ESPN: Wolves Head To Spain

Only one team has endorsement possibilities required to get this guy out of Spain. Make it so Donnie.

I hope he plays for the T’Wolves next season, so everyone can see how overrated he is…

yea seriously…maybe hes not as bad as Jennings said. But I bet part of what he said was true…

you guys are sooooooo wrong about rubio.first of all the kid is still a teenager,and by the time he is 24 years old hes gonna be one of the best you ever saw

This is Ricky Rubio in the olympics at 17 years old on the second best team in the world with an injured wrist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5mpST596qU

Doesn’t look overrated to me. Those are passes the 4th and 5th best point guards in the NBA can’t make.

have you ever seen him play a game?

I agree, Bob. To be young and make it big in Spain, and on top of that lead your national country in the Olympics to a final not only takes great skill and talent, but also character, that’s fundamental for any player in any sport. I mean, we’re talking about the most important sports championship in the world. Just hear what the whole USA team had to say about him, they loved him. The only thing that bites me is his age (despite his signs of clear maturity).
Although I personally think that the chances of him landing in NY are more than difficult, if not unlikely, let’s actually say he does make it; here’s my problem: he’s supposed to lead a team that wants to be contending for a title in 2010 with only 19? The kid might turn out to be a beast and has maturity, but the NBA is a whole different deal -specially in pace and athleticism-. So if THE PLAN works and LBJ gets here, can Rubio be really up to that particular challenge? That’s something to think about, besides the fact that there’s still chance (though very small IMO) that the kid turns out to be an NBA bust.

I couldn’t agree more

Even if you can get Ricky Rubio, we will almost certainly lose Wilson Chandler. Sometimes I feel like people on this site overlook Wilson. IMO Wilson Chandler has the potential to be an all-star in this league and he should not be traded under any circumstances. If you want a stud point guard then go out, pay 4 million and get Ramon Sessions. Wilson Chandler and Ramon Sessions is much greater IMO than just Ricky Rubio. Don’t get me wrong, I love Ricky Rubio and think he has all the talent in the world but there is a chance he will be a bust, even though I highly doubt it. So, my point I am trying to make is that I would rather have two sure things in Wilson Chandler and Ramon Sessions than Ricky Rubio. Sign Sessions and keep Wilson, keep DLee, and keep Nate!

Even if you can get Ricky Rubio, we will almost certainly lose Wilson Chandler. Sometimes I feel like people on this site overlook Wilson. IMO Wilson Chandler has the potential to be an all-star in this league and he should not be traded under any circumstances. If you want a stud point guard then go out, pay 4 million and get Ramon Sessions. Wilson Chandler and Ramon Sessions is much greater IMO than just Ricky Rubio. Don’t get me wrong, I love Ricky Rubio and think he has all the talent in the world but there is a chance he will be a bust, even though I highly doubt it. So, my point I am trying to make is that I would rather have two sure things in Wilson Chandler and Ramon Sessions than Ricky Rubio. Sign Sessions and keep Wilson, keep DLee, and keep Nate the Great.

jay ,theres a chance that every nba prospect turns out to be a bust,but as a fan id like to take that chance on rubio.if donnie had made that trade with the wizards,rubio would be in the nba right now.tell me you wouldnt trade chandler and jordan hill for shot at this guy.christ,everyones genius,donnie walsh,would have taken rubio if he had the 2nd pick in the whole draft and you guys wouldnt dare disagree with” hoops god “walsh lol

you (and most here)seem to overate wilson chandler.talk about sure things,you seem to forget that ramon sessions is not on the knicks.

dont get me wrong ,i would love to sign ramon sessions.hes a young point guard which is what the knicks need,but i would take rubio over sessions any day of the week .this guy has really got something special,something you cant teach.and that is tremendous court vision and the ability to see the pass happening before he even makes it.the last guy to have that was magic johnson (IMO)

the problem is unless you watched rubio in spain, most of this analysis comes from scouting reports and hype. He also doesn’t defend, is small, can’t shoot, and is soft. I’d love Rubio on this team, no question, BUT I’m not necessarily willing to give away a 22 year old who I know at worse is going to give me 14 and 5 and exceptional defense.

Chandler is a sure thing. Even if he doesn’t reach his FULL potential, he can be an 18 ppg guy. I don’t understand how people say he’s overrated when they declare Rubio Magic Johnson without ever seeing him play. Chandler averaged 14 ppg at 22. You’re telling me he won’t be able to increase that scoring total by 4 to 6 points during the rest of his career, if not during the upcoming season? He’ll always be able to defend.

