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Yo u got issues bro…………….

Can’t say that I’m that familiar with what the situation was involving Rondo in Phoenix, but nothing with this coach surprises me.

Mike D’Antoni, what an idiot for not seeing the complete potential in Rondo. Those other 20 teams that passed knew what he was going to be but just didn’t want him right.

Brandon Roy was the only one drafted ahead of him that is on Rondos level. So 19 other coaches and GM’s must be complete fools too right?

Vescey is a clown

Remember D’assholi only plays GOOD rookies not BAD ones.

What an asshole, that had to be the dumbest comment I ever heard an NBA coach make.

If he had just said OK I’ll hire a defensive coach who knows what the Suns might have done. They showed to be an excellent team and gave the Lakers a run for their money, scared the shit outta them in fact.

Ultimately the difference was Kobe. But the point is D’assholi bailed out on a great team because of his stubborn egotistical egocentric mentality.

Plus I don’t think D’ass is such a nice guy, I think he’s a prick.

I hope Nate helps win the championship for the Celtics and says thank you D’ass for making sure Donnie traded me to this great team and organization…ha ha ha ha ha ha. He looked so much more under control on the court playing for Boston. He made some key shots and some great passes and played really good defense.

I think if Doc lets him play for 5-10 minutes at a time he’s the type of player who will drive the Lakers crazy.

I was not a Nate fan because of his inability to play the right way. But it seems like Boston is turning him into a real player. I hope they resign him and continue to develop him.

“I think if Doc lets him play for 5-10 minutes at a time he’s the type of player who will drive the Lakers crazy.”

::silence:: don’t get ahead of yourself now, nate played great in the spurt he had in those few minutes but I could almost guarantee you if they can/could win the chip without him, don’t go turning this into an E! true hollywood story/Vh1 documentary on how Nate overcame obstacles in the knicks (which by the way was through his own fault).

danni boy’s favorite players are like LEE all offensive no D same with Nash.

“(which by the way was through his own fault).” ……That’s false……

MSG helped create and fueled that “monster”(krypto nate)……..

Rondo wouldn’t have been Rondo if he was drafted by the Knicks…..
The same guy who so far is this years arguably playoff MVP was going to be traded last summer because he was considered to be a head case and was deemed as “un-coachable” as well as rumored to have been feuding with his teammates……

imagine him coming to New York where we had no leadership/veteran presence of Kevin Garnet, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allens stature….no head coach to deal with a guy like Rondo’s “personality”……no “VOCAL” legendary figures around our facilities……..no true point guard to teach him how to be a leader and make his teammates better…etc etc….imagine him sitting and watching Steph run pg and MSG, Crawford and Nate play pg….that would be as catastrophic as TD watching duhon play point for a whole season….luckily TD has a different make up mentally then Rondo…

this would have truly been the worse place for him to get drafted too……..he probably wouldn’t be in the league right now or a journey man if he was drafted here…..back and forth from the d league to over seas to teams around the NBA………

created’

was right the first time..haha

“MSG helped create and fueled that “monster”(krypto nate)”

my point proven yet again from your reference of that “monster” it shows how he let his ego get control of him and thought he was above everything/everyone in that organization, perfect example on when he got pulled over in the bronx and said something along the lines to the officer of ” do you know who I am” and tweeting while in the back of the cruiser.

I mean come on man there’s no excuse for his nonsense nor will i site here while people on here act like he got ran out of here, he did it to himself, Doc even benched him and daniels for acting like children at one point, dead this whole nate issue, he did it to himself, we’re not in the back with the players and coaches to know what words/actions are being exchanged to cause one to act a certain way towards another, Nate is a talent that I’ve never seen before for his size and if he gets his personality/ego in check he could make some top 5 lists in the NBA for something other then dunking.

I could agree to that, he would have been another starbury in the news

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Yeah, I can’t even read Vecsey anymore, he used to be one of the greats, now he’s just a crazy bitter old man.

The fact that he would blame Dantoni for not keeping Rondo is beyond ridiculous. Robert Sarver refuses to pay the luxury tax every year, so he ended up trading the likes of Rondo, Fernandez, Rodriguez, and others just for cash. People could argue that Dantoni wouldn’t play them anyway, and maybe thats correct or maybe its not. But thats all on Sarver, nothing to do with Dantoni.

