Report: CP3 Wants Out

Miami is not on the list, which is very good. Its nice to see us on the short list, but I don’t know how we can swing it without decimating our roster.

I’d be willing to trade Gallo or Randolph (not both), Chandler, Douglas & a boatload of second round picks (I’d say a first round pick, but gee, we don’t have any for awhile).

any and everything can go. Just leave enough for a max next summer and if we have to take back a contract I would rather Peja over Okafor.

I’d also trade Curry’s expiring contract for a longer term “bad” contract

Are there any restrictions on when we can trade the players we just acquired or signed? That could make it difficult to put together a package before the season starts that doesn’t include Gallo.

I really want to take a break from this speculation stuff now. That’s obviously good news(if its true) and that makes me very excited, but the whole Lebron thing was too much for me. I’m surprised this isn’t too much for most people on here it seems. I guess the uncertainty is exciting, but if it doesn’t go our way(as is normal) it just sucks and is a big let-down.

players signed not in sign and trades cannot be traded until december 15th of that year or three months after the signing date…whichever is later

I guess we can’t trade Felton for a while so CP3 & Felton in a small backcourt in spurts could be fun to watch. There would be a hell of alot of people open on the wing after collapsing on these guys along with a few tomahawks for STAT. I say trade em rautins and Jerome Jordan, yeah right. Who knows what it will take but we do know that they are broke. Hopefully Donnie will try to use this to his advantage and steal him away.

I’d trade my left testicle to have Chris Paul and a max contract next summer not even joking I just wanna see meaningful basketball in new York again it’s been to long…..

I would trade Curry,Chandler and a couple of 2 round picks with cash considerations. I’ll also would take James Posey and a second round pick.

Get it done Donny, and do it soon as possible.

Nobody on the roster, is “untouchable” for Paul.

Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry, Bill Walker + 1stRd pick

They can have whatever they want except Amare. Gallo and Felton or Randolph and Felton if they want. If we have to throw in a 1st round pick they can have that too. CP3 is the best PG in the NBA and my name aint STARBURY.

CP3
Azubuike
Chandler
Amare
Tariaf

Bench
douglas
Bill Walker
Fields
Timofey Mozgov
Curry
Jordan
Rautins

Trade talks are more interesting though

Curry/ Gallo/ Chandler and a pick sounds right. We wouldn’t need Gallo if we still have max room for Mello next summer.

Curry, Douglas, Turiaf, Chandler, both second rounders we just acquired plus more if needed for Chris Paul, Omeka Okafor.

+1 That’s why I don’t want to get into specifics speculating. Hurts my head.

Exactly. To me, this is one of those Call me when CP3 is wearing blue and orange type of situations. This Lebron/free agency summer took too much out of me. I can’t possibly get excited for anything potential anytime soon.

Are you serious??? they would never take that. They rather have nelson and Pietris from orlando. Lakers dont have anything to offer and if it aint broke don’t fix it. We have to lose our best players other than Amare.

Rautins for Paul straight up. I think NO jumps on that offer!

Gallo and Chandler sounds good but if they take Curry they would have to be doing us a favor.

Yes. Our players cannot be traded for three months after signing or until December 15th, whichever is later.

cp3/melo/amare new big 3??? you guys cant tell me with a straight face if cp3 comes here that melo is not signing here next year

i think gallo would rather forfeit all his money and go home to italy before going to oklahoma city

But it would give them salary cap room.

That’s clearly not enough.

We’ll have to trade away Gallinari or Randolph + Chandler (maybe + a first round draft pick)

I like Gallo but if he is part of the price, he’s gotta go. I will personally help pay to have his knicks tattoo removed!!!

Randolph, Felton, and Azubuike/Chandler for Paul. Seems fair. They aren’t taking Amare, and I’d like to hold on to Gallo. But we probably have to give up Gallo, which is fine, I guess.

trade Curry,Chandler take James Posey no max contract next summer no carmello

If we trade Curry we will not have enough capspace to sign an max FA next summer.

Oklahoma?????????

if we can swing a trade for paul, anyone is expendable. Randolph/Chandler/future 1st?

but if by some miracle this does happen, Felton must be traded ASAP for a SG w/ an expiring contract.

I think Paul is slightly overrated even though he IS a great player.

Your right!!!!!

Just trade anyone not named Amare!!!!!!!! lol

Wilson Chandler, Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry, and a future first round draft pick for Chris Paul is the best scenario IMO.

Right now, I would say Orlando. They get a solid PG back and Dwight/CP3 are good friends. We need to put together a SICK! Package if we want CP3 in NYC. Trade whoever except Amar’e. I really don’t care. The only way we will win Championships in the next 6 years is if we get CP3 and Melo. It will be fun to compete with our new squad. But Studs = Rings! I would trade gallo, randolph, and felton… If that ensures us both CP3 and Melo! I would do it in a heart beat.

The key is not taking back Okafor. If we take his contract, there goes our cap space. The problem is that New Orleans will want to dump Okafor to truly rebuild.

We need to Keep Curry we dont want no part of that Omeka Okafor contract. If they insist we take Omeka we can give them Felton, Gallo OR Randolph and Curry. They don’t get Gallo and Randolph if we have to take Omeka’s contract.

Felton, Randolph/Gallo/Cnadler and Curry

I love Gallo and want to keep him but I’d give up that combo and pretty much any other to get CP3 with Amar’e.

Felton (~7.5)
Chandler (2.1)
Turiaf (4.0)
Randolph (1.9)
Curry (11.3)
1 future 1st rounder

for

Paul (14.9)
Okafor (11.5)
Future 2nd rounder(s)

PG: Paul/Douglas
SG: Azubuike/Walker
SF: Gallo/Fields
PF: Amare/TBD
C: Okafor/Mozgov

NO gets cap flexibility, a couple young dudes, an LSU product, picks, and some bigs.

NY keeps the guys at SG they have. Gets a defensive foil for Amare in Okafor. Fields gets some PT. D’Antoni has a shorter bench so dudes won’t waste on his bench as he runs 8-9 guys. Keep TD to rest Paul in case he gets hurt AGAIN. Keep Gallo, a better shooter than Randolph. Maybe sign Earl Barron to be backup 4? Taking Okafor does hurt Melo chances, however.

I think they would rape us for Gallo, Chandler and Gallo…not sure if that would be worth it. If we are going to beat Miami, it’s not going to be because our superstars are better than theirs (impossible). It’s going to be because our supporting cast is better, and this trade would leave us with nothing surrounding amare and paul.

I just got over this whole LBJ thing. I think it’s too early for me to start dating again. I don’t need a rebound, I need a long term relationship! lol

Sorry @ NYknicks19

Scratch that

Felton, Chandler, Turiaf + 1stRd pick

Before 12/15, the Knicks don’t have enough assets to get this deal done, unless they do Gallo/Chandler + Curry and picks to get Paul and Okafor. Even then, this puts the Knicks way over the cap and NO holds a number of trade exceptions.

Walsh should call NO and say what do you want for Paul? Wait 5 seconds for a response, then say done. We cant trade amare or felton until Dec so anyone else is available. Start paul at the point, felton at the 2 and amare at 4. Anyone else is available. I was thinking of an offer of Curry (expiring contract), TD and their choice of Galo or randolph. Obv Chandler is available too. TD, Galo, Curry for Paul works out perfect for salary cap. About 15 million on both sides.

Respect your opinion BUT CP3 in 07-08 08-09 had two of the best seasons ever for a point guard

lol

That has always been my biggest concern.

The Knicks can’t trade away too many players in my opinion.

The hardest part about that trade is finding two Gallo’s to deal.

I don’t think he is overrated. He is good at everything. He chooses to pass when he knows he can score and he plays good defense. the only pg in the NBA that stands close is Williams (Utah)

Agreed.

But I don’t think Paul’s going to sustain that level of play.

I dont think they would want Felton anyways, Collison can step right in

Felton has to be in any trade for CP3 or we can’t go after Melo, I think.

As far as I know, the players we received from GS can only be dealt on their own. As in a 1-for-1 deal, so they would not be in a package.

