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Two things:

First, it is absurd to say CDR and Al Harrington are a push right now. C’mon.

Second, if I remember correctly, last time we played the Nets, we got Brook into early foul trouble by guarding Eddy. Wasn’t that the Nets? If that is the case, we’re in trouble today, because Lopez will just devour Lee. Any chance we see Darko? I doubt it.

Where’s Malik Rose when you need him?

wheres gallo/?

that article was so bias…

Wilson Chandler is way better than C. Lee, thats not a ‘push’

and CDR is DEFINITELY not better than Al Harrington

I Agree chandler has been playing good for a few games and courtney had 1 gd game. And Harrington is Better than Cdr right now. And I thought Gallo was Better why isn’t he Starting?

Jeffries playing hard in the 1st.. Hope Portland is watching. Duhon stinking it up.

LoL at CDR having the edge on Al Harrington. In what world?

Douglas-Roberts better than Harrington?

Joke of the week.

The “Chandler has (…) the skills of a guard” comment gets the silver medal.

The writer doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

CDR looked pretty good there blocking Gallo – and actually playing in this game today.

Just not a good quarter – b/c no real defense – no interior defense.

CDR better then Al? Thats a joke rt? Gallo needs to do something with the ball. He can’t just pass it everytime he gets it and there is a defender on him. He’s not even dribbling or trying to create for himself.

Jefferies – terrible – terrible – terrible layup – and that is why he has no trade value – that and he is not good. That also might be impacting any trades. May need to add in Hill w/ Jefferies to trade him.

damm jeffries just made me laugh
i thought after that spin it was going in
that shit was a BIG BRICK.
lmao..

first of all cdr has retarded legs ok
he is a bolegged dude
he is an ok player on a team that sucks..

Nets starting to runaway here – 7 point lead???? Perhaps if the Knicks defense does not improve. And again, the Nets have their lottery pick and we do not – that’s all that really comes out of this game today.

and the turnovers continue

Potential 10 point lead if Harris finished the 3 point play

Gallo looks awkward driving to the basket

It is falling apart here – in a hurry – this would be a bad setback – agree w/ Walt.

Terrible turnover by Chandler – awful pass.

can u say the beginning of a blowout..

I don’t know – but Lopez did not look “soft” there rejecting Lee.

beginning of a blowout

Wow down by double figures. Against the New Jersey Nets.

It’s a lay-up party!

Charles Oakley is rolling over in his grave.

Harris to Lopez – better than anything we have.

It was not a tough block. He’s just ouplaying D Lee.

We have “Duhon to Jeffries” though

So lets ask the question.. 2008 Draft.. Gallo or Lopez??? I say LOPEZ! He’s definelty one of the best centers in the East behind Howard.

Sorry – Gallo will be a nice 3 option down the line – but he is not a 1 or 1A or even a 2nd option. If we had Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, and Gallo as the nucleus going forward – Gallo is the third option.

I would go Lopez – but Lopez would not fit Mike D’s kind of basketball. But yeah – I would go Lopez or even Eric Gordon. After those two – I would pick Gallo.

You’re right – I stand corrected (really shaking my head and tearing up a little)

A few weeks ago – certain bloggers said that Lee can outplay Lopez – just countering those assertions.

Great illegal screen Jefferies – good job. Portland just hung up on Donnie.

He’s 21 years old.

I think he’ll be a really good second option in his prime – maybe a 1A type of player if he reaches his potential but I’m not holding my breath. I think he’ll be a great second option.

I just don’t see – especially if we want to become a championship team. Think Bulls: He’s more Pippen or is he more Kukoc. I put him the later category. He may be a second option on a nice 54 win team that makes it to the second round – but I thought we were talking about championships here – championships.

I agree. You get a lot more consistenecy and defense with Lopez. Plus he doesnt have any injuries like Gallo. I think Gallo would be a great 3rd option, but Lopez is the 1st option on the Nets that has a lot of young talent despite the record.

Anyone think Nate will see the light of day today? I won’t be surprised if we start getting blown out that there will be a “we want Nate” chant. Especially since there is so many kids in the audience. If Dantoni doesnt play Nate against the Nets, who knows when he will play him again.