Im really glad for Nate honestly. I can only hope that he will finally get some minutes now and he could really help Boston. But this has nothing to do with the Knicks or Dantoni anymore. This is all Nate, Doc Rivers, and the Celtics now. They are going to need scoring to beat the Lakers, and the Lakers guards don’t really need to be defended as Fisher is inconsistent, and Farmar and Shannon Brown both suck. This should be a perfect series to play Nate in.

And Isiah’s such a great drafter BTW lol. Balkman and Frye are much better than Rondo and Bynum. But lets just forget about Isiah for now. Nothing left but to root for DW and the Knicks and hope it all turns out well. If not, DW and Dantoni become the next in a long line of really poor general managers and coaches.

has everyone seen this??? i just saw it for the first time and i died laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4ffNO0Ye5M

perfect example on when he got pulled over in the bronx and said something along the lines to the officer of ” do you know who I am” and tweeting while in the back of the cruiser.

There is no evidence that he was “in the back of the cruiser” while tweeting.

He likely was sitting in the drivers seat while the cop was in the squad car.

And name be a professional athlete who would not say “do you know who I am” when pulled over. Sh!t.. i know non pros that do that.

Peter’s Vecsey’s just a bitter old man – no disrespect but he desperately needs to retire.

Vaccaro’s articles are not always very interesting/thought-provoking but he’s more professional than Peter Vecsey (probably the most arrogant/”quick-to-judge” columnist) and Marc Berman (even though I respect the fact that he’s very active).

“And Isiah’s such a great drafter BTW lol. Balkman and Frye are much better than Rondo and Bynum”

LOL

It needed to be said.

+1. I actually think Berman could be really good because he’s so active and good at scooping, but his hatred for the Knicks since the Starbury debacle makes him too biased to be respectable in his opinionated pieces.

One game and people go gaga, all of a sudden the Knicks are stupid and the Celtics have turned him around.

I’m happy with Bill Walker.

Nate has to take responsibility for his immature actions but you are probably right, MSG and the Knicks didn’t help the matter. They marketed Nate more than any other Knick player. And the kids love him because of what he does and because of how small he is. However while he was with the Knicks half the time it seemed as though all he wanted to be was a side show.

I think Alan Hahn is probably the most fair of the Knicks writers. He will kill the Knicks when it is appropriate but also will compliment them when the time is right.

i do that all the time….everytime i get pulled by a cop walking in car etc i always say do u know who i am..it’s a mind game.lol.

Until DamPhoney proves otherwise, you’re damn right everthing’s his fault.

balkman is a nasty hustler an frye is a good 3pt shooter..lmao..

For anyone who likes playing streetball in the courts and is interested in the rims and how they are made, here is an article in the NYT you might like…I found it somewhat interesting..

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/nyregion/30rims.html?hp

lol.

If by nasty hustler you mean nasty bench warmer than I agree. He’s one of the best.

Agree about Frye. Im so glad we have him rather than Bynum…LOL

Yo when I go to the Garden I’m up in the mezzanines(where the Heart of the Garden is) haha…..up that escalader ride all you see is poster flyers every where of Nate Robison …..pictures and images in commercials of the good the bad and the ugly of Nate Robison…..they PIMPED that image, they had krypto nate days ect etc….. Nate his whole life had to fight even harder then the next kid to get where he’s at today because of his height….he probably was told time and time again that he will NEVER be a pro athlete…….and threw all his adversity he’s made it…and at 1 time was a top 10 best selling jersey in the league…..that’s not solely his fault if it resulted in him having a ego while in his 20’z….that’s bs…

I’m not saying nate isn’t over the top…because at times he can be to much for me too…. but there has to be ACCOUNTABILITY BY THE ORGANIZATION to help mold him into a better all around player as well as man…….whether ENVIOUS dudes on here like it or not……especially when there’s so much potential on both the business and athletic side of Nate….this isn’t the 50′s or 60′s, the same rules don’t apply anymore…..to put this solely on Nate is DEAD WRONG and not worth discussing if that’s anyone’s view …..to larry brown credit even though he did a DISGUSTING job in regards to his coaching while here he found personal interest in Jamal and was on his behind until he minimize every bad habit possible…..and it made Crawford a better “ALL AROUND” NBA player……. Nobody is shedding tears that Nate is gone…..plz….But dudes still taking shots after they played themselves by stating he wouldn’t dress or have a impact on the playoffs and would be glued to the bench etc. etc. ..was found to be DEAD WRONG and still want to take swipes on his night is a straight up CORNBALL move…..STOP HATIN ….

that was good first time i saw that also.
it’s funny…

HAHA……

While Isiah actually has a pretty good draft record, I wouldn’t be sticking up for Balkman. I really hope that was sarcasm dagawd.

