Official Deadline Thread

Now my head is spinning lol. Ima just leave my pc and come back on at 3/4 PM.

Come on Donnie.

Knicks get:
T-Mac
S-Rod

Sac get:
Jared Jeffries
Hughes
Hill and Picks

Boston:
Player to be named
and a pick?

If we don’t clear cap, I’ll obviously be royally pissed, but……. This is fun.

HUH??? now i’m reallllly lost….lol….4-team trade???

i wonder who we’ll be losing out on…s-rod or giddens???

What the hell is going on? Donnie you need to do something! This is make or break day for you. What is the hold up? Forget the pick, let it go, if that’s what the hold up is. You’re planning on being a better team anyway, right? That’s what you been telling is fans for two years. So if that isthe case let o of the 2012 pick. Get things done!
Nate deal isn’t done!
Tmac deal isn’t done!

What are you doing? I’m hoping that you show us what you’re made of, and hopefully it’s greatness. But right now you look real shaky, and the garden maybe calling for you and D’antoni’s head real soon. Get it done!

Donnie, lets get it done. We need to clear this cap

maybe K Mart winds up in Boston and Nate in sacto..

I want to walk away from today with JJ gone.. Hill gone.. Nate gone..Lee gone(wishful), Buckets gone, Hughes gone

and S Rod, McGrady, Ty Thomas in blue and orange…

wake me up at 3pm

Walsh better have balls that big (in the pic) and pull this all off.

+1

Pause! LMAO!!!

Don’t trade Nate. Especially if it the trade is for Eddie House.

That would make NO sense at all.

The rush to acquire all these expiring contracts is gonna be funny, in retrospect, after the coming off-season is over and the Knicks don’t have Lebron, D-Wade, or Bosh, and are paying hot-dog vendors to get on the court.

krumbledkookie,

Why keep him? He’s going to be gone after this season anyway, so why not get a pick that we could use to get someone else? There’s no sense in keeping Nate unless you want to watch him thump his chest after hitting a 3 to pull the knicks within 16 points with 4 minutes left in the game.

this is huge deal for this franchise any way you slice it.

You’re kidding right?

In what way? Like this really means anything. It would be nice to get rid of JJ and his contract and get a #1 for the Nate deal to use for a later trade.

But this team is so far away from being any good that anything done today is minor surgery.

Knicks get
S-rod
T-mac

Celtics get
Nate

Kings get
Landry
Dorsey
hughes

Rockets get
Kevin Martin
Jeffries
1st round pick (celtics)

It’s a huge deal because we’re one summer from being instant contenders (assuming things go to plan). Today goes a LONG way towards making that big summer shopping spree a reality.

5 HOURS TO GO DONNIE!!!

ITS THE BIG DAY BOYS [Second biggest to summer 2010]. Hopefully when I get out of class today I can come home to a brand new roster with cap space. Lets go Donnie. MAKE MOVES.

“Let’s change the way we eat, let’s change the way we live
and let’s change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn’t working so it’s on us to do
what we gotta do” -2pac

Ha. You mean its a “procedure” and not surgery? I can definitely see your point, however the Knicks have had so few opportunities (outside of the draft – don’t want to go there) to make any beneficial changes recently that any deadline induced motivation for teams to talk trade with Donnie presents potential upside. Just the thought of getting a draft pick, dumping a salary, getting another point guard or moving disgruntled vets seems like Christmas.

I’m guessing Walsh is trying to include the Nate trade since the BYC is a pain in the ass to match salaries with.

I was/am looking for to getting JR Giddens in a Nate trade. This kid can be a scorer.

IMO best scenario has us getting TMAC, Sergio Rodriguez, JR Giddens and Shelden Williams. Then swapping “Small” Al Harrington for Ty Thomas.

The big prize is we get a look at TMAC, and the cap relief.

But Sergio, Giddens, Williams and Thomas are all young players looking to prove their previous team(s) wrong. I like all of their potential, and they all bring different things to the table as far as skills.

If a four way along the lines described above were to be completed it would be a major coo by DW. Sounds a little too good to be true to me though.

Changes…classic haha

but foreal let’s go Donnie, I really really hope I’m not gonna be pissed of come 3 pm…

On another note I really hope we get Ty Thomas to be a part of our future, I really like the guys style of play. He’s hi energy, shotblocking, running the floor, and is extremly atheletic.

Well, I don’t want him gone after this season. He’s dynamic, and most importantly, fun to watch. Who else on the Knicks is fun to watch, besides Nate and David Lee? (Wilson Chandler is alright, I suppose.)

I just don’t care for the supposed fact that Lee and Nate won’t be around next year. They’re the only reason I’ve watched games over the last 3 years. All that time invested in watching these guys grow to be good players goes right down the drain, for what? To make a run at Lebron, that in my estimation, will end in failure.

Donnie is so Godfather ghetto pimp in that picture. Do it Donnie!

this seems most realistic. we give up nate to boston, who sends thier first rounder to houston. so its like trading nate instead of jordan hill. im cool with that.

if all we have to give up is hughes and nate to get rid of jeffries…donnie would be the man

Getting House is good because there is no guarantee that we’ll get Sergio yet, and McGrady won’t be ready for long minutes right away. At least this way we can have a guard who is a three point threat on the pick and roll to get practice in running that offensive set for whatever young players we keep. Even coming off the bench he’s better than Duhon. It’s still not too late to pad some more players stats for the summer trading season. 2010 – the beginning, not the end.

remember that trading him doesnt mean he cant come back next year.

I, for one, love watching Wilson Chandler 1000000x more than Nate. Chandler is a real basketball player. Nate is little and can dunk, how exciting! Yeah he’s charismatic and can fill it up, but he’s a bonehead. He doesn’t listen and does stupid things alllll the time. So if it takes moving Nate in order to get a pick that lets us dump Jeffries? Count me in. Even if we miss out on Bron, this move opens up a chain of events that let us bring in two big time FA’s (or keep Lee and bring in another).

Unfortunately, we’ll still have Duhon…

Ok DW, today’s the day. We better come out of this with a changed team, preferrably with JJ’s Isiah contract gone. Lets wipe out the stink from Zeke’s glory days, although we will still have Curry on our roster. Well, I guess we will have Wilson too, one Isiahs only good moves ever. Thanks Zeke. DW, get this done without getting ripped off and I will forget all about you not getting a backup pg for 2 years. Please.

Damn I’m kinda gettin impatient…

I really want the moment to come when I reload the knicksblog page and see a headline article reading “tmac to the knicks, jeffries gone, and al for Ty Thomas”…

That make my week!

So, in two days, we will ahve gone from:

leaving Knicks:
Nate, Jeffries, Hill, 2012 1st, 2011 swap, Hughes

joining Knicks:
T-Mac, Brian Cook, Joey Dorsey

to

leaving Knicks:
Nate, Jeffries, Hughes

joining Knicks:
T-Mac, Sergio

Keep dreaming, my friend.

Hopefully it means he won’t

DwayneT welcome. Now we have most of the Newsday crew here. (Hopefully you know who stays away)

I agree the House addition is good in a sense that it will add more outside shooting. Isn’t this move a little late though? If it was a salary dump to clear additional 2010 space I could see it, but moving Nate at this point in a lost season seems pointless to me. It’s obvious No D’Antoni forced Walsh’s hand.

The lack of news is killing me! Is no news good news??

