Knicks 118 Wiz 116

“Washington missed seven of its eight field goal attempts in overtime.”

Be careful Tommy, you wouldn’t want anybody here to give credit to the defense. Apparently our coach doesn’t preach it enough.

“Nick Young’s 3-pointer with 6.4 seconds remaining in overtime – Washington’s only basket in the extra five minutes – made it 116-all.”

They’ll probably want to talk about that instead because our coach didn’t foul with us up by 3.

Let the hate begin in 5,4,3,2,1………………………

David Lee…..WOW!

You know I’m really starting to think that signing two max guys isn’t the smartest way to go. Not that I’ll be mad to have two prime talents on the Knicks by any means but if we could sign one max guy we could bring David Lee, Tracy McGrady, Al Harrington, Sergio Rodriguez, Bill Walker and Eddie House back. Thats not a bad team at all. I like this new crew.

Ughhh You Cant Tell me there isn’t a D-league Center we could sign that wouldn’t help us out…
Alexis Ajinca? (Can we sign him?),

Let’s not get carried away now.was just one win over a bad Washington squad!!!!

danni boy is the worse coach in basketball period

ItzyunItzyoungg…. Just can’t sign just anyone.why waste time and money on a player who won’t be back next season. Besides if AlexIs was any good he’d be on some NBA roster

I’m not a hater, but I don’t understand the logic not to give the foul when you have the foul to give. In the replay you could see that there was a very easy opportunity to foul and force a more difficult play with less time on the clock. This has to be taught to the players. If done correctly it can win the game. I don’t get it. Do you?

Check this out…..let the NY bashing by Cleveland begin. They’ll do anything to keep Lebron a Cav. Can’t really blame them though.

On his Twitter page, Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that the Cavs have drawn up a couple of new plays to incorporate Antawn Jamison into their offense.

He then says that the Knicks — whom the Cavs play next — will not know about the new plays because coach Mike D’Antoni “can’t be bothered with advance scouting.”

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/65020/20100226/dantoni_doesnt_use_advance_scouting/#ixzz0ghp5cum8

I’m just saying playa.

I’m not sure a max player wants to come to that line up. They lost 3 out of 4 and had a game where they only scored 67 points.

where did we sign mase & Starks from did we get them from the D-league? I think we did but im not sure…

Sure I do.

If you watch during the end of that time out when they were heading onto the floor. You can actually see D’Antoni telling Chandler to play it smart. The camera is right on him and you can actually see it with your own 2 eyes. He says “play it smart”

Check it out on the Knicks in 60 playa.

LMAO I thought we where the only blog who could see through MD!!!!

anyway as for D-league big men……The Mavericks are reportedly bringing in Austin Toro Dwayne Jones for a look. Jones has been arguably the best big man in the league this season, averaging 16.8 points and 15.4 rebounds a game, which is kind of a lot. Dallas is looking to add depth after the loss of Erik Dampier to injury.

“Play it smart?”

That’s coaching ??

You’re missing my point. I believe that “playing it smart” is to give the foul when you get the opportunity to give it. Make them inbound the ball again and force them to set up a 2nd play with less time. We had the foul to give. There was no excuse for the coach or players not to use it correctly.

“Play it smart?” is just dumb as an instruction, as is this coach generally. But I believe the rational for not using a foul to give is that it can (rarely) be called an intentional foul.

“The Mavericks are reportedly bringing in Austin Toro Dwayne Jones for a look. Jones has been arguably the best big man in the league this season, averaging 16.8 points and 15.4 rebounds a game, which is kind of a lot. Dallas is looking to add depth after the loss of Erik Dampier to injury.”

The Mavs are trying to fill out their team as they are on the verge of a title run. You can never have enough big men to use fouls against the likes of Gasol, Bynum, Duncan, Amare, Boozer, Okur….they’re actually going about it the right way but the Lakers are just a better team. Much more difficult to beat them 4 games out of 7.

Captain Haterade vs. the Kool-aid Kid.

Round 1…

FIGHT!

