Toney Douglas continued his great play, scoring 18 second half points in leading the Knicks to back to back road wins. Douglas also dished out 7 assists and added 3 steals.
Danilo Gallinari added 21 helping the Knicks outscore the Sixers 50-29 in the second half.
Despite giving up a ridiculous 21 offensive rebounds including 9 to Sam Dalembert, the Knicks were able to take over in the second half behind their rookie PG.
It was a great matchup as Jrue Holiday paced the Sixers with 18 points and 6 assists.
But the night belonged to Douglas, who showed his ability to orchestrate and pester the Sixers on the defensive end. He was simply everywhere.
boston is going down! lol
Good win tonight. I’m liking the way D’Antoni is working the rotation. The youth have been getting big minutes. He has been getting the most out of Harrington, without letting him get out of control. He’s also coaching Tracy’s minutes a lot better than he had been. He’s not over-using him. He’s letting him start off the halves and get a lot of rest. I’m not too thrill with MD’s decisions this season, but I gotta give it to him for the way he’s finally handling the rotation.
Nice to see Toney Douglas and Gallo step up in the 4th quarter. Solid game for Chandler, too.
Hmmm, I know his contract is not the best but could Dalembert be another center to consider as a target for next season?
Noooooooooooooo….I’d rather go for a cheaper and older Camby with a kid from the draft coming off the bench than Dalembert. Besides, something tells me this coach wouldn’t use him much.
Just great stuff from Gallo, Chandler, and Douglas. Add a star or 2 and some role players around them and we have a playoff team. They just have to keep developing. I can not believe how quickly Douglas has picked up pg skills. I thought before he was just a combo guard but he seems like he has the potential to be a good point now. Don’t want to get ahead of myself though, I need to see more from him and consistency. Gallo and Chandler are both playing very good right now. 2 good young players there. Lets keep it up, Boston has been struggling for a while but I still don’t think we have a chance. I just want to see a good effort.
I still wouldn’t get too ahead with TD. He plays great D, which really is refreshing, and along with Gallo and Chandler (in that order) are the only players make defensive efforts. Let’s hope that whoever comes next year also has some sense of D, because it’s pretty clear that those who don’t have any (Lee, Chucketts, Duhon, etc) don’t really get called out because of it.
Let’s not forget Lee, if Douglas was everywhere, Lee was nowhere to be found.
And as much as I appreciate all the efforts he’s made to improve his offensive game, the player seen tonight is the type of player he is when he’s not scoring…. useless.
The guy did have 16 rebounds tonight-that should count for something.
I agree that his defense is terrible-16 rebounds is certainly “useful” though.
Of course, boards are boards, but the conversations on how Lee’s boards are achieved is one long discussed. Don’t misunderstand me, I’m pointing that all his rebounds are the easy ones, but they do contribute in a major way to his numbers.
I understand, but in fairness to Lee, when you are averaging 12 rebounds a game, not all of them are going to be “easy”. Sometimes that angle is a little overplayed by his critics.
The guy was a +26 tonight-he must have done something right-far from “useless”.
Eddie House is awful. I think we can all see why Boston was willing to give hIm up for Nate. Its a good thing we got lucky with Walker in that deal.
Douglas has really impressed me so far. His passing skills could use some work, but his scoring ability and defensive is very good for a rookie. If he works hard during the offseason developing the passing skills necessary to play the point, I think he could develop into a very nice player. He has the speed and athleticism, so I don’t think it will be too difficult of a transition.
Another Mundane March of Meaningless Matchups.
July can’t come soon enough.
I realized tonight I’ve become numb to the wins and losses.
I liked what I saw from Toney Douglas.
Danilo Gallinari played pretty well, but 2 rebounds in 41 mins isn’t going to cut it.
Chandler quietly had a pretty good game. He needs to find a way to get more shots (9?).
Eddie House needs to go back to Boston, he’s forgotten everything he learned under Doc Rivers and Tom Thibodeau.
Sergio? Sergio…?
A win is a win is a win.
Lindsey Hunter + Bobby Jackson = Toney Douglas?
I hope so.