No way should we include Gallo in this trade. CP3 just came off major knee surgery, who knows how well he will come back from that. I want to see how he plays for a few months before getting rid of all our depth for him.

haha my bad, def meant to put randolph

True,

But 20 P and 10 A 4 R 2.5 A a game are very realistic

you are right that is alot of room next year

Not True

+1

Deron Williams is a better player than CP3 but gets no recognition…

If NO decides we can provide the best package, I am thinking they would want TD, Chandler, Randolph and picks. It really depends though, how NO views the players. They could have AR rated higher then Gallo and vice versa.

I am still trying to figure out how the people in the article are convinced he will be traded before the start of the season. I can’t figure out how he can force a trade when he is locked up for 2 years.

Maybe I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure that if we get CP3 we have to include Curry for money to work, and therefore won’t have cap space next year. I’m not complaining about that since I think CP3 is worth it but just making it known

Its not? How so?

and if your right we don’t need Felton and Paul on the same team.

I do think that at this point we need Mello more than Paul. Just my opinion.

i always confuse okc and NO….idk why

Gallo has a bad back, Paul has a bum knee, there in the same boat in that aspect.

Chris Paul however is a franchise player everyone on the roster is tradeable for Paul.

yeah, honestly, out of our 3 young guys (chandler, gallo, AR), i like AR the most..but, i would be ok with keeping one of them in a trade for cp3

+1 hes a closer/late game scorer the team needs.

@erik

Players like CP3 come every 10 years. Players like Gallo come every in every draft. Gallo has one good thing and thats his three point shot. Love Gallo but for a player like CP3…COME ON MAN!

I dont want to speculate any more. That bastard LeBron took it all out of me. If CP3 is on the table then we need to get that deal done. It doesnt matter who we give up. He is someone to build around.

LOL you want to trade Randolph, you just got him after all this time.

Chandler, Toney Douglass, Curry, 1st round pick next year.

We take back Paul and Okafor, and hope keeping Gallo and Randolph makes up for passing on Melo.

+1

The NBA soap Opera continues,, this week its staring CP3, who knows for next week, man this is better than anything on TV.. LOL
I’ve been saying this now, this summer changed everything and now all the premire players will join forces in big market teams,, (ORL might not be a big market but its pretty good place to live/work. & the city is on the rise)

lmao

“Players like CP3 come every 10 years”

True

“Players like Gallo come every in every draft”

Not necessarily true

The question is, what position is New Orleans gonna play your left testicle at?

On second thought, don’t answer that.

+1

IF everyone’s available for CP3 (and they should be), you have to keep max room in ’11 for Melo. There’s no sense giving up Gallo and Curry to take back Okafor. No go. Randolph/Chandler/Felton/Azubuike/(2) 2nd Rd.

@ Feramorz..
like that move alot, IDK I think the other teams will covet AR, he’s so easy to fall in love w/ especially in a trade scenario’s…

If we need to include Curry’s expiring to get it done, I would rather trade for the best point guard in the NBA now than hope that I can get a max next year, especially with the whole CBA issue that’s coming up.

I dont know, I thought Melo was more important also but if you think about MIAMI. The only player that the big three wont be able to guard is CP3. They can put Lebron on Melo and it is an equal match up. They put Bosh on Amare and it is an even match up. CP3 would be matched up with Chalmers. I would take that match up over the Amare and Melo match up.

Easy deal to make here is:

NY receives:

Paul

Hornets receive:

Douglas
Chandler
Gallinari

the Celtics 2nd Rd pick, the Suns 2012 2nd Rd pick, and the Warriors 2nd round Picks in 2012 and 2013.

That should be more than enough for CP3

Maybe we should wait first to see what happens with Mello. If he signs the extension then we should go after Paul aggressively.

Great point!!!!!!

chandler randolph curry felton

cp peja’s expiring contract

This would be deep azz team:

Paul
Azubuike
Walker
Stoudemire
Turiaf

Felton – the angry backup 1
Randolph -primary backup 4/5
Fields – primary backup 2/3
Mosgov – the irate 3rd string 5
Ewing Jr. – 3rd string 2/3
Jordan- 4th string center
Rautins – 4th string 2/3 & 3rd string 1

Curry – 13th mandatary player who is inactive and warms the bench forever

Gallo is a role player and I will be happy if he is as good as Rashard Lewis or Hedo Turkoglu or Tony Kucoc(bulls). He is a role player and not a all-star. He is definetly not a superstar.

We gotta make the move now, we can’t wait.. We just waited 2yrs for Nada!!
Don’t wait strike ASAP, if Melo wants to come we can work it out..

Deep azz team?

No.

Why would Hornets swap Peja and Curry since both are expiring? Peja is the better player and could be a valuable deadline asset if he proves healthy while Curry is, we all know what Curry is.

Essentially your trade is Felton, Chandler, and Randolph of CP3.

Why would the team want Felton when Collison proved last year that he is already a starting caliber PG? Unless they want to waste nearly $8 MM on two starting PGs, then that would make sense, which it doesn’t.

Chandler and Randolph for CP3 is not enough.

The Knicks must keep either Chandler or Gallinari to play shooting forward.

Felton at backup point and Randolph off the bench is pretty good.

this probably makes it more clear that Melo definetly wants to come and they really want to it in NY for the Knicks,, Melo,Amar’e,CP3 mentioned it..

we didn’t listen when Wade, and LB said they wanted to one day play together too.. And i know more than a few of you guy’s caught some of those interviews

Did Peja play that much last yr?

i know he had a nice run w/ CP a few yrs back but what did he do last yr??

no offense but the Hornets dont want your balls

Gallinari will be a MUCH better basketball player than Kukoc and Turkoglu.

He would’ve been a top 5 pick in this year’s draft… in last year’s draft as well.

Your 3rd best player and 4th best player come off the bench because your 2 best players play the same positions. It is not a great core in my opinion…

You’re right, i def dont think Gallo or any of our other guys are superstars, and CP3 is the best pg and a top 10 player in the league, no doubt.
…I’m just saying that, hypothetically, if we can add cp3 and melo, Miami’s big 3 still overwhelms ours, wade and LBJ are on a whole another level. We would have to beat them with our supporting cast, which would include an anthony randolph or gallo, otherwise we’d be capped out like they are, and our only option would be to add the juwan howards of the world for vet minimums

Since you put it that way. I guess you would have to pull the trigger if it were a sure thing.

@mucha
Tony Kukoc was a very good role player who could drive to the basket. I hope Gallo will be better But Tony and Turk has proven that they can show up in big playoff moments.

good point erik

I think we would all do that trade, but the problem is Felton can’t be traded until 12/15 and Paul may be dealt before then.

I’m inclined to trade Gallo, TD, Chandler, 2nd rounders and a future 1st for Paul.

Not sure if we have enough cap space to make that work though.

Paul
Azubuike
Randolph
Amare
Turiaf

After 12/15 I would trade Felton for an expiring contract.

It would be great if NO could send us Paul + a trade exemption so that we could send them Felton after 12/15 for Peja.

That way NO would be trading Paul + Peja for Gallo, Chandler, TD, Felton + 2 2nd rdrs and a future first rd pic.

That could be NO’s starting line up right there:
Felton/Collision
Chandler/TD/Thorton
Gallo/Chandler
West
Okafor

We would have Peja and Curry coming off the books so we can sign Melo.

So does Gallo, Felton, Chandler, TD and pics beat Nelson, Ryan Anderson, and Pietrus?

Does NO really want a new PG or do they want to hand the reigns over to Collision?

2011-2012 Lineup
Paul
Walker
Melo
Amare
Randolph

Bring on LeBron!

Okafor 10/11 11/12 12/13
11.795 12.792 13.79

CP3 10/11 11/12 12/13
14.940 16.5 17.7

Knicks would need to include Turiaf, who has a player option in 11/12. If they had to take on Okafor and CP. If in 11/12 they would have need to trade or let go current non guaranteed contracts such as Gallo, Chandler, Randolph, TD, Bill Walker. I am assuming that whoever does not go in the CP3 trade would go in an Melo trade. The Knicks would need to trade Felton in the Melo trade to for Melo, CP3, Okafor, Mozgov, AMare and fillers. We can only get Melo in a trade and not be able to sign him in free agency if we take on Okafor and CP3

Gallo

that sounds the most reasonable…
i love gallo and randolph, much like you mucha.

who would you rather keep gallo or randolph?

i actually think gallo is a safer bet to be at least a GOOD player. i think randolph has a little more downside bc he cant shoot and supposedly he can be a little lazy(or something like that)…at the least gallo will always be able to shoot and stretch the floor…imo

wat u think?