I guess rondo was a “bad rookie” in d’antoni’s eyes. It kind of makes you wonder what Jordan Hill will be like in a few years, doesn’t it?

already addressed rondo not being drafted to the Knicks was the right decision at the time….and sometimes timing is everything….

if bynum would have been drafted to the Knicks he would be worse then Curry and just be another ….I hate to even type his name but j james..

bynum has no love or passion for the game….it took Kobe’s comments to spark “something” out of him and that was a coincidence that it got out…..bynum likes the spot light and unless your team is a Championship contender he would have no impact and be pretty much useless because he’s always injured……so stop it…..

at least Frye and Balkman has heart and plays as hard as there potential/skill set will allow them…… and dudes laughed at Isiah when he drafted Balkman…..couple of weeks into the season he was a fan favorite……stop it…….but I agreed with mostly everything else you said ds prior to your isiah shots…let it go……..

lol. It was funny at times, but overall I thought it was a little too over the top.

The crap about Nate Robinson was hilarious, as was the red card flopping thing about all European players.

+1

C’mon man. You may honestly be right about Bynum and Rondo not being the right picks at the time, but that really doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is production.

People can just as easily make the argument that Jordan Hill was the right pick at the time last year. It doesn’t matter though. He clearly isn’t and wasn’t. But he could still end up being a really good player, just clearly not as good as Jennings.

As a Knicks fan, its impossible for me to not take shots at Isiah. I won’t be done taking shots at him until the last of his monumental mistakes is off the roster in Eddy Curry. He’s still screwing us over this year by trading our lottery pick away. What Isiah did to this franchise was almost inconceivable in the way he screwed us over for years and years. I will never be done hating on him, but Im done in that it really doesn’t matter anymore. Hopefully Curry can net us some decent players in a trade.

But now its all up to DW to make crap happen.

And a player being a fan favorite means nothing if it doesn’t help lead to wins or anything. So that goes for Balkman, Robinson, and Lee. It doesn’t matter that they were fan favorites. They’re off the team now(Hopefully Lee is at least), and none of them were part of a team that wasn’t embarrasing.

Guys Laughed at Isiah for drafting him then and they are laughing at him for drafting him now. Having heart and hustle don’t get you very far in the NBA as judged by his career.

And Frye is soft. But I’m glad he sort of found himself or his game after his stint in Portland. The scouting report out of college said he was soft and he is.

that was kinda interesting ……good lookin….

when balkman plays he’s a hustle player/energy guy but those type of player are not needed in the league or certain teams anymore..

i give it a 5.5-6 overall it did have it’s funny parts

lol. I didn’t know about posting this one. I found it kinda interesting like you, but wasn’t sure if it was enough to warrant posting it.

gasol is soft too…..and that’s were people get it twisted when describing lee frye and gasol……gasol and frye will do there best while being soft on both ends of the court…as for lee there’s no need for me to get into that……

and nobody’s looking for late first round second round picks to win games especially in there first couple of years, that’s lunacy…….the fact that he was able to contribute is good in itself……he was a fan favorite because he did what nobody else on the team did and that was hustle and gave it his all on both sides of the ball every second he was out there…and that’s all any Knick fan can really ask for……

oh and when he played major minutes this dude would get double doubles regularly in part resulted into his popularity …which should be another example on how much stock should be applied to stats….

“As a Knicks fan, its impossible for me to not take shots at Isiah. I won’t be done taking shots at him until the last of his monumental mistakes is off the roster in Eddy Curry.”

that’s funny because as I said before if walsh plans fail, which would actually be a catastrophic situation to the oomph degree ….then curry is his best piece to fix his mess……if his “primary” plan fails….
which may be unfixable according to public opinion….but what can help walsh is that curry shares the same agent as Lebron I think so that can help as well as curry recieving calls from lebron wanting to work out for him so maybe he sees some value in him to a lesser extent…..

bynum has NO desire for ball
and that’s not the case for hill the situations are not comparable…. your reaching………

“He’s still screwing us over this year by trading our lottery pick away.”

even knowing what I know I co-signed the Marbury trade when it was made and I still co-sign it …I was excited when that trade was made not going to back down now….he took a similar gamble that walsh is taking now……at least he knew which player he was getting back…..on the court at least..haha

oh and by the way I would trade the potential of Eddy Curry over noah and tyrus thomas anyday of the week….plz…….To this day there looking for a back to the basket low post present that’s arguably there biggest weakness….aahahha..paxson should be FIREEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!

and hill was scouted as being soft as most players out of that school are…..it is what it is……..being soft but giving it your all is somewhat tolerable….being soft and half azz’n it on top of it is discussing

DISGUSTING’….hahaha

Even I can’t blame D’Antoni for not keeping Rondo! after Rondo couldn’t shoot a lick and he’s not a 7 SOL type of guy anyway.