The Knicks could do worse.
I think a year from now we’ll be making comparisons to Gary Payton. Not that he’ll be on that level… but going down that path.
Wow!-that would certainly change things.
“I think a year from now we’ll be making comparisons to Gary Payton.”
Funny thing is I think I already heard that comparison here.
Doubt it. Seriously.
Payton was a totally different player. 6’4″ and more a pure point guard from jump. The guy is a HOF level player.
Anyone who makes that comparison is just nuts.
I see what your saying.I can see a little bit of “the Glove” in TD but unfortunetly I have to agree A LITTLE BIT with HaS. Payton was mode pure at the point. But with work this off season who knows. So far I like what I have been seeing in TD
“…but unfortunetly I have to agree A LITTLE BIT with HaS.”
You should more often.
Lindsey Hunter?? Bobby Jackson?? HaS that’s relagating TD to bench duty his whole career. I have someone in mind buy it’s too early to compare. Give me sometime I’ll have a better comparison for you.
“Lindsey Hunter?? Bobby Jackson?? HaS that’s relagating TD to bench duty his whole career.”
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being the 1st guard off the bench and consistently in the 6th man of the year conversation. It’s not a slight on Toney as a player at all.
I think TDs game is more developed than most of us thought it would be, partially because of his age and maturity. Even though he is the only rookie on the team, he is only the 5th youngest player (Gallo, Chandler, Walker, and Sergio are all younger).
Did sitting on the bench help Toney focus more on playing the point? Maybe maybe not we will never know but he looms good right now will it last or a flash in the pan?
I think a big part of Douglas’ game comes from his extra year in college. He polished his D more and certainly all those practices and watching closely every game on the bench could’ve helped him. Of course, playing before would’ve been the ideal scenario but it didn’t happen.
If you’re a smart guy you pick up everything you can, whether you’re watching great players, or you’re giving your your best effort in practice.
He keeps it up and it’ll show the amount of character the kid’s got. Mistakes or not, now’s the time to make them. It’s way too early to make comparisons, Hunter seems like a fair way to put it though. It’d still hold them off and wait until he keeps polishing his game.
Everytime I see House I see Chuckett’s clone gone wrong, at least Chucketts gets some points and goes for rebounds here and there, and hey, tonight he had more assists than House.
Glad to know he ain’t coming back.
It’s just very frustrating that months ago a couple hundred fans on this blog knew douglas provided obvious benefits that duhon didn’t. And this coach, in some surreal universe, decided to keep Douglas on the bench. This might be the clearest repudiation of dantoni’s coaching.
“This might be the clearest repudiation of dantoni’s coaching.”
Wait until Sunday.
missed the game but i see DOUG did his thing.
doug with hard work can be a very good player overall
i liked the kid from the get
imagine if he got to play every game 5-10 mins by now he would be even better but danni boy is a fool..
anyone else think that if Gallo wanted he could average 8 RPG easy?
like going after those defensive rebounds when the other team is already trotting back on D … like Lee does EVERY time
i remember last game there was a loose ball rebound that should have went to Gallo, Lee fought him for it and the ball ended up going out of bounds lol
or even chandler could average 8RPG for that matter
Cmon man. The team won the game!!!!!
Now that the season’s lost, the best thing that every player that’s gonna be next season can do is start working on their shortcomings. Gallo’s low amount of rebound is something that needs to be looked at, as well as Will’s handle and bball IQ.
It’s nice to grab the W, it really is, but it’s also helpful to see the good and project how it can be better.
Well he does play on the perimeter mostly. He’s averaging 5 rebounds. Just for comparison, Wade averages 4.7, Pierce 4.3, Artest 4.3 and so on. Lebron is the only perimeter player I can think of that bounds at a high level(7.2).
Gallo could possibly get more but I think it’ll come with time. — especially once he moves to the 4 spot. That is coming, I think.
Agreed, Gallo’s rightful position is at the PF, but still, he could work on those boards, even if Lee doesn’t let him.
i thnk that might be system-dependant.
maybe hes not asked to crash.
