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So who’s fault is that? Gallo for not being aggressive? The other Knicks freezing him out? Mike D not demanding the ball go to Gallo?
All of the above.
And to add to that, he doesn’t have his legs late in the game. He and Chandler are coming off surgery. From experience, re-hab is different from normal strehgth and speed training. Both of those guys may not be in form until later in the season. Gallo and Chandler would be better, especially late in the game, getting the ball on the move so their momentum would give them some leg energy. Gallo is shooting with his arms late in the game.
Further, Gallo has obviously been ordered to stay glued to the thre point arc in the corner. One of the other forums noted the the live mic segment picked up Gallo asking Coach if he should move in, and Coach ordered him to stay outside. It is a long season. I’m sure D’Antoni is trying to keep him healthy this year.
That is not to say that I’m at all impressed with his offense. Coach is not adapting his game plan to his players skill stes.
I’m not impessed with D’Antoni’s offense, I meant to say. Gallo is doing great as he is essentially a rookie, regardless of his playing time in Europe.
jeening going for 60 pts damm
jennings
jennings the first rookie since iverson to score 50 or more in a game…
if i remembered correct
u can research it your yourself
Jennings scores 55 while Jordan Hill goes 5 for 5 … can things get any more depressing for Knicks fan?
Jesus Christ
Who cares about Gallo OR the Knicks Rookie Report
…. It’s official, Walsh BLEW this year’s draft BIG TIME! Why???
Brandon Jennings just broke Kareem’s ROOKIE scoring record with 55 points … oh, and Bucks beat the same Warriors who scorched us last nite!
PS, the 55 also surpassed Kareem’s highest point total EVER as a Buck !
Looking forward to Du-NON starting next week as our PG …..
walsh has blown 2 drafts in his to drafts
let’s see if 2010 is going to blow up in his face also
Agreed. Walsh had been a disaster from day 1. From hiring D’Antoni to drafting Hill and not Jennings. He said he didn’t have a feel for Jennings’ game. That’s why you pay people top dollar to scout talent. Saying he didn’t know Jennings’ game is unacceptable. Walsh is a putrid GM.
BTW, Jennings needed only 3 quarters to score his double nickel.
i feel you tommy… i was barkin the same thing on the p&t game thread… WTF MANG!!!!
for 1 and a half quarters in the second half there was no pick and roll when duhon was not on the floor… n8 was lost… and i cut TD slack cuz he is a rookie… but it isnt like TD doesnt look for people out there… so our pg dont look for gallo enough. Harrington looks for nobody, lee never gets doubled, hughes hardly played. chandler doesnt get doubled am i missing somebody?
it is the inability of our leading scorer’s to set anyone up. I agree the AL works as hard as anyone but we won’t win with him being the number 1 option. It is obvious to me and everyone else that gallo needs to be the number 1 option for this team. His ability to see the floor is what seperates him from the other forwards on this team.
im tired of watchin al try and take over and i know im not alone there. i know d’antoni’s offense doesn’t predicate itself on getting the ball to one player but if certain guys can’t get into the concept of ball movement and motion within the offensive set they need to sit.
n8 looks like he spent his time off playing xbox and eatin take out. this team needs a pure pg badly and the fact that walsh whiffed this year in one of the deepest pg drafts ever, is disappointing.
Walsh better have a coup of a trade coming for this team or i just dont see how this system is going to work here… i really dont.
b4 i exit the blog i gotta say this
alot of teams don’t look at talent
they look at if he got arrested
he’s to slim etc
u get what i’m saying
enjoy guys the knicks could of been set for a longtime with bj3..
i have to admit,i wasnt very high on the knicks taking jennings,but i’m a friggn bartender,Donnie Walsh gets paid millionsto figure out this stuff(whos good,who can i get in a trade etc )he shoulda known better.Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni took over one of the lousiest basketball teams in the nba,AND MADE IT WORSE in just 2 years.this team is so pathetic,even with lebron james on this team we wouldnt make the playoffs.WAKE ME UP IN 2018
Im soo sick of this.
J Hill was the smarter pick.