Imagine a Rookie Rondo out on the court for substituting Nash and he decides to steal a ball or draw a charge? Well I can’t imagine that because we know Rondo would have been nailed to the bench anyway.

But to get mad at D”Antoni for not keeping Rondo is to not pay attention that Rondo had weaknesses that didn’t jive with this coach to begin with. So on this one, leave D’antoni alone.

I have to go jump off a ledge after this comment!

Forget about those past years, FIRE D’ANTONI NOW! Aaaaaaah always hits the spot!

Vecsey is a just a Wednesday morning Qtrback! He needs at least several days to see the results from the prior Sunday and what criticism are made the few days afterwards.

+1

i’d take walker over Nate any day. that dude better lose 15 pounds this summer though.

You’re still sleeping on Fisher and he just keeps hitting big shots after big shots year after year! lol

If Bynum don’t play well and he probably won’t due to his knees, the Celtics will be pounding the ball inside until Gasol either cries Uncle or call Garnett and perkins, DADDY!

All I care about is results. In the end, the Marbury trade killed us and even at the time I called that Curry was one of the worst trades. You talk about people being soft and not even trying…Thats the definition of Curry, it always was and always will be.

“oh and by the way I would trade the potential of Eddy Curry over noah and tyrus thomas anyday of the week”

No way for me, especially considering that the Bulls could have had Lamarcus Aldridge instead of Tyrus Thomas. Aldridge and Noah= one of the best young frontcourts in the league by a longshot. That trade was an absolute disaster.

“that’s funny because as I said before if walsh plans fail, which would actually be a catastrophic situation to the oomph degree ….then curry is his best piece to fix his mess……if his “primary” plan fails….”

I agree, if Walsh’s plan fails he should and will be fired. But as long as he doesn’t overpay for mediocre talent, his legacy will be twice as positive as Isiah’s. It wouldn’t even compare. We would just be stuck without a few draft picks but would still have a ton of cap space. In Isiah’s case, we had one of the worst teams in the league overpaying for bad talent and no draftpicks. Not even close.

And the fact that Curry might end up helping us a little does nothing to help Isiah’s legacy. Curry still stands as the worst of it.

“bynum has NO desire for ball
and that’s not the case for hill the situations are not comparable…. your reaching………”

Im not sure what your point is on this one. Bynum was and is a contributing member of a championship team(a really bad one at that as of the moment, but still playing). Bynum rededicated himself after Kobe called him out. Hill at this point is still unproven, and the fact that he showed up at summer league admittedly out of shape is absolutely embarrassing and reflects very poorly on him.

“I was excited when that trade was made not going to back down now….he took a similar gamble that walsh is taking now……at least he knew which player he was getting back…..on the court at least..haha”

I agree with this to a certain extent. Marbury was obviously an incredible talent. But at the same time he was a career loser who had gone from team to team only to have them lose while he was on them and then for the team to suddenly be contenders right after he left. Plus he had already shown that he was a crazy headcase that was crying for attention by demanding a trade from a promising Minnesota team with KG because Marbury wanted to be the number one option. We all know how that turned out lol.

“paxson should be FIREEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Yes I agree. Paxson has to be one of the worst gms in the league if not the worst. He should be shining Derrick Rose’s shoes everyday because he owes his job and his life to Rose. He’s terrible…He turned a once promising young core that was being talked about as potentially tradeable for Kobe Bryant, did nothing with that core, and watched as they grew into career losers until Derrick Rose came along and saved the franchise.

lol. This might be the most shocking moment on TKB I have ever witnessed. Its either this or that one time when HaS and DVJ actually agreed on something. lol. I can’t believe it.

“Who??”

“I’m DAGAWD”

LMAO

When i get pulled over i like to try to make the cops think,..I’ll ask “DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE”?

Rondo can’t run SSOL but Tony Parker and Ricky Rubio can? I don’t think its really about having a jumpshot its just being effective as a PG Rondo today could run SSOL and he still can’t shoot.