*DwaneT

Chad Ford is saying that the Bulls-Bucks trade isn’t exactly clear. Not necessarily Kurt Thomas and Elson for Salmons, could be Warrick and Joe Alexander instead.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=4922618

Yes I know that had nothing to do with the Knicks. Helped take my mind off the Knicks for a minute though.

If it nets us a first rounder we can use to dump Jeffries, that’s where you’ll find the point in the trade. If not, we traded a shoot-first small shooting guard for another shoot-first small shooting guard.

@Theknicks120

That trade makes no sense for the kings, the Knicks would still have to send a first to the kings in that deal and Eddie house would have to go to the Knicks.

ESPN and all the sites have said that the structure for the Knicks trade is so far done that it almost is sure to happen. I think that Hill is being kept in this scenario:

Rockets get the Celtics pick (along with K-Mart and the rest of the junk)

Kings get the 2012 lottery protected and the switch option next year

Knicks get T-Mac and Sergio

Since the trade is already completed with the Rockets/Kings, the Knicks really aren’t going to give Houston anything except for what it would take to get Sergio (which honestly the Celtics late first round pick seems like more then enough)

Tracy Mcgrady is a buyout candidate for the Kings, he would eat into Tyreke Evans touches the same way Martin was. I think the Knicks would ship Duhon to the Kings to be the pass first PG to distribute and run the offense for the rest of the season along with jeffires and Hughes to whomever along with the 2012 maybe unprotected if it kept Hill.

I am very interested

That would be awsome!!!

lack of news likely means they are all too busy to leak info to
the bloggers and shnoggers

Um…How do the Knicks get T-mac without trading a single player other than Nate?

I’ll sacrifice Nate if it means we can keep Lee, because you’re right, Nate does do dumb things all the time. I keep holding on to hope that he’ll mature a little bit, as he has (a bit) thus far, but the process seems to be goin a bit slow. What I’ve heard though, is that this is to get him out of D’Antoni’s hair, which is a huge fail to me.

It’s got to be about more than that, right?

Tommy how about this…truly think it makes some sense for both sides:

Nate, Harrington, Jeffries, unprotected 2011 1st rounder

FOR

Ray Allen & Brian Scalabrine

i think Boston would seriously consider this. Run this by the authorities! thanks

Here’s a site with trade updates, like TKB. Not just dealing with Knicks, but the whole league. Also updated quite often. I’m not downplaying the great work done here on TKB or trying to turn anyone away from TKB, I just figured, much like I’m sure Tommy does, you may like to look at other places for info as well.

http://sprungonsports.com/

Nate and Lee are completely unrelated.. the numbers are very different for both obviously..

And i dont want Lee!!

I hope it’s more about getting that draft pick to sweeten a Jeffries poo-poo platter, but Nate’s antics drive D’Antoni insane, so I wouldn’t rule out him being traded just to relieve D’Antoni of his biggest headache.

Knicks can’t trade their 2011 since they traded their 2010.

Oh, and…

Boston would never, ever, ever, ever, ever do that.

Kings were asking for a trade exception for Sergio a couple of days ago, no way he is worth a first round pick.
I am glad you are not the GM.

Nice one. Looks like Arn Tellem is our biggest asset right now.

3 hours and counting! Dump em Donnie! And throw in Eddie Curry while yer at it!

lol, u guys are funny….what’s good fellas…..he’s already starting to trash isola’s blog on the daily news website…lol….but hey u neva know how the chemistry will be w/ nate/al/hughes/jj out the locker room…we may go on a roll, we need a couple 3-5 game win streaks n we’ll be right back in the playoff hunt….ESPECIALLY W/ WADE HURTING N POSSIBLY MISSING A CPL GAMES…..

I agree BiggieSmalls I don’t want Lee either and he can take D’Antoni with him. Donnie’s job is not complete until he fires the coach. So take that, Tommy Dee or should I say The Educated Tommy Dee.

you sure? boston has been intrigued by Nate for over a year now…switch the 2011 1st round picks and give em our 2012 first rounder…i think Boston would have an interesting offer…

Donnie should try to trade D’Antoni since he has been on a roll. He should trade Tommy Dee also while he is at it. HAAAAAAAAAA LOL

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN’T GET ANY WORK DONE AT WORK, AND KEEPS REFRESHING EVERY SINGLE BLOG OUT THERE?????

I’m not surprised. He was actually here for a short while but got pushed away lol.

Wade’s injury might hurt Miami’s chances but the Knicks still have to jump over 3 teams with 30 games to go. The Knicks have only one month over .500 this season.

Well cutting out a little tumor seems like surgery to me.

Here’s what is amazing to me…all the bitching and positioning by the Rockets with the draft picks for taking Jeffries then they turn around and backstab us to take on Martin’s ($9.5/4yrs.) and Niconi’s ($7.5/3yrs.) contracts, and no picks asked for (at least unaware of). Screw Morley! Explain that Tommy…if you can!

You better hope your boss doesn’t have access to this blog lol.

Stay Patient My Friends

It’s D’Antoni’s fault he’s stuck with a roster of uninterested & uninspired veterans coupled with young players not ready to step up and be stars? Yeah, BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!

Haha lmao…

I’m in class a day and have two tests, I will most likely he failing both of them. Let’s hope a goes as planned…go knicks!!

Get it done Donnie!!!!

Yeah, BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!

No I’ll take my D’Antoni flame broiled. This coach stinks and your evaluation of him stinks also.

OMFG, did u guys read this $hit????

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64833/20100218/bulls_involved_in_houston_sacramento_talks/

if this goes thru, we’ll lose out on mcgrady, and tyrus thomas…..
n only end up w/ eddie house after today….fkn bulls, back the fk up bitches..lol…fall back, n let us get mcgrady, n we’ll be MORE than happy to take tyrus off yours….

lol, u ain’t eva lie….he actually does business w/ the knicks and john starks…lol, soo i hope not…..dbt he has the time to read all this ish…LIKE WE DO…

DAntoni hand picked Duhon and started him 48 games staight and counting. Trade coach D’Antoni Trade Tommy Dee, Trade Flanzo, Trade JJ, Trade Duhon andTrade the darn ball boy while you at it.

all those articles with the Knicks “almost a done deal.” what crap. i’ve said it before, everything is pure speculation until something definite happens

I’m hearing Thomas to Bobcats

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/11838893

Looks like the was before the deal was done, because the Salmons deal and the Martin/Landry swap kinds of ruin the Bulls getting involved

I didn’t know a single sentence summary of the horrendous situation he’s in is an evaluation. Duhon is gone this year, D’Antoni clearly doesn’t want to play him, but does because his other option is……………

………….

…………

…………Oh, there isn’t one. That’s DW, not D’Antoni.

wow, if that’s tru, i’d be DEEPLY depressed, i actually want thomas more than mcgrady, he’ll fit in the system better, and possible can be a piece down the road…..IT SEEMS THIS DAY MAY END UP FKN BLOWING FOR US, n donnie will hit us w/ people were asking too much, blah blah, we didn’t want to give up future picks (THAT WILL END UP BUST NEWAY) n (a bum like) Hill, soo he can be the next coming of mikki moore…..GOOD FKN CALL…

Hey Shakespeare

Would you like us to make the deal with our picks unprotected?

