Comments on: Players “All For” Bringing in Iverson http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/ The One-Stop Shop for Hopeful Knick Fans Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:30:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Campbana http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80129 Campbana Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:23:54 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80129 Everybody talking about how AI gonna affect future player develpoment. As sharp as you guys are cant you see that their development is already being retarded by the coach so what is the diffenence? Sounds like hate...... Everybody talking about how AI gonna affect future player develpoment. As sharp as you guys are cant you see that their development is already being retarded by the coach so what is the diffenence? Sounds like hate……

]]> By: Campbana http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80126 Campbana Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:19:36 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80126 Isnt Steve Nash? Isnt Steve Nash?

]]> By: Campbana http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80124 Campbana Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:17:20 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80124 Whatup Biggs. I see that your anti Alley I and all that and I can respect your position. Matter of factly most of the bloggers that are astute as yourself(i.e HAS, Bob, Blackwood) present good viewpoints for dudes like me. Do you think that Iverson is just a bad basketball player period? Mentioning his previous tenures in Memphis, Denver, and Detroit failures regarding leadership is blurry dont you think. On none of those teams was he brought in to provide leadership. Memphis wanted a bench player as did Detroit and Carmelo is the focal point in Denver or so I thought. I could be wrong. If so please correct me. Iversons best stint was when he was in Philly surrounded with limited talent which in some uncanny way best describes the current Knickeddrbocker squad. As for Alley I losing a step and being over the hill, I think he's one year younger than Steve Nash. Yes I know he dominates the ball and all that however with the Knicks roster I think all he can do is make us better. You have always entertained me with your outlook on the Knicks and what they shoudl do as far as personnel changes and what the lineup should be. Are you that engrossed in your own perception that it makes a future HOF absolete and come second to your own great philosophies concerning the Knicks? Never any disrespect Biggs. Players have trouble on different teams for different reasons, that doesnt neccesarily take away from their skill set(i.e Artest, R. Wallace,). All I'm saying is give AI a chance and he may prove to you that not only can he make points he can validate the bums around him. And please none of that retro what we coulda shoulda stuff because its irrelevant when the paper is talking about getting AI "now". Whatup Biggs. I see that your anti Alley I and all that and I can respect your position. Matter of factly most of the bloggers that are astute as yourself(i.e HAS, Bob, Blackwood) present good viewpoints for dudes like me. Do you think that Iverson is just a bad basketball player period? Mentioning his previous tenures in Memphis, Denver, and Detroit failures regarding leadership is blurry dont you think. On none of those teams was he brought in to provide leadership. Memphis wanted a bench player as did Detroit and Carmelo is the focal point in Denver or so I thought. I could be wrong. If so please correct me. Iversons best stint was when he was in Philly surrounded with limited talent which in some uncanny way best describes the current Knickeddrbocker squad. As for Alley I losing a step and being over the hill, I think he’s one year younger than Steve Nash. Yes I know he dominates the ball and all that however with the Knicks roster I think all he can do is make us better. You have always entertained me with your outlook on the Knicks and what they shoudl do as far as personnel changes and what the lineup should be. Are you that engrossed in your own perception that it makes a future HOF absolete and come second to your own great philosophies concerning the Knicks? Never any disrespect Biggs. Players have trouble on different teams for different reasons, that doesnt neccesarily take away from their skill set(i.e Artest, R. Wallace,). All I’m saying is give AI a chance and he may prove to you that not only can he make points he can validate the bums around him. And please none of that retro what we coulda shoulda stuff because its irrelevant when the paper is talking about getting AI “now”.

]]> By: NoVaCaInE http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80029 NoVaCaInE Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:37:33 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80029 This signing is to keep the Knicks relevant and distract the fans that have no clue until 2010. Also gives the media something else to write about. This signing is to keep the Knicks relevant and distract the fans that have no clue until 2010. Also gives the media something else to write about.

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80023 BiggieSmalls Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:21:33 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80023 Iverson is a ego maniacal narcissist. He still thinks he is still an all star and mvp caliber player. Iverson is a ego maniacal narcissist.

He still thinks he is still an all star and mvp caliber player.

]]> By: NoVaCaInE http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80022 NoVaCaInE Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:21:10 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80022 This signing is just to sell tickets and fill the empty seats. It's obvious management can care less about this season. It's all about 2010. For those that still believe Douglas will receive major minutes are in for a wake up call. He will be on the bench. Please but to bed starting him at the 1 or him being the future 1. He will be a 3rd guard his whole career. Walsh will look to move Nate and possibly pair him with Jeffries or Curry so Nate will play. We all saw this summer there are not many suitors for Lee so I don't expect Lee to be traded. As for Duhon being benched, should it happen? Of course, but will it? No. A.I. will be signed and he will start with Duhon in the back court. Gallo should come off the bench. IMO he will be better served as a reserve that can feast off of the opposing teams second unit. Especially with this slop we have as a roster. Starting 5 Duhon, A.I., Chandler, Lee, Curry. Bench Nate, Hughes, Al, Hill. Deep bench TD, Darko, Landry. This signing is just to sell tickets and fill the empty seats. It’s obvious management can care less about this season. It’s all about 2010. For those that still believe Douglas will receive major minutes are in for a wake up call. He will be on the bench. Please but to bed starting him at the 1 or him being the future 1. He will be a 3rd guard his whole career. Walsh will look to move Nate and possibly pair him with Jeffries or Curry so Nate will play. We all saw this summer there are not many suitors for Lee so I don’t expect Lee to be traded. As for Duhon being benched, should it happen? Of course, but will it? No. A.I. will be signed and he will start with Duhon in the back court. Gallo should come off the bench. IMO he will be better served as a reserve that can feast off of the opposing teams second unit. Especially with this slop we have as a roster. Starting 5 Duhon, A.I., Chandler, Lee, Curry. Bench Nate, Hughes, Al, Hill. Deep bench TD, Darko, Landry.

