Via RealGM:
Alan Hahn reports that according to a source who has knowledge of the situation, the Knicks are not offering Wilson Chandler for Rudy Fernandez, whom the Blazers have made available.
I’m sure this will help a lot of Chandler fans sleep easier at night…
This makes sense because Chandler is the younger and better player. He’s a better defender, more versatile player, more athletic player, and probably a better mid-range shooter. That’s up for debate, though. But, what makes Rudy Fernandez such an attractive option for the Knicks, to me at least, is the fact that he’s a pure 2, and the Knicks lack that. He has a quick release and infinite range. Plus, his contract is cheap.
You have to wonder who the Knicks will offer, because there interest in Rudy has been highly publicized. You’d have to think Bill Walker is involved because of the surplus of wing players. Toney Douglas is the only backup point guard the team has so I can’t see him being expendable. What would you offer? Discuss.
we discussed this all morning..
LOL, SURE DID…
I called this trade possibility this morning, please check it out.. Tommy tell the Knicks they need some young talent like me on the mgmt team..
The money doesn’t work w/ Rudy & Wilson.. its really that simple, please don’t over analize..
Walker and Ca$H to Portland for Rudy,, or TD .. Thats the trade scenerio.
Guys, check out this article in Wall Street Journal about Anthony Randolph. I apologize if someone has posted this before:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703700904575391250591221386.html
but in my previous post earlier this morning, I said I would trade Walker, a second round pick(and cash if needed) for Rudy.
You were ahead of the curb kudos. Walsh must have pulled back Chandler wisely when he saw Portland was talking crap and was basically confronted with a potential distraction coming into training camp and limited trade options…
+1 that’s the only logical trade TD is the back up PG, Walker can defend he’s athletic can shoot a little plus they get a second round pick and some escarole.
That’s a good amount in return to get rid of a headache.
walker cant defend, hes a hack
If Portland is as desperate to dump Fernandez as some are making them out to be Knicks might seriously be able to pull getting Rudy Fern for Walker and some other caca which would be a heck of a trade.
Yeah Myles Biggie is right you are really late with this post.
Well Myles had to have his nap
Walker and 1 or 2 2nd rounders for Rudy.
or a heavily protected 1st rounder, were it lessens to a 2nd rounder if it doesn’t meet the requirements
What makes Rudy so much better than Bill Walker?
We have other comparable wings with potential, read Fields and Chandler. Walker is the most expendable amongst the redundance…Fernandez is cheap, can play the 2 and has some potential…
I think Walker is more than capable to play the 2 with the weight he’s lost. Don’t get me wrong, I love Rudy’s passion, but Walker has tremendous upside and has shot the ball extremely well in the NBA. Besides, Rudy is making almost twice as much as BW.
better shooter, better ball handler, better passer, a PURE 2, o yea and how about the 4knee surgeries that Walker has had since high school.
That’s a great point to argue.
Walker looked awful in SL though.
I wouldn’t say AWFUL.
THere are tweets all over the internet that state the Celtics are the front runners. their beat writer is sayin that the the C’s would be willing to give up a 1st a 2nd and Glen Davis. also somehow get the blazers to pickup sheed’s expiring contract with picks. They also think the Knicks can’t get him cause we don’t have any players. I think this guy must realy be smoking some primo dope1 I really want him now just so they do get him.
If the Celtics are willing to give up that much, they can have him, IMHO. Why would they drop their pants that far for him?
errr… If the Celtics are offering that the writer is right that we dont have the players
No first rounder. Maybe two 2nd rounders.
I could understand what a “true” center is or a “true” point guard
.. but what is a “true” 2??
good jumper, decent size, good handle, length to defend other 2s. basically i see kobe as the consummate 2.
portland doesnot want any players in the deal.. they are right at or over the lux limit next year and dont want to spend more..
forget about sending players there.. it has to be picks..
a three way where we get a pick and send it there is the only way..
I get that, but their just over the threshold and, at worst, Walker actually makes a few hundred K less, so the savings would be like $5 or 600K for them when you factor in the tax $ at a 2 to 1 ratio. Also, I don’t think a team is on the hook till late in the season, so they would have time to move $ off their books – maybe even Walker, if it came to that.
All that said, we have to figure if we want him here next yr. when Wil and Azabuike will be free agents and IF he is actually better than Walker.
If they just want a first, you can’t do that deal. Now, say, we hadn’t traded away all those picks with Jeffries, then I’d personally do it. But you can’t in this situation.