Great job there – cut it 6 – maybe go into the locker room feeling that bad – and then let jumper from the corner w/ .1 secs left – putting an exclamation point on terrible defensive effort in the first half. Just awful defense. I think the NBA is going to add seven points to the Nets’ lead right at the start of the 3rd quarter in anticipation of either future Devin Harris layups or CDR’s buckets and jumper.

It’s a tough question.

I think I keep Gallinari if God tells me that his career won’t be plagued by injuries. I think Gallo has a higher ceiling, but Lopez is a better basketball player right now. He’s a flat-out stud, period.

Nobody really wanted Lopez on draft night though, let’s be honest. I think the real discussion is Gallinari/Gordon.

He may still secretly fear that Nate will hit a three for the Nets today. Which would be one more than Duhon has entirely. Wow – Atlanta’s game was an aberration for Duhon.

LOL Realist and Mucha yall are killing me here. Come on now we all heard all week before the Nets won a game finally that it would be an embarassment if the Knicks lose to the Nets and give them their 1st win. Well (smh) without Curry to clog the lane and use his weight to cause havoc on the athletic and light Net front line we got D Lee and JJ. So Brook is playing like we all thought he was (Thanks D Green) and knew he could play and Devin if I remember ate the Knicks up last year in MSG when he was healthy. I still think the Knicks will win but if it gets so bad that we have to go into a zone to stop the layup line then we have serious problems defensively becuase best believe after Al Harrington’s stab in the heart display in NJ the Nets want this game.

Gallinari could be a legit second option.

Pippen isn’t a fair comparison, he’s one of the greatest players of all-time. He could have been a franchise player without Jordan, I mean he led the Bulls to a 55 win season in 1994. Let’s be serious.

If Gallinari reaches his potential he could have the same impact Gasol had on the Los Angeles Lakers, Ginobili on the San Antonio Spurs or Drexler on the Houston Rockets.

just like J-Hill over BJ3 wasa mistake, so was Gallo over Lopez. Both Donnie/D’ant darfts …

Also Tommy, can you do a survey on what hurts the Knicks more:

a) Nate’s antics while on the layu line & while he’s in a game or
b) D’Ants decision to not play him at all.

Als, how can D’Ant NOT play Nate on Kids Day … he’s the most popular player with the youngins …D’an is such a scrooge!

Brook Lopez is a stud. Where’s Tommy Dee? CDR is making Gallo look like he’s 100 yrs old out there. As much as people like to talk about how unathletic Lopez is, and how he wouldn’t fit here, how many games did Mike D’Antoni win in Phoenix with Kurt Thomas in the middle?

Lopez is a helluva lot more athletic than Kurt. Plus he can give you 20 and 10, and 2 blocks a game. Gallo is a liability right now at the 3. Dude is too slow out there.

Mucha I hear ya, Tommy said the same thing which was that Gallo would be a great 3rd option which goes to my point of why did we draft him so high when we had Lopez there. Gallo if he plays to his potential could be a Toni Kukoc if we have Lebron and hopefully a Gay or Johnson. Wishful thinking I know. Bockers you are right about the Nate situation but if you was the coach and Nate was playing and joking on the layup line and pounding his chest after he scores when we are getting blown would you play him just becuase he can score or its Kids Day?

Drexler – I would not dare put Gallo up in that category. Clyde was special.

Ginobli – you need a Parker also.

Gasol – 7 foot, 250 lbs power forward/center – I just do not see that in Gallo at all – notwithstanding whether he will even stay healthy and hold up over a whole season.

We’re talking about championships – and the second guy on championships – more often than not – needs to be elite in their own right – the Kevin McHale/Parrish, the Worthy/Jabbar towards the end, the Pippen, the Robinson, the Shaq, and Shaq part deux.

Unless you are constructing a completely diverse group like the Pistons of 89-90 and this decade predicated on defense and team – which we are not with Mike D.

There’s nothing wrong w/ Gallo being that nice third option w/ his sweet three point stroke – but there was a reason why guys like Westbrook, Mayo, and Rose went before him – more realistic number 2s down the road.