Tommy, what about DARKO MILICIC to Minnesota? Is that true?

further proof

Woj says:
“Sources say that Knicks-Bulls talks on Tyrus Thomas trade have lost traction. “A long shot now,” one official says.”

This day is going from bad to worse. First I go to bed last night with things close to being done for McGrady to NY with Jeffries gone. I fully expected to land Thomas today and now not only are we not going to get the second max contract money we are not going to get an athletic stud who is 24 yrs old to help build around. We are about to get stuck with our dicks in hand thanks to a reluctance to not protect a pick 2 years from now when we should be a playoff team anyway if Donnie trusts his “plan”

Berman who I barely trust says:

“Arn Tellem tells me 3-way talks ongoing between Knicks-Rockets-Kings and could well be the same Knick players involved without the picks.”

I can’t believe that is possible

this is stupid

Ok if its the same players then Donnie needs to pull the trigger on the Bulls deal for Ty Thomas now before he goes to Charlotte. If we lose Hill and dont get back Thomas then it is a bust.

I am nervous. Why would the Kings trade KMart for cap space and a young player and then trade that cap space immediately away for Jordan Hill? Who plays the same position as Carl Landry. Doesn’t make sense.

“Forget the pick, let it go, if that’s what the hold up is. You’re planning on being a better team anyway, right?”

OMG, that is exactly what IT was saying when he traded for Marbury and Curry. Have you learned nothing?

The hold-up is that Donnie is not going to panic and make bad deals. Hopefully he has worked out a way to keep Hill and/or picks.

Could the Wizards take on Jeffries? Do they have interest in Hill/Douglas/picks?

I WOULD LOVEEEEEEEEE TOOOO……answer me this….Is hill or anyone we’d draft in what should be in the 20′s of the 2011 n 2012 drafts better than mcgrady or tyrus thomas???? UMMMMM YEA I THINK NOT……..need to fkn stop acting like the damn twolves n start thinkin like boston n la….FKA DRAFT PICK….

ARE WE PLANNING ON HAVING THE FIRST PICK NEXT YR OR 2012??? I FKN HOPE NOT…..this is the way dw is acting…..

GREAT NOW WE’RE GOING TO BE FKN STUCK W/ AL/HUGHES N FKN JEFFRIES….N ONLY HAVE EDDIE HOUSE TO SHOW FOR IT….

DONNIE SHOULD GO JUMP OFF THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE For THIS ONE….

I WILL FKN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THESE BUMS ANY FKN CHANCE I GET…….

OO YEA….N NOT TO MENTION NOW WE CAN’T AFFORD 2 STARS….FKN AWESOME MOVE DONNIE….gd call…

I like ty too, but from what I hear from Chicago is that he takes games off. Doesnt always show the same effort. He needs a leader like LBJ to keep his energy up for every game.

Donnie needs to get Chicago to agree to the Al Harrington deal first. Even if we dont move Jordan Hill, oh well, then we have Ty Thomas and Jordan Hill, a starter and a backup.

This should have been the first thing Donnie did this morning once Salmons was dealt and the Bulls were out of T-Mac.

I’m getting depressed…

Hopefully my mood changes by 3 o’clock

Yeah it also doesn’t make sense that Housotn would give up Landry AND Dorsey along with TMac only to take on KevMart’s contract. Geoff Petrie ftw on this one.

I second that.

+3

If Chicago, as is being reported, gets a future #1 pick from Charlotte for Tyrus Thomas, I hope Donnie gets a future #1 from Boston for Nate or things might not look too savory in tomorrow’s papers…the fan excitement pendulum keeps swinging…only yesterday Donnie was looking like he was going to be called a “hero” for being in the position of offering 2 max contracts this summer yet today with all the cheap dumping going on (LAC, Chicago) and the Knicks still seemingly without a dump deal…might Donnie, despite all his patience, connections, savvy and experience be getting the “goat” tag?

There is stil nearly 3 hrs to go but the trade deadline is starting to feel an awful lot like the 2009 draft – High hopes but when the dust settles, nothing looks half as good as you had hoped.

Hope I am wrong…

Less than three hours left! Donnie I hope your working up something big, you are eerily quiet right now! You already lost T. Thomas!

According to Yahoo!.com the deal with Charlotte and Chi for Ty Thomas is done, with Chicago getting Acie Law and Flip Murray and a first round pick and Cha getting Ty Thomas.

+4

Ty Thomas is not the answer.

Kid is a freak athletically but his work ethic, attitude, and approach to the game suck.

I would NOT want to build my team around Ty Thomas.

Aren’t the Wiz shedding salaries?

Great deal for Chicago.

They should also try to move Hinrich.

100%

no pick for Nate is unacceptable

strike one for Donnie..

Acie law and Flip Murray are going to help Chicago?

Really? more than Al Harrington? Most Chicago fans were supporting getting Al as they Need an offensive focused front court player ,

Gar Heard/Paxson dump a 2010 contract for free and get a #1 pick for Tyrus Thomas. Gotta give them an “A”

Dunleavy dumps two contracts 2010 worth 5+mm for free. Have to give him an “A” – Did I really just write that?

Micheal Jordan gives up a #1 pick for Tyrus Thomas, have to assume he is going to pay the 6.25 million q/o next year…Would give him a C- which could rise to a C if Thomas is a factor in the playoffs or a D if he isn’t. If he doesn’t keep him in 2010 it gets an F-

John Hammond gives contract relief to Chicago for Salmons but gets ZERO draft picks. Have to give him a C- here as well. Does he really think Salmons is the missing piece who is going to make them a contender this year or next? C’mon John if you are going to screw NY as least make Chicago pay the going rate…

tick tick tick

Chicago didn’t want to help the Knicks in any way. They’re going after the same guys.

chicago is going after Wade.

we dont need their help.. they needed to clear Ty Thomas and get a player back who will help this year and work cheaper next

I dont think Acie law or Flip murray is that person.

So now that Sacto has McGrady Donnie should slam that door shut and NOT deal with Sacto.. they are going to cut him anyway..

Wow T-Mac is in Sacramento and the Knicks are trying to get him from the Kings, but I just heard that the Kings want David Lee. Boy Has our dreams may come true lol

The Knicks weren’t going after Wade? Not even a little, if LeBron decides to stay put? I think Chicago wants Bosh as a fallback, too.

Sacto asked for Lee and the Knicks said there wasn’t enough time to get him to agree. Can you believe that they didn’t talk to him about the possibility before today? Talk about being unprepared. Ugh.

This is not looking good. One hour, five minutes left to move Jared Jeffries. Really, no one will take Jordan Hill and a 2nd rounder for JJ’s 1.5 years?

Well, they reported asked for David Lee and multiple picks to take Jeffries. Donnie isn’t going to do that if he wasn’t going to do it when it was Hughes instead of Lee.

so John salmons can get moved but JJ is still a knick?

what a frickin joke..

now Sacto wants to try to hold us up and make a JJ/Lee PLUS picks for Mcgrady..

See ya.. Send us picks for Lee… or let him walk in July.

Donnie is screwing the pooch right now.. can someone wake him up.

I guess getting a draft pick for Nate is nice. But, without opening additional cap room, this is a bust of a deadline.

I suppose Donnie could always trade Jeffries in the summer and then trade for a guy with a big contract?

i think donnie outsmarted himself homie.

