Don’t Miss these Simple Points

by Tommy Dee on July 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am

Update 12:15- ESPN is now reporting that the conversation between Lebron and Ariza never took place.

I’m really enjoying all of this posturing from Cavs fans in the wake of this morning’s “story” on ESPN. To me, absolutely nothing has changed.

If Lebron doesn’t sign an extension,thus passing on the players he needs to win a championship to come to his roster, then it’s simply sensational journalism.

I mean even part of the article reads that Trevor Ariza wasn’t buying James’ claim.

So you can’t have it both ways. If you think Lebron will shun New York, this does zero to strengthen your case. If you think he is coming, you’d never know he was based on anything he says. Sure, we post pictures of his friends wearing “I Love NY” t-shirts, but I’d hope you’d take them as seriously as we take this story.

All of this side stuff and speculation is clouding a very simple point.

The bottom line, for me, is that ESPN is the worldwide powerhouse. They talk sports all day long. Wouldn’t you expect Lebron to talk about this one? Maybe clear this one up? Or how about giving the reporter the luxury of a sit down on “Sunday Conversation?”

The answer is because this isn’t a story, and every day that Lebron doesn’t sign his extension is a day in the favor of him finding an address elsewhere. Think about it, the first argument you get from a Cleveland supporter is because he’s from there and they can offer the most money and the second is that the Knicks stink. The second point is to illustrate and hammer home the fact that Lebron craves championships.

Really?

Well, if he wanted a championship, he’d give his team the best chance to win THIS YEAR and the years following. Do you really think that the guy is unhappy that guys like Rasheed Wallace, Ron Artest and Charlie Villanueva, players who could really help him win this year, aren’t there? Don’t you think he would be fuming that his management couldn’t secure any one of them?

He’s not upset because his wavering is the reason they are not there and he knows it.

We’re talking about a warrior, and a player who uncharacteristically stormed off the floor without shaking hands with Dwight Howard, which to me was a clear example of how badly he wants to win. He couldn’t stomach the sight of a team celebrating. Right or wrong, he left the floor because that’s how much he wanted to win. He didn’t know what to do when he lost.

So now I’m supposed to believe that his attitude has changed?  That he won’t do everything it takes to bring in the talent to get over that frustrating hump THIS YEAR when no other team  is standing pat?

You want me to believe that he thinks Shaq alone is that player to take him to the promise land?

You want me to believe that Lebron is not giving his team the best chance at a title this year because he wants to “keep his options open” in 2010?

Well I don’t. I didn’t before today and I won’t tomorrow.

  • James

    Leading with thinskinned sarcasm? Really? Wow, Tommy, it really hurts your feelings when anyone hints Lebron might just possibly resign in Cleveland, huh? Until something changes, he’s their player, and has been for years. I think Cavs fans can be forgiven for hoping that their guy might stay home, don’t you? Hardly amounts to “posturing”.

  • adam

    although, by writing this post, you make all that nonsensical senationalist journalism worthwhile. they want to keep people talking, and here you are, with one of the bigger knicks outlets, doing just that- the same speculating they are. you think one thing, they think another. i’m just saying- you can’t knock them for speculating then do the same thing.

    the whole story is pretty simple: if he signs an extension, he’s staying. if he doesn’t then he’s either staying or not baseed on this season. a championship, and he stays, in my opinion. if management presents him with a great championship opportunity and he blows it, he still might stay, because he knows it can happen. that’s a toss-up. and if management drops the ball and does squat, and he’s fed up, he takes off next summer. the speculation on what he’s thinking is dumb- what should be happening is an analysis of the other teams in the nba that will get in his way of a ‘ship this year. how good those teams are, and if they can stop the cavs, will really determine if he stays or not. in my opinion. damn long comment

  • charlie

    I’m confused…isn’t Cleveland over the cap for next season already? How can they add another free agent as mentioned in the post?

  • Bruno

    It’s all a marketing ploy and nothing more. LeBron will resign when all is said and done. Ariza went to Houston to be a featured player instead of Bron-Bron and Shaq’s sidekick.