Amare, The russian and Felton cannnot be dealt until dec 15th, so forget them. Now, u better start with Gallo and Randolph along with a willingness to take Okafor’s money because that is the only way we are getting Paul. Curry’s contract will have to be in the deal.

I would trade Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Anthony Randolph and a future 1st round draft pick for Chris Paul.

… And then trade Raymond Felton to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Wade would guard Paul.

I agree, but last yr the saying was CP3 over Dwill..

the trade would have to be a three team deal to find a home for Felton. at 2 years 16 mil he has a semi reasonable contract..

unfortunately he cant be moved for 90 days.. but NoLa dont want him with Colison in line.

tough situation.. as we cant move our best assets in multi player deals.

obviously i’d make anyone available for a 25 year old top three PG who is first team all defense.

For a player like that, you give up anything but Amare. NO wouldn’t want his contract anyway and I wouldn’t offer it.
Second, if they’re even humoring the idea, he’ll come with Okafor’s tiny contract, which means losing the chance in the upcoming FA.
Third, there are plenty of other teams that have better assets to offer. The Magic stand a more than solid chance with Jameer in the supposed scenario. Our advantage (for any sort of trade, stepping out of the Paul context) is that we have cheap, young players with unproven potential. Imo, we can draw up tons of scenarios and none would be humored by NO, unless you’re willing to take on Okafor, and not many teams would want his contract.

Turk is a beast.. he plays big in big games.. I like him more than Toni and Galo..

I see Galo as a Tony Kuccoch too.. very good role player

What about Gallo, Azubuike, TD and Randolph straight up for Paul

Insert Chandler at the 3.

Paul
Walker
Chandler
Amare
Turiaf/Mozgov

Next season sign Melo

Paul
Chandler
Melo
Amare
Mozgov/Turiaf

That is an awesome team

I hate to give up Gallo AND Randolph, but that is likely what it will take to get Paul, and it will be worth it.

We get Paul, we get Melo.

I know Kukoc was a very good basketball player but Gallinari’s been better than Kukoc at this point in their respective careers (2y). Gallinari was a MUUUUUUUUUUCCCCHHH better prospect than Hedo Turkoglu when he came into the league and his numbers tend to prove it.

Gallinari’s the best euro prospect since Dirk Nowitzki man. He is a role player today but he’ll probably be All-Star in a couple of years.

Gallo reminds of DETLEF SCHREMPF

Gallo will be a hundred times better than Hedo.

Why not, what we got to lose??

None of our players are all star caliber..

LOL ..

CP3!!
Who could we deal Ray Felton to?

Wade can’t guard paul. Paul would embarass him. this is not kobe on wesbrook or kobe on Rondo because paul is a good perimeter shooter. wade just cant back off and let him shoot the jumper.

nobody until mid season

+2 (if it were even possible).

I’d rather have patience and wait for D Williams. Whether our chances this season are good or bad, there’s at least a young core with a couple of payers with upside that could gain value as time passes. We all want to be competitive, but to say that it’s possible to have Melo and Paul without giving up Gallo, Randolph, Chandler, Azubuike and Turiaf is just to pipedream. Denver and NO would be more than right in asking any of those players, if not all of them.
To me, Paul is arguably the best PG in the league, but any sort of trade (with any team) would require the receiving team to absorb Okafor. The smart move would be getting a thirs team that actually wants Okafor (in CP3 impossible scenario).

try and hang on to randolph anyone else..preferably felton chandler and someone else plus two second rounders would be great..no sense holding on to felton hes not gonna want to back up maybe the best pg in the nba

I think Okafor is in the deal, we have to clear 25Mill in cap room.. Tough to do.. Especially since half the team joined the past 2 weeks or so..

all i know is Eddy is definetly in this trade, it makes sense all nba gm’s who no what they are doing do this.. And Low market teams also value draft picks so we gotta throw that in too..

Again, like Lebron, this could turn us into immediate contenders.

Dont expect the Hornets to do us any favors.

Im seeing people say they wouldnt include curry in a deal bc it would hurt our chances of getting melo…i know that bc miami got 3 studs everyone thinks we need 3 guys.

but i think that if we can get paul and okafor (i think N.O. would love to get rid of his contract) for curry, chandler, felton and either a future no. 1, bill walker, or some 2nd rounders, then who cares about melo??? all im saying is before this summer alot of ppl thought gallo could eventually be a solid no. 3 option on a good team…

if we could somehow keep randolph and gallo (maybe a pipe dream, but if we take back okafor maybe not) then i think we would have a legitimate championship contender.

Paul
Azibuike
Gallo
Amare
Okafor
with randolph still on the roster. i think gallo could develop into the late game closer. hes not just a shooter, imo, hes a scorer…

No chance NO takes that offer. It’s nothing for what they’re giving up.
A trade of that magnitude (and even fathoming that Paul would be traded alone without Okafor) would require this team to shed at least Gallo, Randolph, Douglas and Turiaf.

not randolph. randolph is a big time young talent that we need since we wont have another first round pick in a while. Id trade

Gallinari
Chandler
Douglas
Curry
Walker

plus a future first rounder and 2 second rounders (which weve stocked up on for

Chris paul and darius songaila i tried this trade and it works so what do you guys think

The only thing that makes sense is to wait 90 days until Felton can be moved, it wouldn’t make sense to trade for Paul and keep Felton.

Tony Douglas, Chandler, Azubuike, second round picks. Curry if they will take it. Randolph to. If yo last name ain’t Gallonari or Stoudimire you can go lol

jordan could not guard iveraon

Paul 6’1 wade is 6’5 that is a mix match that favors the offensive player.

I’m still wondering why we didn’t sign Anthony Morrow (poor mans Joe Johnson IMO), Azabukie must be alot better i guess.

If Denver and NO were actually willing to lose their franchise players (which they aren’t) they’d ask for both of them and Randolph, and rightly so.

why? since we dont have a legit two guard i think felton and paul would make up a very nice backcourt. both fit dantonis system perfectly and complement eachother well.

Paul
Felton
Randolph
Amare
Turiaf…

or
Felton
Chandler
Gallinari
Amare
Turiaf

with Randolph and douglas on the bench plus we keep all the picks plus we keep currys expiring i think donnie preety much said bye to paul(for atleast two years) when he signed felton

No chance they’re willing to trade Paul alone. They’d want to get rid of Okafor.
I remember NJ didn’t accept the trade because it came with him, and then they did a marvelous job in the FA.

The rumor says he wants to be traded before the start of the season, so the Knicks don’t have 90 days.

Can’t believe I’m saying this but if we don’t get CP3, I truly hope he gets dealt to the Lakers.

Only 1 motivation: beat the Heat. I used to hate LA but LeBron changed all that. I bet I’m not alone on this one here either.

“with randolph still on the roster. i think gallo could develop into the late game closer. hes not just a shooter, imo, hes a scorer…”
Let’s wait and see if he’s improved his game since last season, he still has a lot to prove. I hope the best for him, but to say that he’s a late game scorer is stretching a bit. If he can become that it’d be great.
Taking on Okafor would mean losing any sort of flexibility moving forward, and that’s the one thing Walsh has been trying to do with the deals he’s made thus far (except for Amare), so I don’t see it happening.
In a farfetched world, I even see a trade for Melo more likely.

Orlando has the best chance to put a deal together.. assuming they can spin Jameer Nelson to a third team and use whatever they get back in the deal..

VC has an 18 mil TEAM option for 11/12 . . maybe the Magic take Okefor and play him at the 4 with Rashard Lewis at the 3 ..and put Gortat’s relatively reasonable/movable mid level deal n the mix..

that would be a sick front court..

+1

I would think if the Knicks going to get CP3 in a trade, they would have to give the Hornets whatever they wanted. As Stoudemire can not be insured, he would be the only player that would be off the Hornets’ radar.

So I would say start with Gallo, Randolph, and first round picks in 2014 and 2016 as a starting point.

Keep the rooks, Amare and Gallo. Everyone else is up for grabs. If this doesn’t work, Knicks still have a good group of young players.

maybe they spin Jameer to Denver for JR Smith’s expiring deal and use him in the deal to NoLA..