““Play it smart?” is just dumb as an instruction, as is this coach generally.”

Of course it is playa….

Why don’t you bless us all with what you would’ve told Chandler. Would you have run out there and actually fouled Young yourself?

Just kidding playa….but please enlighten us.

My point was that there are hard working bigs (not stars but bigs) who can help a team by doing there part

‘m cool with all of that except Harrington. i would let him play for the knicks next year under any circumstances. i would take Lee for 8 or 9 mil per. T-mac for about 5 mil per. House and sergio 2 mil per apiece. and we have Walker’s option for under 1 mil. Add LBJ or Wade to that, plus gallo and Chandler hopefully get Camby.

title contenders. better than Cleveland

*wouldn’t let him play

we sure did

The Knicks drove to the hoop more, I that made a big difference. Weren’t great from 3pt land but at least they kept it under 20 attempts. Rebounding was better too. House couldn’t hit the broad side of J.Lo’s ass but managed to grab some long boards.

The Knicks still need help inside, it’s ridiculous to keep going with half a center and wingy PFs

Who was the last D-Leaguer to get a guaranteed contract from the Knicks?

lmao

starks came from the cba signed with the warriors an ended up with the knicks if i’m correct

Big win tonight. Good for Lee…If he wants to at least truly be an elite offensive player he has to be clutch like that every night, even though he disappeared the entire overtime up until that. Really liked what I saw from Tmac and Gallo and his 4 blocks. Our favorite TMNT had a great game…but as usual he almost blew it for us down the stretch. Gallo needs more touches flat out…if only Coach D. would call some curl plays for him to get open lanes to drive and create. Did everyone see our favorite Mr. Intangibles in Houston…2 pts, 3 rbs, 4 fouls, and a -8 in 9 minutes. Thats our boy, delivering all sorts of intangibles to ensure wins for his team. Hey they won the game, so good for them. JJ getting the job done.

honestly, Coaching in the NBA is not really all that important when compared to the importance of having great players. there is really a couple of difference making coaches. Larry Brown, Greg Popevich, any others?

Put it this way, The Pistons of 04 was the only team in the last 30 years or so who won a title without a top 5 guy. Great players make winning teams.

NBA coaches are more like overpaid ego masseuses.

Playa. Is that your new word of the week? Mom let you watch MTV tonite?

lmao…

So you’re saying those Pistons played alone? They had no type of offensive set up and didn’t play any kind of defensive system? They just did their thing while Brown watched the game and played therapist…. Interesting theory.
C’mon. A dismantled Wizards pulled 116 points over this team. That ain’t right by any standards. There needs to be a guy that involves every player on offense, because surely that isn’t this team’s way of scoring. Let’s not even talk about D, because it’s non existent.
Look at Gallo, the man is slowly fading away into bball history because our coach doesn’t know how to exploit his skills. He looks like a child with no confidence for someone who’s supposed to be the “face of the future”. The guy was what? 4-5 from the field? Nothing. Why didn’t he get the ball more? That’s the coach’s call. He’s supposed to be part of our “core”. Wilson had a poor game by his own standards. By being part of a set up made up of running pick & rolls mixed with player taking it to the hoop surrounded by the other team while his own teammates are standing passively on the perimeter. Not a lot of variety there. Just because D’antoni isn’t “all there” in the Knick’s coaching process justifies saying that coaches are just “ego masseuses”.

This is just silly. Why is reasoned basketball analysis “hate”.

The Knicks have repeatedly lost games they should have won, and D’ANtoni lost playoff games in PHX because they did not foul when they either (1) had one to give or (2) were up three with less than 15 seconds to go. You foul and make it a free throw contest. You don’t put it in the hands of the worst defensive team in the league and perhaps in history (ok a bit of an overstatment but not by much).

D’Antoni needs to start learning from his mistakes or we will lose these games regardless of who the players are.