  • bob go knicks

    THIS is really a waste of time.this back n forth stuff will be going on for another 2 years,and by then ,nobody will care ,or remember “WHO SAID WHAT FIRST” when it happens it happens ,no offensebut you guys spend way too much time trying to disect lebrons movements,body language,or wheather a sneeze was real ,or did he mean it to say some thing that he was leaving the cavs.you can join in on the fun if you want,but i aint havin any

  • Cammydog0123

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mpga7h

    I thought of a trade so great donnie walsh wont think of it. The knicks want cap space. the rockets need a pg and a big center and dont want t mac. the bulls dont want hinrich cuz of derrick rose. heres a perfect 3 way team trade that works for every team and improves every team. SHOW THIS TO EVERY SO THIS CAN GET AROUND.

  • coocoo4knicks

    Cammydog – No offense, but this trade is NOT going to happen, regardless of how many times you post it. I can’t imagine Chicago doing this trade.

  • danny

    The Cavs didn’t even go after Rasheed Wallace

  • jgeo316

    Oh by the way… Lebron denies Ariza’s story. This is a new update

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4311048

  • danny

    If the Knicks wanted Lebron they wouldn’t have hired Don Nelso Jr., D’Antoni. That system accounts for great regular seasons, and post season let downs. Look at Don Nelson- the king of not playing defense and scoring 120 points a night. Don is one of 3 coaches to win 1,000 games, but has never coaches a team to the Finals. The reason is simple: in the regular season teams don’t emphasize defense like they do in the playoffs.

    Now if the Knicks went out and got Pat Riley there would be serious debate as to Lebron headed to NYC- but D’Antoni isn’t winning anything except a bunch of regular season games.

  • gbaked

    i am with u tommy.

    lebron wil be a knick.

  • da0213

    Honestly, Tommy – your fixation with LeBron is starting to creep into Berman/Marbury territory.

  • danny

    Tommy needs Lebron in New York just like the rest of the media. If Lebron comes to the Knicks, Tommy’s blog all of a sudden become more relevent which means more money in his pockets.

    This is why you have to take all media with a grain of salt. New York needs Lebron more than Lebron needs New York. They will report and comment things they wish to happen. If Lebron comes to New York, more people buy basketball publications in New York, and more people watch basketball related content which means the people behind that make more money.

  • KBT1615

    Or try this crazy theory danny, Tommy is a Knick fan and wants to see Us Do Good!!!! O no real fans run Danny……
    And keep avoiding the Fact that Mike is not Nellie jr he got cheated out of the Finals if you don’t remember Genius.

  • Bruno

    They only have $36m on the books for 10-11.

  • knicksbro

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Obviously 2 Cavs fans above

  • da0213

    Not all real fans talk about LeBron James in practically every other post. Just saying…

  • aarbel

    On a completely unrelated topic……

    http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090707_Rockets_pass_on_Dalembert.html

    Could Donnie Walsh’s remark about having more cap room then people realize be a possible Curry move to Houston?

  • knicksbro

    It very well could be…

  • bmathews77

    Houston is having little luck with a Center with Dikembe Mutmbo retired and Yao’s status for next season and possibly beyond in doubt. I think Eddy Curry to Houston is making more and more sense. Now if it will only happen….

  • epreneur7

    Ill have to agree with you adam, all of this speculating is really getting out of hand. In the defense of my man Tommy Dee, you can’t blame New Yorkers for falling in love with speculation. We haven’t made the playoffs since 2004 when we got swept by the NJ nets. We need a star here in NY, but in all honesty, i feel we need to focus on this upcoming season. We still have a full season of basketball to play before the 2010 craziness. We speculate because of all the rumors and subliminal messages james has been throwing at us. Wearing Yankee caps and the nike commercial that shows a blue and orange bird (knick colors) seating while puppet james is lifting weights and counting to 2010 , and then stops and the bird fly’s away lol. Those are priceless schemes to have Knicks and Cavalier fans talking all the way up to the summer of 2010. We can’t blame Cavalier fans for reading the ariza comments and getting hype about it, cause thats exactly what we do when we see Lebron say how much he loves the city of NY. Although with Shaq, Cleveland is now a powerhouse in the East and the league, remember, Orlando got Carter and boston has Garnett and Rasheed wallace now. The competition is getting thick, we can only focus on our knicks and hope for a strong playoff run this season. Lets go KNicks!!!!!

