Bosh To Heat A “Formality?”

Anyone wanna bet me that he was talking to Pat Riley?

This is becoming such an annoyance.

theres been sooo much tampering going on down here in miami with the FAs. but i gotta hand it to riley, hes real slick. i heard bosh was at a club in miami with some Heat execs. also, a few weeks ago, alonzo mourning and some other miami heat execs invited rudy gay to go with them to haiti for a “charity effort” which i find really suspect because i dont see why they would invite him of all ppl to go there. i believe they were tryin to recruit him.

minny would be perfect for a country boy like bosh………….

…and im getting sick of everyone saying a GM told them this, or sources close to whoever said that…if theyre too chicken shit to name names, then as far as i’m concerned, its all lies.

I could believe it.

I’ve been saying all along I could see him going to Miami very easily.

Bosh, Gay and Wade? Pretty good start.

LMFAO…

At this point, Bosh not going to the Bulls feels like a victory. God I hate the Bulls.

where u think i’m gettin my info from the same place they are gettin it from

REAL-GM..

I heard Bosh with Brandon Tierney and he said a few things that led me to believe he was heading to Miami. He was asked what he didn’t like about NY. First he said he was a country boy and from the South. Then he said he likes to drive to the arena and felt New York was a tough driving town. Anyone who has lived in the South, me unfortunately in redneck heaven right now, knows that New York is a galaxy away from the South.

I also think Miami could offer Toronto a nice package for Bosh, especially getting back their number 1 pick for next season, which they gave up in the Shawn Marion trade.. So say Bosh goes to Miami for the max with Beasley, Miami’s number one pick in 2011 or 2012, and Toronto’s first round pick in 2011, that might work for Toronto, plus open up cap space for Miami.

Joakim Noah is a key ingrediant to Lebron signing with Chicago? really? The same Joaking Noah who had one of his better seasons this past year avg 10 points per game, 11 rebounds per game, 1.6 blocks? Really?

I am not buying it… bank on it, Lebron and Amare to the Knicks….

+100

Edit Anyone not going to the Bulls feels like a victory.

What about this scenario………..

If im Donnie Walsh first thing i do is offer gallo, chandler, curry for joe johnson sign and trade (no choice but to give him max money). with curry at 11.2 m, gallo at over 3 and wilson a little over 2…. this is practically a wash salary wise for arguements sake. NO chance atlanta turns this down if joe johnson says that hes leaving. a stud in gallo, role player in chandler, and expiring contract in eddy curry

sign and trade lee for amare (max… no choice)

i think the suns would want lee to replace amare and lee would go to phoenix… lee and nash would be rediculous running the pick and roll.

now you tell lebron james, hey you wanna play with joe johnson and amare… come to papa for the max. i know lebron would be making less than amare and joe johnson but i can see him being ok with this… he wants to win and its not like he wouldnt make up the money in nyc w endorsements

call up the big fella, the big cactus, non other than SHAQ offer him the vets minimum to play for mike in nyc and the chance to win another ring and fulfill his dream of winning a ring for the king. at the minimum shaq provides a phenomenal defensive presence and veteran leadership. i think shaq takes this.

starting lineup
pg- douglas
sg- joe johnson
sf- the king
pf – amare
c – shaq ….. best starting 5 in game

bench
i offer rafer alston the vets minimum to be your backup pg and mentor toney douglas.
andy rautins… phenomenal shooter and passer, perfect for off the bench
jerome jordan…. hopefully walsh got this right and he can be our backup center.
billy the kid walker – down 30 lbs… kid is ready!

good thing about mikes system is you can play amare at the 5 and lbj at the 4 to spell shaq so jerome doesnt have to play big minutes. also, wouldnt it be great for him to learn from shaq!

I am the biggest danillo gallinari fan. i love that kid. he is my favorite knick by far and i would never trade him. however, this is a scenario where i think donnie can convice lebron james to come…. would he really pass on the chance to play with amare and joe johnson. yeah the bench is kind of weak, but this is a championship caliber team.

this is POSSIBLE if joe johnson and amare want to go to the knicks.

imagine WADE BOSH GAY VERSUS LEBRON JOE JOHNSON AMARE….. holy crap.