Hot water in the summer? that cant be right!

Just because a player is “A FAN FAVORITE” doesnt make him any friggn good

Rondo never played for D’Antoni

lol, Yep I’m pissed about too! I’m too fair to a very poor coach…and everything can’t be D’Antoni fault.

Once D’Antoni gets fired and get a coching job with another team, I will be a D’Antoni fan again!

And I guess rondo was a “bad rookie” according to 19 other teams.

u got it DUDE.
i’m DAGAWD KNOWLEDGE from the knicksblog u better recognize.lol.

thats a good 1 BOB i’ll try that next.
sometime u make em work i say stuff like do u know the law have u read all the rules an law codes i’m pretty from what i was doing is legal go look it up….

how bout if he gets an extension for 4 more years an he hires mike brown an mike woodson as his assistants…………………..

7sol needs a p.g that can dish an penetrate shooting is a+ but it’s only nessescary for danni boy,rondo would average like 10-15 assist easily

exactly. Thank you Bob.

lol. I think that would bend the fabric of reality or something crazy like that. Too many Mike’s of which all might be bad coaches lol.

how bout if he gains 15………….

geez…i’m just saying that it makes you think that’s all. He did have rondo’s rights and decided not even to give the guy a chance…i didn’t say he treats everyone like that…he’s been pretty good with gallo

“That trade was an absolute disaster.”
especially considering that the Bulls could have had Lamarcus Aldridge instead of Tyrus Thomas

thats the thing he didn’t keep both noah and aldridge……HE COULD HAVE HAD….ahahaha…..which makes it look even worse on paxson end…thanks for making my argument for me and saving me the time for typing the obvious earlier…and the bulls wanted to keep curry and was willing to pay him for life if he took a DNA test to get a read on his heart condition but he declined….that was a major reason for trading him……

“We would just be stuck without a few draft picks”

oh yea thats no biggy who needs lottery picks…haha..so it’s ok for walsh to gamble away draft picks and still has no guarontee on who he’s bringing back but not for isiah even though he knew what he was getting back….at the end of the day if his plan fails it’s the same thing mediocre talent and lost of lottery picks……

“Plus he had already shown that he was a crazy headcase that was crying for attention by demanding a trade from a promising Minnesota team with KG because Marbury wanted to be the number one option”

get real ds ..how many dudes stay with the original team that drafted them…your reaching……

u mention bynum as if it was a lost for the Knicks not drafting him…like I said before ….he would have been a bust if we had draft him….maybe Isiah learned from curry and jj and wasn’t willing to gamble again…..I mean not all gm’z can get away with drafting and making moves for the same position over and over again….

“Bynum rededicated himself after Kobe called him out.”

I said that already guess u felt like re-wording it…so I guess that’s a good reflection on his part that the team best player called him a bust because he was a uninspired bball player who didn’t maximize his potential…….and he’s contributing more as a cheerleader in this years playoff………Frye was the better pick should have been rookie of the year if he didn’t get injured

yeah? What about Eddy Curry?

lol man. You callling Channing Frye a better pick than Andrew Bynum makes my argument for me. You’re completely reaching just to defend Isiah.

And what does Paxson’s own mistakes have to do with Isiah? LOL. Complete reach yet again.

And there’s a major difference between players leaving teams, and players demanding trades because they are not the number one option on a promising young team. You never answered my response about it showing Marbury was a loser who didn’t care about winning.

And finally, you are right that missing a few lottery picks is “no biggie”, at least compared to what Isiah did to this franchise. Thanks for making my argument for me. That’s much easier than again having to detail how badly Isiah murdered this franchise.

Why can’t D’Antoni use players to their strengths? Why does a player have to fit a certain profile to play for him? Who cares if Rondo can’t shoot; he does so many other things to help you win. Why not take advantage of it? Why be so rigid in your coaching approach?

when coaches realise what kinda players they have an start using them to there strengths then teams will be better until then GOODLUCK TO TEAMS AN COACHES..

“All I care about is results.”

THEN JERRY SLOAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NASH DESERVED TO BE CRITICIZE FOR HIS POOR PLAY EARLIER IN THE WCF FOR HIS INVISIBLE ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“You talk about people being soft and not even trying”…

NASH ON THE DEFENSIVE END…NO PASS!!!!!!!

“But as long as he doesn’t overpay for mediocre talent, his legacy will be twice as positive as Isiah’s. It wouldn’t even compare. We would just be stuck without a few draft picks but would still have a ton of cap space. In Isiah’s case, we had one of the worst teams in the league overpaying for bad talent and no draft picks. Not even close.”