I’d offer Dolan in a heartbeart.
LOL!
Dolan and 2nd
100 32 oz. Gatorade
100 Nets (the ones on the RIM not NJ)
50 basketballs
25 headband
25 wristbands
1 knickdancer
Seriously though this kid wants to bail and go home.
I dont think its worth it!
you kidding! no knickdancers, we keep those.
Yes, this post is very late. If the Blazers really just want to save money, then the Knicks aren’t in this. Does a mid to late 1st rounder get it done?
if the blazers are worried about the luxury tax then rudy would not be the answer. Miller, Przybella, Camby these are the players that would re leave them of the tax hit. Not playr making 1.25 million.
Camby? where did you fall from? they just signed him. besides Allen couldn’t care less about luxury tax. he is worth 5 times dolan.
I never said the blazers would trade camby, I said if they did not want pay the luxury tax the best possible contracts are Miller, Przybella, and Camby each one makes Seven million dollars or more not the contracts worth a mill like Rudy or Roy, Aldrigde, and Oden.
If they did trade for Rudy I’d like to see them get the rights to Armon Johnson as well, who they apparently might not sign anyway. We could use a third pg in case an injury happens to td or felton.
obviously, walker and some combinations of draft picks which i suspect is the offer on the table. question is what do the bulls have to offer. can anyone guess?
they have their 2011 1rst round pick of course, but probably not much else they are willing to give.
we might just win that one.
nice to keep gallo and chandler. mike d said they were part of the nyk future. but if we can also get rudy without giving up much (walker, cash 2nd round picks) i’ll be impressed. i’d like to see dantoni extend the rotation this year.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/top_plays/2010/05/13/20100507_nyk_top10.nba/index.html
For the second time in little more than a month, a Cook County judge has issued an arrest warrant for former Chicago Bull Eddy Curry in a legal case that raises new questions about the NBA player’s financial woes. Cook County Circuit Judge Alexander White ordered Curry’s arrest on Monday, after learning Curry failed to sign an agreement to pay the balance of a $660,000 legal settlement reached after he was sued for allegedly having sex with an underage girl. Chicago Sun-Times
I can’t wait until we are done him!!!!!!! He’s a real clown.
I can’t wait until we are done with him
walker and a second rounder or even rauntins and 2nd rounder
I can’t wait until we are done with him.
I’ve got this strange feeling Chandler is going to have a breakout season. I don’t know why, but I just do.
I think either Chandler or Gallinari’s going to have a breakout season and the other one’s going to have a disappointing season – like a waterbed.
Nah, I think they could both have good seasons, but Chandler is basically in a contract year.
He’s already in incredible shape (pause) what 2 months before training camp? He was looking like a He-Man action figure in Las Vegas and it wasn’t like he was in bad shape last year.
You don’t have to say pause HaS. Your a grown man. We know what you mean. You’ll still be cool. lol
I’m not saying both can’t have good seasons but I think one’s going to shine and the other one won’t.
*isn’t
Im only concern with Wilson is that he does not attack the basket as much as you would want. He is always one step to the basket and i dont remember anyone stopping him. If somebody swatted his sh*T to the basket, i think somebody here will remind me. My money if no one else is brought in is that chandler and Gallo will range out there season average from 16-21 pts per game. If everything goes as planned. Myles put that article about both of them two years ago about Gallo and Chandler and this is the year.
yeah,he’ll get arrested for selling refer,then BREAKOUT of prison…..(whew!that joke was awful)
“I’ve got this strange feeling Chandler is going to have a breakout season. I don’t know why, but I just do.”
you know why..because YO SON told YOU’z so…AHAAHHAHAHHAAhahahaah…..dats my WORD SON!!!!
LONG LIVE ILL WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I so cant wait….HAHA)
No, you never said that SON, at least not to me. This is not my first time saying I think he could have a breakout season either. I actually think I said it to you in response to one of your many “ILL WILL” rants lol.
If anything you’ve always tried to make him out to be a more complete player than he is.
All good though.
“No, you never said that SON,”
cut it out……………………
I hope Wilson ups his game to another gear. I don’t mind his quiet nature as long as he is putting in work. Maybe he is motivated by fans who doubt him and all these articles saying he is not as good as his teammate. Or maybe trying to show he matured from his previous mistakes. We will see in a couple of months.
On another note, it is sad to see a former Memphis player Lorenzan Wright seen missing and was recently found dead.