My God, why cant we ever have a win where i dont have to bite my fingernails, jeeze…. but all in all a decent win which was big for the knicks even if they r at 20 wins, my favorite TMNT did pretty well until the stupid ass missed those huge free throws

Another show casing for david lee why he is an allstar and 100 percent deserved it, just pissed me off why tmac didnt play the rest of the game i no hs minutes were up or whatever but come on coach, at least let him have one over time, until tmrw enjoy the win

Bro, i said Brown is one of those rare difference making coaches. That was a well coached team with great chemistry. the Spurs are also a very well coached team. Difference making coaches are very very rare these days.

gallo needs to find a way to get to the rim so he can have space to get his shot off. I like him a lot better at the 4. he just is not quick enough to take 3′s off the dribble consistently. But maybe he just needs to learn how to get guys off balance with head fakes like dirk. The kid is still young. He will get better.

there are a lot of good coaches out there, Adleman, Van Gundy, Karl. But you need a top flight player to really contend.

Players must execute. I want to see what DA does with a real team before i call him some of the names people in here call him.

They drove more, yes, but I want to see variation on offense (I don’t even talk about D ’cause it’s clear there isn’t interest). If we have an offensive genius for a coach, I would love to see this team smartly rotating the ball with fluidity, setting multiple picks to get multiple open shots here and there. We can’t depend on the pick & roll and me against the world drives to the hoop always. I appreciate the effort to get the W, I really do. But is it too much to ask, considering we ain’t playing D, to ask for a team to have multiple ways of getting an open look?
It’s not about hating, but Mike hasn’t really gotten the max out of this roster.
I see Gallo and it saddens me because the guy’s gonna end up with bball depression looking for a new sport. His coach won’t let him play. I don’t get it. I swear, whatever happens next year, My patience will be more than thin for D’antoni, because whatever happens, he’ll have “his players”.

I said this in the last thread but tonight wasn’t a good win.

No way we should go into overtime and almost double overtime against a team as bad as the Wizards without any of their star players and several guys sitting down the stretch.

At their maximum I thought this team could win 36 games. Right now I’m not even sure we will reach 30 and Mike D looks like he has thrown in the towel.

Silentjay I agree with your gallo point. MDA doesn’t call anything for him then says that gallo has to be more agressive. Gallo was 4 of 5 tonight if I’m correct. Be even Took the ball to the hole a lot more than usual. Gallo has game but MDA isn’t nurturing it

Good move by the Mavs. Not sure why the Knicks didn’t do it.

I guess D’antoni is giving Walker a look.

Never thought D’Anonti would really bench Duhon for this long.

My bad then. I do think there are coaches that make a difference, but imo pretty much every coach in the nba has the capacity to make their teams set up for them on both ends of the court the way he sees fit.
Gallo needs to find a way to get to the rim, I agree. How about our coach draws a play so he can. I think Gallo follows orders to the dot, hence he never finds the ball. This is a very unfair and ridiculous comparison but take a look at Dallas and the multiples plays they set up for Dirk so he can take it to the hoop, go for 18 footer or even take a 3. How about one for Gallo?
On your last point, players must execute, but if a decent play isn’t made for them, how can they? We’ve been primary witnesses that last minute calls aren’t D’antoni’s strength. He doesn’t know how to set up key plays at the right moment. If you have players who can execute (Lee, T Mac, even Chandler or Gallo), do them a favor and make a play where they get the ball with some liberty.

Thrown in the towel?? naaa he ties the towel around his eyes during defensive drills so he cant thrown it in just yet lol

Stay Patient My Friends

On point tonight Silent Jay. I couldn’t have said it any better man. Ill give him credit for the last play tonight, but down the stretch he has to call some plays to get the right people the ball. The offense too often reverts to standard 2 man pick and rolls between point and center and then everyone else just standing around. Maybe that works with Nash who can shoot the lights out and is a big time clutch player, but it sure as heck won’t work with Sergio as the pg. I like him, but hes not the player who should have the ball there, as was the same case with Chris Suckhon. He needs to find a way to work Gallo in specifically, especially when he is having success driving the ball, which opens up the rest of his game.

