ESPN: Camby, Blazers Talk Extension

geez, first kobe which was a long shot anyway now maybe camby signing a extension, it doesnt make sense for him to sign an extension unless they are looking to move oden or he wont be ready for the start of the season, im starting to get a errie feeling about this summer not working out for the best, I hope im wrong, or is it the fact that the media is responsible for my let down by throwing out names, and in all reality the knicks are not targeting any of the players thrown out there hmmmm

The blazers are going to give him more than 20 million? That’s absolutely mind-boggling. I don’t believe that for a second, unless it signals that they have completely given up on Greg Oden. Still, this just seems far-fetched to me. While I don’t doubt that an extension would be talked about, 10 miliion a year? Really? Im not buying this at all.

Blazers can have him for 20 million for two years… If this is true then they’d be paying Camby 10 million, Oden close to 7 million then Joel Pryzbilla who wont opt out of a 7 million dollar contract will be getting paid that amount as a 3rd string center ? Just does not make sense

Even if Joel P opts out there current contracts for next season add up to about 54 million, so unless they are trading Oden or a combo of players then I don’t see how they can give Camby 10/yr.

Oden and Rudy for Wilson? haha

Go ahead and extend him – I’m with the others who say 2 for $20 is waaaaaaay too high. No, thanks.

10M seems WAY out of line considering he’s only making 7.65M now and is getting older. I thought he’d be available for about 13M-15M over 2 years (maybe even less).

20 million sounds very fishy to me given that Portland already has two big men (even though they are injured). I doubt that’s an accurate report. Portland is not dumb.

I’d do Rudy for Wilson, depending on what happens in free agency. We might need a cheap 2 on the bench and take Walker over Wil to fill out the rotation.

as usual,most Knicks fans seem to think that whatever players they want,will just be waiting on line in droves to take a huge cut in pay,so that they can play in NEW YAWK.But as usual They are wrong.(didnt we go through all of this last year)Plus the Knicks cant make a move,until July 1,when they think LBJ will sign.By the time they figure out that h’ell be gone ,pretty much all of the other guys will be gone too.I never realized that most Knicks fans were dopes until i started reading this blog

If _avi_ isn’t taking a discount from the Knicks why would Camby who has documented friction with Dolan?

Does New York really have the most intelligent fans in the world?

I’m not so sure anymore.

Nah Camby makes perfect sense. He fits in perfectly with their style and Oden and Pryz are coming off of year ending injuries. Plus the way they play, Camby can be a 4/5 combo. What I don’t understand is paying him over 10 mil per. That is just crazy and way over market value IMO.

No free agents can be signed until July 1 but I agree with everything else.

I have on countless occassions recited the Camby/Dolan beef here and yet people continue to talk about Camby signing here for less than 5 mil/per. It is beyond frustrating. They do the same thing with Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay (talk about how they will sign here for less than their current teams have already offered them) and even talk about McGrady signing for the veterans minimum. Beyond delusional.

Agreed. $10m per at this stage of his career seems a little steep. If he can get it, god bless him, I wouldn’t be mad at him for taking the money and running like a thief.

I think it makes sense also. Oden is still on his rookie deal and can be extended by Portland. If he does not make a full recovery then they have camby as insurance. Oden and Pryz both are suspect as far as returning next year and making an impact, so why not do this now whle they can afford him. I see them having to overpay him, but isn’t that what the summer of 2010 is going to be about. Overpaying marginal players to come play for a team

and yer gonna still call David Lee a prick,cuz he wont give us the “home town” discount and play for 7 mil per

DUH………..

Greg Oden actually looked like the 2nd best defensive center in the league before he got injuried.

He’ll never be a superstar but – if healthy – he’ll be a very good center in my opinion.

Marcus Camby Reportedly agrees to 2 year extension with the blazers

2 years, $21 Million

That story can’t be accurate money wise. He is not worth that much at that age. I mean the dude is 36. I personally did’t think he was worth it at 5 mil per being that a rookie with more potential and upside couid be had at less per year in the mid first round. Especially with moc drafts predicting Whiteside falling to mid first round. The money would be better spent on a pick than old man Camby. The Blazers will be a laughing stock if they invest that into him.