+1 million
Joakim Noah has become the leagues most overrated player ever since the lebron to the Bulls talk began.

I think that Bosh to the Heat might be good news. That means that its a two way race between Chicago and NY, and the Knicks supposedly already have one max player willing to sign. If LeBron can’t play with Bosh or Wade, I think that Johnson or Stoudemire are his next best options. The Knicks have an advantage when it comes to signing those guys, because they both played very well under D’Antoni in the past.

i think the knicks could have this

amare
boozer
lebron
gay
paul

how bout that

THATS A BETTER FANTASY RITE…

Like your thinking.

But I do not see MD & DW ever trading Gallo.

Isn’t what this place is for?

how is that a fantasy? what part of that cant happen. tis really not that hard. joe johnson wants to come here according to espn and we can give amare the maxxxxxx.

@ starks I’m hoping you are right. I still think Lebron is coming. Look I may be wrong but I think Lebron just wants be a part of this city. He is a New Yorker in his heart. Yankee fan, Jay Z fan/friend not White Sox, Cubs (lol), not Common Sense Jay Z.

no one is untradable i dont think when you are this desperate. i love gallo so much, but i think walsh would pull the trigger.

While I’d love to have Lebron, Joe Johnson and Amare Staudemire….pretty much my exact dream signings of this off-season your trades just don’t add up. But I like where your heads at.

I agree that no one is untradeable.

But they’ve always talked about Gallo as part of their core.

I don’t see them trading Gallo.

But wait, sources said that bosh was going to chi-town right? Only the players know.

i heard if he goes to the bulls he plans on puttin up better numbers than JORDAN did in 87-88…………..goodluck with that 1 lebron

i think come close to jordan’s 88-89 season

please say how they dont add up.

the knicks mos def can get JOEj thats bout it

“i love gallo so much”

Pause?

lol. man crush on gallo. anyway, has do you like this?

u r rite my bad dude.

how bout this.

bosh
amare
joeJ
paul
lebron

bench

gay
boozer
deron willy
ellis
Al jeff

now thats a complete team

“Joakim Noah is a key ingrediant to Lebron signing with Chicago? really? The same Joaking Noah who had one of his better seasons this past year avg 10 points per game, 11 rebounds per game, 1.6 blocks? Really?”

Guys that do the dirty work are invaluable especially on a team with more than 1 superstar. Noah is a good young center, playing next to LeBron (Bosh?) and Rose he would be perfect. Yes, I would say he’s probably a “key ingredi(e)nt”.

say how this is fantasy though… come on dude. say why this cant happen.

Now you’re thinking.

LOL

I like your thinking – no one is off the table – I like Gallo – but if we could get three primo guys like Joe Johnson, Amare, and the Bron – yeah – gut the roster – even it means dealing Douglas as well. Again – I applaud your scenario.

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/06/new-toronto-raptor-has-hepatitis-b/

For those who wanted Alabi apparently he fell in the draft and wasn’t wanted by some teams because he has Hep B.

If the big three turn us down, and Joe Johnson is willing to come, I say we sign him for the max, because we’d likely have no choice, and hang on to D-Lee for less than the max. Then wait and see what Donnie can work with his cap space.

With Johnson, we’re automatically better than last year, likely a playoff team. Stoudemire is great, but I think Lee is a better value and a fan favorite.

The Knicks should offer Chandler, Douglas, Walker, and Curry in a S&T for Johnson. That would leave them with 2 players under contract. Johnson at 16 mil and Gallo at 3.3. The Knicks should then offer Lee 10 mil. The Knicks could then offer LeBron a max contract, and they would still have almost 10 mil left to fill out the roster.

LeBron- 16.5
Johnson- 16
Gallo- 3.3
Lee- 10
Shaq- 4

Alston- 2
Rautins- n/a
Fields- n/a
Jordan- n/a
Barron- 2
Giddens- 1
summer leaguer

Just an idea lol.