If I could talk to Walsh I would ask him this, with all the double doubles Lee gets why we still get killed in games and we have the record that we do. Please stop overvaluing our players we are lucky somebody wants JJ.

what are the final details on the Nate trade????

Jezzus.. we have to see Nate say good bye in tweets but cant get the details on what is coming back??

if it is Eddie House and no pick Im irate.

dont talk to me about JR Geddings.

Ty Thomas got the Bulls a pick.. WTF!!!

Apparently the Knicks a) don’t think they could convince him, and b) don’t want to lose him. Sadly.

via ESPN
Multiple sources say the Knicks have reached a tentative agreement on a deal with Boston sending Nate Robinson and a second player to the Celtics for Eddie House, J.R. Giddens and Bill Walker. The identity of the second New York player was not immediately clear.

AWFUL.. JUST AWFUL!!!!!

Word.

Looks like we also lose Marcus Landry, who I like more than any other guy in the deal. Just a terrible trade.

yeah.. i really liked him for Next year.

Donnie got fleeced by Ainge.

this does absolutely nothing 4 us.

please dont talk to me about eddie House.. Im sure he’ll be excited to be here for 30 games instead of the middle of a playoff push by the Celtics..

In Donnie we Bust.

There is no reason to trade Nate if we don’t get a pick. Period. End of story.

Biggie I feel u on Nate, but you gotta be realistic Nate and Mike do not get along so Donnie did what he could as fast as he could to get Nate out of NY. Now as far as Landry and Lee come on, you know what lets not make any trade and tell teams that hey you want JJ you gotta take him straight up becuase he is that good (sarcasm) becuase we want to keep all our picks and players and when free agency hits Lebron can see we got such a great mixture of players that he will be sooo excited to play with. (smh)

Woj says Kings trade T-Cap, er, T-Mac to Knicks…

…and Sergio

What have we given them…???

You are obviously forgetting the premium we need to pay to clear jeffries’ salary.

It might be hard for you to understand but Kevin Martin is an elite guard in this league. He’s injury prone, but when healthy he can be your primary scorer on a championship team. One of the hardest things that the Rockets struggle with is scoring points, so getting Martin was huge for them.

I hear that D’Antoni told Walsh to get Nate off the team at all costs after Nate f-bombed the coach in the Kings game.

And when I say “I hear”, I mean “I think.”

Yahoo!
Got what we needed!!

Way to go Donnie. Now just sign LBJ and whomever he wants on this team and we are ready for the NY basketball Renaissance!!

Thank you Donnie. A new day has come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL (Now I can get back to work)

Can we trade Lee to the Celtics or Magic for someone?
We need the Celtics or Magic to beat Cleveland.

Any word on a Harrington trade?
For a PG perhaps?

The main problem with lee is that he has power to veto any trade right now because of the one year deal the Knicks signed him as a RFA.

Thank you Donnie…well played. If only Fat Eddy wasn’t such a POS and waste of life then we would really be sitting pretty. But, if you told me in 2008 that Donnie would be able to rid this team of every awful contract put in place by Isiah I’m not sure I would have believed it. I don’t even count Curry b/c he is so worthless that trying to trade him is probably a waste of time. Props to Donnie though, sticking to his guns and giving me hope on July 1st. Love him for this.

Saves Knicks about 2mill.

IN DONNIE WE TRUST!!!!

Wait a minute… According to Marc Stein on ESPN.com, Hill was also traded… which is it? Do we have Hill still or not?!?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4924836

So, in sum?

We give up: Hughes, 2012 1st rd, 2011 swap, Jeffries

For: T-Mac and Sergio’s ECs

Good/great deal for us. I don’t love giving up picks, but I’d rather keep Hill than the 2012 pick. Nice job of holding onto Hill.

Now about that Nate trade…

I am still not a big fan of giving up hill without gettin t. thomas, although i guess i still support this trade.

But Yahoo and Hahn are reporting that we didn’t have to give up hill, while ESPN is reporting that we did. whats the truth??

we all as new yorkers commend you for what you have done donnie!

Ugh, we gave up Hill, too.

getting rid of that idiot clown nate robinson,is the smartest thing that donnie has ever done.this will improve the teams I.Q.by 75

OK- Just confirmed that S-Rod is in the deal to us.
This makes us much stronger for the remainder of the season.
A ton to give up, but worth it if we score big this summer.

Houston made out like a bandit.
Not so sure about Sac.

Knick Lineup:
PG S-Rod
SG T-Mac
SF Chandler
PF Gallo
C Lee

Bench
Harrington
House
Giddens
Douglas
Landry
Bender

Bummed about Thomas — would have been a great addition.

Thursday, 1:21 p.m. — McGrady now a Knick

The New York Knicks, Houston Rockets and Sacramento Kings have reached an agreement on a complicated three-team deal that will send Tracy McGrady to New York, two league sources with knowledge of the discussion told SI.com
The Kings will receive Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey from Houston and Larry Hughes from the Knicks. Houston will receive Kevin Martin, Jared Jeffries, the right to swap 2011 first-round picks with New York and a 2012 first round pick from the Knicks.
The Knicks will receive McGrady and point guard Sergio Rodriguez.
– Chris Mannix

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/02/17/trade.tracker/index.html#ixzz0fuhPZgpF
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Houston Chronicle is reporting the Jordan Hill will be a member of the Rockets.

HALLELUJIAH!!!!!!!!! Im dancing! S-Rod and T-Mac, even better of a deal than expected!

what about eddy curry why can’t we just buy him out or trade him and someone waive him like brian cardinal or big z in cle

YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!

I’m going to go take a test which i obviously was unable to study for… I pray that i return to confirmation that Hill was not included.

And by the way, this whole plan has gone accordingly so far, so if it keeps going as such, there’s no reason to worry about a 2012 pick. It’s not like we’re giving it up for marbury or eddy curry, we’re giving it up for flexibility, a look at t-mac 9without commitment, and a look at a good young PG. So this is not the same as isiah’s moves, which i’m sure will be a theme on here today.

The 2011 swap could be 50-50,, and by 2012 we are supposed to be contenders, or at least close to it. If Hill was included also, than maybe this was a little bit of desperation (unless we get tyrus thomas as a replacement.) But either way, it just seems like this had to be done.

Ridiculous… Donnie held out because the Rockets were asking for too much and then gave up everything they asked for!!!

And we have to keep in mind that we originally were not getting a PG, but now we are getting a very young, very cheap one, who could prove to be a HUGE upgrade over duhon.

And not having a PG has been the problem all along, has it not?

We now have eddie house, sergio, and mcgrady as guards, as apposed to nate, hughes, and duhon.

Plus, we got rid of Jeffries. I’m hppy

But we originally weren[t getting anything beisdes T-mac.

Now we’re also getting a good PG on his rookie contract? Does that not count for anything???

wow homerun donnie walsh. I dont have to see jeffries anymore and sergio rodriguez is at least a serviceable point guard , no more duhon!

jordanchill43
Houston bound now…thanks for da love ny…time for me to get goin wit my career…stay up

ESPN has confirmed that Jordan Hill has been included in the three team trade…. http://bit.ly/99dTum

BAD DEAL

You know, aside from a PF lottery pick from last season (Jordan Hill) and after acquiring a first from Boston to lessen the blow of picks given to Houston.

Also remember, we should not suck in 2012, so our pick isn’t going to be a high pick like it’s been for the past decade.