Tank you. This italian’s supposed to be the future. He’s shown he can block, imo he’s a pretty good defender, he’s got a sweet stroke (not much of lately) and with his size he can evolve into a great PF. Just needs to work on his speed and bulk up.
But if the coach who advocated for him doesn’t really get him involved, his game will fade. He didn’t take one three pointer today, did he? I’m not sure. He’s smart enough to work on his post offense and defense during the summer as well as his 18 footer. He still needs to develop that shot in transition. At his age, he’s got nothing but time. When he’s got enough strength in his legs to leave his man behind, we’ll be in business, granted he ever gets the ball.
Gallo’s an example of how D’antoni’s offensive knowledge isn’t as great as advertised.

I agree. Maybe Mike’s saving his playbook for next year, but it wold be nice for us fans to see the whole team play and not just 2. If you take a look, after they run the pick and Lee gets to the basket, how many open player does he have? On the drives to the hoop, how many where standing wide open on the perimeter? How about some ball rotation to keep the other teams D on their feet?
Sergio is a decent enough player. There won’t be many PG’s to choose from come summer, so it might be a good idea to keep him. What bothers me is that I don’t really expect to see much more from him since this team’s offensive set up doesn’t really require a high IQ and court vision, so in all these games left, we really won’t see how much he’s really got.

Defensive drills? Mike does that in practice? No way….
lol
Tonight was an awful win. It was more like a moral victory for Lee to start getting acustomed to clutch shots if he wants to take his offensive game to the next level. It’s not like his D is going anywhere.

Agreed. We need a big guy ready to come on from the bench. At least have someone 10 days with the team. Gallo, albeit he doesn’t get much action, still won’t survive the rest of the season playing all those minutes.But it’s good that he plays as a PF this whole time to understand what he needs to improve over the offseason if he wants a starting job as a 4. Bulk up, get some speed and mobility on those legs, learn how to work the post, develop that perimeter shot. It’s not that much. Lol. He’s got nothing but time.
T Mac showed what he’s got, and it was smart to reduce his minutes (can’t believe I’m saying this coach did a smart thing), and when he’s ready to assume more minutes, it’ll be fun to see what he decides to do with his game considering his physical limitations.

Wow. I think we saw 2 different games. I think the offense vastly improved this game. There were a lot more picks and ball movement, especially later in the game. I distinctly remember a few plays with multiple high screens and picks. I really have no idea what you’re talking about. The offense has been far from perfect but it’s been a lot more solid compared to the previous 8 games. Only 18 3pa and 33 fta. I’ll take it.

And what exactly does it mean that the coach won’t let Gallo play? He got 40+ minutes and has been starting when he arguably doesn’t deserve it. He doesn’t run plays for Gallo but that’s hardly not letting him play. If Gallo wants the ball more he should call for it and start hitting hit 3′s. Gallo is getting solid playing time, when it comes to confidence the onus is on him, not the coach. The kid is just hitting a wall like a lot of youngsters. It’s nothing to get worked up about.

But you’re right about the defense, it’s so pathetic it’s not worth bringing up.

Gallo may be floundering lately but he had 4 blocked shots
vs the washington generals.

im going to the game tomarrow, lets hope our knickerbockers can pull off another win. Tonight was a crazy game and fun to watch but it felt like the knicks were trying to lose at times, …

To be fair, this Wizards squad (yes, sans Jamison, Butler and Arenas) did take down Denver and Chicago recently. They’re scrappy, don’t sleep on them.

second look for jones?
thought they looked at him already

Larry Brown had Billups who might be the best floor leader in the game other than Kobe and KG.

DVJ, I’m going to start calling you the kool-aid man because all you do is advertise the good stuff. How about being fair and balanced and seeing both sides to the story?

It’s on D’Antoni to tell his players to play smart, but its another thing to teach them how to play smart. In the end of the 4th, with the inbounds pass going to Mcghee who had his back to the basket beyond the three point line, YOU FOUL. No ands, ifs, or buts about it. That is your best opportunity because he is not a good free throw shooter to begin with. Plus its crunch time, his nerves must be a factor as well.