I hope so. It’s just… 55. Man………
yea your rite
i’ll say he’s good when he drops 80.lol
YOU CANT POSSIBLY REALLY THINK THAT
That’s all I’m saying Bob… There are way more reasons why the Knicks needed Jennings and not Hill… Its not about Hill being a bum or a bust… Even if he ends up being good, we dropped the ball… Its about a team not maximizing an opportunity… A team missing out on a potential star… I mean, a real star not a fabricated one… You think Lebron wouldnt be estatic to play on a team with a young boy like that… New York needed Jennings… The kid is exciting…
And I dare anyone to say something stupid like “He only had a career game against the Warriors.” Because that same team kicked our asses… We could have used an extra 50points last night…
“J Hill was the smarter pick.”
Sure… we only have some 560 forwards on this team and we desperately need a real PG, but Hill was the smart choice.
Even if Hill turns out to be a good player, because of the things said above, it was a dumb move.
the reason they didn’t draft him becuz he is from cpt
probably blood or crip
they probably also tried to get some arrest records.
that’s what they probably looked at
i’m being serious
very very sad for this knicks franchise an there loyal fans.
but we got duhon danno boy’s favorite p.g
Everyone needs to stop complaining. EVERY analyst said Walsh made the right pick by taking Hill because jordan was the best player available. Also, it takes big men a lot longer to develop, so you cant judge this pick until hill develops. i understand this team needed a pg so it is extremley frustrating and im not trying to stick up for donnie because this team desperately needs someone who is willing to take risks and donnie is a little too conservative, but let’s be realistic, not many people knew that jennings would be this good. in the long run, a good big man is harder to come by then a good pg so this pick could still work out if hill pans out like i think he will. were also losing darko, lee, al so well need a pf/c next year. im not sure who donnie thinks will be our pg of the future though………. i dont think it can be douglas, he is more of a nate robinson type player imo.
I just have to asume/wonder if DW had/thougt he had a deal that just didn’t happen.Maybe he has a plan, but doesn’t want to blow it by revealing it. Look at the reaction to GS taking Steph Curry when the Knicks openly wanted him. .Maybe he had a dealwith the t-wolves and his old protege screwed him.
Have to wonder if the Knicks had taken Rubio or Curry if the second guessers would be panning them and crying for Jennings.
Of course, with the Knick’s luck, if they took Jennings, he would have broken his leg or something in the first game. Then everybody would be complaining that the Knicks were stupid to draft somebody so small and fragile as Jennings.
Drafts are always somewhat of a crapshoot, and too many Knicks fans try to show their savy by being cynical with the woulda/coulda/shouldas. Not to say that there is nothing to be cynical about here.:-), but what is done is done. Time to move on.
Just read the comments here so will paste the one I wrote in Chris’s section here as well since it refers to what you diagrammed on the chalk board:
Just watched the 8 minute clip that Tommy put up showing the pick and roll. Because of the time difference over here I’ll comment here and tie in what you wrote about Jennings. We ran two versions of of what you diagrammed. We started both sets in a 1-4 flat with the 4 and 5 men below the blocks and both the 2 and 3 in the corners. We let our 1 penetrate and when help stepped up he dished off to either the 4 or 5. We drew a lot of fouls from that set. We also floated the 2 and 3 men along the 3 point line as penetration occurred and sometimes kicked out for a 3 if the defense sagged in on us. Our 2nd set was more like what was shown. We got the 1 dribbling to a side and that keyed the big on that side stepping up and setting a high screen and then rolling on the switch. Our big down low gapped. His job was to get open and be available if his defender came across and helped. The 2 and 3 men did what they did in the previous play. Either play would work for Robinson or Douglas. They are both quick enough to take their man off the dribble. These two plays got us to the free throw line regularly. Penetration produces fouls. I’m at the disadvantage of not being able to watch the Knicks play over here. I see brief clips and that’s been it so far this season. We do get 5 live games a week but the Knicks haven’t been on yet. As for Jennings, hindsight is always 20/20. After all the crap with Marbury, the last thing that I would want is another player who was already waving red flags prior to the draft. Milwaukee rolled the dice and so far it has paid off. Good luck to them. However, I don’t see the criticism of Walsh’s two drafts as legitimate complaints. Gallinari is definitely someone who can play. You can’t forecast injuries. I’m happy with that pick. As for Hill, he is the best fit for this system that we have in our bigs. He’s just not ready yet. Douglas is a very solid player at both ends of the floor. And Walsh went after him by buying that pick from the Lakers. It always easy to be an armchair expert and sit back and say yeah but this guy is playing so much better and we could have had him. We have who we have. However, the five on the floor need to be giving complete effort and apparently that’s not happening at present. Hopefully this little break helps sort that problem out.