  • Cammydog0123

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mpga7h

    I thought of a trade so great donnie walsh wont think of it. The knicks want cap space. the rockets need a pg and a big center and dont want t mac. the bulls dont want hinrich cuz of derrick rose. heres a perfect 3 way team trade that works for every team and improves every team. SHOW THIS TO EVERY SO THIS CAN GET AROUND…..

  • charlie

    But, the talk in the post was for next year and LBJ’s response (or lack thereof) to the Cavs lack of ability to bring on key free agents from this off season’s class…

  • BiggieSmalls

    I dont see a problem wit all this. After all it is the off season.. Speculating is what happens.

    Lebron HAD TO expect this when he leaves little hints that he is possibly not staying in Cleveland. KOBE said outright that he wants to stay in LA. Nothing from Lebron. What are people to take from all this?

    If he was staying he would have signed an extension. He HAD TO know that Free Agents would not touch Cleveland with a 10 foot pole unless HE committed first. Look what Shaq said — Ill go if Lebron signs for 3 years — NO SIGNATURE.

    Now Lebron DENIES the Ariza story.. Come to Papa Lebron.. Broadway Awaits.

  • charlie

    This guy is a tool…

    Sources close to Ariza tell me he said it, now sources close to LeBron say he didn’t say it.

    Yippee! I got to be quoted twice in a morning!

  • BiggieSmalls

    this is bordering on SPAM now.

  • gbaked

    dude…

    stop.

  • Dan C

    There’s something funny about calling something a non-story and then posting twice on it in one morning. Someone wants to believe something in the worst way, it would seem.

    When someone can give a good basketball reason for James to come to the Knicks, I’ll consider the option. Here’s a hint: playing in NYC for the sake of being in NYC and being around the Nike marketing machine does not count. The Knicks are no more likely to be a contender with him than the Cavaliers are in 2010 for all we can tell, not to mention they can offer more money. I’m sick as a dog of all this “Lebron has to come to New York because we’re the Knicks and he’s Lebron” crap. Let’s try and win some games this year before we get out the annointing oil and declare Lebron will be a Knick because, why, he just has to be!

  • BiggieSmalls

    Any time Lebron DOESNT take the opportunity to PUBLICLY avow his commitment to Cleveland LONG TERM it is news

  • knicksbro

    You’re right, the fact that Lebron has stated that he wants to become a billionaire and NYC just happens to be the largest market in the county means nothing. The fact that Cleveland is a dump and NYC is the world’s greatest city means nothing. The fact that Lebron would be a much bigger celebrity in NYC than he could ever imagine in Cleveland means nothing. The fact that the Knicks now have talented young, exciting players, compared to the extremely mediocre supporting cast in Cleveland means nothing either. Oh, and the fact that Lebron is just realizing how crappy his team really is means nothing either. Right, it makes sense for Lebron James to stay in Cleveland. Sure.

  • bmathews77

    Why would NBA talent want to even want to go to Cleveland…check out this video from Cleveland Tourism:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

  • da0213

    If you say so… but either way, this blog in particular needs a new angle. The “just because we’re NYC” slant – as a poster above already commented – is just not cutting it, post after post.

    You know, I look at a team like Chicago that has 26mil on the books for 2010. Who’s to say that Midwest heroes LeBron and D-Wade won’t team up in the Windy City in 2010 for a championship?

    The point is you just don’t know, and when you’re consistently on the record for two years straight saying that a certain player is heading somewhere “just because,” not only does it become tiring for the reader, but you set yourself up to look like a complete ass should it not happen.

    Bottom line: I’d much rather read an update on Gallinari, or see more spotlight on the new draft picks, then to read about how the corn in LeBron’s shit was grown on Long Island.