Haha. I think everybody’s rebounding stats would improve significantly without Lee..he fights his own guys for rebounds more than the other team. Gallo also seems to be the only guy on the team who boxes out, which says a lot about a skinny guy coming off of back surgery and says even more about guys like Al Harrington and David Lee. He probably loses some rebounds due to boxing out, but he does not attack the boards enough anyway. If he ever becomes a 4, I imagine his rebounding numbers will improve a lot just from getting more chances. He still averages 5 a game though I think, which is more than enough for now.
“I think everybody’s rebounding stats would improve significantly without Lee..he fights his own guys for rebounds more than the other team. ”
How many jump balls has he forced this season?
How many times can you remember him getting opposing players in foul trouble by boxing out and forcing players to go over the back?
Lee can kick rocks.
“Lee can kick rocks”
No he can not. He can only do things that inflate his rebounding or scoring stats, which kicking rocks does not do. Plus, he can’t box those guys out or force jump balls because they are all 5 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier…right?
I am becoming more optimistic with our young guys Im not saying we have the young talent of the nets but our guys are not to shabby. bring back walker along with douglas gallo and chandler, they are begining to show growth, now just imagine them next year as role players with no pressue on them because they could be grouped with a star and then a 2nd tier player as well. I stil would like a proven starting point guard because douglas on the bench would only make our bench stronger but i can live with him starting if he continues to impress. I for one dont see it as lebron or bust, we just need one star and a good supporting cast. Look at the spurs and 2003 pistions teams deep well balanced teams can get it done have faith knick fans!!!
Lets not perpetuate the myth about the nets ‘young talent’. Lopez is a ball stopper and ideally a 3rd option. Harris is a 6th man not a PG. Not sure if Courtney Lee is a starter. TWill is a SG that can’t shoot. The rest of that team not worthy of words — well 7 wins says it all LOL
In any case, they got a top lottery pick coming up and then a probable top 15 to 10. Their PG is regarded as one of the more solids floor leaders around the league (notice the adjective “solid” when it could’ve easily been good) with a center who’s well on his way to dominating the league in 2 years, maybe less.
With any other coach, their record would not be this disgraceful, I can assure you that.
On the other hand, looking at it from your POV, they’ll have a hell of a 2nd line once they get a top player and a 3rd tier during the summer.
Make no mistake, whoever they land, that team will be fighting right up there, imho.
” now just imagine them next year as role players with no pressue on them because they could be grouped with a star and then a 2nd tier player as well.”
What? Isn’t that when the pressure WOULD be on them to perform?
oh no no i wasnt saying anything negative about gallo’s rebounding in general .. just negative in d Lee’s stat padding lol
but i guess all the top rebounders in the league pad the stats too
Lee’s stat padding is what impedes Gallo from getting more boards. Just one more example of why Lee shouldn’t be back next season.
“Lee’s stat padding is what impedes Gallo from getting more boards”
Gallo also impedes Gallo from getting boards.
I said this at the begining of the season Gallo is pretty terrible at rebounding in traffic. The effort is there (boxing out on D, crashing on O) but the results are not.
Plus he is pretty damn slow so he has to leak out so he doesn’t get beat in transition.
But Gallo is more of a team rebounder. His efforts make it possible for his teamates to get boards.
That seems fair. A good offseason to bulk up and gain some strength in his legs to get quicker should help him get more boards mos definitely.
I hop next season Gallo’s number increase. He’s a disciplined kid, someone who would spend his time working on his game, so I think many are in for a treat in regards to Gallo next season.
You can’t teach what Tony Douglas brings on defense. His offensive game was always there but suffered because D’Antoni kept him on the bench causing him to lose confidence. One of the many mistakes of D’Antoni-
Yup, you got it. Part of his success in Phoenix came from the fact that many of his players knew how to play D. Johnson, Bell is a defensive expert, Marion is pure strength. Nash really isn’t the best defender but everything else is great. He couldn’t have asked for a better cast.