AT least someone sees what I see. You can’t blame Donnie for this and Milwaukee admittedly took a huge gamble because not many people knew too much about Jennings. They knew he had talent but there wasn’t much to go by.
While Jennings looks really good, don’t act like all you guys knew this was coming. How many of you guys saw more than a McDonalds all american game or a few you tube clips of Jennings? If you guys actually wanted Jennings at draft time( which im sure some did, but some of you didn’t) the only thing you were going off of was the hype of the kid out of High School. By all accounts his time in Europe was less than stellar. I guess there were 9 other teams that really screwed up huh?
Its so easy to make judgments after the draft and after games start.
What idiots for all those teams passing on Kobe, Dirk, Redd, Amare, etc.
Who knew?
And lets not forget that it is only 10 games in to a career.
And for all those who think Donnie screwed up last year too by not taking Lopez, how many wins exactly does NJ have? So don’t act like he is tearing it up. And Eric Gordon is Gallo only 7 inches shorter. there are a lot of guards who can score but there aren’t a lot of 6′10″ guys who can stoke it.
Here we go with this nonsense… yeah, but how many of us are paid million of dollars to scout basketball talent?
How many of us have a strong background in Italy?
Give me a break…
How many of us got blown off when we flew over to scout him?
Sacramento is talking to New Orleans about taking Okafor off their hands for an expiring contract. Who else believes CP3 and Stojakovic are coming to the Knicks for Curry or JJ and some rookie players. This will be the beginning of a new era. It could happen.
Gallinari has to be more assertive and MDA has to make sure the team knows he is one (or perhaps, THE) of the primary options. Gallo dutifully stands in the corner, waiting for Steve Nash to create and kick the ball out to him. Problem is we don’t have Steve Nash at PG, and Gallo is not going to get a pass back out to him from Harrington when he his trying to play superman in the post.
If any of you actually watched the Jennings’ performance, you know that he was the beneficiary of numerous high picks which Nelson and his team could not figure out, terrible D by GS (especially its guards(, and, of course, a jumper that was as unconsciously deadly as I have ever seen. He was also able to drive to the basket with impunity like the GS guards did to us the other day.
I don’t think he ever had a hand in his face when he was taking his J. I don’t think they ever doubled him to make him give up the ball. I don’t think they ever hammered him when he drove to the basket.
Those high picks are what allowed Hedo to have a good time in Orlando last year, and should help Gallo, who can drive to the basket to score, pass off, or, like Jennings was able to do yesterday, take a jumper.
I also believe that Douglas could do similar things (not 55- maybe a 30 pt game) to what Jennings did yesterday if confronted with the terrible D Jennings faced, the seemingly unsolvable high pick strategy, and a green light from MDA to shoot as soon as he was open.
The only way Gallinari becomes the man in crunch time, is for him to be playing in a lineup with Hill, Douglas, maybe Chandler, (Darko?) and any other player willing to defer to him as the option #1 or 1a scorer at the end of the game. He should also be more assertive in using the ball when he does have it, and not just be the good teammate who passes off for someone else and watches while someone else tries to get things done.
Not having a strong, confident point guard is obviously killing things. The way the Knix are going, 8-10 wins will be it. If they have a decent pt guard, maybe 18-20. But there is no strength up front. This season is a bust. Curry will be rusty and one-dimensional as ever, and he will break down as usual.
I am not going to dump on J-Hill. He showed us some brilliance in the 1st 7 mins of the 3rd quarter the other night, exactly what DW and others expected of him. D’A should play him and Gallo more and instruct Duhon, Douglas and N8 to feed them non-stop.
What happened to Lee at the top of the key running pick and rolls? Did Duhon leave his brain at home?
Where is this team’s brain???
European ball dropped his stock – if he would have been able to go out of high school he could have been top 5.
But, it’s all for nothing. He would have been exciting on the team, he’s clearly a great scorer, but when push comes to shove he’s a small point guard who can really score. Jamal Crawford dropped 50….twice.