  • flanz0

    The Cavs can give more money to Bron in a contract, but the city of NY offers him more money than any other city, possibly in the entire world. Do not think for one second that Bron didn’t take notice that Kobe makes more money than he does. Bron knows that playing in a bigger market brings more $$$. Moving from big-fish-small-pond status in Cleveland to king-fish-biggest-pond status in NY would increase his revenue exponentially. This isn’t saying “Bron should be a Knick because he has to be!” This is saying that Bron should be a Knick because he’s the biggest star in the world, NY is the biggest stage in the world, and our supporting cast isn’t really that much worse than the one he gets right now in Cleveland. Figure a few more savvy personnel moves makes the rosters a wash (sans-Bron), then why is it outrageous to expect Bron to jump ship and come to the biggest stage in the world?

  • gbaked

    “The Knicks are no more likely to be a contender with him than the Cavaliers are in 2010 for all we can tell, not to mention they can offer more money.”

    /fail

  • knicksbro

    OK, first of all, Chicago ain’t New York. Second of all, 26 million you think is enough for Wade AND Lebron? HAHAHAHA YEAH RIGHT!!

  • flanz0

    Also, if Bron wants to become a billion-dollar athlete, then he needs to get out of Cleveland. Ask any foreigner from Europe, and they know Kobe Bryant, but don’t know who Lebron James is. If Bron comes to NY, they’ll know damn well who he is.

  • knicksbro

    Yea and the point is, when Lebron IS a free agent next summer, and he is looking at the Cavs and the Knicks, the Knicks are going to be the MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more attractive looking team. Period.

  • flanz0

    that’s $26 million on the books. Meaning it’s (salary cap)-($26 million)=cap space. Yeah….I think they’d have enough $.

  • da0213

    The fact that the Knicks now have talented young, exciting players, compared to the extremely mediocre supporting cast in Cleveland means nothing either.

    Yo, I’m no Cavs fan in the slightest, but please tell me you’re not serious. Last I checked, the only difference between this year’s Knicks and last year’s, thus far, is the addition of two rookies who have yet to play a game in the NBA, as well as Darko – who has yet to live up to his potential.

    Try to keep in perspective that the current Cavs team – minus Shaq – won 60+ games last year and went to the conference finals. Are they a mediocre team? Shit, yes – when compared to the Magic or the Lakers!

    But trust me, the Cavs don’t have to do a thing for the rest of this offseason, and you can bet your ass they’ll still mop the floor with whatever the Knicks put on the court come November.

  • BiggieSmalls

    maybe you haven’t been following this blog very long but Lebron is NOT the subject of “post after post” here.

    NYC is the media and financial and marketing capitol of the world. If the Knicks have the cap space and the young players in 2010 AND have a great coach who Lebron LOVES AND a potential bright future then the Knicks have a better than good shot at him.

    It’s all speculation until 2010 BUT Lebron does nothing to quell the speculation with his and his entourage’s antics this past year and this off season.

    Look, the fact is LEBRON has not committed to CLEVELAND long term. One of the BIG stories this offseason is why attractive free agents are not beating the doors down that the Q to sign up and play next to the King. The reason for that is that Lebron continues to not commit to staying long term in Cleveland.

  • adam

    false. im a huge knicks fan. just one tired of all thise speculation, especially when it blocks the real issues- what the hell is gonna happen THIS season

  • BiggieSmalls

    without Lebron that team wins 25 games MAAX

  • adam

    agreed. there are other issues… and i think even donnie would say its not just about lebron, but about turning the team into a powerhouse next season. yes, lebron can help that. but so can wade, bosh, amare, dirk, roy, nash, rondo, perhaps pierce, etc etc. the focus on solely lebron is played out and annoying.

  • epreneur7

    i have to agree with you…..i said it before……..Forbes magazine released its top ten athletes based on earnings…Tiger number one….Kobe number 3….David Beckham number 5…Lebron number 6. Really number 6??? lets face reality, even though Lebron wants to win a ring so bad for his hometown team, he also wants to be the biggest name of all-time in sports. One way he could accomplish that….join a bigger market…which equals NY..

  • gbaked

    yes they will

    because they have the best player in the game.

    take him away and the teams are very similar.

  • danny

    He is already #1 in the NBA in endorsements. He doesn’t need New York, New York needs him.