Now, Bob, I understand the Knicks need a point guard, but Rubio has never played in the NBA and Sessions put up 15 and 8 as a starter in a half court system in this league. He’s also only 23 and not a prima donna

Bob,

It isn’t about wheter you would rather have sessions or rubio. its wheter you would rather have sessions and chandler or just rubio because it will cost wilson chandler and more to get ricky and imo i would much rather have wilson and sessions.

Bob, I’d also like to see him in NY (before I was just pointing the possible downsides, which as you said -and rightly so-, it’s in every young player), but on the other hand I think Chandler is a good player and he can still give a whole lot more, IMO. So I’m kind of at a crossroads on this topic, because I’d love to se Rubio is MSG, but I wouldn’t want to give Chandler.
Rubio’s hypothetical arrival may just sulve this team’s PG problems, but would leave the 2 just for Hughes and maybe Gallo? Let’s say Chandler is involved in a trade, who’d you play at the 2? For me, Will can play the 2 and the 3.
What do you think?

“If it is his priority to go to the NBA, why doesn’t he just do it? I mean, the buyout is not the hold up here, it’s Rubio’s willingness to sign a deal and commit to living and playing in Minnesota for the foreseeable future, is it not?
I’m not blaming to kid for his reluctancy, but the ball is pretty much in his hands if he wants it to be…”

I guess if your saying just pay 5 million to an 18 year so he can play on an unproven team with a new coach who has never been a head coach and an unproven GM , and fight for the starting spot , than, yea, your right.

I wouldn’t do it. He has plenty of time to head over to the USA. He is 18 !! Heck he can wait 4 years …

The problem has been and will always be the buyout. Minny doesn’t have enough money for it NOT to cost Ricky . Period. The deal with Barcelona is rumored to have a reasonable buyout option in 2011. Its a no brainer however the deal is a 6 year deal. I think the Timberwolves are there to have a good look at the contract while still trying to figure out a way to get him to Minny now. Id say that its all in the hands of DKV.

If I’m DKV and have financial problems like they do , I take the Barcelona deal while the kid is healthy and while the money is on the table.

Rubio/Sessions…… Heck… At this point either would be welcomed.

Ive been on The Rubio bandwagon since the Olympics so I am not getting off now but I dont see him becoming a Knick. Maybe , just maybe…. if Kahn see’s that all his options are gone and he knows he can pull a deal that is in the wings waiting with DW, 0.01% chance he ends up in Manhattan.

I aint holding my breathe on that one tho

MYLES,you dont know what you are talking about!rubio was named DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR in the spanish league last year,also he is not small,hes 6’5″! .plus hes just a teenager,(like yourself)

dino,i for one dont think that wison chandler is ever gonna be more than an average player in the NBA, so i dont care if we lose him .as for sessions,im all for signing him,but hes not ours to lose

that highlight reel is pretty boss…

although if i were ever to compile a youtube series of clips, i think mama say knock you out by LL would be my soundtrack of choice (dont call it a comeback)

thoughts?

Ricky Rubio is extremely talented but the Olympics are not a great measuring stick in my opinion, I mean what about Mills’ performance? What about Carlos Arroyo? Spain was the the most talented team in the tournament by far – behind the United States – I mean Bill Evans has always been better with Miles Davis and John Coltrane. I’ve seen Rubio play (with Joventut) once and I was not “impressed”. But he’d more enticing than Wilson Chandler who plays the same position as Gallinari and LeBron.

Gallo’s resume in Italy was more impressive than Rubio’s.

well mucha im just replying to myles comments about his defense.you cant make a comment like “he plays no defense,hes small and hes soft whenhe was his leagues defensive player of the year in 2009,led that same league in steals twice,once in 2007 and once in 2009,and when you have a point guard who is 6’5′ how can you say hes small?when was the last time we had a point who was 6’5? then hes got the nerve to tell me “ive never seen him play? hes making this shit up as he goes along.! anyone who wouldnt give up chandler for just a shot at rubio doesnt want to improve the KNICKS.chandler will never be a game changer,this is why you get guys like rubio.in the hope that they will be that special player that only comes along ever 15 to 20 years.and anyone who has ever seen his play,knows he got that potential

also thaty comment about gallos resume being better .gallo is 3 years older than rubio

where did you hear rubio doesnt defend and is soft?

he had over 2 steals a game in like 25 minutes of play. he is a demon in the passing lanes

Chandler is NOT a sure thing. that has to be a joke. Chandler scored those 14 on an extraordinary number of chances in over 33 minutes of PT a game. He was highly inefficient and made poor decisions with the ball. There is no guarantee that Chandler will ever a consistent go to guy a the end of games.