The knicks did not miss out on anything with Camby. I just don’t understand how people say the knick couldn’t afford a mid first rounder due to the cap but could afford Camby at 5 mil per who was paid over 10 mil now to the Blazers. Gallinari was a high lottery pick and he even doesn’t make close to 5 mil per. Bottom line is that in a big man draft a big man could come at high value low risk on the cheap.

Mr Dee, we are breahtlessly waiting for plan X.

Plan X ? I don’t think that plan A was tried and failed.

When this report comes from Cleveland then there is something to worry about.

Ridiculous amount of money for Camby. So now they are paying what, 22 million to 3 different centers. Good luck getting value out of trading one of them when the whole league knows you are trying to do it. Just ask Donnie Walsh about how that worked out with Jared Jeffries. Damn, this just seems like a dumb move from a normally smart gm. I wonder what he’s playing at here?

http://www.knicksfanaticsblog.com/2010-articles/april/exit-stage-right-almost-no-one-left-inside-the-knicks-exit-interviews-2010.html

“Eddie, its been a tough year for you but we appreciate the effort you made last summer to be in shape. There’s not really much you could’ve done about the injuries. . . .”

“Mr. Walsh, let’s cut to the chase; am I in the plans for next year,” interrupted Eddie.

D’Antoni stared at Walsh with a “Hell Naw” look with a silent West Virginian drawl.

“Well Eddie, you are in my plans. As you know I got plan A, plan B, plan C and you are somewhere around plan X to tell you the truth,”

“X as in get that x-tra ass outta here. X as in, X marks the spot where you’ll be buried on the bench. X as in cross you off the rotation, like a perpetual DNP,” thought D’Antoni.

“I knew he had a plan X,” Tommy Dee said to himself. “I must write this on the blog again.”

and you guys had the audactiy to think camby would accept 4 to 5 million per year with no long term security.

his own team is willing to giving him 10 million per imagine what hell command in the open market after his playoff performance

whatever; no big deal. we hopefully wont have the room to sign a good center anyways after LBJ + Bosh.

go into training camp with Eddy curry and Earl barron, and sign a cheaper guy; a guy like johan petro, dj mbenga, K. Fesenko, channing frye, matt bonner, or theo ratliff.

Only if we can;t get Bosh or Amare should we be worried about pairing an actually good center (with david lee)

The best option in that case is Brendan Haywood, anyways. not camby.

There are other options out there, too, such as Ian Mahinmi, aaron gray, francisco elson, tony battie, hilton armstrong, jarron collins (yuck), fab oberto… guys that are cheap and realistic with the 2 million we have outside of the 2 max deals.

I feel like the best summer sequence would be to sign Bosh and LeBron, and then use the 2 million left-over to sign Barron and Mbenga or Josh Powell.
Not sure what DW is gonna do in the draft, but if we buy a 1st rounder, hopefully we can get Orton or Bledsoe.

is tyson chandler a free agent this summer? (i feel like i read somewhere that he was)

him and cp3 were an awesome combo when he was there, one of the reasons why they did so well that one year, chandler had like 3 alleyoops a game it was fun to watch (i lived in new orleans at the time)

Then how would you fill out ther remainding roster? If the knicks take the route of paying 2 max players like LBJ and Bosh(who I don’t like) then They have to try and get 2 or 3 players out of the Curry contract .Something like Curry and S-rod for Rubio,Sessions and Brewer if Minny wins the Lottery. The lottery can produce some nice opportunities. When the Blazers won the lottery for Oden they basically gave away still very good 20 and 10 machine Z-bo for a struggling Frye who they didn’t even play much.

No he is not and he is overrated. the best chance the knicks got at a shot blocker is with NO or in the draft.

can we finally stop using the word discount when making up imaginary rosters now lol

with so many teams under the cap this summer, the free agents will be paid ridiculous numbers

no one is taking a discount in this free agent market to switch to a rebuilding team…so please everyone stop…whatever people sign for this summer will be the most they can get from any team. the only exception may be older players with kids taking a little less for family reasons

…to stay with their current teams

true. Except for LBJ and Wade who make so much more off the court than on. The LBJ Nike contract with bonuses and everything adds up to more than he made off his NBA salary since he has been in the NBA and he got that contract before he ever played a game in the NBA. Thats just one of many endorsements he has and now he is much more proven and a bigger star with more hype behind him. His NBA salary will just be a staple of respect to his services. If its 14 or 16 a year what diffrence would it make to him?