  • BiggieSmalls

    WHOA WHOA WHOA>. 26 mil “on the books” doesnt include Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah’s team options for 9 mil (total) AND Ty Thomas;s 6 mil qualifying offer.,

    So they are locekd in at 41 against a cap number of likely 57 BEFORE they think about offering Ty Thomas an RFA contract OR filling out their roster that will be 6 strong — so knock another 5 mil off for MINIMUM salary players..

    Chicago doesnt have MAX room in 2010

  • da0213

    Look dude, you’re obviously sharing the cup of Kool-Aid with Tommy, and that’s cool. But you don’t have a crystal ball anymore than he does, anymore than anyone else does. You’re predictions are just that: predictions, plain and simple. Your arguments aren’t anymore grounded than the arguments they make in Cleveland for LeBron staying.

    And you’re delusional if you think this blog doesn’t waste too much space on LBJ. Purely delusional.

  • knicksbro

    No, Lebron is looking for even more. He has stated that. He has said he wants to be a billionaire. He won’t do that in Cleveland, and has the best shot of doing that in NY. It’s as simple as that. Period.

  • BiggieSmalls

    Simple fact of the numbers no “crystal ball” needed-

    - Chicago is NOT an option for Lebron ..

    who is next on your list?

  • flanz0

    I think citing the win total for the Cavs last year is meaningless. Take Bron off that team and how many games do they win? 30? Bron really does make all the difference. And if I was Bron (which I clearly am not, so hopefully Bron is a rational thinking person) I would look at the teams as moving in opposite directions.

    The Cavs: TWO old-as-f*** centers, JJ Hickson (could be a solid rotation guy, but nothing to write home about), Boobie Gibson (a solid bench pg, nothing more), darnell jackson (bad), Tarence Kinsey (umm….no), Jawad Williams (who? I’m a UNC guy and don’t even know who this is), Mo williams (shoot-first PG) and Delonte West (would be better suited coming off of the bench). The only players that will be gone for next season are the two corpses in the middle and Jawad Williams. In the draft they got Danny Green (very solid player) and a guy from the Congo is nottttt quite ready yet (which is like saying my infant son is nottttt quite ready to start lifting weights).

    Now a lot can change on the Knicks roster between now and then. They could trade Chandler (I pray they don’t). But going into 2010 with D.Lee (most likely), Danilo, Chandler, Toney Douglass, Jordan Hill, nate (possibly), Jared Jeffries/Eddy Curry (praying both are gone), and very likely Grant Hill isn’t better than the sh!t sandwich that Cleveland is trying to pass as championship caliber? If the Knicks somehow move Curry’s contract, that means they have enough money to go out and sign Bosh and Bron. Or Bron and Wade. Or (if they get rid of Jeffries’ contract too) Bosh, Bron, and Wade. To say the Knicks have a lot less to come to than Cleveland is off base though. I think we should agree on that.

  • Chris Alvino

    danny- As a writer on this blog, I am not so sure you can say that about Tommy. Tommy, as am I and as you presumably are, is a big Knicks fan. LeBron to the Knicks next summer can lead to a title, something that has not happened here in 36 years. For him to write about this guy is not for money or fame, it is simply about hopes and dreams for his favorite team.

    Or at least that is my motive.

  • knicksbro

    Either way, that would still only leave them with about 30 million which still isn’t even close to enough for Wade AND Lebron. They are each 20+ million dollar players.

  • BiggieSmalls

    the bulls will be 15 mil under the cap in 2010/2011 MAYBE.. if they do NOTHING else to add to their CAP between now and then.

  • flanz0

    If Bron is #1 in the NBA endorsements while playing in Cleveland, I think it’s safe to say that he will be #1 in the world if he plays in NY or LA. It’s just a simple fact that there are more people, more businesses, more opportunity to market oneself (not in the sense that he needs his name out there more, but in the sense he can put his name on more checks). It’s not rocket science, it’s simple business. He will 100% make more money playing in a city that has more of it than his current city. Appearance fees alone could net the guy (assuming he charges $100K – a fair price considering Peyton Manning charges over $200K) a million dollars per month.