All due respect. It comes down to an evaluation of what Rubio will become and what Chandler/Sessions will become. If you think Rubio is a transcending player you do it. If you think Chandler is completely replaceable (will Gallo get more of those 33 minutes at the 3 this year?) then you do it.

Well I was not talking about your comments bob.

And I agree with you man, I’d trade a hundred Wilson Chandlers for Mickey Rubio. But I’m in wait-and-see mode, obviously I never jumped on the Rubio bandwagon – he’s overhyped.

Gallinari was not older than his peers when he got drafted, Rubio is just one year younger than his class (like Holiday) which means that Gallo’s two years older. So what?

DANILO GALLINARI :
2007-2008 Euroleague : 14.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.7 assists.
2007-2008 Italian League : 17.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.3 apg.

And he was the go-to-guy.

RICKY RUBIO :
2008-2009 Euroleague : 2.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.8 apg (injuried though).
2008-2009 ACB : 10 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 6.1 apg.

I mean Gallo’s resume is clearly better, and he was just one year older than Rubio when they respectively got drafted.

Co-sign.

Continue to underrate Chandler. Okay.

Rubio’s weaknesses via Draftexpress

Efficiency
- Mid-range game
- Turnover prone
- Ability to fight through screens
- Can NBA rookie scale compete financially w/other options?
- Ability to finish around basket
- Average athleticism
- Average explosiveness
- Plays below the rim
- Strength
- Ability to shoot off the dribble
- Low shooting percentages
- Slow release

A lot of those things you guys attributed to Chandler. Sure, Chandler isn’t a sure thing, but he’s 22 years old and he had some monster games. Talk about consistency biggy, Rubio was very inconsistent at times. On top of the fact that most people on this site (including myself) have seen him play in anything more than highlights.

Also, name me one European point guard that’s had success in the NBA…..

Ever heard of Tony Parker ?

also where did you get that Sessions is an “exceptionnal defender ” ???

also Rubio is 6’4. He’s also 180 pounds. I doubt he’ll be able to guard Chauncey Billups or Deron Williams. Steals don’t indicate defense, and can the guy play an NBA game before he gets compared to Magic Johnson. please..

Yeah, I wasn’t expecting an answer. Tony Parker was picked 28th overall. You can maybe name me 3 point guard that have had success. and if you’re talking to me I never said sessions was an exceptional defender, I was talking about Wilson Chandler.

sorry, re-read and saw you were speaking of Chandler

anyway, we could offer Lee for Rubio and that would be a fair deal. like S&T Lee for Brian Cardinal + rights to Rubio.

how do you know what chandler will be?

18, 5, a block, and a steal on 48% fg shooting and 43% shooting from 3 during the last month of the season. 31 and 9 on Kevin Garnett. Even if Chandler doesn’t drop 20 a game he’ll always be a game changer with his defense.

I want Rubio, I would love to take a chance. But I’m not sure I’m willing to just give up somebody who may not be a proven commodity but you know what you’re getting from that easily. He’s 22 years old, guys act like he’s in his prime. it’s crazy. straight up, sure I’d do it. But no way Minny would do that, meaning we’d have to add on to that deal to sweeten the pot.

I’m iffy on that.

where does it say lousy at defense?

TP is a proof you can be a european PG and be successful in the NBA. I dont need 50 other examples to make your argument hollow.

does a “defensive player of the year “indicate defense?

And nobody better not bring up Kobe he is unstoppable…

and nobody is comparing him to magic,its just that his passing,for a kid his age is ….well …you wouldnt take a chance on him cuz you dont want to lose chandler?.the only way to get players with extrodinary talent IS to take a chance.thats why the lakers have kobe and the cavs have lbj.these guys coulda been busts right out of high school.but sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes (DARKO) the bear eats you.but in chandler is aint like your giving away earl monroe.if donnie walsh knew rubio was still gonna be there at 5,he woulda made that trade with the wiz

it’s not a hollow argument . i can name Peja stojakovic but that doesnt mean serbian players have had consistent success. you named one player, from a different part of europe than Rubio. Who’s next, Jose Calderon? Tony Parker is a totally different type of player than Parker, didn’t have any of the hype, and was picked 21 spots later.