\Jam can play with/behind Billups and give Melo hope that he has a future in Denver.

If that was even true, I’d say he goes to the Magic, or even Charlotte.
I’d give anything to have Paul, but I doubt NO would trade him without Okafor and I seriously doubt if we have more than 2 pieces that present an attraction to NO (beside the cheapness of the contracts).
And no chance they’ll take on Curry.

Start the deal off without Gallo or Randolph but if they insist on one, give in.

That’s by far the most balanced out scenario I’ve heard (and “surprisingly” enough, it doesn’t involve this team), and I agree, if the Magic are smart in choosing their 3rd team, they can make it happen.
If your scenario becomes reality, Melo doesn’t become a FA.

yeah.. nightmare scenario for us..

oh to be a knicks fan.

i hear wat ur saying. i dont think gallo is a late game scorer, yet. i think right now hes a scorer, not just a shooter, and hopefully he can become a late game shooter.

if we have paul, amare, gallo, and okafor then we dont need that much more flexibility…that group of four plus douglas, randolph, walker/azubuike, and turiaf (plus mozgov and fields) is a championship contender imo…

randolph, chandler and a 2nd rounder….done deal.

Somebody who finally makes since and that probably would happen! Why? Neither team has to wait for the Dec deadline for any newly acquired Knick players!

Gall, Douglas, Chandler and picks, but I rather try to give up all second round picks instead!

Whatever they do, they can not mess with Curry’s contract! The Melo man will definitely come if we get Paul. If NO don’t want our offer, I rather wait for MELO than Paul. I have faith Felton can do the job.

I realize I am late to the party but since most of the entries above don’t work from a cap perspective…my 2 cents:

I just want to start by saying this rumor seems bogus to me. Just a gut feeling.

Ok, got that off my chest:

Randolph, Chandler, Walker, Curry for Songaila and CP3.

N.O. gets 3+mm cap relief this year and 13mm next year. Throw in the potential upside of AR, Chandler and Walker.

Would N.O. do this trade? Not a chance even with all the draft picks NY owns in ’11 and ’12. But this is probably the best trade the Knicks could offer and live with.

The Knicks would be a better trade partner next year when they can absorb Okafor. I haven’t looked at it from other teams perspective but I assume one of the other teams has to be able to do at least as well as NY.

Dino I like your positive outlook but if you have a chance at getting CP3 and if they ask for too much your content with what we have then I guess this is a waste of a season. What we have ain’t much to speak of if we can’t offer anything that will allow the Hornets to trade CP3 to us. Our young players don’t excite me to want to go to a Knick game to see them sorry.

Use Curry in the Melo trade

That would be a smart move!

OMG..this is insane. First off is Donnie, Danny, and Dolan still calling the shots. If so CP3 and Melo should dream of playing together elsewhere. Those clowns are terrible from a management perspective. I say give’em Danny boy and whoever else is availble from the knicks organization from front office down to the Curry & the towel boy. Then CP3 should strongly consider coming to NY. Otherwise go to LA or Orlando.

plz excuse the typos

Denver frontline is hurting and remember a man & his wife wants to come home, so there is no way that’s going to happen after putting their home on the market:>)

Sorry, ain’t happening!

Ain’t happening aftering signing Fisher!

so to recap this looks like the best deal out there.

ORL sends J Nelson (6.7 3yrs) to Denver
Denver Sends JR Smith (6.0 expiring) to NoLA

NolA Sends Paul (14.9 3 yrs) to ORL
NoLA sends E Oka (11.5 4 years) to ORL

ORL sends V Carter (17.3 expiring) to NoLA
ORL sends M Pietrus (5.3 2 yrs) to NoLA

NoLA saves a boat load of money.. gets a side show for a year and a young french player in Pietrus

ORL gets a top 3 PG and a bruising front court player

Denver gets a young cheap PG to try and persuade Melo to stay and transition away from 34 YO Billups

Knicks get screwed. (no Melo.. no CP3)

For CP3, they can live giving a hell of a lot more than just Randolph, Chandler and Walker (Curry doesn’t count).

Yup. That’s the type of deal a sensible GM would make. I can think of no trade scenario where this team has a puncher’s chance at getting CP3 or Melo (I’m of the thought that our best chance at getting Melo would be through the FA -if he actually goes for it, which I doubt given the likely salary reductions-).
Any trades that Denver or NO even consider don’t include this team’s pieces.

No way to have Gallo and Randolph and still have Melo alongside Paul. Both Denver and NO would ask for them.

No doubt. I can’t really say that I’m content with the team as it is right now, but I’d at least try to keep Gallo. It’s hard to stay positive, but I’m trying. Basketball-wise, this has been a bleek ten year period. I’m glad that moves can be made and that this is even a discussion.

That being said, even though I’d be happy getting CP3, I’ve seen to many injured(physically, mentally, and sometimes both)”superstars” come over to the Knicks and then young players get sent away. The team should definitely look into it, but…

A good coach will know how to develop and get the best out of that talent like Randolph and the others.

As a fan, I’m always hopeful, but this roster has weaknesses, and I think that it’d take a team effort plus a hell of a season from Gallo, Chandler, Amare and Felton in order to drive this team to contend for the 8th seed. I’d say it’s time to let this young team begins it’s path toward reconstruction.
Anyone would love to have Melo or CP3 here, but it seems way too farfetched, and I think that NO and Denver could get better pieces from tons of other teams.

Wow I can’t believe some of you wouldn’t give up Gallo even if it meant getting CP3. I like Gallo as much as anyone, but I would give him up for CP3 in a heartbeat!

So not only do you both think VC and Pietrus gets you CP3, you thinks its a better package than Ant, Wilson and TD?
Wow simply amazing.

Tommy why did you make this Post now all i see is people overvaluing other teams and undervaluing us! I Cant stand fas like that.

I think it’s a more proven package that the one you mention.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not that they’re bad players, they’re just unproven to the rest of the league.

+1
CP3, Melo, those are true franchise players. You give what you have to, not what you choose to get them, if it was possibility.

Chandler is nothing but a dime a dozen player with a 9 plus million dollar cap hold after this year..

you cant trade AR as part of a package until mid season.. 2 LATE.. the clock is ticking to move him BEFORE the season..

i assume you include Curry who would save NoLA SOME money.. but getting rid of Oka’s money and having VC’s 18 mil expiring (w/JR Smith’s) means NoLA has 24 mil free after this season..

TD is a nice piece but he’s nothing to get worked up over.

Clearing Okafor is key.

Out of all the teams I feel like we can put the most attractive offer of young talent that don’t have terrible contracts.

However…

1. Let’s stop suggesting trades that won’t even work contract wise

2. Let’s cross our fingers and hope for the best!!

It’s not about underrating our players, not at all. Players like Gallo and Randolph have bright futures ahead of them, and, if healthy -alongside strong minutes- can make an impact in their due time.
I just don’t see Denver or NO thinking that they’re enough to give up their centerpieces.

Didn’t the Nets shoot down a possible trade because it included Okafor early in the offseason?
Unreal. His contract is ugly as hell though.

The Knicks can trade anyone except Amar’e and Felton. The Knicks are under the cap and any of the players acquired from Golden State can be dealt.

I can’t see the Lakers giving up Bynum, even if it means getting CP3. The guy has a chance to become one of the best centers in the game. Also, rebounding and defense is what wins games in the playoffs. I don’t think any team can stop Gasol and Bynum when they are both healthy. Also, the triangle offense doesn’t require an elite PG. A Fisher/Blake combo is definitely good enough. No reason to give up your 22 year old starting center, just to upgrade the PG position. I like CP3 and I’m sure he would be great on the Lakers, but they just don’t need an elite PG. A great C is much more important in that offense. Thats just my opinion. CP3 would be a perfect fit in Orlando though… Lets just hope they won’t put a package together that the Hornets want.

I wonder how many people are gonna complain about this speculation thread?

“I just wanna focus on the guys we have now and stop all this melo/cp3 trade nonsense”

blah blah

Personally I’m still thrilled to be out of the 15 years of salary cap hell and I will continue to embrace all of these rumors and ride this cap flexibility till the wheels fall off.