  • knicksbro

    Exactly my point. Thank you Biggie. If you take Lebron away from Cleveland, the Knicks are clearly the better and more talented team. Watch, when Lebron comes to New York, the situations will be completely reversed and the Knicks will be at the top while the Cavs sink back into the shitty team they were before Lebron.

  • bob go knicks

    i agree,its gettin scary.you are starting to sound like LENNY BRUCE reading from the court transcripts instead of doing his jokes

  • da0213

    Wow, you’re really ripped off that Kool Aid, aren’t you?

    The point I’m trying to make wasn’t so much about Chicago as a destination, as it was you have no clue what LeBron James is going to do in 2010 – not with any certainty, anyway – because I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume you’re NOT LEBRON JAMES.

    And while it appears you’re an amazing philosopher, you obviously wouldn’t be the best agent. Why in the hell would any free agent player looking for a championship sign an extension with a team that’s made an early exit from the postseason every year, especially when presumed to be a favorite? That makes no sense!

    His decision not to sign an extension thus far in no way means New York is his definite destination. No way whatsoever.

  • knicksbro

    Exactly, coming to the Knicks would make Lebron the king of NYC, which basically equals the king of the world. Look at Derek Jeter for example: He is the perfect example of how the NYC market and NYC overall can turn you into such a huge celebrity. Jeter and Lebron have similar attitudes: Cocky, cool, winning attitudes, competitive, and they both have a superstar image. Do you really think if Jeter was on, lets say, the Pittsburgh Pirates, that he would have even been 1/3 what he is now? I think not.

  • CircleLimit4

    What’s with all the complainy-pants here? There’s been a Lebron update. Big deal. These are first Lebron posts in a while. Mosts of the updates have been on the Kidd, Hill and Lee front. I bet people will be crying mercy if we bring up Rubio one more time too.

    They are 2 posts, and the second story is about a retraction of the first. Why get on Tommy’s case? I’m glad that he keeps this blog much more active than other Knick publications. It’s the off season you spoiled brats.

  • knicksbro

    What’s with the Kool-Aid comments? I don’t understand.

  • knicksbro

    YOU’RE FORGETTING ONE LITTLE THING…the CAVS before LEBRON came were just like the Knicks, only MUCH SHITTIER. How do you think they got that number 1 overall???? They were like a 17 win team that Lebron made into a 66 win team. If the Knicks are a 32 win team, just imagine what Lebron could do for them.

  • KBT1615

    Every other post over exaggerating are we? scratch that you are way over exaggerating…

  • BiggieSmalls

    no one said that NY is his “definite destination” without a tongue in cheek..

    But if Lebron WANTS a championship IN CLEVELAND he is doing a REAL BAD job in helping his GM get there.

    He could get Free agents to line up at the Q by just signing on for what he would get next year anyway — THE MAX contract.

    Every day he fails to put his signature on the contract and committing to Cleveland is another day that speculation will grow that he is plotting his exit. Period.

  • bob go knicks

    hes starting to sound like movie star papparazzi.its no longer about the story,it is now more about the reporter who is writing the story,as if there is a big prize for the blog-host or sports reporter who posts whats really gonna happen first .when LEBRON finally decides what he is gonna do officially,evryone who predicted he would sign with the knicks is gonna say “look ,i said it first on this certain date ,pat me on the back blah blah blah” and by then nobody will even care.except all of the journalists

  • Myles A. Mills

    this is why we write about lebron….63 comments..

  • joeyballz

    I dont understand why you get all fired up that we are speculating about Lebron. No shit we obviosly dont know where hes going and we can only HOPE he comes here. But this is blog man, and what you do on blogs is talk about who you want on your team, whether realsitic or not, and since there is a realistic chance that we might get Lebron, why NOT talk about it. It gives fans hope after years of having such a shitty team.