I understand where the super-realists are coming from, and I understand why the dreamers are thinking the way they are, and the fact is, while the potential reality may be leaning toward the realists’ point of view on this spectrum, no one knows what’s going to happen. I understand the point of view of the “realists”, however, you shooting down any possibility immediately because “all Knicks fans are delusional idiots”, is no different than the dreamers make believe scenarios, because like it or not, none of us can say anything with any certainty, because a lot of strange things happen in sports, whether or not it’s for shady, behind-the-scenes business reasons.

And I’m sorry, but it wasn’t unreasonable for people to think Camby would sign here for around 5 million before this came out. He’s playing really well in this window without Roy and their other C’s, and he’s getting grossly overpaid for his services, that may or may not be available the next two seasons due to his injury history. Before he started over-performing, he was a serviceable defensive stopper, who, while a good addition and wiley veteran, is really old at the age of 36, and he is not getting any younger. I understand that players are going to get overpaid because lots of teams are under the cap and the cap is higher than expected, but this contract extension is absurdly priced for a player at his age.

true, the max guys that want a change of scenary have to take a discount in order to move…good point…but we will still have to pay them our max salary to sign them

i was referring more to the camby, boozer, haywood, tyson chandler types…the 2nd – 3rd tier guys

” Before he started over-performing, he was a serviceable defensive stopper…”

He was the defensive player of the year just 3 years ago, I’d hardly call that just “serviceable”. He’s a stud on the defensive end, he is old, but I think many people (here included) thought he had at least 2 years left in him where he could play at a high level. Apparently the ‘Blazers feel the same way, that’s all.

No you don’t have to pay them the max. The max is a restriction set to not allow a team to pay more than the roughly 16 mil but it’s not manditory that thats what they have to pay. Again if LBJ or Wade wanted to play for less they could even Wade talked about taking less for the right situation.

Camby has been playing really well for a long time. In Denver, in LA, and now in Portalnd. If you watched him play over the last four seasons you would realize that he is more than an “over-performing . . .serviceable defensive stopper.”

I agree that he is old, but you are really making a general and incorrect statement by minimizing his contributions as an over-performing, serviceable defensive stopper.

So you think he is worth 10 over 2? I feel there is better a team can do with 10 mil especially Portland. He might have a few good years but he is still old and injury prone. I bet Chicago thought Big Ben had a few more years at a high level.

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Sorry, that should have read serviceable offensive player, and defensive stopper. Didn’t mean to downplay his defensive skills. I know a lot of people on here thought Camby paired with Lee would have been equal to getting an “elite” PF, but I never bought into the Camby plan, I think he is too injury prone to dole out that much money for two years of his services.

Even the greatest of centers have a significant drop off at right around Camby’s age. Shaq who is the probably the best Center of all time will probably not command that much per year. If you notice he like many others his age dropped of skill wise despite his ability to be productive.

Again, meant to say serviceable offensive player and defensive stopper, because I know he is a great defender. I only said he was overperforming recently in the absence of Roy, and that’s mostly on the offensive end.

I love Camby, and have always loved him, but I think they are paying too much, because they will now have two centers, who are very good when healthy, but often have injury problems.

To state once more, I have always loved Camby, and would have loved to root for him again in NY, but only at the right price. The last thing we need is to commit some of our much needed money to someone who is so injury prone.

“So you think he is worth 10 over 2? I feel there is better a team can do with 10 mil especially Portland.”

Where did I say that?

I think he’s definitely worth more than the minimum or the mid-level that many people here plugged him into their fantasy lineup at. For a team like Portland who has said they love having him it may be worth overpaying him. He could be a mentor for Oden who is more of a defensive center than a back t the basket offensive big man and when healthy the ‘Blazers are stocked with bigs, so they may have had to compensate him well in order to keep him happy since he could potentially see limited playing time if they’re luckier on the injury front next year.

While the contract is definitely a little steep it’s not exactly of the long-term franchise crippling variety either. Playoff teams who want to add veteran leadership or pieces to an already strong team have to go the route of trading for players in contract years in order to get their bird rights so they can go above the cap or sign older players who are looking to contend, more than getting paid, to short discounted contracts.