DONNIE WALSH….YOU SEXY SON’BITCH!!!

The Kings were practically giving him away… we could have acquired him without giving up Hill

“Houston bound now…thanks for da love ny…time for me to get goin wit my career…stay up”- hills twitter

Couldn’t we have signed S-Rod this last offseason?

What are you talking about? We got an expiring contract — that’s all Sergio is. Why do you care who our guards are now? None of those guys have contracts past this year.

Our roster for next year is:

Chandler
Gallo
Curry
Douglas

That’s it. And we have a bad 2011 pick and no 2012 pick. If we don’t get two major FAs (not David Lee), this team will suck to high heaven.

I agree! The Knicks gave into all of the Rockets demands.

Sorry to see him go, but I would have still done it.

Would be nice to get and expiring and a 1st rd pic for Harrington to make up for the 2012 pick.

That’s what happens when you have little leverage.
If that was the only way to get the deal done, you have to do it. The potential upside is too good to risk it not happening.

Unless Donnie knows something we don’t (e.g. verbal “informal” commitments from LBJ and Bosh), I think this is a bad deal.

A really bad one.

Dayme. That does kind of suck.

I’m not sorry to see him go, I hated him from day one. But I do think we payed too much for cap space in 2010.

YEA I’M NOT TOOOO THRILLED, I WAS FINE GIVING UP JORDAN HILL IF WE WERE TO GET TYRUS THOMAS IN RETURN….I GUESS LEE WILL B BACK NEXT YR IF WE CAN’T GET AMARE/BOSH/BOOZER…..

Jordan Hill showed no heart whatsoever yesterday – he was pathetic. But you know he’ll become an All-Star with the Houston Rockets. It’s obvious. The Knicks better make a huge splash in the free agent market this summer, the fact that the Rockets will have the right to switch picks in 2011 reinforces the notion that it’s all about 2010. I hate Toney Douglas’ contract even more now.

Morey is a such GREAT GM by the way. McGrady = Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill and a 1st round draft pick? WOW.

Hopefully we’ll have a great team to root for next year.

Terrible deal. All we got was Sergio for a half season. They got everything else. We have four players under contract for next season (including Eddy Curry).

I still don’t see how this is a bad deal. The Knicks will now have $30+ mil in cap space this summer. They still have Chandler and Gallo, who are the real pieces to build around, and if Sergio shows something he’s in the mix. Hill was a nice project with upside, but I would rather have the cap space.

wow, terrible deal. donnie got schemed. oh well

Correct. That’s the only way it’s a good deal.

For the Knicks to sign two max free agents, they also have to renounce David Lee’s bird rights.

Can we trade for Darryl Morey?

Haha, Kenny Thomas went from being traded finally to being back on the Kings.

what about eddy curry why can’t we just buy him out or trade him and someone waive him like brian cardinal or big z in cle

i want to see toney douglas get more playing time now he has shown sparks off the bench and enjoyed watching him earlier this year

To add to my point, If Bron is brought in next season, Chandler is going to be moved to PF probably (assuming they have a person to play center), which I like. Gallo at SF, Chandler PF, Bron at Point Forward, Sergio/whoever? Just need a center and that’s a better starting 5 than anything Bron’s had to work with before. Come onnnnn now it’s a torturous wait until July…

Wow did you guys see the protections,,,we got f……on those

Draft-pick protections for HOU from @chadfordinsider: Knicks’ pick in 2011 is Top-1 protected; In 2012, Knicks’ pick is Top-5 protected

According to ESPN: Knicks pick in 2011 is Top 1 protected. In 2012 the Knicks pick is Top 5 protected

Any word on a Tyrus Thomas deal???????????????? Is he going to the bobcats or what????????????????

“Draft-pick protections for HOU from @chadfordinsider: Knicks’ pick in 2011 is Top-1 protected; In 2012, Knicks’ pick is Top-5 protected”

I second that.

top 1 protected?

what a joke.

Because he’s being a child and intentionally screwing the franchise by exercising his player option for next year (a nice $10 mil sum). I swear he’s doing it out of spite.

They already have like 33mil available this summer, how much more can they shed?

I agree, I don’t know why that couldn’t be at least top 3, because we are obviously going to end up getting the #2 pick and have to swap with Houston

Both 2011 and 2012 shouldn’t be lottery picks anyway, big deal.

Lets hope Yao Ming stays injured…..Its all about this summer my man….BIG BIG BIG GAMBLE….Kick in the door wave in the 44

If Morley had the garbage that DW has to deal with he’d do no better.

What do the Knicks have that he could’ve done a better job with?

Ty Thomas > Nate

Nate is not good enough to yield a first alone.

If Bron does not sign here, do not blame Donnie. 80% of you supported the trade according to this blog.

I guess if all things go wrong we’ll have to really stink in 2010 and prey to the lottery gods for the #1 pick.

That said, my greatest fear is:

LBJ: NO

DWade: NO

Bosh: NO

All in for Stoudemire (injury prone) and J. Johnson (good player, not star though). And just like that we’ll have no more cap, and a team capable of going to the POs, without ever winning it all.

I hate his fat ass.

a potential sixth man of the year isnt worth a first rounder but a wing player who hasnt done a thing is?

Face it the Jordan Hill pick was a disaster hes soft and has butterfingers, i dont mind giving up on him donnie walsh blew it passing up on jennings, now we can finally move on from that. The 2012 first isnt gonna be a lottery pick so we’ll live. We got the cap space now. And i personally like Sergio Rodriguez. Watch Gallinari start playing alot better with a decent point guard.

The trade does not work out on the ESPN trade machine. Kings are taking in much more than they are giving out. Woner what gives or who is missing out of the deal?

Your right K4L

If Donnie didn’t protect those picks, I don’t like the trade.
I’m more concerned with the 2012 pick than I am with the 2011 swap. At least we still have a pick in 2011.

Still an hour left.

We’ll see what happens

Also, per the Kings beat writer, the 2012 pick is protected up to 10.

I know I didn’t.

Thats what I was saying yesterday donnie should of been in Lee’s ear for a month like “look david we like you and want you on the team but if a trade for the rest of year that upgrades the team please be open to it and during there off season we can work hards on a contract to bring u back” if that aint work its like screw it help us or ride the bench!! lol

I would of loved to have traded Lee to the kings for Thompson a way better guy for us to get Ty from the bulls!!

“wonder”

I like Rodriguez, but isn’t he another small 2 guard?

Does anyone seriously think we’re going to be a lottery team in 2 years? Why is the 2012 pick a deciding factor for anyone?

Only way this trade was a good one is if the Knicks get 2 max free agents this offseason.

Exactly my thoughts. Guys are stuck in the past! this team will not suck, so the picks are irrelevant. And stop acting like Lebron is god, get off his nuts!!!! There are other players we can get.

Joe Johnson
Rudy Gay
CB4
Boozer (if miami cant get him)

We have money! and will be getting out of mediocrity. Sometimes you pay a price to get to where you wanna go!

He can’t play any D. Kings were asking for a trade exception for him a couple of days ago and Memphis passed. Now he is the starting pg on the Knicks. Typical.

From Jordan Hill’s Twitter Page

Houston bound now…thanks for da love ny…time for me to get goin wit my career…stay up
20 minutes ago from UberTwitter

Great deal!!!!