Here in NY his best chance is to use the guys that know how to play D, Douglas, Gallo, Will, as much as he can. He just started using Douglas and has misused Gallo all season. Makes you wonder why Lee has regressed and Harrington doesn’t even make the effort.
that is correct
thats why i like the kid he can rep nyc rite
he aint no soft or scarred kid.
doug was the best guard the knicks had an danni boy couldn’t see that u know why
cuz any player that plays good defense isn’t a tool for danni boy
he likes guys that chuck it up with 23secs on the clock an can take 20 shots in 20 mins
If D’antoni’s dumb enough to bench his best defensive player in Douglas, he probably won’t be here next season (or at least I dream of that). Avery Johnson was Donnie’s second choice right, well he was my first. Still is and he’ll probably be either in Chicago, NO or the Nets next season. Outstanding.
Douglas is an old school NY pg. He’s just one of those in your face type of players who will annoy the crap out of other pgs. Nate could learn a lot by watching him, it seems he is trying to do similar things on Boston right now. But anyway, Douglas seems like he could fit right in with Starks, Oakley, and Mason.
Interesting take on the situation. I see Douglas developing into a smaller Starks type player. They both were defensive stalwarts and I hope Douglas becomes a reliable shooter like Starks was.
Could TD develop into the starting PG? Possibly. I’m not counting that out. The guy works so hard his ceiling is immeasurable right now.
hey guys … i heard from a friend of a friend who has a friend’s cousin who works in the Cavs front office say that he heard from a source of a source that Lebron is 50/50 about leaving
It took all those sources to tell you what we all knew already?
Lol
How many wins is that?
25?
ok…I’ll be back.
wow your psychic powers are amazing. You really called this. Too bad none of these wins really count since they are already out of the playoff race. Not exactly staying competitive when the games don’t count pretty much from the allstar break onwards. But I guess 25 wins or more looks good so people like you can say this season was a success. Nice work DVJ.
this is gonna be fun…
I really love to read those nuggets of wisdom you have to offer. 30-35 wins. Damn, impossible to tell.
24 wins.. we wont win our 25th til you get back from puerto Rico.. If youever leave..
A predict April Fool Day for the 25th win..
Houston 3/21
Denver 3/23
@PHX 3/26
@Utah 3/29
@Portland 3/31
@GSW 4/2
@LAC 4/4
Boston 4/6
@Indiana 4/7
@ORL 4-9
MIA 4/11
WAS 4/12
TOR 4/14
I predict 3 more wins the rest of the way. and that optimistic
Knicks need a center bad.
I’m hoping Alabi is in a Knicks uni by next season. If only the Knicks had a rebounder like Dalembert out there today.
Alabi, Hayward, and Jerome Jordan wont be a bad draft for Walsh.
I like those 3 guys plus Varnado. I may like Varnado the most. He’s just a shotblocking machine.
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“Nice work DVJ.”
Thanks man
“wow your psychic powers are amazing.”
Actually there are other people here that had them picked to win 30-35 games this year. How many games did you have them winning this year?
“Too bad none of these wins really count since they are already out of the playoff race.”
I guess that answers my question. Please tell me you didn’t have them in the playoffs this year….please.
“Not exactly staying competitive when the games don’t count pretty much from the allstar break onwards.”
Um…….ok
“But I guess 25 wins or more looks good so people like you can say this season was a success.”
Was this season a failure? What about that $10 million in cap space we cleared?
“How many games did you have them winning this year?”
I figured a modest improvement of 3-4 wins from last year since the roster was more set and there were less changes and the continued development of Gallo, Chandler, and our lottery pick…oh forget about that.
“Was this season a failure? What about that $10 million in cap space we cleared?”
Spoken just like Donnie’s lackey. I was never against getting as much cap space as possible, but not at the price of the future of our roster from which we were supposed to be building around. As pretty much anyone in the NBA can tell you and as has been written about a lot, the most valuable players to have are young guys on their rookie contract and true max superstars. If we get one of the big 4 and then use the rest of the money wisely and maybe even get 2 max guys, then I won’t really have a problem. But Donnie took a major risk by making that trade, when just by waiting we could have had JJ’s expiring as a trading chip anyway and all our young guys. To top it off, If HIll turns into a decent to good player and we don’t get a great team then Tmac trade=GIANT FAIL. A major unneccesary risk if you ask me.
lol. I can see Elgin Baylor sitting at all those draft lotteries year after year thinking “Mo Money Mo Problems”
“I figured a modest improvement of 3-4 wins from last year since the roster was more set and there were less changes”
We were playing well in January, then the trade deadline came and we inserted T-Mac, Sergio, Walker and House. That sounds like changes to me.