Via Nbadraft.net

Weakness: Just needs to mature more once he gets to the NBA. Needs to add more strength. He has trouble guarding bigger and stronger guards. Can improve his outside shooting. He doesn’t jump on his jumpshots, could get it blocked a lot in the nba.

There.

fair enough, i never said that it wasn’t because i didn’t want to give up chandy. i’d do chandler for rubio, but minnesota wouldn’t do that. ever. so therefore, the knicks would have to add more pieces. I don’t know about that.

Uh, the Cavs took Lebron with the 1st overall and there was no question about that pick. Kobe also went 13th so it wasn’t really a chance.

And if you’re going to use those 2 examples here are a few “chances’

Darko at 2 in 03.
Kwame at 1 in 01
Olowakandi at 1 in 99
Joe Smith at 1 in 95
SKitishvili at 5 in 02

Howd those turn out?

i think chandler is out of position at the 2,he doesnt have the handles,what im saying is hughs is only their real 2 anyways.as a matter of fact,guard is a real problem for the knicks.if nate doesnt sign and i dont think you can count on douglas yet,you hardly have any guards at all,(duhon,hughs) i know im missing someone,but you get my drift,which is why i think the knicks have to sign sessions(and it would be nice to get rudy from portland to play the 2)but i doubt that will happen

what do you mean no question about that pick?he hadnt played an nba game yet.its easy NOW,to say that,but taking anyone out of high school is a chance

in reality,beside GALLO,who can we afford not to lose?we could pretty much trade the rest of the teamand it wouldnt matter,theres not an all-star in the bunch!

do you guys realize that if nate doesnt come back we only have 3 real guards on the whole roster? its gonna create the same problems we had last year.i for one dont want to see duhon getting 40 minutes per game again

Also fellow Spaniard Jose Calderon.

You’re argument is that there have been other draft busts in history?

NBA general mangers think Rubio will be better than Chandler. And unfortunately I think you’ll see that proven by the fact that Minnesota wont trade us Rubio for Chandler.

uh, no. bob’s argument is that some chances have paid off, and my rebuttal is that some haven’t.

This one is for Myles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNiWsFHuDTA

“Now you’re mine” by Gangstarr. It made Quentin Richardson Darius Miles look cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcDiei8AfF4

Pretty sick. Forgot about that one. Wish they would play him at PF more.

that’s what I’m talking about Alvino!

My man also banged it on Okafor, Jermaine O’Neal, Luis Scola, and somebody on the Timberwolves.

That’s right, that’s exactly where I’m going. Everyone’s talking about how weak the point is, which it is. But what about the 2? That’s covered with Gallo and Chandler. So yeah, Sessions is a possibility, Rubio an even further one. Fernandez would be a great fit for the 2 and if somehow he can be included in a D Lee trade over here then we’d be talking about a whole different team. Besides, just the mere fact that Fernandez gets to NY is a whole new incentive for Rubio to come.
Personally, I think Nate will end up signing the QO and later packaged in a S&T somewhere, either with Lee or JJ. The question remains… when? He’s definitely a 2 in my book, but I don’t think he’s what the team needs for the future, but at the same time you can’t ignore that spark he brought when he came in.

wow,you have a man? i thought so.

never mind that……/what are the knicks gonna do bout having only 3 guards on the whole roster?(if nate dont come back)

The problem isn’t whether Rubio wants to play there…..its how much the buyout is. He doesnt want to play for free for 2 seasons….if he makes the same amount as the buyout he still has taxes and an agent to pay. I dont blame him.

Ben: you say that if Rubio wants to play in the NBA he should complete the “buy out” You didn’t tell us that he had or could get the 5M I believe he needs. How is going to pull this off. Until he does, it is senseless to talk about him being a Knick? What am I missing?

Well, I think everybody would agree that TP was a steal …

I tend to think that spanish pro basketball’s level is above NCAA’s and hence I dont understand why there’s fear that Rubio may be a bust … did anybody suggest that Derrick Rose could be a bust last year ??

At first I thought it was a possibility but I really can’t see Rubio being a Knick.
Supposedly the T’Wolves owner went to Spain as well, so it seems a trade would be unlikely.

Perhaps we should be discussing trading for Flynn instead?

I would not mind Flynn.