Exactly. NO has him under contract for two more years. They aren’t in a rush to get rid of him. I guarantee they won’t get rid of him unless they love what the other team is offering for him. It makes me laugh when people actually think a package of Eddy Curry and Wilson Chandler could get us one of the best players in the entire league! Gallo or Randolph would definitely have to be included in any deal for CP3, and probably both of them. And it would still definitely be worth it.

im saying forget melo…

but regardless, wouldnt we sign melo as a free agent? or do something similar to what we did with amare? (trade exception)

Exactly. And he has an arthritic knee too!

Seriously though, it would be a home run, but it’s hard to give up on young talent. Without a doubt, the team has weaknesses, but definitely headed in the right direction.

Like you said, the path of reconstruction has begun. Unlike NWO South Beach, the Knicks weren’t lucky enough to land all the major pieces all at once. This was the hand that was dealt.

you have a link reference on that?

How about this- New York gets> Chris Paul, Daequan cook and Nenad Kristic
New Orleans gets> Gallo, Azibuike, Curry, Douglas
Oklahoma gets> Emeka Okafor

Knicks trading Gallo Azibuike, Curry, and douglas for Paul Cook and kristic. Paul is great but we also get a shooting guard who can flat out shoot something they need. Krystic can play center but is also an expiring 5 mill.

New Orleans trading Paul and Okafur for Gallo Buke curry Douglas, getting young players with potential including a backup for collison and Curry’s expiring that will help them rebuild.

Oklahoma City trading Krystic, and Cook for Okafor, a center needed to compete with elite teams in the west.

Knicks
Paul/ Felton
Cook/ Walker/ Felton
Chandler/AR
STAT/ AR
Turiaf/ Russian/ Krystic/ AR

Welll that was fun but it could work, i think

Just wondering what Denver does with Nelson, Billups, and Lawson? I don’t see the point unless they are going into the Wrath of Khan, plus it leaves the Hornets with just Collison. Plus Orlando then has Howard, Okafor, and Gortat in the post.

I would think that Anderson and Orton would be far more desirable with years at low prices. So how about Anderson, Orton, Carter, and Gortat for CP3 and Okafor.

Randolph, Chandler, Gallo, Mosgov ( would have been 1st round pick)in this draft) and Picks. As long as we save enough to get Melo.

Paul
Buike
Melo
Stat
Turiaf

Chris Paul is an elite player in league and if the knicks have a chance to acquire him the deal needs to be done even if it means taking back Okafur. We need to learn from the Lebron situation that we cant count on Melo coming here. Paul and Okafur is 25 million. Offer Curry (11), Galo (3), Turiaf (4), chandler (3). Thats is 20 million plus the knicks are about 3 million under the cap. So this works financially. That leaves us with a starting team of:

PG- Paul
SG- Felton
SF- Randolph
PF- Amare
C- Okafur

Bench- Azubuike, Mozgov, TD, Walker, and our second round picks.

Thats not a bad squad. The front court is extremely athletic. Felton is more of a scorer, and CP is the best in the game.

We can deal with Melo next year. We have tradable assets. Felton can be dealt mid year, Azuibeke comes off the books, Mozgov is not guaranteed. The knicks can come up with a package for Melo at the deadline. Worry about that later.

The bottom line is that we have a chance to get Paul NOW. we need to get it done. Cant rely on Melo. If melo stays every top player is locked into a long term contract and we are a mess. Kobe, Bron, Wade, Durant, Amare, Bosh, Paul, Dirk all locked into contracts. Then what?

OKC got their center in the draft with Aldrich. No way they take Okafor’s contract when they have to pay all their young guys coming of their rookie contracts.

i think you will need that kind of size to beat the Heat.

Here you go…

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q88

personally i dont think aldrich has a great NBA game and certainly cant be trusted this year but you might be right

Yup, and I think DW would do right by this team by letting the youth grow and develop under the leadership of Amare and Felton (this doesn’t imply my rejection of a dream scenario trade for a big time player, I just don’t see it).
With time, we can hope Gallo and Randolph will be regarded more than just young talent, but as proven players. If they get plenty of PT, they’ll have the chance to prove what they’re made of.

To get Chris Paul would be very difficult especially with no first round picks to offer but I think compared to the packages the Lackers, and Magic could throw their way we could come at least close. You would have to throw in at least:

Felton
Chandler
Randolph or Gallo(I would still give up Randolph before Gallo.

In terms of picks even if the Magic or Lacker offer first rounders they would not be very high picks at all. It would have to be player. I would think the Magic would have the edge because they would have the best point guard to swap in Jameer nelson.

right. guys are losing their minds and constructing trades that don’t even make sense. ORL and LA have no $ and a full house. The assets they do have are tied to huge contracts of players they don’t wanna give up and aren’t worth taking on.

Hornets ownership is trying to save money. Their roster is depleted and they have huge contracts on decent players. Say CP3 is serious about leaving…they’re in need of PG/C/Lottery. So we give ‘em Douglas, Turiaf, Curry, Chandler… maybe next year first round and a second. I honestly doubt if we have to give up a whole lot, let’s not give this front office too much credit; they’ve shown to be consistent dopes in the past.

I’m cool on what we have now. After The Decision, I’m done sweatin’ players to come to the garden.

If Melo was staying, he woulda signed by now. He and his wife are east coast people and denver aint the place for stardom or rings.

The drama continues…

A player like paul solves two positions on the floor because he is a distributor and a scorer which eliminates the need for a top tier SG. You could simply plant a jump shooter in the lineup who can simply stand outside and wait for kick outs.

The past draft, Randolph and Gallo probably. Mosgov is a mystery, no way to know what pick he’d represent until we see him play. Chandler, a late 1st, probably early 2nd.

…and your stupid post.

Or…..

Philly Gets
Curry
Chandler
Picks….

Denver Gets
Iguodala
Picks

We Get
Melo.

Daequan Cook

The hornets wouldn’t need a pg they already have collison. They need wings or big men.

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Vince wont show up EVER lol.

To make a trade happens you don’t need to have capspace, you just need the salaries to match.
LA and Orlando are both teams that have players with big contracts, and NO’s roster has ugly contracts they’re dying to shed.

OKC took on Posey’s contract and sent two first rounders to NO for the man from Kansas. So they will give Aldrich every shot to make it. All they really need is some D and rebounding, with Durant there.

yea you keep ridding that hoopty with no tires but sittin on cinderblocks…..when you don’t have young proven talent on at least a contending respectful squad the only trades your making is lee for golden state players..players who played on teams as bad as ours and don’t know how to win nor can sell tickets if you wanted to go that rout…at the end of the day all the money we had to spend this summer how many max players we wound up with…good lookin out Isiah…..AAHHAHAHA….

Seems like Philly’s on the losing end of that scenario to me.

There is absolutely NO WAY WE get Paul without Giving up either Gallo or Anthony so pick your fav. I go with trading Anthony because he does not have a real position yet and i prefer to keep Gallo cus I know what I have and what he might be able to become. BUt either way AnY Trade for Paul starts with Gallo or Anthony and you can fill in the other two or three players you like.
Again, I think the strongest offer is Felton, Anthony, and Chandler. They get a point guard back and two yound players to rebuild with.

Guys NO ONE IS TAKING CURRY so forget it!!

They already have turner. I don’t think they would want AI contract.

I don’t know what you want. You asked for my reference…I gave it to you.

the knicks are not under the cap..

mozgov took up the last bit of cap space… not counting the second rounders.

For a Paul trade I would rather keep curry. Keeping him allows us flexibility to sign melo next season.

Pobably right Damn,Other than the Aldrich factor i think this trade is doable, but the Knicks could do this with a team that would take Okafor.

I’m racking my brain right now trying to figure out how in gods name a Felton/CP3 back court could work defensively and offensively.

HAHAHAHAHAA…….EXACTLY………….

The Knicks ARE under the cap.

Imho, if NO humored the possibility, they’d ask for both AR and Gallo, given their higher upside in comparison to Chandler.
Denver would do the same.
Paul and Melo are proven stars, franchise players. Gallo and Randolph are cheap guys with tons of unproven potential. It only makes sense to ask both of them + another player + picks.

why do you feel he’s overrated…..

sounds more like a specialist then a lottery pick……..ouch…..

Yeah, I think Q-Rich got traded several times before last season. he went to Memphis, Clippers, Wolves, and then Miami.