The fantasy of anyone taking Eddy Curry in a S&T. No one is going to take him and pay him $11.3 million to not play. They could just ask for Gallo and Chandler or future draft picks. No need to take Curry back at all.

lol basically same idea as me except you have gallo and lee over amare and douglas in my scenario. i like yours better honestly, bc i am the biggest gallo fan, but i dont think the hawks take curry, douglas, chandler, walker for joe johnson. hope they would though!

Eddy Curry is untradeable. Donnie’s been trying for two years and no takers.

No Amar’e, I don’t want to see him and this “coach” reunited. He wildly underachieved defensively with _’antoni at the helm in Phoenix.

thats not the point. the point is they could either lose joe johnson for nothing or get two young talented pieces… in return they would have to take curry. we could just offer joe johnson the max without the trade. obviousally atlanta could offer him more, but i dont think that extra money would be a make or break decision in joes decision if he in deed does wanna play in ny.

Has I agree you need bangers and role players to win championships but have you ever seen a role player and a banger being more overrated then Noah is right now? I dont think so… guess what Lee is more of a banger and is more skilled and puts out tremnedous numebrs compared to Noah but you never hear if the Knicks sign lee and Lebron….oh wait derrick rose is on the bulls…so what????

Rose is a nice young player…but him and Lebron on the same team….ummm dont think soo.. again its the shills like brousard and greenberg who has a strong love for the bulls that is trying to do their best to steer lebron to Chi town….but trust me on this….Lebron’s favorite city is NYC, his mom wants him to go there, he loves the city, and make no mistake and I dont mean any dissrespect to us Knicks fans but with LeBron it is about being a marketng machine globally and to those of you who have not traveled abroad, NYC is IT!! when it comes to fashion, marketability, and popularity….everyone talks about losing 30 mil if he signs elsewhere besides Cleveland but again people forget the rediculous amount of money LeBron will make once he puts that New York jersey on….

Lebron with Amare, Gallinari, Chandler and Douglas easily wins 60+ games, look what he did with lowly Cavs unreal….You think Chicago or anyone in the east will beat the Knicks? SO all this talk about Chicago having the best chance of winning, they will not if they have to go against LeBron and Amare or Bosh….

people are so gullable listening to the likes of Brousard and co….un real…

They are hyping Noah like he is this great young talent, before this past year where he avg a career high 10 points he was consdiered a major bust….role players you need yes, but hyping up role players??? lol laughable….

well, if rothstein is right and bosh is going to miami, who do you want….. LEE hehe or carlos?

Thank God teams must wait until July 1st to talk to FA… or else………..

First of all Gallo, Chandler and Curry is way too much for Joe Johnson and honestly who cares if ATL would want to trade for him because I LOVE Joe Johnson and have been a HUGE fan of his for years but he’s not a max guy so you either sign him or move on you dont trade for him.

Second the Suns are not in the position the Raptors are with Bosh and would get more for Amare than just Lee and since you used all those guys to get Joe Johnson you wouldn’t have much of anything else to give them.

Now like I said I like where your heads at. I could see us signing Joe Johnson for about $12MM, signing Lebron and sign-and-trade for Amare. I’m just saying you’re scenario doesn’t add up. But I love the result.

And also by the way I do agree, unlike most around here, that we should sign Skip-To-My-Lou to a vet minimum regardless.

We are stuck with Eddy Curry, no amount of wishin’ and hopin and, plannin’ and prayin’ is going to change that fact.

i agree that is ALOT to get joe johnson, but if you want the king you need joe johnson and amare…… overpaying is necessary sometimes.

the suns have NO leverage if amare says he wants to go to knicks. the can have lee whod be perfect with steve.

thanks for post!

Fuck Lee I don’t think it would be wise to resign _avi_ for the amount he wants under any circumstances.

Let’s get this out of the way right now, I’m reporting that LeBron is leaning toward the Cavs, Knicks, Bulls, Heat, Nets and Clippers.

Via Isola’s Twitter

Probably the most accurate out there. lol

did you read what i responded to you? what do you think……

No one here is nearly as big of a Joe Johnson fan as me and I’m telling you he’s NOT A MAX PLAYER.

