicks

    are you making this stuff up as you go along?hill hasnt played an NBA second,and you already have him staring over DAVID LEE? HILL isnt THAT good

  • knicksbro

    Well yeah, I assume that by the amount that Dantoni and Walsh like Hill, and the fact that he was the 8th pick, he will eventually start. Lottery picks aren’t usually used to take bench warmers. So yeah if David Lee is getting over payed and offered a 4 year deal, it isn’t worth it. I don’t expect lee to still be in the starting lineup in 4 years…

    It’s not worth spending that piece of the 2010 money. Do you really see David Lee as the key piece in winning a championship?
    I don’t.