Dont worry Guy, when Gallo gets his one dunk a game and hits the wide open 3′s you will have a Knicks mix with Gallo and how he is the next all star for the Knicks. (smh)

@ LJohnson2k8 – LMAO you’re right on the money my man.

Did the fans chant we want Nate? Wow I thought I heard everything now at a Knick game lol

A liability?

Thanks Guy but the bad thing is I dont want to be lol

I CALLED IT!!!!! HERE COMES THE ” WE WANT NATE” CHANT!!! I Knew it!

The last chant I remembered in the garden was the very famous “FIRE ISIAH”. LMAO

GET NATE IN THE GAME DUMTONI!!! THE FANS WANT IT! STOP BEING A CHILD, BOTH OF YOU GUYS!

uh oh D’Ant … “we want Nate” starts ringing from the rafters … after the game MDA will say the fans are dumb, “why didn’t they chant for Darko or Landry?” …

I said it back at the begining at the season David Lee can’t cut it as a starting center hes a walking sign that says “Layups here” get Ty Thomas here to play some defense.

That’s funny. Keep it up – we need it in the second half of this game.

LOL

CDR – 9/14 from field – reading the article again now to reevaluate.

CDR unstoppable right now.

D’antoni is being stupid for not putting in Nate. I don’t want to give Nate any satisfaction but 1) we need the energy and 2) we need to rest Hughes and Duhon.

It’s a game of quickness and penetrating to the basket – good thing we drafted a 6’10″ player to sit on the bench and learn from Weber during warm up some post moves.

Atlanta Duhon makes an appearance for a moment w/ a three – Knicks up 3.

even when CDR misses it still looks good for him today

Nobody wanted Brook Lopez before the 2008 draft, it’s just a fact. The discussion was about Eric Gordon, Jerryd Bayless and even Danilo Gallinari. Lopez has exceeded the expectations, period.

Gallinari had franchise potential, he was the best Euro prospect since Dirk Nowitzki. Some experts believed that he could have been the first pick in the draft (ahead of Derrick Rose and Michael Beasley). His back was the problem, not his talent.

I’m not holding my breath though, I think he’ll be a good second option a la Ginobili.

great 3rd Quarter

hughes give the team life in the 3rd..

I hearyou Mucha but he cant create his own shot. He can pass nicely and shoot the open 3 but he offers little else. Knicks came back wow and the Nets are losing their composure. Lets see what happens.

I’m not talking the prime Clyde Drexler OBVIOUSLY, but the 32 year-old Drexler who played for the Rockets. He was a second-option in Houston.

I’m talking about championships too.

The zone is holding up for now. I’m glad D’antoni is tinkering with his D

Two Sundays later – now we foul (unintentionally though) at the end of a period w/ a foul to give.

gallin rite now looks no more than a 3pt shooter.

mayb he grow or he gets stuck with this.

Well the scouts were wrong – this is now the best European prospect since Dirk:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donatas-Motiejunas-1300/

Wish we had our lottery pick – oh do I wish we had our lottery pick. I hope IT loses all of his games in Florida this year as a head coach.

Can’t we send a game tape of today’s Larry Hughes performance to the Rockets: Hughes and Jefferies for T-Mac’s expiring. Oh I forgot – Jefferies is bad and makes 6.5 million plus next season.

26 points for CDR – reading the article above a third time now.

Chris Duhon posterizes Josh Boone!

Wait… no.

I think the Boone rejection there of Duhon’s shot sums up Duhon’s season for me so far (excluding Atlanta – aberration??) – just never really had a shot.

Has Chris Duhon ever played one on one basketball before? The guy has no moves at all, he can not elude anyone. Does anyone have Marbury’s cell?

Jeffries takes charge on Harris early in the third, knicks go 30-16 to finish the quarter.

just saying

Chandler makes up for some of his mistakes w/ his second efforts.

Jefferies sets an illegal screen and misses an easy lay up earlier – just saying – that third quarter also was more Hughes than Jefferies.