WARNING

IF WE SPEND PART OF THIS MONEY FOR LEE NEXT YEAR,
THEN SHIT ON DW. NO RINGS WITH LEE.
AND SPEND THE MONEY WISELY.
NO MORE OVERPAYING.

IN LEBRON WE TRUST

He is an asset next year because of his expiring.
We might be able to get a PG by trading his contract.

Hopefully he’ll get his fat ass into shape and give 10-15 minutes a decent play in the meantime.
Not holding my breath

And yet I would have given a trade exception with Duhon (current startgin pg) to get him off our team (if there were possible which obviously its not)

thats Rudy Fernandez.. Sergio Rodrigues is a PG..

third stringer in Sacto now our starter..

i like him and think he can help if the coach doesnt give him a green light to hoist threes

If the Chicago trade is not gonna happen, we still have an hour left. Maybe we can move Lee And Buckets for Amare. If LeBron was willing to play with him in Cleveland, then maybe he’ll see at least one major piece in place in NY. Nothing is guaranteed over the summer, so we should have at least one tier1/tier2 hybrid in place. That would also make up for the loss of Hill going into the future. Playing with Nash, Lee may average a triple double. Everybody wins.

I agree Lee is not a winning basketball player , it made me sick watching chandler who was playing great last night get in foul trouble and have to go to the bench because he had to pick up Lees defensive slack all night.

no J HILL in trade..

for a minute sactown had interest in LEE but we all know lee said hell no

good catch… Hahn recanted and said Hill is in the deal…

awful… we trade JJ, our # 8 pick, our best reserve guard, swap first rounders and give up a 2012 for no useful parts other than maybe a PG who couldnt crack the rotation in Sacto and a player who doesnt want to be here in House..

both picks should be lottery protected for 3-5 years.

We wouldn’t be able to get rid of Jeffries without giving up hill.

UMMMMMMMMM HAS ANY BODY NOTICED WE DON’T HAVE A PF ANYMORE??? LOL..

WE JUS SHIPPED OUR 2 PFS TO HOUSTON….LOL WTF???

this is why we need tyrus thomas BADLY….cause if not what we throwin out there on saturday…

duhon/s-rod/house
mcgrady/chandler
chandler/gallo
gallo/chandler/bender
lee

I Could not have said it better myself!!! +4

We have to go for LBJ and Bosh

But would we have enough to re-sign S-Rod?

PG: S-Rod
SG: LBJ
SF: Chandler
PF: Gallo
C: Bosh

Nice lineup!
LBJ would have to feel that this team could go all the way.

Maybe trade Curry’s contract at the trade deadline for a better PG.

Dumped JJ’s contract. Picked up Sergio. Congratulations Donnie Walsh. Good job.

The plan was to get under the cap to get studs. No reason to think we can’t. When was the last time NY had cap space to spend?

and tossed in two number one pics.. and swapped another.

From Berger

It cost the Knicks a premium price to clear Jeffries’ $6.9 million contract off the 2010-11 books. But doing so all but accomplished the goal team president Donnie Walsh set out to achieve when he came to New York — become a major player in the 2010 free-agent class, recognized by all involved as potentially the best in NBA history. By shedding Jeffries, Walsh will have only four players under contract for ’10-’11 — Eddy Curry, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, and Toney Douglas. The Knicks are a Curry buyout away from having the space to sign two max players. If those free agents prefer the sign-and-trade route — which would get them more money and an extra year — the Knicks are positioned to accommodate that as well.

Nate was definitely enough to get a 1st round pick IMO. Playing on Boston’s desperation to get more scoring off the bench was the play here (not saying that DW didn’t play it like that, I have no idea).
Thomas is gone to the Cats, Al will be staying. Hill and JJ are most likely leaving. We lost size and D in those big men, including our 8th pick, whether it was the appropriate or not (not saying we lost scoring, please beware of that).
Don’t really know who our “big men” will be now.
Wow.

they’ve sucked to high heaven for almost 10 years now….so i’ll take my chances with the free agents.

He had a team of superstars last year?? No he did not he made the right trades and had vision to take players nobody cared about and allowed them to grow and become a very solid team!

But I would take Jerry West since Morley is busy building a winner from scratch! lol

Lol the Knicks are going to get murdered in the paint!!! Its going to be painful to watch. At least we improves at PG and SG…

Protected pick in 2012

You forgot that

harrington can play pf

Still got 45 minutes to go

Stay patient

Agree 100%…all those crying about Jordan Hill should check on him in 3 years and see if you still care that he’s gone….i’m guessing you won’t.

Perfect! Just flop Gallo & Chandler (Chandler’s strength will make him a much better PF than Gallo).

Looks like Knicks are going to hold onto Harrington. He will probably be their PF.

Just saying… U know how good our team would be if we whiffed on the top 3 options and got stoudemire and joe johnson? teamed up with Gallo and Chandler + whomever we got to play the point? We’d be a playoff team with home court next season. so everyone should just breathe a HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF!!!

PF might be the best for Chandler. He’s big enough & strong enough and would cause mismatches on the offensive end.

CAN WE ATLEAST GET BRIAN COOK FROM HOUSTON AS A FKN THROW IN???LOL…

we need a pf baddddddddddd….lolol…….

speak for yourself

ill wait to hear it officially.. i expect FULL lottery protection for at least 3 years on that pick

Why would you expect that Biggie?

Full lottery protection?

Come on man.

Biggie,

Why are you so freakin’ hung up on the picks that are going to come in the end of the first round (where we can literally buy picks anyway)? We’re not a crap team next season or in 2012. Our best reserve guard that doesn’t play? Our #8 pick that is going to take years to get it, if he ever does?

wow i didnt realize we play the celtics on tuesday , cant wait to see what nate has in store for us. I heard mayo was on the block. Donnie should find a way to bring the juice monster to new york this summer.

If the Knicks can’t sign Lebron this trade will be up there with the Curry and Marbury deals. Maybe not as bad, but pretty close.

- Only four players under contract for next year (one of whom is Eddy Curry).

- No 2012 1st.

- A bad 2011 1st.

- A lot of teams with more talent (Chicago, Clippers, Nets, Miami) competing with us for free agents.

I can’t see how this is a good situation.

Yup. It seems Hill is leaving (Houston looks like the big winner) as well with JJ and Al stays. No picks for N8.
That’s just wrong. Too much to give up I say. Who are our big men now?
Curry? Yeah, right. Lee? Plenty of D presence there.
You would’ve thought DW would try to keep his 8th pick. I’m not talking about admitting his mistake in the draft or getting more cap space, but I’m talking about the lack of me this team will have now.
Nice…

Yes, in that it will have compromised the team for 1-2 years. The only way this is a good deal is if:

- LeBron or Wade sign
- Another good guy (Bosh/Johnson/Felton) signs (not Lee!)
- AND T-Mac is pretty good and signs for supercheap for us

LMFAO
Good to know we can still laugh at moments of utter desperation

they got bender or is he a S.G?

I cannot wait until Houston doesn’t even switch picks next year because they have a worse record, and in 2012 we are giving up a 25th+ pick. Too bad we have to wait 2 years for people to realize those picks aren’t going to be lottery picks.

they woulda had chandler and gallo even if they didnt make this dopey trade

Donnie “Basketball” Walsh. Man of his word.

Bender’s been on the team. He is god awful.

They already have the space for two max contracts – even with Curry on the squad. That was the point of the T-Cap trade.