He’s an expiring contract.

Impossible.

The salaries have to match because we don’t have enough capspace to absorb Paul’s contract by trading away young players only.

1. +1

2. +1

BASE… +1

Haven’t we had enough of the rumors already?! At this point, I don’t need to be teased anymore.
Enough of the fantasy and let’s talk reality!

i’m surprised so many of you think felton can play the 2. i wouldn’t trust that for a second, but he would be a quality back up to cp3 (who, btw, if he were to ever come here i hope to god wouldn’t wear 3… i’m done with that number in orange for life). anyway, i’m of the opinion that Gallo needs to stay, even if it means losing out on Paul (Melo is another story). cp is a fa in ’12, and that’s probably the most likely chance to land him. it’s not like being traded to another team immediately means new contract, i’m sure he’ll still see what’s out there that summer. BUT, so is Deron Williams, and i might be alone here – but i take him over Paul all day every day in this system (and he’s been open about his beef with the Jazz even before Booz was out.)

At this point, I’m just trying to wrap my brain around what backcourt we’ll have come the first game of the season, since I highly doubt Paul will wear orange and blue.

You wouldn’t give up Gallo for Paul or Williams?
Unreal.

q rich was always traded ALONE..

Knicks cap for next year..

existing players 30 mil
Amare max deal 16.5
felton deal 8.0
mozgov deal 3.3
2 holds to get to 13 1.0

equals 58.8 mil committed.. cap is 58.1

@Rfrom – your starting lineup has no shooters. that would not work against elite teams in a playoff series. need to stretch the D.

love gallo but he’s gotta go. esp. if people are eyeing melo next year. defensively nowhere to play him and having a true 2 to stroke it from deep would be ideal fit.

would rather take back peja’s contract than okafor. that way we get a shooter back to replace gallo and maintain flexibility for melo with he and curry coming off the books.

AR is a freak and could be a key difference maker if we are able to get our own big 3 – keeping him if possible would be pretty sick and i’m pretty sure donnie wants to – he’s coveted him for a long time.

gallo, chandler, td, whoever else they want to make the numbers work, a boat load of draft picks, and cash considerations… lots of considerations. if we have to put a big salary in to make the numbers work throw eddy curry and enough money to cover half his salary. he could be a chip for them at the deadline and they could get off the hook for the other half of his salary.

Bosh can’t hold Amar’e on D man, kill that noise.

@ Biggie – The Knicks could make two separate deals with the New Orleans Hornets if Anthony Randolph can only be traded alone, couldn’t they?

1. Anthony Randolph for Quincy Pondexter and Craig Brackins

2. Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Toney Douglas and a future 1st round draft pick for Chris Paul

Randolph Gallo mozgof and Turiaf equal CP3 salary I believe

Some folks have an Eddy Curry fantasy. He’s all ours unless we take back a bad contract that’s not expiring.

My bad.

@ Biggie – The Knicks could make two separate deals with the New Orleans Hornets if Anthony Randolph can only be traded alone, couldn’t they?

1. Anthony Randolph for Quincy Pondexter and Craig Brackins

2. Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Toney Douglas and a future 1st round draft pick for Chris Paul

realistically speaking if we can take time out as a whole and try to be that ……it seems like its going to come down to either CP3 or Melo……In my humbled I rather CP3 he actually led his team to the WCF and has that killer instinct that compliments Amare…as well as his overall game….CP3 has that will to win no matter what aspect about him..I think people undermines Melo‘s heart and his will to win in his defense..but I think CP3 turns it up slightly on another level and has shown to be a leader…I think that‘s a accurate knock on Melo at this level but that‘s it..the only way Melo is more valuable out of the 2 to Me is the fact that he doest have any previous significant injuries.. and is a Home Town Kid(a stretch but still remains true)…either way anybody can go for either 1 of them…….

Word. I love having a roster and cap thats at the very least flexible.

I did just peep that “Ocho Cinco Catching White Chicks” show on VH1 funny stuff.

yes Mucha.. you can structure a deal as two trades..

Amar’e Stoudemire$16,500,000
Eddy Curry $11,276,863
Raymond Felton $8,000,000
Ronny Turiaf $4,200,000
Danilo Gallinari $3,304,560
Kelenna Azubuike $3,300,000
Timofey Mozgov $3,000,000
Wilson Chandler $2,130,482
Anthony Randolph $1,965,720
Toney Douglas $1,071,000
Bill Walker $854,389
TOTAL $55,603,014

Unless you are telling me that two second round picks are going to cost a total of $2.5 million for the year then it looks like the Knicks are under the salary cap. I rest my case…good night.

That rumor has to be based on reality. it’s come up way too many times to be just fiction.

I agree that CP3 to the LA is very, very unlikely. which just leaves ORl with Howard or NY with Amare.

Just comparing both rosters, NY has many more cheap young assets with upside than ORL (who has virtually none). that has to be very attractive to NOL.

useless Curry would have to be included to make the trade work on our side. On Orl’s side Carter’s expiring might need to be included which complicates matters as well.

I like our chances a lot. But then, I always do.

nevermind………………..

i didn’t say i wouldn’t for williams, but i don’t see the jazz trying to trade him for anything.

“Gallinari spoke with Newsday last night from Milan, Italy, to talk about the busy offseason for the Knicks and for him. He has been in his home country since the season ended in April working on critical, physical aspects of his game, such as EXPLOSION, QUICKNESS and FLEXIBILITY. The 6-10 forward, who also continues to STRENGTHEN his core muscles to protect his surgically repaired back, also has focused on developing a LOW-POST GAME.”

Interesting.

and honestly, the more i think on it, the more i’d be willing to give gallo for cp3, but we’d have to get another shooter. the peja idea isn’t bad, but it’s highly unlikely.

@Mucha

yea or do 2 trades – 1st one including their trade exception so we can take on more salary in the 2nd one. again hopefully peja expiring.

still say keep AR over gallo – all day every day and twice on sundays. AR can be a beast. 6’11, freak of an athlete and can run the floor. that’s dwight’s size – if he beefs up watch out. gallo… not so much athletic. just don’t see the same type of game changing impact. and you get melo you can’t play him at the 2 he’s too slow, the 4 he’s too weak (not to mention a guy named Amare). Randolph has the height and shot-blocking ability, maybe in a few years the weight to play the 5, maybe even now in this system. hard to find a guy like him is all i’m saying… i will get off his nuts now.

3 point shooting on other hand easier to find. don’t see gallo becoming dirk but i guess you never know.

hell let’s sign rashad mccants to play the 2!

“they’d ask for both AR and Gallo, given their higher upside in comparison to Chandler.”

ahahahhaahaa………

The same idiots undervaluing our squad are the guys trumping up scrubs like Gortat, Nelson, and Pietrus as “better packages”.

Ridiculous.

Your a ham sandwich YO.

You write and sound like an utter imbecile.

You are a “Son”

one last one.

3-way trade, NOL/ORL/NYK….we get back duhon at last!

nah, it wouldn’t work with both of them playing together. neither is a 2 at all.

I honestly think Felton is going to be pretty darn successful for us next year, not CP3 level, but damn good. I’d rather trade away tons of assets for a dissatisfied Melo personally.

Alright thanks for the info.

wha………

Damn you are big wave surfing all over Chandlers nuts homie, its scary.

“hell let’s sign rashad mccants”
did anyone else read that espn article about him being out of work recently? i know it was written to make it look like it’s not his fault, but dude just comes off as a douchebag and a straight up locker room cancer. NO. THANKS.

As much as I want CP3, it makes more sense to allocate assets for Melo right now UNLESS we can acquire Paul and still have cap space for Melo.

Keeping Gallo would be nice too

Wouldn’t it make sense to trade Gallo in a package for CP3 and then sign Melo to replace his position in the lineup later?

Makes sense even tho I’d hate to part with the Italiano.

hey YO.