I gotta be honest, I am tired of hearing about Rubio. I think there is 0 chance that he is a Knick. Kahn is not trying to help out his old buddy DW, he is trying desperately to get this kid to come to Minny and save his reputation. I think our best chance for a decent PG in the next year or two is Sessions but it appears the door has been slammed on that idea.

i don’t know what to touch on first…BOB’S unjust hate for wilson or Everyone’s obsession w/ Rubio…RUBIO IS NOT COMING TO NY this idea is not only nearly imposible but its a waste of comment space!! Bob, why do you hate wilson so much?? Everyone is sooooo ready to crown Gallo the king of NY (including myself) but we have only seen a small sample of danilo…do we all forget that last was wilson’s 1st yr w/ real PT and he had a breakout yr!! Even though i think wilson has develop a KILLER INSTINCT and learn how to become a leader i think he’s gonna be a BEAST. This is gonna be basically his 2nd yr w/ real PT and he’s only gonna get better…i hope him and gallo figure out how to become a special tandem and sessions would be an incredible sweetner so i hope we get sessions…Nate is gonna sign the QO BOB cuz he basically has no other choice so quit this 3 guard conspiracy…AND QUIT THE RUBIO TALK ALREADY WE HAVE ABOUT THE SAME CHANCES OF RUBIO STARTING PG FOR US AS STARKS COMING BACK AND SUITING UP AT SG!!!

unecessary?

Moe- I agree, Wilson does need to show more of that fire that he showed in the Celtics game, where he posterized the Boston front-line. His potential is big and anyone denying that is a hater. Gallo is gonna be a stud, I am convinced of it. I may be a Kool-Aid drinker, but I truly believed that he looked like a young Peja Stojakovic last year in his abbreviated time. No fear on taking a big shot, and routinely knocking it down from 25-30 out.

I agree, Orange. Rubio’s chances of landing here are slim to none, though I think it would great to have him, but giving Chandler to make that possible might be a bad choice because of the year he had and the fact the if he trains hard to get up to speed after his injury he can certainly prove he has a lot more to give. I try no to overrate him, parts of his game are still raw, but he’s definitely got a lot to give. I definitely put more stock in Gallo, though.
The whole Sessions scenario still remains cloudy to me. All the talks of offers about to be made were palpable for some time and then everything went to nothing. Everyone says that rumours are always bogus and don’t amount to anything, but what nobody takes into account is the fact that in journalism, when there’s more than one source giving the same or slightly different rumor, there’s got to be something to it (maybe not the exact fact, but, for example, that DW had an offer ready and that talks were a lot stronger than everyone thought).
So to start making links out of the blue of Rubio with NY seems really out there for me. Don’t get me wrong, to have either him or Flynn would be more than welcome, but if Kahn is going through all this trouble just to take him to Minny, I don’t see why he would have a trade planned out with Donnie. At the pace things are going, I think camp will start and the Knicks still won’t have a new PG and will give minutes to Douglas.
With Nate… he’ll probably resign and I think DW wants to have him for later trade possibilities to package him with JJ, for example.

i am a KNICKS fan first,although i do not think that WILSON CHANDLER is gonna be any more than a slightly above average swing-man,and nothing more,i surely dont hate the man for ive never met him.but however,i am entitled to my opinion on all knickerbocker matters ,being i am on this blog.there are pleanty of people here who agree with my assesment of CHANDLER,doesnt mean everyone hates him.is HATER the new word of the era moe?also its no conspiracy,its the the truth about nate ,ok ,lets say nate comes back ….we still have only 4 guards on the roster and only one of those is a true point.what is it about the truth thnat scares you?it is what it is christ i hope if we keep wilson ,that he scores 40 pts a game.but at any rate,we are gonna need more guards!why would you even mention the word conspiracy?i also think we should sign sessions,even if its just to mature with the other young guys on this team.i never said that rubio was comming here,its just that someone at the top said that rubio was way overated,and i just disagreed!

Jay- Great points. I never considered the Nate angle with DW trying to package him with JJ, any cap relief at this point would be huge. I really hope the cap doesn’t shrink next year, we need all the room for Lebron and the league more specifically Commisioner Stern knows that. Wil Chandler is raw, but I still see him as a big contributor in the Shawn Marion role.

I think Wil can give more this season, and it looks like Coach D is calling him to step up, let’s hope he’s got it.
Yeah, the cap will definitely be an issue. The numbers they first put out there sort of bummed everyone out, but I’ve read around that the outcome might not be so negative after all. If that drop isn’t as tough as they first pointed out, and with analyst saying that the economy will -thank god for all of us- get better, and if DW can get rid of JJ and Curry’s contract off the books, we’ll definitely be seeing a whole different picture for THE PLAN. That’s why I think Nate will be sticking around, at least till the deadline.
As for Lee, he can actually serve the same purpose as Nate, but with all the talks of a possible S&T with Portland throughout all this time… I think there’s definitely substance there, and it’s up to DW to take the offer or refuse it.
Let’s not forget that Mobley’s contract’s still out there and can be really useful if used the right way, but we shouldn’t also forget that once the season starts, it’ll lose its value, so it’s gotta be used soon and smartly.