Not a bad deal for them all things considered.

i understand that, but i doubt they take less…how would it look if LBJ not only turned down a max offer from cleveland with an extra year and extra pay increases to take even less than we are allowed to offer him?…i think those guys taking lower than our max number is a bit of a pipe dream

wade may take less from miami to sign more players there, but i dont see him taking extra discounts off our max to move up here…when guys move to other cities they usually don’t take discounts

we’re not getting superstars for less than our max allowed imo

i wouldn’t be surprised if LBJ stays that shaq gets a similar contract to camby

Btw, Camby may have been my favorite Knick player (along with Spreewell) when he was here.

Still the worst trade (trading Ewing’s expiring contract ranks pretty high though) I’ve witnessed since being a Knick fan.

Sprewell*

Agreed on that being the worst trade, and the trade, along with the Ewing trade, that started the new millennium downfall of the Knicks.

I don’t know the details of Portland’s financial situation, and I think that if Roy was healthy, they’d be extremely dangerous in these playoffs, I just think that they overpaid, and that once Camby (probably) gets injured next season, they’ll be kind of pissed. But for now, if their team is healthy next season, they look really good with Oden, Pryz, and Camby. Funny how one team can have three more than serviceable centers, and are all good defenders and rebounders, and the Knicks can have none.

whoa whoa whoa…i just read the best center of all time part lol..russell, wilt, and kareem may have somthing to say about thal

“Funny how one team can have three more than serviceable centers, and are all good defenders and rebounders, and the Knicks can have none.”

Most teams had 2-3 point guards on their team last year (and most years for that matter), the Knicks have had back to back years with one (and he was a career backup).

Donnie needs to earn his his salary this offseason, I’ve given up on this “coach”, but I’m still hoping Walsh can redeem himself.

I’ve always thought Aldridge can pass as a center in a pinch too. He makes four serviceable big men.

Portland’s GM has used the exact opposite philosphy of the Knicks btw. He has built through the draft and then used his cap space and midlevel to add free agents. He also doesn’t trade draft picks, he acquires them.

Bayless, Roy, Aldridge, Outlaw (traded for Camby), Fernandez, Oden, Batum, Webster, Patrick Mills are all home grown products. The man doesn’t get nearly enough credit.

He gets a ton of credit. He’s always talked about as one of the best gms in the league, and he completely deserves it because he’s done an amazing job.

But the Knicks and Portland were in completely different situations. Due to Isiah trading away this years pick and the fact that all the best fa’s except for Carmelo were coming this year, rebuilding through the draft would be tough for the Knicks. It would have taken at least through 2011, and that would be the least amount of time. DW gambled and we will see how that pays off.

Anyway, I don’t understand this move from the Blazers. They are severely overpaying Camby and while it won’t kill their team or anything, I do think they lose a lot of flexibility by making this move. But Camby is a very good fit for them. Still, they are overpaying.

Plus, the Blazers started by getting a franchise player and an amazing PF in the top 6 of the draft. They got lucky that year since Shelden Williams, Adam Morrison, and Randy Foye were all picks surrounding Roy, and are now permanent bench players (except Foye I guess, but he’s still not very good).

Yea, that exactly. Shaq is one of the greats of this league, but Russell, Wilt, and Kareem probably disagree with your assessment of best center.

None of them can guard Shaq or was as dominate as him . He is the most Doninate center of all time period.

?? Wilt was definitely more dominant than Shaq, the dude had a 100 pt game for christ sakes (against our Knicks). The guy averaged over 50 pts a game in 1 year, and followed that up with a 45 pt per game year.

And Bill Russell was the greatest defensive player of all time. Shaq ain’t doing crap against him.

Haha I don’t know what you’re on man, but I think you’ll be hard-pressed to find someone on this blog who agrees.

july 1 is when the talking can start a week or 2 later they can sign..

Who was Wilt playing against? Undersized players. Bill was the only person who gave him a little comp and even he said that he couldn’t guard Wilt. And if Russell couldn’t guard Wilt how would he guard the bigger, stronger heavier Shaq. Bill Russell would probably tell you he would not have beeen able to guard Shaq. Dudes was scared to guard Shaq in the League. He dogged great defenders all the time. Shaq is the best then comes the other dude who won in LA everyone else is a distance secoond to his dominance.

well obviously if you’re going to compare across eras and change the premise completely. But you initially said Shaq was the most dominant center ever. I showed specific evidence that clearly shows different.