Absolutely agree with you for once.

on top of that, CP#3 + amare = perfect P&R.

your insults or corny all your little 1 liner jokes you try to give are wack ….your a cornball..just for even thinking of going by the name bloop shows your a square and your explanation for it is even worse..which justify everything I’m saying..your bball input…..there is none..stop typing my name on every post looking for attention ..I get it your a fan…a groupie…so the 1 time I take the time out and humble myself to even talk ball to a square like you…what you do turn right back around and remind me why I’ve been ignoring your wack azz all along…if you cant get at me bball wise(which you’z CANT) then just keep it moving…now kicc roccs…buster….1

that definitely makes perfect sense, but i for one i’m pretty over the knicks dealing in hypotheticals at this point.

you riddin mines even harder….go that way..
<<<<<<<<<<

I just laugh you think you can read my mind and understand where I was going with it…like Father like son..as if…you could never be my son no matter how much and how hard you try……male groupies are the worse….HAHAHAHA…..

if he’s working on developing his low post game shouldnt he be doing that in the States……

E-Roc

I agree we are missing shooters. Obviously i would rather Peja instead of Okafur but the point is that we are giving NO Curry and his expiring contract and taking on Okafur’s ridic contract. Rather fill in another stud now and make moves later on. Lets all remember that the knicks were terrible last year and we are not wining a title overnight. Adding Amare, Paul, Randolph and Felton is pretty darn good. At the deadline we can trade players with expiring contracts like Azubieke or chandler, or trade an attractive young PG in Felton or TD with one year left on his deal. There will be a shooter available somewhere. One piece at a time.

And for anyone on here that thinks that the knicks can get the best PG in the NBA for a combo of galo and curry is crazy. Why would NO do that? its basically paul for Galo. If you were NO would you do that?

How about Mike D’Antoni and Isiah Thomas for CP3?

-sigh- before july, the only people talking about anthony randolph were warriors fans. now folks have seen a few highlight reels and they’re on his n*tz calling him a freakish athletic beast. chill out. let’s see what happens this season. from draft day, when everyone was booing the kid, I said galinari could be the next dirk. give him some time and he will. chandler makes mistakes but he has talent and heart. lets stay put and not whore the shirts off our backs. if we can get another trade a la GSW or something close to it, pull the trigger.

not stressin cp3 or melo…the media is trying to drive us knicks fans crazy and then laugh, as they did with lebron.

20 years ago that may have worked……

REALLY?I see just the opposite.How could they not take TD?chandler is great!you gotta be kidding

We don’t need CP3!! when did knicks fans become so desperate, yes lets trade everyone for one pg who in his whole career could never get his team to anywhere close to the top.

the only way a trade with CP3 can work is with EC’s contract because both team are at/over the cap.

one possibility might be CP3 for

AR, Chandler, EC, 2011 1rst round, GS 2011 2nd round, GS 2012 2nd round.

don’t know if NOL would go for it but what choice do they have if CP3 wants to go to NY. look what CLEV got for LBJ.

this is a Knicks blog.. the most knowledgeable fans in the NBA..

Saying “give’em Danny boy and whoever else is availble from the knicks organization from front office down to the Curry & the towel boy.” doesn’t work here.. we know things such as salary caps and matching salaries.

Paul for Curry/Azubuike/Chandler/Douglas and a future 1st, 2 2Rds

Our cap would be at 50.8 mil: Problem is no Melo since we only have 7.2 left in FA unless we unload someone in the next year…maybe Felton and Gallo which total 10.5 plus the 7.2 we have left and we can pay Melo 17.7 in the middle of the year???

NYK CAP Salary 52M CAP To start Season
PG-PAUL 14M
SG-FELTON 7M – WALKER 736K -RAUTINS 500K
SF-GALLO 3.5M-FIELDS 500K
PF-AMARE 16.3M-AR 1.9M
C-TURIAF 4M-MOSOGV 2.7M-JORDAN 500K

After Trade 58M
Pg-PAUL 14 M
SG WALKER 736 K RAUTINS 500K
SF- MELO 17.7
PF-AMARE 16.3-AR 1.9 M
C-TURIAF 4M MOSOGV 2.7 M JORDAN 500K

I would love to see
Paul,Walker, Melo, Amare and at C-Turiaf/AR/Mosogv

New Orleans CAP—57 MIL AND THEY WL TRY TO GET RID OF PEJA’S 14 PLUS LOSING CURRYS’ 11 WOULD LEAVE THEM 25 MIL UNDER NEXT SUMMER.
PG-COLLISON 1.4 TD 1.1
SG- CHANDLER 2.1M THORNTON 762K HEAD 1M AZUB 3.3
SF- PEJA 14M WRIGHT 2M
PF-WEST 8M SONAJIR 4.5M
C-OKAFOR 10M CURRY 11M BRACKEN 500K GRAY 500K

how bad are Chris Pauls injuries?

Gallo and Randolph could turn into franchise players.you dont wanna be too quick to give up very good young talent for an injury waiting to happen.I might give them up for Melo(who doesnt seem injury prone)but cp3(another stupid modern day nickname)is another question all together.Cant win a chip,when your best player is in the training room

Chandler couldnt net you c.duhon.Gee thanx 4 all the help ZEKE!Keep Randolph and Gallo.in 1 year they will both be better than C.paul.Plus St.Anthony (patron saint of all things lost)sez:”never trade an italian” its in the bible

WHY?

its easy

if we take on okafor’s deal

its

curry , randolph or gallo ( not both !!) and douglas + picks

its clearly not probable tho

i

get Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nelson at PG, Pietrus at SG, and Gortat at C would all start on the Knicks. Exactly how are they scrubs? I’d trade Felton, Azubuike/Walker, and Turiaf in an instant for the Magic scrubs.

Orlando has Ryan Anderson, Daniel Orton, Brandon Bass, and their 1st round picks. Those are cheap, young assets.

To all the cynics on this sight, why would Nola want Jameer Nelson if they already have collison?

Is that better than Randolph, Chandler, Mosgov, Buike a pick and maybe TD(to back up collison)?

Bynum is an interesting offer, but the Lakers would have a large hole at the center position.

I say it’s between us and the Magic for a trade.

This is an easy trade for DW to make. It should be as simple as this.

NYK: Good Morning, this is DW from New York. I’m prepared to give you whomever you want to make teh deal for CP3.

NOLA: Sure, we like you young guns but we would need you to take Peja or Okafor back as we are looking to shed salary.

NYK: Let me keep Gallo and I’ll take both of them.

NOLA: You got a deal old man. We’ll call you back when we select the players we want and match salaries.

Paul’s a little small and light (I think Felton outweighs him by 20+ pounds), but he puts a double double in assists and points and shot nearly .401 from 3 last yr.

So, you gotta get him if close to reasonable.

Still, the only trade that makes sense for both teams is for the Knicks to give $ (give NO $10MM to get them through the lockout), Randolf (who knows what he’ll be but he’s probably got high value), Will (love the game, but not a unique talent) Feltonn, and maybe chuck in Walker or Douglas, too.

But Felton can’t be traded till 12/15. So, if before camp, you’re talking about $, Curry, and the 3 main young guys – Randolf, Will, and Gallo.

The Knicks would then be stuck with 2 point guards and just Azabuke, Walker, and the draft picks on the wings. You can trade Felton for something mid-December, but this is less appetizing to me.

I say get him, but keep Gallo as he, Amar’e, and Paul would be a very complimentary and tough to guard trio. You add Azabuke to that, and we’re looking good.

The Hornets are at $68 million, not $57 million. I don’t think they would trade All-NBA Chris Paul for a bunch of a bench players from a non-playoff team.

You’d have to include Gallo AND Randolph just to get the conversation started.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9191

Dylan, you must be out of your mind… the D’system does not work if you dont have a shooter, and there are none available…Read my LIPS you dommie, GALLO is not going anywhere!!!….

As I wrote before, Gallo’s career as a knick will probably end when D’antoni gets fired.

For now you must include GALLO on the nucleus of this team. Get over it…

You did watch the NBA playoffs this year and saw Jameer Nelson go for 19 ppg and shoot 48/39/82. That’s someone that would be welcome on lots of teams at $7.6 million for the next three years.

He is a better player than anyone you propose to send to NO for Paul. None of those guys would even start for the Hornets. It’s likely they won’t even start for the Knicks.

If you want CP3, you start with Gallo and future 1st round picks and then add in the guys you mentioned.

Knicks trade Gallo, Wilson Chandler, Toney Douglas, Eddy Curry and Turiaf (22 mill)

Take back Okafor and Paul (26 mill)

Since Knicks are 3 mill under the salary cap, they can absorb the difference.

