Opinion: Do Not Deal for Iggy or Caron…

I really don’t think we have any chance of getting either guy especially with Donnie sticking to his plan. I just don’t see it.

If you can do Iggy for Eddy/Hill id do it in a second.

Add Lebron/Lee in 2010 DONE! Wishful thinking.

Right. I do not think there is a realistic chance. Hill and Eddy might get the door opened for talks, but I doubt that would be anywhere near enough.

I think that Philly will look to dump either Brand or Dalembert before they try to dump Iggy. Iggy will be a commodity during the off-season too. No need to rush him out yet.

As for Butler, Curry and Hill for McGee and Butler is something I’d look into. I do not think that Washington would bite, but I’d make the call anyway.

There are two problems with “the plan” One is the unlikelihood of getting rid of Curry and JJ for expiring contracts. The other is the emergence of Lee, Robinson and JJ as improving players on an improved team, If we decide to extend Lee and/or Robinson, it will eat into the existing cap space to the extent we may not get that franchise player. In that event Iggy or Butler would be a worthy upgrade to the roster. All of this is subject to change as the season progresses.

hahaha I see I finally got to somebody about Iggy and Caron.

I agree about them trying to push Brand and Dalembert out before Iggy but you have to wonder whats going through Philly’s general managers mind when he doesn’t automatically shoots down the Iggy for T-Mac trade proposition.
As far as Caron goes I think the Wiz would be interested in what they are getting but I don’t think they would give us Caron and Mcgee…They like Mcgee too much.

Iggy is just as athletic as shaun marion (if not moreso) and much more talented. Having him under D’Antoni would be unreal, but it would hurt our chances at a 2010 free agent and i don’t see either player coming here under any circumstances, sadly

So much that he only plays 8 minutes per game….

Iggy would bring back a better haul in the summer if they really want to trade him. At that point, teams will not be worrying about a shrinking cap and will be willing to offer more to get him (especially if they lose out on other free agents).

I will ask this again since this is a new post.

If Walsh didn’t hire D’Antoni…who in your opinion should he had hired?

Let’s see what the alternatives are to D’Antoni.

They love to say fire the coach…who would you replace him with?

This should be good.

Just give me the names of the coaches out there you would bring in right now or who you would’ve hired when we hired D’Antoni.

Something that just hit me

Wilson/Jeffries/Nate for Iggy.

Keep in mind we are 2 million away from 2 Max Contracts and with that trade if my numbers are correct, (which they proably aren’t) we are 3 million away from 2 Max Contracts.

I would do Will, Douglas & Curry for Iggy, since Iggy actually feels a need at the
SG.

Butler would be yet another SF on this team, no thanks

Most people will say Mark Jackson.

I will pass on both of them. No one can explain that if these guys are nearly as good as they are made out to be, why are their team records so awful? No way Im paying either one of these guys anything close to what they make right now.

If Iguodala was in the free agent class of 2010 we would probably be talking about him as a target.

I answered this on the other post..no need to ask again.

Without checking exact numbers, then you might be right. Wilson probably makes over 2 million. JJ makes close to 7. Iggy probably makes just over 10 next season.

No one looking for cap space in 2010 wants anything to do with Iggy or Butler.

The Cavs will be players as will the Mavs and maybe the Lakers/Celtics.

these guys on long term deals arent on Donnie’s radar if he didnt want to spent under 4 mil on a PG this off season.

Iggy is a better player than Caron, no question.

The Sixers biggest problem is their lack of a point guard. I said it over the summer when they let Miller walk and I will say it again. They really screwed up thinking that they did not need a true point to win.

Stupid.

The plan is not (and never was) to sign 2 max contracts this summer.

they drafted Jrue Holiday to be the Point guard. They should have brought someone else in.. But Minny did the same thng and turned out OK..

they rolled the dice and lost.

I live in Philly and have watched Iggy since he came to town. I, for one, wouldn’t do a deal for him.

First, Iggy is a SF, not a SG. We already have Wilson Chandler who does many of the same things Iggy does and who probably a better shooter. (Ok, maybe he’s not as good a passer as Andre.)

Second, Iggy has been horrible in the playoffs for the Sixers because he just isn’t that good an outside shooter and teams have adjusted their defenses accordingly. This is probably the reason the Sixers obtained Elton Brand … which seems to have backfired.

Third, what would the Sixers do with Dalenbert, Brand AND Curry?

For these reasons, I don’t see this happening … thankfully.

Agreed. Andre was arguable their most valuable player.

Miller, that is.

Yeah, I’m glad we don’t have that problem **cough** Duhon **cough** LOL

But Miller isn’t playing so well. He probably wasn’t worth $21 million over 3 years. They might have made the correct decision there. We didn’t really want him for that price either, right?

Good post. it is interesting how we criticize our own players with regularity but fail to see the flaws in players on other teams (especially trade targets. Iggy is an upgrade but you will have to take Dalenbert or Brand to get him. Don’t think we want to go there. l

Depends on the price.

Call me crazy but I don’t think Iguodala would be a good fit, he likes to have the ball in his hands and he’s not good enough to have a significant impact on the win-loss column with his style of play in my opinion. I think he tries to do too much.

Caron Butler is an intriguing option, he’s overrated but he’s a really good player and I think he’d be a good fit from a pure basketball standpoint.

No thanks unless we get rid of Eddy Curry in the process though.

Right.