Wilt, Russell, and Kareem all have just as good, if not better claims to dominance than Shaq.

I don’t care who agree’s since the facts are the facts. Even respected basketball analyst Shaq was the most Dominate center. Russel was the greatest winner of all time but not nearlly the force Shaq was. Wilt while was very dominate he played in an era where even D. Howard might have scored 100 against a bad knicks team. Kareem too me is the more talented of all centers and played well even at an old age but still not as dominate as Shaq nor would he stand a chance in hell against him if they both faced each other in their prime. Many on here can argue against me but the facts are the facts . Shaq might even now be a big factor in LBJ getting his ring.

how long ,before D’antoni,Walsh,and Jimmy “guitar” dolan implode as one unit?just think ,we couldvr had RAMON SESSIONS FOR 4 MILL FOR 4 YEARS

(1) Luck had nothing to do with it. They traded with (fleeced) the Bulls in the Tyrus Thomas for Aldrige trade;

(2) Camby is not a crippling move for Portland. They would not have had any flexibility over the next couple of years anyway;

(3) They also did their homework on Roy when a lot of other teams didn’t.

Even with all of Thomas idiotic trades the Knicks still could have kept their draft picks; purchased some late first round picks, and still had Lopez, Jennings, Chandler and Lee to build around. They would have also had maximum cap space in 2011. Not ideal since James, etc. are free agents this summer, but it was an option. We went in another direction, July 1 we see if it was the right direction.

I agree with your last paragraph and 1st and 3rd point. While I agree that Camby is a great fit for Portland and its not a crippling contract, they now have devoted almost 25 million to their center position, with 3 different guys to play. Without injuries, Im guessing Pryzbilla will be benched, maybe Camby and Oden maybe share time? So their paying 10+ million for 24 minutes?

What if they want to trade one of them? They are not going to get the same value now that the whole league knows they are trying to trade one of them. Actually, none of them even have that much value to begin with. An overpaid Camby is tough to trade, especially if his play drops off. A constantly injured Oden probably doesn’t have any value that they could get significant assets for. Pryzbilla’s overpaid, but decent.

Its going to be tough for them to improve their team from this point on.

I respect your opinion obviously; however, nothing you stated was fact, it was all opinion. So “the facts are the facts” isn’t really accurate, since you stated opinions on Wilt, Russell, and Kareem. None of that was fact.

Let Bosh go sign with the Heat, then u could see Amare sign in NY and boozer would go to the bulls. For those that want Dantoni out, that is what u should be rooting for, amare to the knicks, that is where the first clash could be, between walsh and dantoni, the coach will want lee back, the gm will want amare. Could be a NY SUNS look with Amare and Joe Johnson, then we take Okafor and Collison for chandler and Curry. Gallo at the 3…

I’m sure other people did their homework as well and thought Morrison could be as effective of a scorer as he was in college, or that Shelden Williams could be the inside presence that he was at Duke, there’s no such thing as a “sure thing”. The Blazers also took Oden over Durant the next year (which I don’t think was necessarily a dumb move, because nobody knew that Durant would be this good in the NBA). I doubt they just picked him blind, I’m sure they did their homework on that one too. There is a certain amount of luck involved in the draft, considering no players have any NBA experience.

PS: I never said Camby was a crippling move, they’re just overpaying him.

Shaq is the most dominant center of all time hands down.

Yes Wilt has those incredible #’s that nobody in the game has ever had before…..but people say Jordan was the greatest ever…why is this? If you put so much weight on Wilt’s #’s when comparing him to Shaq, why don’t you bring that up when people say Mike is the greatest? We need to know what your definition of dominance is.

Russell has more rings than anybody (I think) but when it comes to pure force and strength and physical power…..it’s not even close.

Bill Russell was 6 foot 10 and 220 pounds.
Wilt Chamberlain was 7 foot 1 250 pounds
Shaquille O’Neal is 7 foot 1 325 pounds

When it comes to force and strength you have to give it to Shaq.

Yes and in a strong man competition I’d probably take Shaq, but in terms of basketball I just disagree.

What you are witnessing right now on TNT is the reason why I say Derron Williams is the best PG in the league.
23 points 7 assists in the 1st half.
More importantly…his team is up by 12 going into the locker room.