Hill is owed $2,669,520 in 2010. This is why he was included in the deal. Hill being included allows the Knicks to have $35,217,096 to spend this summer. After 2 Max contracts are signed we will still need to fill out the roster. Donnie should try to move Douglas(maybe with Lee or another expiring) and give us another $1,071,000 to play with. That would give us $36,288,096 to use this summer.

top 10 protected

When will Tmac play? I have tix for Sat night

Yeah, that would last a couple of years… then what?

I’d rather wait on CP3 or Carmello in that scenario.

its top 10 protected

The Knicks could end up with a lineup of:

PG: S Rod
SG: Wade
SF: Gallo
PF: Chandler
C: Bosh

How could you compare that to Curry and Marbury?

any1 wants to predict t-macs number’s?

i’ll say
15-20pts
3-6 assists
3-6 rbs

thats if he doesn’t want a buyout..

Gents, 2 quick points:

S Rod has a 2.8mm q/o next year. Look at it as J.Hill for S.Rod. Pf for pg.

For all intents and purposes the Knicks can now offer 2 max deals. Might take a Curry buyout, may not…either way if LeBron wants to come to NY he can choose who he wants to play with…

Tim Grover, McGrady’s trainer: “Put him in a uniform and get him out there. He’s ready.”

Should be fun to watch.

Bingo.

- That is what we wanted anyway so I don’t see the issue there

- Yes that sucks and odds are due to the top 3 protection we will probably have to ship the 4th pick

-20th pick the latest which isn’t great but far from terrible. We aren’t talking about the Lakers here, and depending on how Yao comes back the Rockets aren’t a lock for the playoffs next year

-Yes but that was always going to be the issue, all we have is NY

-could be worse, we could no hope

most likely 2 -4 days from now..
but i heard he wants to play when curry returns..

is eddy curry ever going to try and play this year… i never hear any updates about him..if we get rid of him than we have the best shot at getting lebron if lebron wants to leave…
-he wont go to miami cause wade will be their and he wants more rings than wade
-he wont go to clippers b/c their the clippers
-why go to chicago and be in the shadow of jordan?
-and the nets..only jay-z can bring him

He will be a sports icon in NY..and he know it!
Its either Cleveland or New York, period!

if the knicks happen to have INJURIES,we will be a lotto pick and it will go to houston

donnie should ask LEE to name some teams he would like to be traded to
then call up those teams an ask what are they willing to give up for LEE

It seems he WAS included. Too bad, Morey and Ainge compeletely seized upon the smell of desperation for cap space that DW had (not getting a pick for Nate is ridiculous IMO). Morey is definitely the big winner here.
Seeing Gallo at the 4 will be painful. He’s not strong or fast enough to defend the post yet. That’s an injury waiting to happen on his first attempt at taking a charge and falling on his back. Good luck to him.
Glad that JJ is gone. Still think it was way too much and that Hill could’ve brough more to the table with time and patience.

So now Landry (who I like a lot) is officially off to Boston with Nate, while DJ Augustin is close to being traded to Indiana for TJ Ford… Not sure how I feel about today… Why not try for Augustin??

What’s the 8/9 man rotation that we are putting out there next year that makes us good? All we have now is Chandler, Curry, Gallo and Douglas. What five players can you get with $31-32m (our space after minimums to 3 other bench guys). Show me.

If Lebron signs then it was worth it , if Wade signs and those other things happen it was worth it. If they don’t sign either, and end up with two 2nd tier FA’s, we can expect another 4-5 years of mediocrity.

Or, he can trade Curry’s expiring deal for someone…

The Knicks will need to renounce S. Rod as you call him to sign two max free agents…

I like the trade, but it will all come down to this summer now. I say a chance to sign 2 max free agents is worth it, and I have been seeing some bad things from Hill lately. This trade could end up being a disaster tough…Hil becomes good player, we strike out in fa and be a lottery team, and no picks. Also could be a great trade though. Have to wait and see.

I’d trade Hill for Sergio Rodriguez any day of the week.

ESPN’s John Hollinger put it best “(Rodriguez) is going to kill in D’Antoni’s system”.

I’ve been pulling for Spanish Chocolate to NY since the 2007 draft.

This is inconsequential because David Lee is not going to be making anywhere near the max.

It seems there’s no pick for Nate. Remember that.

Tks

Then why the hell did we draft him in the first place. WTF

I amended to include a possible scenario with Wade but it isn’t likely. Chicago has the cap space with better pieces in place.

Have you seen some of the garbage squads Bron/Wade have brought to the playoffs? Take four of us commenters with Bron and we’re an 8 seed. Basically, I’m assuming we sign one or the other (and let’s face it, there’s no reason we shouldn’t) and then we’re instantly a good team with a SuperDuperstar (bron/wade) then a Tier 2 guy (Boozer/Johnson/Amare), 2 young studs (gallo/wilson), trade Curry’s expiring for a PG, douglas backs up and you have an awesome starting 5. Since you ahve to account for minimum salaries for roster spots before calculating cap space, fill the roster with guys who want to play for cheap and win titles.

Your lineup is not possible. Look at the numbers:

PG: S Rod – $3.2m (he has a q offer)
SG: Wade – $16.5m (max)
SF: Gallo – $3.3m
PF: Chandler – $2.1m
C: Bosh – $16.5m

Curry $11.3m
Douglas $1.1m
That’s already $54+m — the cap is only going to be $53 AND we need to fill the team with 5 more players.

Okay lets be real about all this…

1) Wade has not and will not ever be an option! He will be second fiddle to nobody! A star in his own right and the only other team with a legit shot at Wade are his home town bulls where Rose can be the robin to his batman

2)The cav’s play the best Dee in the league! They have just upgraded with a trade that almost guaranteed there playing Kobe & them for the ring for the the next 2 years.

3) With those to off the list your telling me screwing up 2 lottery picks trading away a few more to trade JJ was worth it for ether of the group of Bosh,Gaye,Boozer or the like? really??

It’s LBJ or this was all bull$h!t!!

That team would barely be a playoff team with Joe Johnson, Amare, Gallo, and Chandler and no draft picks and no PG.

If we can get rid of Harrington, that would be great.

Not sure who’s available but Harrington needs to go in my opinion.

Show me the math. And show me who will give up a good PG for Eddy Curry. Show me.

Let’s just see the official word on the picks. Some have said 2012 could be top-10 protected.

Yeah that is because Tommy voted 264 times.

If you read the comments very few were supporting this trade as proposed.

No way D’antoni benches duhon for Sergio.

He should, but no way he will.

Obviously Bosh would have to make less $ in order to go after titles.

DW should but I think Lee is the fallback plan if any of the big 3 doesn’t sign here.

what?

Uhh, all that is if Lebron or Wade sign. People are acting as though it’s a done deal. Hopefully it is, but if it isn’t we’re gonna suck.

“We’re not a crap team next season or in 2012″

And you know this because?

Typical salty, negative Knicks fan. How about we talk about who is going to want $10 million coming off the books? *cough* NEW ORLEANS *cough*

“The Boston Celtics have reached a tentative agreement on a deal with the New York Knicks to send Eddie House, J.R. Giddens and Bill Walker to New York for Nate Robinson and a second player, according to multiple sources. The identity of the second New York player was not immediately clear. ”

WOW, BILL WALKER N JR GIDDENS??? YEA that’s equivalent to a late first rounder anyway……i’ll take that….both are athletic as fk…lol, should be fun to watch for the rest of the yr, if we play them of course….