]]> By: pleasepleaseplease http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80013 pleasepleaseplease Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:50:23 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80013 "Does Iverson even agree to come into an admitted one year situation where he is a hired gun?" Either that or retirement. He had heavy problems finding a suitor in the summer and blew that arrangement after his first game. Iverson is really in no position to demand a long term deal. I tend to agree with you on the outcome though, because I'm not convinced the Knicks are really trying to trade the likes of Duhon or Harrington. So the Iverson signing would surely lead to less minutes and less shots for the rookies and Gallo. And we are going to see teh great "who can keep the ball in his hands longer" competition between A.I. and Al. I'm not excited. If there were some trade possibilities however I would much prefer to have Iverson hog the ball and take the shots than Harrington. If you are a selfish egofreak, at least be effective. “Does Iverson even agree to come into an admitted one year situation where he is a hired gun?”

Either that or retirement. He had heavy problems finding a suitor in the summer and blew that arrangement after his first game. Iverson is really in no position to demand a long term deal.

I tend to agree with you on the outcome though, because I’m not convinced the Knicks are really trying to trade the likes of Duhon or Harrington. So the Iverson signing would surely lead to less minutes and less shots for the rookies and Gallo. And we are going to see teh great “who can keep the ball in his hands longer” competition between A.I. and Al.

I’m not excited.

If there were some trade possibilities however I would much prefer to have Iverson hog the ball and take the shots than Harrington. If you are a selfish egofreak, at least be effective.

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80012 BiggieSmalls Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:48:02 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80012 They should slow it down and play Duhon Hughes Gallo Lee Curry with Duhon doing the pick and roll thing with Curry until someone bites and thinks Curry is an asset. Duhon's shooting should even out and maybe he can be shipped somewhere for a draft pick. Ill bury JJ and Hill with DNP-CD for now. Let Hill develop in practice and play in the second half should we deal Curry and or Lee. Bring Harrington and Chandler off the bench and let Darko take up 25 minutes for Defense. Toney D and Nate as the reserves for 20-25 mins .. 10 player rotation.. This is NOT a 12 win team.. things will even out. They should slow it down and play

Duhon
Hughes
Gallo
Lee
Curry

with Duhon doing the pick and roll thing with Curry until someone bites and thinks Curry is an asset. Duhon’s shooting should even out and maybe he can be shipped somewhere for a draft pick.

Ill bury JJ and Hill with DNP-CD for now. Let Hill develop in practice and play in the second half should we deal Curry and or Lee.

Bring Harrington and Chandler off the bench and let Darko take up 25 minutes for Defense.

Toney D and Nate as the reserves for 20-25 mins ..

10 player rotation..

This is NOT a 12 win team.. things will even out.

]]> By: HaS http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80010 HaS Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:40:58 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80010 Could it be worse than _avi_ being a leader? Geezus. Could it be worse than _avi_ being a leader? Geezus.

]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/11/19/players-all-for-bringing-in-iverson/#comment-80009 BiggieSmalls Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:40:45 +0000 http://www.theknicksblog.com/?p=10931#comment-80009 I can appreciate the sentiment that if Iverson makes ONE PEEP Donnie send him packing.. I understand the Knicks dont have a HUGE investment in this guy and can cut bait any time. But will Donnie really do that? How does it reflect on Donnie if this thing blows up in his and MDA's face after 25 games? What does Dolan think about bringing another circus into town at a time when they are trying to spin off MSG? Does Iverson even agree to come into an admitted one year situation where he is a hired gun? I just think this has no hope but to end badly. What is the upside? We win a few more games, Dolan sells his tickets and we screw the Jazz out of a LOCK top three pick? At the expense of diminshing Nate's value and possibly hindering the development of the young uns.? Good Luck with that. This reeks of desperation and is not how you should smell. I can appreciate the sentiment that if Iverson makes ONE PEEP Donnie send him packing.. I understand the Knicks dont have a HUGE investment in this guy and can cut bait any time.

But will Donnie really do that?

How does it reflect on Donnie if this thing blows up in his and MDA’s face after 25 games?

What does Dolan think about bringing another circus into town at a time when they are trying to spin off MSG?

Does Iverson even agree to come into an admitted one year situation where he is a hired gun?

I just think this has no hope but to end badly. What is the upside? We win a few more games, Dolan sells his tickets and we screw the Jazz out of a LOCK top three pick? At the expense of diminshing Nate’s value and possibly hindering the development of the young uns.?

Good Luck with that. This reeks of desperation and is not how you should smell.

]]>