“and the continued development of Gallo, Chandler”
Have you not seen the development?
Gallo is averaging 14 and 5. What do you want him to average 18 and 10?
“and our lottery pick…oh forget about that.”
Yes forget about that..it’s gone. We traded him.
“Spoken just like Donnie’s lackey. ”
Jesus….
“I was never against getting as much cap space as possible, but not at the price of the future of our roster from which we were supposed to be building around.”
We traded Jordan Hill……JORDAN HILL!!
Donnie didn’t trade the pick for this year draft.
He swapped picks for next year (so we still have one)
He traded the 2012 pick because he thinks we’ll be good enough by then to where it won’t hurt us as much as signing great players this year will help us.
“As pretty much anyone in the NBA can tell you and as has been written about a lot, the most valuable players to have are young guys on their rookie contract and true max superstars.”
Gallo, Chandler, Douglas and Walker are all on their rookie contracts. Bring on the superstars!!
“If we get one of the big 4 and then use the rest of the money wisely and maybe even get 2 max guys, then I won’t really have a problem”
Cool
“We traded Jordan Hill……JORDAN HILL!!
Donnie didn’t trade the pick for this year draft.
He swapped picks for next year (so we still have one)
He traded the 2012 pick because he thinks we’ll be good enough by then to where it won’t hurt us as much as signing great players this year will help us.”
Jordan Hill, yes the guy who our savior DW drafted ahead of Brandon Jennings, a guy who would look pretty good as our pg of the future, wouldn’t you say. Yes Jordan Hill, the 8th pick that our GM had to get right. Yes Jordan Hill, the guy who is getting some minutes and playing decent ball now.
He couldn’t trade the pick for this year even if he wanted to, we don’t have one anyway.
So Isiah traded this years pick because he thought we would be good by now. Does that make it ok? Same goes for 2012. Isiah thought we would be good too.
“Have you not seen the development?
Gallo is averaging 14 and 5. What do you want him to average 18 and 10?”
Read again what I wrote. That isn’t at all what I said, he is exactly where I would expect him to be. I thought our team would be better with the addition of him, that is all I was saying there.
“We were playing well in January, then the trade deadline came and we inserted T-Mac, Sergio, Walker and House. That sounds like changes to me.”
Thats just blatantly untrue man. We were struggling for a long time before we made those trades.
“Yes forget about that..it’s gone. We traded him.”
Precisely. Thanks for repeating my point. He is gone, we don’t have him anymore.
“Gallo, Chandler, Douglas and Walker are all on their rookie contracts. Bring on the superstars!!”
Ok true. So which sounds better, you tell me. Gallo, Chandler, Douglas, and Walker
OR
Gallo, Chandler, Douglas, Walker, Hill, 2012 1st round pick, and possibly a top 15 or 20 pick next year. Then we have our team set, and we just need 1 max free agent and 1 solid role player. Instead if things go poorly we are now just screwed honestly. An awful big IF. IF LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and JJ don’t sign here, we are looking at another lottery pick next year and this trade was Isiah-esque. Awful big risk in my opinion. If it all works out, then thats really nice and I will be worshipping Donnie like you do. If it doesn’t, then he is just another in a long line of incompetent gms who has screwed our franchise beyond belief.
“Thats just blatantly untrue man. We were struggling for a long time before we made those trades.”
He talks in endless circles sometimes making up facts to fill in the gaps. You will only drive your self insane arguing with someone who doesn’t even understand his own points.
JUST IGNORE THIS GUY.
I used to argue with this HERB, but since he acts like a child, i ignore him like a child. All he does is “QUOTE” people’s posts, and then take them out of context.