Nah his contract will have value, but only to a team trying to save money by avoiding the tax, especially with the CBA due to be renegotiated. Unfortunately, it will have the most value at the deadline than it does right now.

Yeah I’m not sure that they would either. They aren’t going to draw in any big free agents this year though, so taking on Curry’s salary might not hurt them too bad, especially if they are getting a young PG who could split time and maybe even take over for Bibby, a starting SF, and a young player with some potential in Walker. That would leave them with a lineup of:

Bibby/Douglas
Crawford/Walker
Chandler/Williams
Josh Smith/Joe Smith
Hartford/Pachulia/Curry

That lineup isn’t even significantly worse than last year, plus they could get good value for Curry after the season starts. They do something similar to the Knicks deal for T-Mac, where they take back a bad but smaller contract, in exchange for some picks and young players. Or else they could trade him for someone like Hamilton, which would allow them to move Crawford back to the bench.

And why would we want Shaq? He’s proven not to work in both the Suns and Cavs systems and is only getting older. Not a smart move.

One interesting thing would be to see if in a sign-and-trade for Amare if we could expand it to get Nash as well. Maybe a Lee, Chandler, Curry for Nash and Amare deal….something like that. Curry’s money coming off the books after the year is going to be a big deal for whatever roster that money’s coming off of.

Then we’d be like an older, more expensive version of the championship-less Suns. Awesome.

“…guess what Lee is more of a banger…”

*stops reading*

_avi_ doesn’t bang more than anyone in the NBA, lol he doesn’t even bang more than anyone in the WNBA.

Nash very well wont even be there. LOL And I’m sure Lebron would love to play with Amare. He already said so much this trade deadline. Having Joe Johnson as well would be a bonus. Its a conversation for naught though unless we can dump Curry’s contract. Unfortunately it will be looks at as more valuable at the deadline but hopefully other GMs know its value and would still take it. And I highly doubt they will trade Gallo no matter how smart it would be if the outcome was JJ, Lebron and Amare. They love him.

I don’t want Carlos either.

No. Thanks.

it’s about money dude
taking less to play with etc never happens so u people need to get that out of there head….

an thats the only way that team gets put together……

But wouldn’t that sort of mean Curry’s contract has now? Atlanta might be willing to take on his contract because they know it will have some value before the trade deadline.

* has value now

defense, defense, defense…… you need someone to defend the paint. amare is not a good defender and there are really no good defensive cener options out there…. unless you want okafor.

shaq brings a ton of positives w him.

Don’t forget DP starting at center!

Thank god for these tweets and updates from every sports personality otherwise how would we know what these FA are going to do..oh wait we still don’t

Via Charlie Villanueva on twitter:

Sorry to break Toronto heart, I love that city, but Chris Bosh is heading to Miami

whats your definiton of a banger? Lee hustles just as much and is a better rebounder without question. Noah has more size and is rougher in the paint..who would you rather have….this conversation is moot since Lee wont be with the knicks my point being that Noah is being overhyped way to much….you urself said he is a banger….

right a banger that avg his best 10 ppg in his career is a real lure for LeBron.. pfffff….not buying…

first off i doubt lebron would come to just play with amare….

he is better off staying in clevland or signing in chicago to play with derrick rose and if joe johnson doesnt come here he will probabbly go to chicago….

you NEED joe johnson and amare if you want the king.

again, i love gallo. i am his biggest fan.

why wont nash be there? he is under contract…….

i agree, but since i live in south fl, and i have to deal with heat fans talkin shit ever since the knicks/heat rivalry…i dont want anyone to go to miami either. i wish wade left miami too.

who do you want then?

that isnt true…. all three amare, joe johnson, lebron would get max deals…..

wat if david lee went to chi with bron
how f’d up would that be

Actually, didn’t LeBron prefer to play with Jamison rather than Amar’e? At least that was reported.

If Phoenix was willing to make a trade for Hickson+ for Amar’e what if they revisit that trade and the Cavs out of desperation agree to part with him?