Isiah legacy would be failing trying to do a patch up job AFTER THE PREVOUSE REGIMES left the Knicks in a F’d up position….walsh legacy if he fails would be DUMPING SALARY AND GETTING NOTHING IN RETURN…AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA…..ON TOP OF TRADING AWAY LOTTERY PICKS…AHAHAHAHHAHA……I don’t understand who do you and people who think like you think there fooling …..I see right threw it…..and it’s TYPICAL….NOTHING can be worse if walsh plans fail…NOTHING…

BUT IT WONT……but so far he has done NOTHING…. NOTHING BUT F UP ON DRAFT DAY ….oh and his f up on his first free agency signing……no big deal but just a reminder…roberston was a joke…..wafer was the way to go…..and how can he not sign PEjr…..DISGRACEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can be so suspect and hypocritical at times ds in your criticisms……….

OH and by the way “Isiah’s own”(1 lottery, other late first rounder and last years playoff second rounder….Walsh you better get it together this draft) has had major impacts during the playoffs the past two years in critical situations….oh and I almost for got this year 6th man of the year and the hawks GO TO GUY also had an impact this season and LED his team out the first round……..where is any of Walsh’s prospect at….I don’t see them…….what impact are they having in the playoffs…..I don’t know who they are…DO YOU…..how is the pacers franchise doing after walsh left………TELL ME ABOUT IT………..ahahahaha…..
EXACTLY…..

T Y P I C A L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no its not…..if 1 person takes a gamble on something and the other person doesnt take advantage of the other person gamble then THAT person is the loser in that situation…and makes the person that took the gamble look like it was worth the risk…

and FOR THE KNICKS AND THERE SITUATION YES FRYE WAS THE BETTER PICK….no reach…….F A C T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn’t see that question about marbury…..how can you say he doesnt care…..marbury did the best that “HE COULD DO”…which wasn’t much but he tried no doubt…….I dont think anybody if they were being FAIR and TRUE would say he half azz’d it…it’s mostley his attitude while doing it that is the problem…..but if he didn’t care then why is he having all of these breakdowns after the fact….thats not fair to ask or say or suggest….I dont think marbury worse creditics would say he didn’t care…he just felt that his way was right and wanted to prove that it could work playing how he wanted too…….but didn’t reach his full potential……

the no biggy comment was being sarcastic to u saying walsh just lost a few first round draft picks ahahaha yo ds your bugging step your game up homie…….haha

that was your weakest argument ever ds dang homie….no wait the comment that you made that nash shouldn’t be criticized because he’s a doll the media……ahahahahah ……now that was the worse….ahahaha….but you try……..

The whole point of the draft is to gamble and take risks. Thats why its a draft. I don’t see where your 1st point comes into this.

The question is who is a better player, Channing Frye or Andrew Bynum? If you really believe the answer is Channing Frye then there’s no argument. You would be alone in that and just completely wrong. You’re reaching Yo Son.

Marbury didn’t care…about winning. That was the whole point of my argument. He never gave a crap about winning. Thats why he’s a career loser. All he cared about was himself. I think that much is pretty obvious.

LOL. That was the whole point of my no biggie response. I knew you were being sarcastic and I gave a sarcastic remark in response. In all honesty would you rather:

A) Be really bad, but have a lot of cap space and for 2 consecutive years have no lottery pick

B) Be really bad, have absolutely no cap space and no prospects of ever having any cap space for the next 5 years and not having 2 lottery picks.

If you really believe Scenario B is the answer, then you are completely wrong yet again and are reaching in order to defend Isiah. You have to step your game up man…This is getting too easy for me.

How are you defining results Yo Son? This is another reach from you. Very typical though I guess.

Yes, Jerry Sloan should be fired because the Jazz didn’t win the finals this year(sarcasm, just because I see have to spell it out for you)

Yes, Nash sucks and shouldn’t be criticized because he was the best player on a team that somehow almost made it to the finals even though they weren’t supposed to(sarcasm again lol)

Uhh, Patrick ewing Jr has serious knee issues and may never make the NBA. Don’t know if you knew that, but its F A C T

So Isiah gets a pass because he’s patching up Layden’s mess but DW doesn’t get a pass because he’s cleaning up Isiah’s mess??? You can be so suspect and hypocritical with your arguments sometimes Yo Son lol.