And if you talk this much about Jefferies – why does this blog more often than not advocate trading the guy? If he does so many things that do not show up in the boxscore – we should just keep to be part of 2010 and the future.

The kid only has half a season under his belt, I really don’t think we’ve seen everything he’s got. I think Gallo has the capability to eventually create a slashing component to his game. We’ve seen flashes of this. He has pretty good handle for a 6’10” guy and has nice long strides. The 3-ball will be his bread and butter, but I don’t think he’s going to be 1-dimensional. We’ll see.

Duhon has to setup Chandler hes suppose to tell Wilson get on the block if he doesn’t already know that if not he will take shots like that because he was out there for a while and didn’t get a touch.

And Jefferies just shoving off there and committing the offensive foul

Nice steal by Gallo!

Simple because he aint no star and he is preventing us from signing one. Excuse The Incorrect English.

And the we want Nate chants reappeared

Damn, Jeffries you suck!!!!

WE WANT NATE!!!!

I wish the crowd would chant we want our lottery pick back – we want our lottery pick back

Nates already traded LOL

Im mad we didn’t have a 2nd round pick that year!!!
Mario Chalmers or CDR would be great over here.

to be fair – Jefferies good job drawing the foul – bad job missing the 1st free throw

To be fair again – nice charge drawn there by Jefferies

What are you talking about? The only reason we talk about Jeffries is because we want to trade him. It’s possible to appreciate Jeffries drawing fouls/create turnovers and still want to trade him. Those are not mutually exclusive concepts.

This is why I am not happy with these new Knick fans. We are winning the damn game and all they want to chant is we want Nate. Its not about winning with some of these fans its entertainment. Well if I want to see great entertainment they have the movies. With some of these fans its not about winning championships.

I don’t blame the young fans who just came to game this decade b/c they were too young for the 90s and before. It’s not their fault that they had Layden and IT as GMs running the team for most of this decade and Dolan as their owner. I blame management for allowing this culture to exist.

3 out of the last 4 – a positive from this – decreasing the odds that Utah winds up with a primo lottery selection in June.

If Donnie calls Kahn we may be able to buy a first rounder from Minny they have 3 I want Paul George.

What is there really to appreciate about Jefferies?? He has his good and his bad just like any basketball player – but to continually talk him up as if he started the run in the third quarter is going beyond that. There was not talk about Hughes in the original post under this thread now. What is there really to appreciate on a season that it primarily based on what will happen in 2010 – so no – in the “grand scheme” of things – they are not mutually exclusive concepts.

That would be great – we could try for Minny’s no. 20 – George the soph from Fresno – I would more than take that.

Lee outplayed Lopez.

Lee 9 rebounds, 24 pts, +14

Lopez 6 rebounds, 19 pts, -10

but don’t the fans (young or not) deserve more respect than D’ant gives them? This was a matinee game especially for the young fans & Nate is the player they relate to most … Scrooge D’ant has to stop making it seem like if Nate plays or is a liitle exubarent on the lay-up line, the team goes down in flames … He is absolutely over doing this benching. 3 games?? The league dosen’t suspend guys that long for throwing a punch!

yup he been traded they just waiting for the rite time to announce it..

I know what you are sayin. I actually heard someone say start Nate at PG….

Nobody is throwing a parade for Jeffries. I don’t know where you got the impression that he is continually talked up around here? JJ’s inadequacies and outrageous contract has been a huge talking point for years, it’s been done. Why are you so offended by commentary that took time to point out the few positives?

December 15th?

i dont think that WILSON CHANDLER is wayyyy better than anyone

in the real world, kool aid drinker

no way,GALLO has a rare outside shot,ya gotta keep him and see what he can do with it in a couple of years ,when he is the focal point of the perimiter.remember,this is like a rookie year for gallo,and hes only 21 years old.hes gonna be god like when we get a ood point guard

HE ONLY 21 YEARS OLD

OR JOHN RINGO

THE KNICKS ARE JUST STARTING TO LOOK LIKE THEYRE PLAYING SERIOUS,KEEP THAT CLOWN ROBINSON ON THE FRIGGN BENCH WHERE HE BELONGS .HE’LL ONLY RUIN THINGS