I think the Cavs are the dark horse/wild card, if they somehow were to be able to make a significant trade it would put pressure on LeBron and make it that more of a slap in the face to that team if he leaves. If he plans on leaving he better not drag it out and give them a chance to pull off a miracle.

I think the J Hill trade us gonna hurt us in the long run.

tell charlie go grow some damn eye brows….bosh 2 nyk!

Here is my latest theroy:

Bosh told LBJ that he is going to Miami. Knicks caught wind of it and are scurring around to sign either JJ ASAP(Lebron’s choice).

LBJ, I believe, said he wanted to play with JJ.

So Bulls would be a little less appealing with no Bosh or JJ for that matter.

It’s about as solid of a theroy as all the other crap being written by the media. So let’s go with it.

so your saying the suns would rather have hickson or david lee…. i know you hate lee, but that is absurd imo.

lee and nash running the pick and roll would be unstoppable. lee and nash would fit great.

last year, the suns couldnt have david or hickson…. now they can. hickson is a nice bench player… lee is an all star. fact.

“Lee hustles…”

*stops reading*

Lee hasn’t hustled 2006.

He doesn’t force jump balls, he doesn’t dive on the floor/into the stands and he doesn’t take charges. He’s softer than wet Charmin.

bron/wade/bosh/gay. otherwise no thank u.

so if you cant get any of those four…. then what???????

charlie just tryna get some attention

sorry to break all your hearts but AL chuckster will be the knicks biggest f.a signing..

How awesome would it be if the Bulls struck out in free agency?

Wade, Bosh, and Gay to the Heat
LeBron, Johnson, and Amare to the Knicks

Best new rivalry in sports!

Lee is not a true all-star.

David Stern took pity on a pitiful franchise and added him. If he had been picked by other coaches than I could respect it, but he was the only player from a losing team that made the squad.

Also, to be fair the trade proposed was for more than just Hickson.

i know you hate lee, but he is an all star and thats the bottom line.

agreed the trade was more the hickson, but nothing they have could amount to lee imo.

lee is an all star it wont be hard for the suns to tell their fans we have replaced amare with lee. he would be great with steve nash running the pnr.

What is Toronto getting back from Miami? Also, what if they stonewalled the S&T??

For instance, if they wanted David Lee and not Michael Beasely, would they just cave to Bosh to accommodate his exit? I doubt it.

Wrong

Yeah but his contract was never valuable until now so your point makes no sense.

“tell charlie go grow some damn eye brows….bosh 2 nyk!”

It’s a hereditary condition douche.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alopecia_areata

they all can get maxes if they get rid of gallo an curry

I said more value meaning it has some value now, but it will increase toward the deadline.

I think I’m gonna have to stay off the site until Thursday it too much and no one knows anything.

they all can get maxes if gallo an curry are off the books

Good theory.

Hopefully Miami will have to take Turkoglu or Calderon back. That would officially eliminate them from the LeBron sweepstakes.

the reply to comment is messed up

chris broussard said knicks will offer max to joe johnson.

“agreed the trade was more the hickson, but nothing they have could amount to lee imo.”

Nothing from a 60+ winning team could amount to a player who plays one end of the floor and played for a team that has averaged 50+ losses since he was drafted (5 years).

I agree. That’s why I said the Cavs could be a dark horse.

I wouldn’t compare him to Lee (totally different player) but I agree — Noah has become wildly overrated.

They talk about his defense like he’s Mourning in his prime, but he struggles guarding big centers like Bynum, Bogut,etc.

I like him but he’s at a mismatch against those beefy players. His entire value is his defense/rebounding. But if he’s not great defensively, how valuable is he?

that will be a tragedy

Damn. Didn’t quote right. Was responding to “starks” post about Noah being overrated.

He said “they might”. Idle speculation on his part. Wake up on Thursday.

Tommy Dee, your quote function is broken!

You’ve heard “Miami for Bosh” from me all winter. He has said repeatedly that he is a warm weather guy. Miami is a great city for wealthy young people; multi-cultural, international, etc.. That was the buzz all winter every time that I went over to Miami.