Again, this is too easy man. I need a better challenge then this. Step your game up man.

lol. Yeah Nash had a really horrible series agains the Lakers. HE was the reason they lost. lol.

That was your weakest argument ever YO SON. lol.

Too easy. Step your game up.

It reminds me of VanGundy and his refusal to use Camby when he first got to the team because he didn’t fit the bruising, rough profile that coach was used to with the departing Oakley.

I NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SOLE REASON THEY LOST….now your typing words onto my screen……I never even commented on that serious really, except to say that NASH should feel the MAJORITY of the brunt………….I mean he is a former 2x MVP who else should get it only taking 8 shots in a game….DUUUUUHHHHH…your still sticking with he’s a great guy so he gets a pass talk….please tell me your backing off of that……

and stop biting my words …….. thnks..

ok if your going to keep taking half of what I say to make your argument againts me then it’s no need for me to respond……..I said in that PARTICULAR situation Frye was the better pick….what dont you understand about that……

BYNUM WOULD HAVE BEEN A BUST IF HE WAS DRAFTED HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never said 1 player was better then the other…….I SAID 1 PLAYER WAS A BETTER PICK BASED ON THE SITUATION…and you CANT give me a legit reason why you THINK I’m wrong about that comment…

NOBODY CAN…..and if you think you can THEN I WISH YOU WOULD!!!!

…and Frye did have a MUCH better rookie season to his credit…was also a rookie of the year candidate…..your making shit up as I read…Im done with you..have a good night…..your petty with your shit at times and Im not of that elk ..haha..I Dont get down like that…you keep doing what you do but if that’s your character as man to be bias and make escuses for others and rearrange the truth to suit your “personal” benefit and not be consistant across the bored then that’s not a good look…and IM good

and it’s TYPICAL ..AAHAHHAHAA

and P.S.

JERRY SLOAN SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!!!!!!

FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND IF ISIAH HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WALSH HAS……….THERE’S KNOW DOUBT WE WOULD BE IN A BETTER SITUATION IF ISIAH WAS THE GM(not president) TODAY……..ISIAH IS BY FAR THE BETTER MAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“I see have to spell it out for you”

BEFORE YOU TRY TO GET CUTE…. GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER……… DEUCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I just slip em $5.

Because dantoni sux.

Based on what? Isiah got the Knicks in the situation where they had to do what Walsh is doing now.

Isiah would have already signed David Lee to a MAX contract.

Hey, BobbyFromBK, Mike D’Antoni has coached a team to 60 wins in an NBA season. You ever accomplish anything in your life?

I still don’t think Rondo ( or Tony Parker) would be a good fit at PG for the Knicks any more than Nash would be an optimal fit for the Triangle in LA.

For D’Antoni’s system to run an effective P&R the PG has to be an excellent outsider shooter, not good at lot of other things.

There’s more to this game than just finding talented players. You have to find players that fit the system you are going to use or change the system. Changing the system usually means changing the coach. In the case of the Knicks, we are rebuilding from scratch. So we are going to draft and sign players that fit.

Rubio is slowly becoming a good 3 point shooter, but you are correct that at this stage he’s not ready to run our system. Parker would not fit at all and neither would Rondo.

You simply can’t just throw players together and run a system.

It doesn’t matter if it’s SSOL, the Triangle, or the Spurs system. Each of those teams drafts and trades for players that are talented that fit and not just the most talented players.

Hey Oak, don’t bother arguing with Yo Son. He’s never wrong because he’s consistant across the bored LOL.

Facts don’t mean anything to him. The fact that Isiah got us into this mess means nothing to him.

AAHAHAHAHAAHA. Spelling isn’t your strong suit so I tried to help out a little bit. My bad.

lmao! Good people have lost their lives for even better suggestions!

anytime a 1 sided coward can say isiah got us into this mess instead of speaking on the whole picture oak u can clearly see where they are coming from……….

and anybody feels that nash shouldnt be creticized then turns around and say yea he’s the reason why they lost lol…when 1 thing has very little to do with the other……..and there “SuperStar” takes ONLY 8 shots in a game…..shows there trully WEAK colors

u played urself stay in your lane…….