The Hornets receive 5 contracts that all expire at season’s end. Plus, they get a year to look at a potential star in Gallo.
A nice back up to Collison in Douglas.
A cheaper alternative to Okafor in Turiaf.
A solid/good player in Chandler.

If the Hornets are really trying to sell the team, this deal makes sense as next seaon they will have very little in commited
Salary, which is desirable to a prospective buyer.

Does the new GM, Demps, want his first deal to be for salary cap relief only?

To all of you talking trades including GALLO here is my response. You all must be out of your mind… the D’system does not work if you dont have a shooter, and there are none available…Read my LIPS you dommie, GALLO is not going anywhere!!!….

As I wrote before, Gallo’s career as a knick will probably end when D’antoni gets fired.

For now you must include GALLO on the nucleus of this team. Get over it…

Now, if Paul wants out and they call the knicks, i see AR, Will, TD, (Curry’s contract) and Draft picks going to N.O.
I don’t see Donnie giving more than that for a player that wants out.. That is why we have not trade for Rudy, make no sense to give a lot for someone is on the way out. Its like this is what we are giving you, take it or leave it…

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA you can not be serious… Its not like a PG is important for D’Antoni’s system right? Gallo is NOT an elite shooter anyway. He shot 38% from 3. Lets not make him out to be the next Dirk. CP3 is THE BEST PG in the league, and you wouldn’t trade Gallo for him. Thank god you are not the Knicks GM!

After my proposed above trade,

We start:

CP3
Peja
Gallo
Stat
Okafor

Our bench will consist of whomever is left over.

CP and Stat will run the PNR all day with Peja and Gallo spotting up and streching the D. Okafor is solid role player rebounder and paint protector.

I can see CP3 hitting the game winning shot against Miami ala Houston and throwing punches in the air.

Sorry if I’m repeating anything, but I just kind of skimmed the bulk of comments.

I don’t think LA would be interested, it would cost them Bynum, and 1, not sure if New Orleans would be high on him because of his numerous injuries, his most value is to LA. And 2, LA will win a 3-peat because of the frontline of Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Artest, their edge is with the size they have, no reason to go smaller

Orlando could work, the person who posted the proposed 3-way trade makes a ton of sense unfortunately. NO would not want Nelson since they have Collison, but a 3 way trade could work. Hopefully NO is high on Randolph, I believe he’s a Lousiana boy, I know he went to LSU for whatever that’s worth

you people are just way too in love with gallo. he’s a 3 point specialist at this point. not saying there’s not potential for more but seriously, he’s not that athletic or quick or strong. if we do end up getting melo he is a bench player.

you must be smoking something good if you refuse to trade gallinari for Chris FREAKIN Paul. who is a Top 2 or 3 player in the league… oh and by the way he can shoot the 3 ball.

STOP OVERRATING GALLO! He is good, but he is NOT a super star, and will probably never become a star. Even if he does become a star, he will NEVER be a top 10 player in the league. Paul is arguably a top FIVE player in the league, and THE BEST PG in the league. The fact that a lot of you people wouldn’t trade Gallo for him is so ridiculous that i can’t even wrap my head around it. You must be on crack if you think Chandler and Curry will get us CP3. There is NOBODY on this team that I wouldn’t include in s deal for CP3.

I am as big a Gallo guy as anybody, but if you can get one of the best players in the NBA for him, you have to trade him.

He’s a great shooter, but he’s hasn’t proven to be consistent enough to warrant holding him out of a deal for CHRIS PAUL.

D’Antoni’s system is meant for a great point guard and pick and roll play as well as shooting. If you can get Chris Paul in
His prime, you do it 100 times out of 100.

Are you kidding me bob? First off, gallo, a wing 3 point shooter, will never be a “franchise” player. Unless of course you considered peja a franchise player. Second, CP3 is already that franchise talent. You don’t wanna give up good young talent? CP3 IS 25 YEARS OLD!!!! He was generally healthy his first four years in the league and had one injury last year, so now he’s injury prone? Come on! Anyone who wouldnt trade everyone but amare is nuts. This is the best pg in the league, and he’s only 25!

seriously last i checked its kind of a hard to find an all star pg…you want a shooter NYK4EVER? You can buy kapono from the 76ers, jeez some ppl are just ignorant

As much as I love CP3,I would hope the knicks play a strong game of chicken….Practice some patience,Paul really doesn’t have a strong position in which to make immediate demands.Knick world,let’s give this team some time to see what exactly we have….We still don’t know Melo is gonna do and we don’t know how developed Chandler,Galinari & Randolph’s gms will be.Why give up the farm, for a player,that is not nessecarily the best @ his position(-Note*I do love CP3).Isn’t Deron Williams contract up same time as CP.Everything doesn’t have to be in a NY minute.
This is what got Isiah in trouble with this fan base…I can c u guys killin DW if he rushes & trades the young talent(all r under 23-Wow) and they blossom elsewhere.
*Patience is a Virtue:)

melo has led the nuggets to the WCF as well, just saying

just tried this on espn trade machine, i know its 100% unrealistic but the salaries work

Knicks Get
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul

Nuggets get
Anthony Randolph
Wilson Chandler
Kelenna Azubuike
Toney Douglas

Hornets get
Danilo Gallinari
Eddy Curry
Ronny Turiaf

I think obviously the knicks make out like bandits on this one
the nuggets get a good set of talent instead of losing melo for nothing
and the hornets get boned, but pickup cap flexability for the upcoming offseason and get a
young player in gallo who seemingly fits their system, as well as a banger underneath in Turiaf should they be able to move okafor elsewhere

just interesting that it technically work

OK, 100 out a 100 you trade gallo to get CP3 but it is not happening. Donnie will not include gallo on any deal until he sees how is he by mid season.
As you know, it takes 2-3 (on court experience) for Young NBA players to get fisically and metally adapt to an NBA season.

I spec Gallo to hit for a higher percentage from outside, help more on the boards and play better defense. Last year was Gallo’s 1st full season and playing with a bunch washed up players who thought that they were all stars, taking all the shots.

I see AR and Gallo playing together and feeding of Amar’e's game.

My starting five to begin the season is:

Felton, Gallo, Randolph Amare and Turiaf. We will play Zone 60% of the time and switching on everything or a matched up zone using our length to let players to shoot from outside.

I really dont see CP3 coming as a trade this year.

One thing we know for sure about gallo = he is a proven 3 pt threat. On a team with CP3 and Amare running the P&R he would be an absolute menace. I would expect him to lead the league for sure.

So we can’t trade Gallo. He complements Amare and CP3 perfectly. AR might possibly be better than Gallo (I don’t really know) but he won’t fit as well. So he is more expendable. It’s the chemistry thing.

As far as taking Okafor back, I don’t see that as being so terrible depending how the trade is structured. Okafor can rebound, defend and block shots (holds the garden record I think), and is very durable. he could be a better version of robin lopez.
considering what journeyman centers are getting these days, 11.5 Mill is not all that bad.

if taking back Okafor seals the deal in getting CP3, then we should do it. the hell with Melo. as they say a bird in the hand…

possible deal

CP3 + Okafor

we send EC, Azu, turiaf,chandler, TD and maybe AR if forced to (would rather give up picks).

Cap number may have to be worked out a little.

Also later on, we would have to deal felton for a legit SG.

Just to back up what I wrote last night for Biggie Smalls:

LarryCoon …the Knicks got in trade can be traded right away, and can be traded in packages since Knicks are under the cap.

They have collison who is already cheaper. Why would they not just start the cheaper younger PG?

hahaha oh yeah gallo is definitely a “proven” 3 pt threat. give me a break, listen I like the guy but who exactly are you making him out to be? He shot 38% from 3 last year, that ranked 45th in the league…A true proven 3 point threat are guys like mike miller (48%), kyle korver (53%), stephen curry (44%), so let’s settle down with the gallo kool aid when we can possibly get CHRIS PAUL! I mean this is the best pg in the league!

hey, real idiot congrats on the screen name. looks like it fits you like a glove.

instead of rehashing stats, you should learn to understand them. there is a difference between shooting close to 600 3′s like gallo did on the knicks and shooting about 100 3′s on utah like korver did. a big difference.

Last year, gallo did shoot about 45% on close to 100 3′s.

Besisdes, korver is huhgly!