  • Dan C

    Interesting…in all of the replies, there has been nary a reason for Mr. James to come to New York that has to do with basketball. Judging from the discussion here (and that which I’ve been privy to before), the mediocrity of the Cavaliers supporting cast (accurate from all accounts) coupled with the Knicks supporting cast will be enough. How do we know what the Knicks starting five will even be? Will Duhon run the point in two years (probably/hopefully not)? Will Lee be around? Will Robinson? Will Chandler? How will Hill, Douglas, and Gallinari develop? There are so many unknowns regarding the Knicks status quo for the 10/11 season that to say the Knicks will field a supporting cast worthy of contention is unreasonable.

    That said, there seems to be little discussion of that here because, as I said, it’s entirely unknown. What is known is Lebron as an earner within a market which is not New York City (to say the least).

    According to Forbes, James is the third highest earning American athlete right now after Tiger Woods and Kobe Bryant. What does this tell us other than the obvious? It tells us that James has no reason to move to New York to “make money.” There is money to be made here, without question. But does James need to move here to make it? I say no, though this is certainly up for debate. Remember, James is all of 24 years old. As an earner, he will only continue to realize his potential, collect endorsements, and enjoy $40 million + years as he did from 6/08-6/09 (source: Forbes). A big market can be terribly useful, but it is not the be-all end-all here. Yao Ming broke the bank in Houston because of his instant celebrity and his willingness to market himself in endorsements. He doesn’t even have the most dynamic of personalities (from what I can tell from the Visa ‘can I write a check’ spots, admittedly a poor sample size), but it doesn’t matter. When you’ve already got a tremendous following, everything else falls into place.

    James has already got all of this. He has a signature sneaker with the most relevant athletics company in the country and arguably the world, endorsement galore, and – by the way – recently capped off one of the greatest individual basketball seasons in modern history. James is so popular and iconic in America now, at the age of 24, that a series of commercials depicting his puppet likeness voiced by Kenan Freaking Thompson were all the rage during the playoffs. Think about that. He wasn’t even in the spot in any way! He signed off on a puppet and a voice and made money. That’s how big James is. The point of all this is the same as the Yao point, except amplified ten times over. Lebron Jame does not go to the proverbial money. The money goes to him. If he wants to keep making money, it won’t be hard. All of his endorsers, Nike in particular, will go to him and his 35,000 square foot palace in suburban Ohio and woo him over with everything he has presently. Even the Cavalier organization is participating, allegeldy considering a Lemiuex-esque slice of ownership as part of their impending Godfather package. In no way does James “need” New York – rather, it is the franchise and the fans that need him.

    Ultimately, yes, I think James will remain a Cavalier. I’m dealing in the realm of speculation here, but it seems to be the most sensible option. At the age of 24, he brought his team to the brink of greatness. I have no reason to believe that this won’t happen again. The Cavaliers are one, maybe two players away from putting themselves over the hump (Shaq being neither of those one or two players, he’s done). I think James will hold out this summer and sign with Cleveland in twelve months time. The Cavaliers are a known variable, one he can easily work with and within. If they were to add a jump shooter along the lines of your basic Kyle Korver and a big who isn’t a member of the AARP with properly functioning legs (neither of which are unreasonable acquisitions), I think that team is poised for a long run in the league if James opts to stay which, ultimately, I believe he will.

  • BiggieSmalls

    the REAL Question is what has Lebron done or said that makes you think he is STAYING in Cleveland?

  • knicksbro

    What about the fact that NYC is just a much better and much more fun and interesting place to live than Cleveland? You do have to take that into account…

  • BiggieSmalls

    LOVE THIS..

    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/15932397

    CBS reports that the Pistons have entered into negotiations with Cavaliers assistant John Kuester

    Kuester, a former Pistons assistant under Larry Brown who is credited with diversifying the Cavs’ offense last season after coach Mike Brown gave him autonomy on that side of the floor.

    DIVERSIFIED THE CAVS OFFENSE???? Did they even WATCH the playoffs? THE Cavs offense was One on FIVE with Four guys standing around watching.

    Mike Brown is TOAST — Worst coach in the league from a strategic stand point. Lebron won Coach of the Year.

  • CircleLimit4

    1. You talk about unknowns in the Knicks lineup in 2010. You neglect the same unknowns in the Cavs lineup.

    2. You talk about Lebron being the third highest earning athlete and claim money is not an issue. That’s incredibly naive. The possibility of earning more money is ALWAYS and issue. No one claims Lebron “needs” New York, just like no one NEEDS to be a billionaire. Just because Lebron doesn’t need New York does not imply that he doesn’t want it. Poor argument.