DVJ for once we agree on something haha. I agree, Deron is incredible. Its ridiculous that this year was his first all-star team. Plus, in head to head matchups he wrecks Chris Paul. No offense to Chris Paul, who is also incredible and a franchise player, but D Will is slightly better in my opinion. He’s really amazing. A lot of fun to watch.

I want Cams next season, but if he desires to re-sign with Portland, let him. The more cap space, the better. Heck, let Lee move on. Souces say T-Mac won’t be back next season, let him move on, too. Joe Johnson, I feel, won’t be in a Knicks uniform next season. Spend the money on potential, young players on the cusp of being all stars, with a few veterans added in the starting lineup and on the bench. Spend wisely. We have serious cap to afford two max contracts. That doesn’t mean we have to spend unconsiously on two max players. Let LeBron and Wade re-sign with their teams. We don’t need them. As I said before, spend on some good young talent, game changers and some valuable vets and that would cost as much as would if paid for Lee, Wade, or ‘Bron.

I would look at a Livingston (Wizards), Amare, Rudy at the two, maybe a Brad Miller to name a few. Be creative. You don’t only need Wade or ‘Bron to be successful.

“Yes and in a strong man competition I’d probably take Shaq, but in terms of basketball I just disagree.”

OK, so you think Wilt was a better basketball player than Shaq and that’s debatable also. He may have been more skilled than Shaq but that is not the same as dominant.

+1
The guy is just incredible to watch.

what’s your definition of dominance DVJ?

You’re saying Shaq is such force and strength, yet compared to the players Wilt was going against it wasn’t even close. Don’t get me wrong, Shaq is incredible and probably a top 10 player of all time.

If your definition of dominance is rings- then its Russell.

If its stats and relative size compared to players of the same time period its Wilt.

If you are just saying Shaq’s the biggest of all time that doesn’t really strike me as dominance. Why don’t you explain what dominance is to you?

Man I agree so much with this post. Everything you said is perfect…even though I wouldn’t mess with Brad Miller lol.
I’ve always thought we didn’t need Wade and Lebron.
Like I said..I use to love playing the best player in the world (Jordan) in front of the world. Those playoff series were classic.

I like Gay but he may be to expensive. Memphis may match any contract offer he gets. We’ll see what happens.

“If its stats and relative size compared to players of the same time period its Wilt.”

When your 7 foot 1 playing against people that average 6 foot 9 every night…it kind of defeats your point.

Shaq played against some of the best defensive centers ever….Ewing, The Dream, Zo, Mutombo, David Robinson, Ben Wallace…it’s not even close…..

Sorry I forgot to give you the definition of Dominant.

1. having primary control, authority, or influence; governing; ruling
2. occupying a commanding position

Now, take that definition and apply it to Wilt when he’s 7 foot 1 playing against 6’9 players….and then take that same definition and apply it to Shaq and the centers I named above. You tell me what’s more impressive.

Then you tell me what you think Shaq would’ve averaged if he played when Wilt played. Or if you want we can save that for another day.

What? No, Brad Miller? lol. Yeah his days may be far behind him. As for Gay, would you still throw the money at him so he becomes a Knick and use the rest of the money for a few vets here and ther? I would probably do it cause he showed he can score the mid and arc shot, and is explosive to the hole with a nice athletic and 6’8″ frame..and is only 22 or 23. He could dominate other players at the sg position. The thing for me is his maturity and the hungers he displayed last season and this season. Maybe you’re right, guess it won’t hurt looking into it.

Doesn’t that defeat your point more than mine? You just defined what my point was…Wilt was more dominant because he was such a freak going against smaller guys. Im not sure how your applying that definition of dominance to Shaq. If you want to say Shaq is better than Wilt for the reasons you just made than fine. Thats a good point.

But your point proves mine…Wilt has “primary control” because he was 3 inches bigger and 50 pounds heavier than everyone else guarding him. Im not sure how that proves your point.

I tihnk.he’s saying that Shaq is more dominant because he had bigger competition.

Either way, here’s an article I found. Might be an interesting read for you DVJ.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/356231-who-is-more-dominating-wilt-or-shaq

Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon!! The best most dominant most versatile center I have ever seen!! The best of all time IMO!!

Can you go wrong with ether?? lol Would the jazz be worse with CP3? On any given day ether is the best player on the floor. D Will is a better post up IMO CP3 the better court vision but both great!!