BOB, every post you write you completely write off wilson…you’re always willing to trade him and/or fail to admit his skills…Last yewr was his first real year w/ playing time and he had a breakthrough yr…wilson is gonna be a NYK icon mark my words (a great player that the league refuses to recignize as such…Starks, Mason, Oak Tree, A. Houston, C. Ward) Next year he will be better ajusted to his role as a building block to the squad…and like i said Nate is coming back and DW is not done dealing so we’ll get some guards, Sessions & Co. you’ll see… BOB i know we’ve done a lot of losing but for God sakes man BEING A TRUE KNICK FAN IS AN HONOR MY MAN I’M SURE EVERYONE IN THIS POST AGREES AND WE’RE IN GOOD HANDS NOW W/ DW & MIKE D SO LETS ENJOY THIS TIME AND GET BEHIND THIS TEAM 100%…

i agree with almost everything you say/.first of all i was there in 1969 when they won their first championship(14 years old) i am a true knicks fan,thats why im so hard on them.we will see about WILSON CHANDLER,like i said everyone is entitled to their opinion.but as a true fan ,since i do pay hundreds of dollars a year for tix n such i have the absolute right to critisize DONNIE WALSH OR MIKE D’ANTONI whenever i feel it warrented.being a child of the 60′s,i never just hand over the reigns to anything without asking questions.my motto is ‘QUESTION ALL AUTHORITY”(SHIT,WALSH IS AN ADULT,HE CAN TAKE IT)people say we are in good hands ,but the proof is in the pudding….he only has 3 weeks before camp to get some of these guards we desperatly need…like i said before …i dont want to see CHRIS DUHON playing 40 minutes per game again with no back-up……GO KNICKS!

BOB, for once i completely agree w/ you, as a fan and payin customer u have every right to criticize but my man We survived Zeke & Isiah BOB, and now we got DW & Mike D and you gotta think they are better captains of the ship…enjoy the new era and be positive…i agree that its time DW gets to work and finalizes the roster for TC but BOB in this game of chicken he’s playin w/ DLEE NATE &SESSIONS, DW is drivin a monster truck and they are drivin a yaris so just be cool…I completely agree about Duhon, he can’t play 40+ mins, that would be horiffic. ENJOY the knicks season and trust me when the seasom gets under way and we hit a rough patch I’LL BE BITCHIN W/ THE BEST OF ‘EM

I hear ya, Bob. The point is definitely the biggest matter to solve at this stage. Of course, the pace of this offseason definitely has got us all on edge, and makes it a whole lot easier to criticize, so I fully understand where you’re coming from.
But like you yourself mentioned earlier, if Wil is what has to go for the hipothetical Rubio deal to go through, you’d give the 2 straight up to Hughes? I think JJ and him are definitely the weakest links in the Knicks chain right now, not only because of their contracts, but because they’re skills are definitely not worth that kind of money.
Sessions could put an end to this whole issue, but everything points toward the fact that DW won’t pull that trigger unless JJ is moved, which everyday seems further away. So although Donnie is known for puling trades out of nowhere, you gotta wonder when and where is the JJ deal gonna happen? Another way that can maybe solve the point and the 2 dilemma is pulling the strings on a S&T with Lee and Portland, which seems to be the talk of the moment. Three weeks is a long time, and the deadline is even further away. So yeah, kicking back and being patient sucks, it’s true, I know. As fans we’ve been through a lot of crap this past 8 years, and we are entitled to some peace and happiness. I think DW knows all that’s at stake at this point, and with his experience definitely knows the presures o his job, so let’s hope he comes through in the best way possible, for him, the team, and the fan’s sake.

Chandler is not even a 2, and athletic swing men who don’t particularly excel at any one facet of the game are a dime a dozen.

Rubio is the purest PG in the draft, the youngest player in the draft, and has some of the best court vision and passing skills that we have seen in the draft for a while.

You take a chance on a player like that to be your PG of the future, and a possible superstar. Chandler ‘future’ is just a slightly improved version of his current self. Nothing that important.