I WONDER WHO’S THE SECOND PLAYER WE’RE SHIPPING TO BOSTON…i’ll assume either bender or landry…more than likely landry tho…

UMMMM NETHING ON TYRUS THOMAS YET…..is it confirmed him to char?? cause shittttttttttt we STILL NEED A PF…lol..

Uh huh. Notice how you didn’t mention anything about the bench.

S-Rod is not a starting caliber PG, and Bosh is not a center.

My point is, we are going to try to lure Lebron here with no real supporting cast and no draft picks.

Man this is all or nothing.

Landry

The Knicks could buyout Curry and save a couple mil. Plus that is what teams are preparing for, but the cap could be a little bit higher.

Um,

If Wade came here he’s the #1 guy, not sure where you get 2nd fiddle from.

They just upgraded with a guy who is almost 34 years old and plays PF, though he hates to rebound and play inside.

I wouldn’t say anyone is “off the list”

So you want the Suns to become the worst defensive team in history?

Bosh is a center in this system.

Knicks 7.5 games out of 8 spot. I think S-Rod helps right away and if (IF!) T-Mac is ready to go…just saying, it’s possible.

Via Twitter

Top 5

And like the the guy above said, Wade and Bosh could both take a little less than max. They would make it up with endorsements anyway.

“No real info but Harrington is still in play…not sure if Walsh is done.”

Have to get rid on another 2010 contract. Maybe Douglas? Get it done Donnie. Then buy out Eddy Curry for 9 million and save a few more mill(wishful thinking).

Via Wojo

Charlotte and Indiana is close, but sources say not done. FIve players for now, including Ford and Rush for Augustine, Henderson and Nazr.

How is Henderson getting just thrown around like this?

“It’s LBJ or this was all bull$h!t!!”

That is my sentiment all along.

I don’t even like D-Wade that much (don’t kill me).

We’re spending that money on somebody. They’re going to be good. Who it is? No idea. Are we going to be a playoff team? Yep.

Lol @ Wade taking the less than the max

Mediocrity would be an improvement, though obviously i know what you are saying and agree

cmon mike, lol, i know ur not shedding a tear for landry now….lol…trust, walker and giddens are BOTH better than landry, and some of the most athletic guys in the nba….dnt b surprised if walker wins the slam dunk title next yr…lol..

That trade won’t really be talked about, but that’s a good one.

NO is going to trade Chris Paul for Eddie Curry? Are you joking. And we can’t even throw in a 1st round pick unitl 2014 because we traded them all . . .

lol, good looks caine, jus peeped that when i refreshed…lol.

I’d rather hold onto Curry and trade his expiring than save just $1 mil by buying him out.

Walker vs. Nate for Slam Dunk Title?

So then why did we draft Hill at all?

If the concern was the salary the 8th pick was making why did the knicks not just trade the pick this summer for a #1 in 2012.

That is a bullsh*t excuse for Donnie’s poor planning and drafting.

I obviously don’t think that will happen. But Mr. Happy up there is getting all pissy and saying “show me show me show me” so i showed him an example of a team who would want to trade a big contract to save $. Do I think that’s even plausible? Of course not.

13 ppg

4 ast

5 reb

32 % fg

WTF indeed… thus my dislike for him and what he represents.

we should have looked into trading Lee, harrington n douglas for amare and barbosa….

Show me an example that is plausible.

………because at the time they didn’t think they’d need to trade him to move Jeffries? What kind of point is that? Yes, hindsight is always 20/20.

If you don’t know who it is, how do you know we will be a playoff team?

If it is Felton and Joe Johnson we are NOT making the playoffs.

If it is Johnson and Boozer we are NOT making the playoffs.

What system?

How is that hindsight?

They tried to trade Jeffries all of last year they knew the difficulty in trading him. They were willing to trade Hill because he was a bust.

Okay flanz0 lets try this again, the idea that was being thrown around was to get lebron and pair him with another superstar from the FA class!! The only other superstar is Wade the rest are just stars! So the point is Wade would never play with Lebron and be 2nd fiddle in NYC.

Also if you want to talk about no LBJ and just getting Wade he has pretty much crapped on ever playing in NY in more then one interview. Your day daydreaming if you think Wade is coming here. He loves it in Miami and is trying to press the heat to upgrade the same way Kobe did the Lakers! The only other team he would play for is his hometown Bulls where Rose would be his pippen to his Jordan!

Saw somewhere that if Warriors stay desperate to get rid of Maggette in offseason him for Curry works nice and even saves us some money. Maggette though way overpaid would be a solid contributor to have as a complimentary to the hopeful stars we get

Why would PHX do that?

Amare is a much better player than Lee on both sides of the ball.

They are both free agents this summer too.

Maggette is a ball hog. Think Harrington x10.

From Bill Simmons’ twitter:

“Serious question for @dmorey – were you wearing a black ski mask and holding a gun when you made that Knicks trade?”

I could not agree more.

I ask again how do we do biz with the kings and not expanded it to get Thompson??? A 2mil legit post player we could of taken with us on the way out!! Geeez!

Not sure you can label either player as better than the other on defense, seeing how neither of them actually play on that end.

Yes, but Maggette can actually play good D, when he wants to. Maggette is probably the type of contract we could get for Curry. The only players we can get for Curry will be the HUGE MISTAKE contracts. It’s not a pretty picture.

lmaoooo I think he just waited for the alzheimer’s to kick in and then had his way with him!! lol

No. The plan is to get Lebron. Let’s not talk around the subject. If they don’t get Lebron, anything else is a consolation prize. You get Bron and you pair him with a guy like Bosh/Joe Johnson/Amare/Boozer, guys who will take slightly less $ to play with the best player on earth and chase championships for a decade.

He loves it in Miami? Really!? He loves playing on crap teams year after year in front of a 1/2 filled stadium? Yeah, I just see the lovefest growing alllllll day long.

Wow…a Boston grown Knick Hater hating on the Knicks following through with their plan (which has been the plan since DW got here). Shocking. Trent, I hear the Nets are looking for some fans, they can’t even fill 1/10th of their arena these days.

I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s because the Kings weren’t getting anything that good to them other than cap relief? They’re going to trade their budding young stud down low for…………….Hughes?

You are the guy that said that New Orleans will trade Chris Paul for Eddy Curry this summer.

They where trying to trade him earlier this season and there stud down low is there center who Thompson plays behind (Spencer Hawes)

Amare is no D. Howard but he does get critical blocks.

I would take Amare on D over Lee anyday

Please repost where I said that to prove you did not just make that crap up!! Cause I never said trade EC for CPR I said see if in a salary dump they would take Gallo,Hill,TD,JJ,EC & all the picks we are giving Houston for CP3 & Stojakovic!! Yea as in a feeler to see what reply you get seeing as the math is

CP3 & Stojakovic= over 31mil
while
JJ & EC=18mil for one more year that leaves them with over 10mil in the cash for the 2011 off season and gets us the PG we never had! So dont misquote me to attempt to sound smart!

Not you — Flanz0. I was responding to him, not you. If I was responding to you it would have shown as one indent, not two indents, in from your comment.

K4L- we are on the cusp this year of a playoff spot. Add two all stars and we barely make it? come on son… you are brighter than that.