For instance, you talk about developing young talent, and how you would expect their improvement to improve the team… Yet this guy takes your comment out of context and acts like your disapproving of Gallo’s progress.
He’s the kid who needs attention so bad, and will do whatever it takes to get it. He’s clearly gets enjoyment out of riling people up on this blog, so just don’t give him the satisfaction.
Haha. Good points. I wasn’t taking it seriously anyway.
Yup, you can’t really take someone seriously when they don’t really know to how backup their POV.
But since it is a blog, best you can do is try to make them discuss things, if they can.
- You really think Gallo’s been used correctly this season?Standing there on the wing waiting to get the ball most of the time? 14 and 5 is not bad at all considering the only sees about 20 touches per. Come on. The kid’s a good player, but he’s been totally underrated by the very coach who asked for him. He could very well be 18 and 10 if he had more touches like today’s game.
- If we don’t get into the playoffs next year (which is something nobody can assure), that pick will be swapped for a crappier one, hence lost. Come on. In 2012 we’ll need young cheap guys coming in to refresh whatever squad this team has, even if it’s a late 1st rounder, which now we don’t have.
Oh yeah, january was a wonderous month for us including a historic lost against the Mavs and nice losses against Detroit, Minny, and the Wiz. Yeah, we were doing so well.
I can’t say I think Gallo has been used correctly this season. This offense has just been ridiculous to watch at times for Gallo and Chandler. I hate watching Gallo and Chandler stand off behind the 3pt line so Duhon and Harrington can dominate the ball. I think Gallo should be posting up, coming around screens, and running pick and rolls as both spots in that..
But at the same time, if you told me last year that Gallo could average 14 and 5 per game, I would definitely be happy with that. The guy is basically a 21 year old European rookie who has the obstacle of coming off back surgery and playing in a tough environment like New York, plus he was booed like crazy on draft night. What he is doing this year is really impressive. But I agree with you, and the same goes for that with WIlson Chandler
That’s why I said that I think he’s a good player, I’m pmerely pointing out the fact that he could be doing so much more if actually used correctly (something our friend DVJ thinks has been happening). What happened during his draft night was disgraceful, imo. It happened as well with Hill. I do think players deserve a bit more respect (independently of whether they were the players we wanted for this team or not. After all it’s not their fault who drafts them).
I think he’ll keep improving, he’s gotten a better sense of what the NBA is like and his transition actually has been faster than I expected. There still are things he can work for, but he definitely needs to be included more in D’antoni’s offense.
* The post before the last one was in response to DVJ.
Wasn’t someone here shouting out how we should get Iggy?
Matter of fact, don’t even admit that….spare me the trouble of insulting you.
Stay Patient
You think it’s too late for the NCAA selection committee to chose us for the tournament?
How about the NIT since they do use our arena?
Tell Grandpa Donnie to get on it…..after he fires our coach of course!
Can ya write this on your hand so you don’t forget?
Thx Playa!
“You think it’s too late for the NCAA selection committee to chose us for the tournament?”
No..it’s still early enough.
“How about the NIT since they do use our arena?”
I was thinking the exact same thing.
“Tell Grandpa Donnie to get on it…..after he fires our coach of course! ”
No problem
“Can ya write this on your hand so you don’t forget?”
Sure
“Thx Playa!”
Welcome
Iggy had a horrible game tonight. But it is just one game.
Iggys past shows that he can carry a team to the playoffs and perform well once they get there. That team is suffering this year from not having A. Miller and Brand is struggling to fit in to the offense. Eddie Jordan is also doing a pretty terrible job this season including adapting his “system” to the players currently on the team (sound familiar) and is rumored to be out after the season. It is beyond stupid and reactionary for anyone to claim Iggy sucks after one bad game.
Iggy is averaging 17 ppg, 6 rbs, 1.74 steals, and .67 blocks from the guard spot. His versatiltiy allows him to play the two or the three spots and he is that teams offense this year. He also is one of the better defensive players in the league.
Unlike any current Knick than perhaps a healthy Tmac he is also a legitimate option at the end of a game. His major flaw is his shot selection and horrifc 3pt shooting percentage from the shooting guard spot.