Kelenna Azubuike!! That is the guy who fits the SG spot and can be had at a good price!!

Here is a cool video profile on what he can do but feel free to look him up further I am telling you this guy with a legit PG and “WOW” Defense, can drive & finish, the jumper is water!! A MAJOR sleeper!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-lH1gaKIGE

Another guy I been name droping for a few weeks is “Ian Mahinmi”. The guy can be a steal and another guy who can become a beast with the help of a legit PG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcggbD8EpAM&feature=related

The Knicks have never been lucky like the Blazers.

Portland had the 4th/7th pick in the same draft and they won the lottery the year after. The reason the Blazers are perceived as “future contenders” is Greg Oden btw.

With the same kind of assets the Knicks would’ve had : RUSSELL WESTBROOK, ERIC GORDON AND BLAKE GRIFFIN.

Apples and oranges.

Lucky like the blazers..

Bowie over Jordan
Oden over Durant

Brad Miller on the Knicks huh…well i hope it’s for 1 year…well it looks like Knicks will K out on big 5, when they do, just call NO and the Paul/Okafor trade done for Douglas, Chandler and Gallo. They sign Raja Bell and Korver for the 2 and 3 spots…

Lets see that gives u Paul, Bell, Korver, Okafor and Miller…it’s ok for 1 year, then u take the money from the curry deal and the 13 mil of cap room or so left after making the paul deal and u have 24 mil in cap room in 2011 to go after Carmelo Anthony, etc,…. could work i guess…

i forgot all about this guy. has he been injured? and is he a FA?

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Haha yes.

They had to change the rules for Wilt.

‘Nuff said.

Oh and they didn’t record blocked shots when Wilt played if I’m not mistaken.

Funny how deron Williams became the “best point guard in the league” in a year where Paul was injured.

Chris Paul is the best point guard in the league.

Next year CP3 is going to be chewing bubble gum and kicking ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso

2 yrs, 20 million for 35 yr old Marcus Camby? Please…

I like Brad Miller for 1-2 seasons. He’s not the defender we need, but he tries. He’s an above avg passer for a pivot and has a good jumper so I like him for Mike D’s offense.

If Camby resigns in Portland, Przybilla will be made available. A platoon of Pryzbilla-Miller could be really effective. I think Portland would send Pryzbilla to the Knicks in a S&T for Al Harrington. Al is the perfect candidate to be the “stretch 4″ they need off their bench.

Pryzbilla is also a good option at the 5 for the Knicks since he only has 1 yr on his contract, and won’t hinder the Knicks 2011 cap options.

2 years $21M with $5M in performance bonuses. I wanted Camby here as much as the next guy but not at that price. That’s just to much.

Sucks to not get Camby, but no way at that price.
Miller is serviceable. Given the higher cap and the unlikelihood of signing two max guys, I wonder if it makes sense for Donnie to try and pony up some cash to one of the teams with multiple 1st rounders. Would be nice to get 2-3 decent prospects to bolster the bench. I’d try to hold on to the 2nd rounders and just do a cash for pick arrangement if at all possible.

As much as I like Gallo, and I am optimistic about his trajectory, I would be willing to package him, TD, and WC to NO for Paul and Okafor. If you can sign Gay 12 mil, Azibuike 4 mil, Hakim Warrick 4 mil, and Lee 12 mil, you would have a lineup of:

Paul
Azibuike
Gay
Lee
Okafor

Earl Barron as your backup center
Maybe Curry for 10 minutes a game
S-Rod as backup point
Walker backs up Gay
Warrick backs up Lee
1st rounder
2nd rounder
2nd rounder

If you could do a sign and trade with NO with Lee instead of Gallo, that would be even better, but I’m guessing NO requires Gallo in the deal if Paul is in it.

With Gallo in the deal, and the ability to get out from Okafor’s contract, NO might just do this deal.

They could play
Collision
Chandler or Marcus Thornton
Gallo
West
Gray (or someone else that they sign to play the 5)

That’s not a bad team and they have cap flexibility. They get a potential all star and two solid young cheap talents in exchange for Paul (who they could lose in 2012) and get rid of Okafor’s contract to boot. I used to not think it was possible NO would trade Paul, but I could imagine this scenario happening. It’s all about including Gallo.

LBJ could win a title with this group. Swap him in for Gay and you’re going to the finals.