Iggy is not a great shooter. He is serviceable, but not great. That said, there is no denying his ability to score. You do not have to be a great shooter to be a good scorer. Also, Iggy does so much in so many other parts of the game. He is a very good player. Not a superstar, but a very good player.

Also, they would never take back Curry unless we took back Dalembert. Never.

As for Jrue Holiday…. I do not think that Philly took Holiday expecting him to be their point guard this year, They should have brought in a veteran to be a stop gap for a season.

butler to chicago is the lastest

So if we can’t get rid of Curry unless we take back Dalembert in a trade for Iguo “empty stats” dala… the trade is Isiah-ish Chris. We wouldn’t even have enough capspace to offer LeBron a max contract. You know.

I know you understand that

that originally was the plan but it cant happen anymore..

Iggy makes 12.3 next year

If the Knicks had to fire Mike D’Antoni I think I would jump on the Avery Johnson bandwagon.

But I’m fine with D’Antoni. He’s doing a good job, he just needs to understand that Jordan Hill needs to play.

Wasn’t Lou Williams supposed to be the PG this year but he got hurt early?

Also Iggy is star. I can’t believe people here are killing him like this. His game has flaws yes but he is still far and above better than any player on our team and would give us a legitimate option late in games for once. Also he playes some killer defense. He isn’t Lebron, Wade or Bosh but if he was your 1A player I think you are in really good shape.

A few years ago he made AI expendable and carried the Sixers into the playoffs with the help of the very underrated Andre Miller.

so what..he’s young and full of potential. washington has many vets on their team who take all the minutes

Sorry, but this is one of my pet peeves.

The original plan was:

“To have cap flexability in the summer of 2010 and be competitive”

I’m pretty sure Walsh made that statement at one of his first press conferences.

Walsh never said 2 max free agents, in fact I don’t believe that Walsh ever even said 1 max free agent. The media and fans made up the 2 max free agent plan after we dumped over $27 in 2010 with the Crawford and ZBO trades for expirings. It certainly created a lot of hype, but it was never the plan.

Do you have any quote where Walsh stated that our plan was to sign 2 max free agents?

Interesting. But doesn’t Chicago already have Deng? I thought Chicago was looking for a scoring SG like Ben Gordon or a legit PF.

What makes you say that? The supposed trade with Houston is just Iggy.
And If you think there isn’t a bi difference between Iggy and Wil, we have a problem.

Right. I was in a rush so I didn’t check. Butler, makes in the 10 million dollar ballpark.

Iggy is not a player to blow the cap space on. Neither is Butler.

Right. And I wouldn’t do it. Never said I would.

Thank You!!
The lack of respect for Iggy’s game around here is crazy.

Washington won’t be making any trades any time soon.
They have been put on hold by the NBA from making any deals until this situation is settled.

Iggy is good but he’s not a star. I’ll pass on him.
Butler is good but he’s not a star…I’ll pass on him also.

No moves until after July 1st fellas.
We’re almost there…just a little more patience.

so we want cap flexibility so Dolan can make more money?

the whole nba been on hold

they are checking lockers

when thats clear everything will go back to normal
they are also looking for anytype of weapons

knifes razors
u name it..

Yea, we would have enough money for Lebron.

Good pts. However, Iggy can slash to the hoop and finish. We alreay have enough bonafide pure shooter sin Gallo, N8 and Harrington (if we keep him). Who are the Sixers’ shooters when opposing teams pack it in?

If our Knicks can put together a plan to have inside presence, we would be on our way on the offensive end.

Besides, Gallo want’s to see NO part of guarding Iggy anymore!

Well , we know they won’t find a defensive playbook in the Knicks lockers!

Come on man, you should know this more than anyone.

There is a lot more you can do with cap flexability than just make a list of free agents starting with LeBron and offer each of them max contract until the first two accept. Cap flexability also gives you a lot of trade flexability.

Do you really think that Walsh’s plan was to build this team:

1. Max Agent 1
2. Max Agent 2
3. Gallo
4. Chandler
5. Douglas
6. Hill
7. Jefferies
8. Curry
9. out of money

What type of max free agent would sign to a team with the supporting cast of 3-8? The answer is probably zero.

At least you could blame Walsh for the short rotation instead of D’antoni.

But seriously, you know that plan was never to simply sign 2 max free agents and call it a day. There are a lot of talented players available that summer (Walsh acutally said that) Most of them will not require the max offer. You build a team with those types of guys. I do assume that they will probably go for one max guy though.

You might have to throw in the towel on this debate. Two max free agents were never the plan. It was nothing more than fan and media hype. Please don’t refer to it like it’s a fact.

how did jeffries miss that lay up? LOL

Tom Thibodeau

i agree that it aint happening ..

But when Donnie got here we were looking at the potential of a 60 million dollar plus salary cap in 2010.. In a 60 mil cap world it is possible to get to 40 mil under and then add two max guys and still ahve some wiggle room to add some vets like Boston..or San Antonio does..

with a 53-55 million dollar cap not so much.

remember we went from 58/59 to 57 and that was the first drop in the cap EVER>. then they were saying this past july we could go to 50 or 53 if the economy continues to suck. Now 55 looks like where we will settle in for 2010

good one..

Those cap scenarios may be correct. However, it does not change the FACT that our GM only stated ONE plan. Get under the cap and be competitive.

Even when we where in a $60 million cap world, he never mentioned signing 2 max free agents. That was only speculation. Let’s stick with the facts.

lmao