The Knicks need Clyde as special consultant because Allan Houston is not getting it done. Herb Williams, Phil Weber, Dan D’Antoni, none of them are helping out. I’m not even blaming MD anymore because it is quite clear – due to his inability to coach crunch time here in NY adaquately – that he was just the puppet behind Steve Nash’s master plan.

But also, these players have to learn from game experience the right play to commit. When you’re up three, with game tying three pointers by Durant as a benchmark, you foul instead of allowing the tie.

Btw, DVJ, can I have some grape drink please?

DVJ, Donnie isn’t giving out jobs based on loyalty. You can give up the charades.

“but it felt like the knicks were trying to lose at times, …”

I get that feeling all the time. I think the players psyche themselves out a lot of the time. Clyde said this (or something along these lines) during the game and I think it’s very true:

“They think of ways their going to lose rather than thinking of ways to win”

They have very little confidence and I think D’antoni’s questionable late game decision making is only making it worse. Hopefully they can take this win and roll with it.

houston made some history tonite
by having 3 players scoring 30+ pts
when last has that happen i’m pretty sure in the 90′s or b4..

The Kool-aid Kid. I think the alliteration is catchier.

Seriously though, I think there are a lot of people who are only looking at one side of the coin and focusing only on the positive or the negative. Donnie and Danni (and Davey Lee) are very polarizing figures so it’s only a matter of time before lines are drawn in the sand and grayish issues become very black and white. Take your comment about D’antoni being Nash’s puppet for example. If D’antoni’s success was simply a product of Nash’s “master plan” then why was Terry Porter an abysmal failure? Why did they start winning again once they started playing a system similar to D’antoni’s? It’s much too gray.

Pessimism feeds optimism and vice versa. We’ve all been guilty of it, not just DVJ.

The Wow to David Lee was based off this game but not the rest of the comment. I dont see why you let that talent go and sign a bunch of extremely cheap talent while taking up all the cap space on two guys. If you can get them to come. I loved those trades. Love the talent we got. I truly think its the smarter and more realistic way to go than to think we’ll get two max guys.

I think Luke Ridnour and Marcus Camby are two very real and realistic possibilities for us in the off-season.

I do think Harrington has a good shot at sticking for 3 reasons. 1) He can have nights like this. 2) Donnie Walsh loves the guy. 3) He’s already said he’d like to spend the rest of his career as a Knick on several occasions. Now, I know D’Antoni would rather him leave but its DW’s decision and if you can bring him back cheaply his production just doesn’t lie.

The problem isn’t so much being able to find a D-Leaguer but the fact it would just waste money because theres no way they’d get in D’Antoni’s rotation. This is it fellas….20 somethin’ games with this product no matter how obvious it is we need a big man.

amen to that!!! and yeah i heard clyde say the same thing…hes right…

Good teams are taught how to give the foul correctly. There was an easy opportunity it give the foul yesterday. Good coaches teach guys like Chandler how to do that.

Im just saying we gotta sign somebody. When Al went down tonight I got a lil nervous. Who was going to play Center when Lee would sit down.

From RealGM this morning:

“On his Twitter page, Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that the Cavs have drawn up a couple of new plays to incorporate Antawn Jamison into their offense.

He then says that the Knicks — whom the Cavs play next — will not know about the new plays because coach Mike D’Antoni “can’t be bothered with advance scouting.”

How many times do we have to be slapped in the face that Damphoney doesn’t care about defense? He said in his Post game last night that he told his players to foul at the end? So why didn’t they?

I don’t believe he told them anything and he just said that to Cover his butt.

This clown has to go!

Amazing how TD is quick to put up a game thread after a Knicks win, but when they lose, he’s MIA.

That’s too funny and tooooo true!

lmao, that’s what many of us have been saying about this coach. Some think bad coaching is only for the coach to say “play dumb”