Wade isn’t going anywhere else and, as much as I choke on the words as a Knick’s fan, Miami has Riley, a proven winner.

dino2008-Incase you haven’t watched D’Antoni doesn’t care about defense, defense, defense and Shaq sucks now. He would not have much value in NY at all besides slow down the offense. Learn from the past dont repeat it. Shaq slowed down the Suns and hurt he Cavs. Makes no sense to bring him in.

HaS-I know you meant Curry’s contract gets more valuable. My response was to JeffM729 who said we couldn’t trade Curry’s contract for the last two years which is true but I was pointing out its never been this valuable.

feramorz-First of all the Suns are one of the better teams in the league. Second Steve Nash is old for a basketball player but is a soccer player in reality and is still one of the better PGs in the league. Third I dont remember Lebron ever being on their squad. If we’re talking about Nash/JJ/Amare/Lebron I’ll gladly go to war with that against anyone. And thats only 4 of a starting 5. LOL, at least think about what you’re responding to before trying to shoot it down.

Didn’t Charlie Villanueva play with Bosh in Toronto?

I think they’re still buddies. Not good.

Chris Broussard knows as much as we do….nothing.

Really messed up. My reply ended up way down the page from where I was.

they really gotta stop

Boots-Yeah its been happening all night. Made for some very confusing convos and responses tonight. LOL

your bugging now HaS, boozer is a hustler (great hands and very agressive) he’s like an “oak” type of player with his physicality

your bugging now HaS, boozer is a hustler (great hands and very agressive) he’s like an “oak” type of player with his physicality

I agree with Has here. Noah would be more valuable than Lee on a championship team IMO.

That is not a real knock on Lee though. Lee is a great rebounder and has some serious offensive skill. But defense wins championships and Lee has been less than apathetic in his defensive play.

I like Boozer much more than HaS I’m guessing, but there is no way he is remotely comparable to Oakley. He plays very little defense, but I guess compared to Lee he is Oakley-like lol.

And I agree Noah has become somewhat overrated because of a good playoff series. And that takes nothing away from Noah, who is a good young player who can grow more. But offensively speaking, he is close to useless as far as a post presence goes, but he’s a good finisher off pick and rolls and is developing a jumper more and more.

Defensively he is very good, if a little on the small side compared to guys like Perkins and Bynum.

I agree he is not as good as some on here make him out to be, but he’s a good young player who can develop more, and one who I would take in a millisecond over David Lee at this point. And that is a knock on Lee.

Dino,

Atlanta will sign and trade Joe Johnson, if there is a benefit. I just don’t see them spending 11.3 million for Eddy Curry, under the circumstance of getting even Gallo and Chandler.

For instance would you trade sign and trade David Lee for Peja (15.3 million) and Collison? I don’t think any Knick fan would agree to do that. We are willing to let Lee walk away. No one is saying we’ve got to get something for David Lee. It’s more like don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Dino,

Atlanta will sign and trade Joe Johnson, if there is a benefit. I just don’t see them spending 11.3 million for Eddy Curry, under the circumstance of getting even Gallo and Chandler.

For instance would you trade sign and trade David Lee for Peja (15.3 million) and Collison? I don’t think any Knick fan would agree to do that. We are willing to let Lee walk away. No one is saying we’ve got to get something for David Lee. It’s more like don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

(posted this below, thinking it was a reply, sorry)

Toronto could just get back draft picks, Miami owns Toronto’s pick next year, and a trade exception. They don’t need to match salary because they are taking back less.

y doesnt walsh trade eddy curry’s contract to portland for brandon roy and greg oden.. tht would give us a little more then a million in cap space nd we aquire a shooting gaurd nd a center.. roy is prob the 2nd best shooting gaurd in the league after kobe.. nd oden has potentiall to be a great center in the years too come, he just is battling thru injuries. once healthy oden is a monster.. plus we would have more money to sign 2 max’s

Lineup..
Pg-Bron-Td
Sg-Roy – rautins
Sf-Gallo-Chandler-fields
Pf-Bosh- garcia
C-Oden-jordan-barron

tht is a lineup tht would be impossible too beat and plus the knicks would still have more then a million too spend in cap space.

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