Nonetheless, he is better than anyone on the Knicks roster and would be a legit 2nd fiddle to LBJ. Imagine this team defensively with TD, Iggy, and Lebron on the wings.
Just throwing out the fact that, yes, Lee isn’t the aggressive board crashing PF he was in his first two years, but that probably has become at the expense of a mid range jump shot that has turned him into an all star.
Lee plays much more around the perimeter, has the ball at the top of the key a lot, even brings up the ball sometimes. Maybe he grabs some cheap rebounds too but it’s crazy that he’s averaging 11+ boards playing around the perimeter as much as he does.
That’s called Finders keepers! The reason really is that he has a coach that don’t care abvout defense so why should Lee?
Let’s take a look at the Nets…..let’s put ourselves in Lebrons shoes.
CDR is on the outs in NJ. They don’t want him and he doesn’t want to be there. He even came out and lobbied AGAINST Lebron going to NJ. That’s not good.
Yi is soft as toilet tissue. Imagine he played in NY. People here bitch and complain about one of the few 20 -10 guys in the league, the first all star the Knicks have had in years while also leading the league in double doubles last year. Imagine what they would say about Yi if he played on the Knicks LOL.
Devin Harris has not been the same player he was last year…no where near the same player.
And to top it off they have one of the worse records in NBA history.
Courtney Lee
Terrence Williams
Brook Lopez
First round pick this year (Wall, Turner)
No coach
No arena (for 2-3 years)
Jay-Z
Should I even go over what the Knicks have to offer?
Na….not yet. Let’s save it for another team that tries to compete for Lebrons services.
Up next…..The Miami Heat.
All you need to know is that Rod Thorn will outsmart Walsh anyday!
BTW What trophies do ya get for having 10 wins vs 27 wins?
If you’re gonna tank, then tank! lol
Rod Thorn already has a master plan up in his office. Donnie has LBJ, Wade or move the year back another 2 years!
Didn’t the Nets just beat us by 20pts?
LBJ is most likely gonna sign a contract with Cleveland with a oput in 2 years to come to Crooklyn! It’ll be highway robbery playa!
The Nets have a top 3 pick coming up, at worse top 5, and after that a probable top 10 at worse top 15. Harris certainly didn’t live up to expectations, but like you said it X, if you’re gonna tank, tank it up with no dignity.
I tell, any other coach would have this team with the same amount of W’s we have, if not more.
Should this team land any of the top 3 guys, or even Gay and Amare or Boozer, and they’re gonna be fighting up there next season, because a new coach is defiintely on his way.
I just hope it isn’t Avery Johnson, Thibodeau or like some rumors are saying, JVG, which really seems impossible to me. If it happens I’ll be looking to get drunk myself to death, and if I survive the binge, vomit myself to a cerain oblivion.
“The Nets have a top 3 pick coming up, at worse top 5, and after that a probable top 10 at worse top 15.”
Why do you keep saying this? Do you know who’s pick they have this year? Here let me help you….The Mavericks.
That pick will be between 25-30.
“but like you said it X, if you’re gonna tank, tank it up with no dignity.”
I think your supposed to tank when you have a draft pick….no?
“I tell, any other coach would have this team with the same amount of W’s we have, if not more.”
You tell who?
“and they’re gonna be fighting up there next season, because a new coach is defiintely on his way.”
If you say so.
Hey, you’re allowed to sharing your powers to see the future, why can’t I?
And, like the man I am, I stand corrected with the Nets’ 2nd pick, good for you, it is the Mavs’.
As for the Nets coach, it could be Avery Johnson, my personal favorite, Thibodeau, my 2nd option for this team, and some ridiculous rumors are even hinting JVG, which should never happen though, but still. The future will tell. My magic 8 ball isn’t clear on that one, it responded “ask later”.
All I personally ask is that you defend all your statements with real arguments bro, not with assurances, after all, it is a discussion right?
Why didn’t this team tank their season last year? We would’ve walked off with Evans or Curry right?
Maybe even the infamous Rubio?