stick to spelling b’z because talking ball isn’t your strong suite at all……….can only imagine you playing ball ahahhahahaha

if you read the first part of the post it will tell you oak and others that think simple like you ……that bad decisions were made that put isiah in the situation that we were in…..isiah was put in the worse situation possible and made horrible moves while trying to fix it….now walsh gets to come in and ride on his little pony and it’s being perceived like he’s saving the day but hasnt done shit but dumb salary and fucked up gm’ing in the process…who do you dudes really think your fooling……

and to answer your question for you simple minded dudes….the fact that he is a better drafter and his players has had an impact the past 2 years in the playoffs is why he’s a better choice……anybody can dumb salary…….I DONT SEE ONE OF WALSH’S PLAYERS DOING A DAMN THING…… LET ME KNOW
AND HOW WERE THE PACERS DOING BEFORE AND AFTER THEY RElINQUISHED WALSH POWER FROM HIM…..LOOK HOW HE LEFT THAT SITUATION AHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

NAH NOBODY REMEMBERS THAT…….TYPICAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dump’

Walsh was put in a horrible position too. Isiah was put into a horrible position and only made it worse. You want to make him our drafter? fine. He has a good draft record. But his free agent and trade record is absolutely horrendous.

And all walsh did was clear the cap space to sign 2 max guys which noone thought he could do.

YIKES! No body though a GM could clear cap space? YIKES YIKES!

Any GM could have done very little and let the higher contracts run out!

We have gone 2 years with very little to show for it and a dumb coach! How’s that brillance that no one could do maybe other than you?

I’ll keep asking TKB to put that minimum IQ requirement to get to post on this blog. Too many pet rocks are getting through!

Was Isiah Thomas a good GM? Some of you haters will always have something even if its trying to prove that Isiah is a better GM than Donnie Walsh.

Isiah helped drive this organization into the ground, deep into the ground, deeper than when he got here which was tough to do.

I can’t believe I’m really wasting time trying to convince people that Isiah was terrible. One thing that is undeniable, Donnie is better at not having women charge him with Sexual Harassment. I’m sure MSG wouldn’t want to have that 11.6 million back.

OH and by the way “Isiah’s own”(1 lottery, other late first rounder and last years playoff second rounder….Walsh you better get it together this draft) has had major impacts during the playoffs the past two years in critical situations….oh and I almost for got this year 6th man of the year and the hawks GO TO GUY also had an impact this season and LED his team out the first round……..

ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR MY OAK PLEASE……….
where is any of Walsh’s prospect at….I don’t see them…….what impact are they having in the playoffs…..I don’t know who they are…DO YOU…..how is the pacers franchise doing after walsh left………TELL ME ABOUT IT………..ahahahaha…..
EXACTLY…..

he dumped salary 2 weeks into the season couldnt have been that hard…….now if he got value back like draft picks then he would have been doing something….he tried to demand value back in the jj trade to sac but the Maloof brothers didn’t budge…….

the 1 untradeable player he tries to demand a first round pick for and instead brings him back which resulted him having to trade j hill swaping and losing futre first picks and bringing back Nate who the coach hates..the same coach that didn’t play j hill to increase his trade value to not get robbed the way he did the same coach that he hired that didn’t play marbury to increase his value and the same coach he wanted to use to help lure free agents here can and will be fired if Lebron adn or Wade doesnt want them as there head coach as you can see they have the power to do do to the open coachin vacancies around the league….which as a result was a waste of at least 12mil the past 2 years(I’m sure Dolan would want that money back) on top of coach player debacle that has been exposed to the media as well as coach gm debacle in antoni back stabbing walsh many of times as already mentioned prior if you needed refrences and walsh’s miss drafting miss free agent signing..etc etc …a complete mess……..

oh and on top of that THE MOST IMPORTTAND DRAFT IN NEW YORK KNICK HISTORY he didn’t go over seas to get a read with his own eyes he sent isiah who gave him the green light 2 draft him 2 bad the medical group didn;t do there job…….THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT DRAFT PICK IN NEW YORK KNICK HISTORY once again he didnt go instead sent his scouts(and we saw the outcome of that)..UMMM WTF was he doing that it took him the 3RD time to finally go over there himself to see what is going on………..

just a mess…….

I’m done, you win. Isiah is the best GM in the league. How stupid we were to get rid of him. The starting lineup for next year of Nate Robinson, Jamal Crawford, Jared Jeffries, Zach Randolph, Eddy Curry would have been great.

hahaha…..that’s not what Im saying at all he’s far from the best….he was bad….but let’s be fair across the bored…I always said “if it’s good for the gander then it;s good for the goose”….let’s be equally fair in regards to the criticism and or sympathy…..and we were stupid to let him out of his contract he should have stayed as the scout and or made the drafting decisions…..