Comments on: What Are Teams Waiting For? http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/ The One-Stop Shop for Hopeful Knick Fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Arputter http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51426 Arputter Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:24:16 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51426 If Jannero Pargo, who is a better player than nate can get only that much money, why would a team give up a first round pick for the right to pay him more than that? All Nate does is score and Pargo is better at that than him. No one is interested in Nate because he's not good. Ariza is 24, probably the best young, perimeter defender in the league, who played a huge role on the championship team and he only got the midlevel. Yet, somehow David Lee and Nate Robinson, who have never won more than 33 games in a season, are hot commodities and team are lining up to give up draft picks for the right to overpay them? Come on. On a different note. I'm worried that with something like 10 expiring contracts on the team next season that it could be a mess. Last year was great because everyone bought in and played together. Will they do the same when they're all looking for that next contract? If Jannero Pargo, who is a better player than nate can get only that much money, why would a team give up a first round pick for the right to pay him more than that? All Nate does is score and Pargo is better at that than him. No one is interested in Nate because he’s not good. Ariza is 24, probably the best young, perimeter defender in the league, who played a huge role on the championship team and he only got the midlevel. Yet, somehow David Lee and Nate Robinson, who have never won more than 33 games in a season, are hot commodities and team are lining up to give up draft picks for the right to overpay them? Come on. On a different note. I’m worried that with something like 10 expiring contracts on the team next season that it could be a mess. Last year was great because everyone bought in and played together. Will they do the same when they’re all looking for that next contract?

]]> By: Tommy Dee http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51308 Tommy Dee Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:07:01 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51308 hence why they are hanging,,, hence why they are hanging,,,

]]> By: knicksbro http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51244 knicksbro Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:33:54 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51244 No chance. That's not fair at all. No chance. That’s not fair at all.

]]> By: Its The Kid http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51237 Its The Kid Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:14:59 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51237 Nate and Lee have the same resume... Being solid players on a losing team for years... Nate was up for the Sixth Man Award... David Lee leads league in double doubles... Between them there are Slam Dunk Championships and a Rookie Sophomore game MVP... Personal accolades and no team success, at all... Same boat... Nate and Lee have the same resume… Being solid players on a losing team for years… Nate was up for the Sixth Man Award… David Lee leads league in double doubles… Between them there are Slam Dunk Championships and a Rookie Sophomore game MVP…

Personal accolades and no team success, at all…

Same boat…

]]> By: Bruno http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51226 Bruno Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:55:46 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51226 <i>in the end, other teams understand that we have all the leverage, and that unless they are really willing to cough up the dough for him, which at this time nobody is, we are going to match, and nobody wants to throw away those 7 days.</i> +1 in the end, other teams understand that we have all the leverage, and that unless they are really willing to cough up the dough for him, which at this time nobody is, we are going to match, and nobody wants to throw away those 7 days.

+1

]]> By: Bruno http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51224 Bruno Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:53:45 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51224 S&T they sign Bosh and trade for Lee. S&T they sign Bosh and trade for Lee.

]]> By: Bruno http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51223 Bruno Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:52:49 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51223 I agree. Nate for the QO isn't bad at all, worry about him next year. Lee at $5-8m is perfect. <b>IF</b> need be, he's tradeable next year at that price. Sign Player A (Wade) S&T Lee for Player B (Bosh) We know DW told Colangelo he wants Bosh, and I really think Lee's a better fit in Toronto between Bargnani and Hedo. Although I don't expect it, I wouldn't be surprised if Lee for Bosh happens this year. I agree. Nate for the QO isn’t bad at all, worry about him next year. Lee at $5-8m is perfect.
IF need be, he’s tradeable next year at that price.
Sign Player A (Wade)
S&T Lee for Player B (Bosh)

We know DW told Colangelo he wants Bosh, and I really think Lee’s a better fit in Toronto between Bargnani and Hedo. Although I don’t expect it, I wouldn’t be surprised if Lee for Bosh happens this year.

]]> By: Jeff Cykiert http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51222 Jeff Cykiert Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:48:06 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51222 I have hated on nate consistently in this forum, but the truth is, he is capable of putting up 30 points over and over again on consecutive nights, and a player like that usually doesn't garner less than the MLE, but his small size and clear lack of effort on defense (his inability to get around screens is nothing more than a complete indifference to the task; watching him, you can see he just doesn't think defense means anything) are causing him to be MUCH cheaper than a typical player of his production would be. for 4.5 mil (or something like that) a player who with a little maturity and consistency could be averaging 23-6-5-2.5 is a great deal, even if he isn't in your long term plans. You match any offer that gets made because worst case scenario is teams will be lining up to trade for him come the deadline, and we might be able to get a new young piece for the future. in the end, other teams understand that we have all the leverage, and that unless they are really willing to cough up the dough for him, which at this time nobody is, we are going to match, and nobody wants to throw away those 7 days. I expect both nate and lee to be on the floor come opening night, even if one or both is playing under the QO. I have hated on nate consistently in this forum, but the truth is, he is capable of putting up 30 points over and over again on consecutive nights, and a player like that usually doesn’t garner less than the MLE, but his small size and clear lack of effort on defense (his inability to get around screens is nothing more than a complete indifference to the task; watching him, you can see he just doesn’t think defense means anything) are causing him to be MUCH cheaper than a typical player of his production would be. for 4.5 mil (or something like that) a player who with a little maturity and consistency could be averaging 23-6-5-2.5 is a great deal, even if he isn’t in your long term plans. You match any offer that gets made because worst case scenario is teams will be lining up to trade for him come the deadline, and we might be able to get a new young piece for the future.

in the end, other teams understand that we have all the leverage, and that unless they are really willing to cough up the dough for him, which at this time nobody is, we are going to match, and nobody wants to throw away those 7 days.

I expect both nate and lee to be on the floor come opening night, even if one or both is playing under the QO.

]]> By: Jeff Cykiert http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51219 Jeff Cykiert Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:42:54 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51219 I think the reason no one has offered him a contract is because they know we will match it unless they offer something over 5 mil, which they just won't do. DW is in no rush to let Nate OR Lee walk, and i have a feeling he will match any offer for either of them (assuming the offers will be small given the current climate). Even if he plans on trading nate to a playoff team before the deadline, I still see him matching any smallish offer, and i think the rest of the league knows that. Either way, whatever donnie is doing, it is working because we are going to be getting the cheapest possible option; much cheaper than we expected. What if lee becomes our MLE? I think the reason no one has offered him a contract is because they know we will match it unless they offer something over 5 mil, which they just won’t do. DW is in no rush to let Nate OR Lee walk, and i have a feeling he will match any offer for either of them (assuming the offers will be small given the current climate). Even if he plans on trading nate to a playoff team before the deadline, I still see him matching any smallish offer, and i think the rest of the league knows that. Either way, whatever donnie is doing, it is working because we are going to be getting the cheapest possible option; much cheaper than we expected. What if lee becomes our MLE?

]]> By: Tommy Dee http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/07/09/what-are-teams-waiting-for/#comment-51218 Tommy Dee Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:41:53 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=8405#comment-51218 It's a simple one with Nate. Big personality with no resume.... It’s a simple one with Nate. Big personality with no resume….

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