In any case, I expected you to respond to that comment.
every win is a good win.. but Philly couldnt hit the broad side of a barn today. so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. also, was there ever a faster fall from grace than with Sergio?? (..maybe Bender, now that I think about it)
“every win is a good win.”
True indeed
“but Philly couldnt hit the broad side of a barn today. ”
That didn’t have anything to do with our defense? I guess that Dallas game didn’t have anything to do with our defense either huh?
“also, was there ever a faster fall from grace than with Sergio?? ”
LOL..good one. I don’t think Sergio was ever on a pedestal like that.
No it didnt have much to do with our defense. Philly sucks and they couldn’t make open shots in the third and couldnt hit any ft’s… you must have watched a different game..
..and I must be dreaming about all those on this very blog who saw Sergio as the answer to our PG problem after his first two games??
DVJ, I appreciate your antagonistic ways though.. keep it up.
oh man.. it hurts to watch Steph Curry play. this kid would have p-e-r-f-e-c-t for the knicks!
Let it go bb, the more you look at it, the more it hurts. We are where we are, and it is what it is.
Yeah it sucks. And he always seems to be on national tv. It kills me every time, he is amazing.
“oh man.. it hurts to watch Steph Curry play. this kid would have p-e-r-f-e-c-t for the knicks!”
Not more “p-e-r-f-e-c-t” than making a run for the playoffs last year. Awesome!
i was just drooling over him too… hey, you never know. sometime down the road. nobody stays on the Warriors anyway.
Difficult on that one. They’re looking forward to build on the kid along with Randolph, who’s recovering and their upcoming pick, so I think they’re moves next year will be to let go their big contracts.
yeah. I will let it go.. but this kid will haunt us for years to come
at least the last couple of games it seems like we made a pretty good pick with TD. I know many of you were saying that all along, but I wasn’t sure personally.. he seems to really grow from game to game..
If that’s the case, make it even more painful and add Tyreke to that list, the kids blowing it up.
I wonder where Turner’s gonna end up. He’s a beast.
I keep saying this, but any moves DW makes in the upcoming draft should tell us if he’s planning to go after 1 or 2 max guys.
Safe to say add Douglas to the keep list. Amazing what a little PT and confidence from your coach will do .
Douglas
Chandler
Gallo
Wilson
Keepers ! . Thats 1/3 of our depth next season already
OK honestly some of you guys on here are just straight nuts…. Those of you who say …. ” i think the coach did the right thing bringing tony douglas along slowly….” << Stupid statement , and i will tell you why . First off let's listen to some words from ILL WILL about T.D . http://video.msg.com/Videos/New-York-Knicks/Knicks-Players-Postgame-Win-Over-Sixers-3-15
Td coming in was the defensive player of the year in the ACC …which happens to be one of the best in college basketball.. The guy averaged 22 ppg. Jumped 6 points from year 3 to 4 . so what am i trying to say by all this is the guy showed flashes .. i was at the game where he scored 21 points in november against the jazz . I also have witnessed games where he came in and immediately showed his ability on the defense. CHRIS DUHON.. gave us NOTHING FOR A LONGGGGGGGG TIME. D.A messed this one up.. and every one here knows it.. Stop giving credit where credit is not due.
name a player in the league who played worst than duhon ? ….. Anyone? T.D Should have been playing .. Plain and simple..
when did the blog comment section become
“I will quote a small part of a persons post”
And then bash them underneath for even mentioning an idea or thought.
usually I like the comments section because there are fans that have great theories about why things happen, but now all I read is bashing of each others comments.
We should be looking at how attractive our team is for a free agent. You can’t say our role players of Douglas, Chandler, Gallo and Walker aren’t better than 25 of the leagues role players. This team is just missing the the role stars to close out games and push us through rough patches.
Bosh is coming and so is LeBron. Too many factors for them not to.
You don’t here Orlando complaining about Shaq everyday when he left them high and dry? The fans cheering so loud drowned out the defeated woes of the Magic fans losing a top 3 center of all time. Teams move on, so will the Cavs. Plus, he will be so big in NYC, Cleveland will look like his non-existent college career….never happened.
we have better role players than 25 of the other teams in the nba