    3. You chastise people for speculating about Lebron in NY, yet you’re speculating he stays in Cleveland. What gives? I speculate that Lebron doesn’t know what he wants right now and unless the Cavs reach the finals that the chances of Lebron leaving are 50/50.

    4. Ultimately I think you see the Cavs on the brink of greatness for multiple years as a talking point for him to stay. I see the fact that the Cavs organization cannot get him over that hurdle as a reason he would leave. Take these past playoffs as an example. Lebron played FANTASTIC during the playoffs. Ultimately it was his supporting cast that wasn’t strong enough. No one else on the team could be counted on for a clutch basket or defensive stop. Lebron wants a Dynasty. I’m not saying New York can provide that, but it’s looking more and more like that Cleveland cannot. I say the answer ultimately lies in how far the Cavs go in 09-10.

  • Cammydog0123

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mpga7h

    I thought of a trade so great donnie walsh wont think of it. The knicks want cap space. the rockets need a pg and a big center and dont want t mac. the bulls dont want hinrich cuz of derrick rose. heres a perfect 3 way team trade that works for every team and improves every team. SHOW THIS TO EVERY ONE SO THIS CAN GET AROUND.

  • knicksbro

    Bro the trade sucks and it leaves the Knicks with no PG. Nobody wants to spread it around and we all agree that its a crappy trade so stop.

  • bmathews77

    I just don’t see that trade working. For one thing, we lose our only point guard and second, Duhon left Chicago because he wanted to be a starter not a second fiddle again.

    I just want to see Eddy Curry gone and I hope Houston and NY do make some kind of deal.

  • James

    Double-false. Just not a fan of otherwise serviceable blogs that start hitting the same tired notes again, and again, and again…I mean, the skepticism is BUILT INTO the original content already (in that Ariza obviously wasn’t swayed). It’s approaching a Berman-esque obsession.

  • charlie

    what if he wants his cake and eats it, too?

    try this year and see what happens?

    if i were him I would look to sign a long term deal in cleveland because that would guarantee him another max deal.

    if he blows out his knee, what then?

  • PatrickChewing33

    Reports from LBJ’s camp is that he never told T.Ariza that he was staying in Cleveland!

    This is becoming quite the soap opera.

  • PatrickChewing33

    Arghhhhhh!

  • Cammydog0123

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=msoduc

    I LISTENED TO EVERYONE COMPLAINING, DUHON WOULDNT FIT IN CHICAGO YOU’RE RIGHT. FINE I CAME UP WITH A NEW TRADE. A 4 WAY DEAL TRADE HAVING THE KNICKS BLAZERS ROCKETS AND BULLS. THE BULLS DEAL HINRICH AND THE KNICKS GET MONEY HELP THE BLAZERS GET DAVID LEE AND THE ROCKETS GET HINRICH AND A BIG MAN IN CURRY. CHECK THIS OUT.

  • adam

    that sounds like the problem. you do it for the views/comments. and it works. but it’s not the story.

  • http://theKnicksBlog.com Tommy Dee

    Cammy- your trades are bordering on trolling…you get one more chance.

  • J-Knick

    This story is pathetic. I dont care what James said to Ariza if or when he called him, or how convincing he sounded.

    Cant we just wait to see if Lebron signs or not an extension and stop torturing ourselves trying to find meaning to ridiculous news ?

  • Cammydog0123

    TOMMY DEE…

    One more chance what. EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS IS NOT A GREAT TRADE FOR EVERY TEAM ALL AROUND. knicks get rid of money the bulls dump a player they dont want the blazers get david lee and the rockets get a good pg and a potentially a good center in Curry. I know more than all these mafuckas on this website.

  • EQ1217

    Check this out, LeBron is attending a media mogul convention with James Dolan himself.

    Is this a good enough reason to believe LeBron wants to be in the media capital of the world?

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/07072009/business/lebron_james_will_court_media_moguls_178004.htm