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68416/20100728/report_lorenzen_wright_found_dead/
Peopl here are really underestimating rudys talent. He is the ultimate D’antoni system guy. He automatically becomes the 2nd best shooter on our team behind gallo. I agree chandler might be too much, but to say that walkers bum a$$ and a number 2 will get it done is redic….
the man can pass also,prolly play some back-up point
The Knicks really need to find a third team to make this work. Rudy for 60 cents in the dollar is to good to miss, especially when he is a) cheap, b) perfect for this “system”, and c) we need an SG.
If the Knicks really want Fernandez, Chandler would be their best bet – though still an unlikely one. I’m not sure how well Douglas or Walker would work in the Portland system.
So basically, people like us who like to speculate about different scenarios (endlessly), are the ones making up these fake stories we hear every day; They just happen to be in a position where someone in the media will listen to what they are saying and report it as if it’s real news.
I want to dig and find out who specifically made up the chandler scenario. If i was an intern at MSG i could convince most espn writers to use my opinion as a source.
Rudy is good enough that other GM’s will offer better than Walker and 2 second rounders if that’s what they are offering. Knicks might get beat to the punch. Knicks will probably hold off on moving chandler until the deadline, giving him enough time to increase his trade value. Im hearing from a lot of people that he is in better shape than last season(if that is possible) and that he has advanced his skills. Knicks brass would be wise to let him showcase himself now that the knicks have a better team that will actually win, increasing his trade value. That should be the plan since Melo has yet to sign that extensoion.
I would love Rudy on this team, the guy is gritty and gutsy (I think thats a word), Felton is the same way and with Amare and Gallo it would bring some fire and emotion to the team.
I would trade chandler for rudy, mills, and second…
Why can’t we just offer 3 million dollars so Portland can just buy a 1st roung pick? LOL. But seriously, if all they are interested in is a 1st round pick, then this should do. I know they have enough money and all that, but it will be like getting a pick from us. After all, the Celtics and the Bulls pick will be in the late 20s.
I think we are enough under the cap that we can absorb Rudy’s contract. That way, Portland doesn’t have to worry about getting some garbage back. I have a feeling that Donnie has been saving that cap space specifically for this purpose…
good thinkin’ SKOT
fact is though, POR couldn’t give two sh*t about money. Allen is the richest owner in the nba including prokororov and dolan. look it up on Forbes.
SG like Rudy that can shoot the 3 are a dime a dozen in the nba, especially if you consider rudy’s miserable performance in the playoffs. So we shouldn’t overpay for him even though he would fit in nicely for us. let’s just make a reasonable offer (walker + somethin’) and wait&see
How is Greg Oden these day anyways?
“I’m sure this will help a lot of Chandler fans sleep easier at night…”
Negro plz……..one of the worse trade proposals on tkb…….which is kinda hard to do…reactions from Me was over the ongoing disrespect(to the Knicks,ILL WILL Mr. Wilson Top 25 Under 25 Dead or Alive,antoni,and Walsh) when even insisting such a horrible trade from the Knick perspective.
Didn’t Rudy have back surgery last season? One guy on the team dealing with back issues is enough for me. I wouldn’t be too upset if we pass on this one.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU DUDES………
ILL WILL IS GOING NO WHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TOP 25 UNDER 25 DEAD or ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL HAIL MR. WILSON(made by the Original Quoter/Poster)!!!!!!!!!
LONG
LIVE
ILL WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH……..
(the last laugh is so sweet….busterz)
(oh and by the way………..)
STILL THE BEST 2 WAY PLAYER ON YOUR SQUAD!!!!!!!!!!
(deal with it!!!!!….ahahahah.)
i cant see them pulling a walker for rudy swap, trades never go in our favor. We never get steals, never will.
The trade for Camby and Sprewell worked for the Knicks a while back.
hey, hail gallo, what’s the drama. we just pulled a pretty good trade on GS. we just might do it again.
the dogs day are over…we are now the team who can afford to wait. Let the other guys come to us.
no drama i agree i think the dark days are over. Wer back in the days where we come within inches of a chip, only to be denied by an eastern conference rival/the team of the decade. Welcome to the 90s kids. Jordan did it to us then, miami will do it to us now. The gs deal was a steal for us though, thats true
http://www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38459999/from/ET
Haha did anyone see this?
lol he must feel more intelligent now.
Stop the presses!
Amare says forget Rudy or Paul, he wants the knicks to trade for Farmar and Caspii. Says he’s tired of being the only Jew on the team.
+1…LOL.
I missed that one!!
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1975-2010
R.I.P