How Houston Deals With NY Media

Man things are pretty slow huh?

just not feeling this dude as being the GM…..VP even President but not GM….like the Man a lot and the way he carries himself..seems like a really good dude… a real dude all around.

I like allan a lot, hes classy, intelligent and learning the job from donnie who has been doing it forever, we will be in good hands with allan houston

he can definately teach how to shoot but thats about it,his handle was ok his movement was alrite,he also had a good enough b-ball i.q so shooting an i.q he can help with

His dad was a college coach. I would say he’s about max b-ball IQ. Dude has the pedigree and he’s going about it the right way. I say give him a shot. Why the heck not?

he can help teach shooting, just leave the managerial stuff up to someone else.

Hopefully the supreme deity will lend a hand with his draft selections, free agent signings, and trades.

“learning the job from donnie”

David Kahn was too.

It’s not necessarily a good standard lol.

But I think Allan Houston’s intelligent enough to be a good GM.

Houston would be a great GM… Smart, intelligent, and well liked!!!!! That is sooooooooooo important when trying to make deals with other GM’s. Yes it is a business but people are human..

If you have a good relationship with someone or your feel they can be trusted in cases were you may not get the best of this deal but maybe down the road you can help me out (via being a third team in a trade, draft picks, etc…) you will do a deal with that person before someone you don’t like or trust.
I swear some of you guys on this thing amaze me with the stupid (yes) stupid things you say.
I think the Knicks are in the right direction and will be doing great things this year. May not be a championship but then again only ONE team wins that each year!!!!

I think he might be a good GM but needs more time. Probably more time than Donnie’s got. GMs can make or break a franchise with 1 move. Choosing a GM should not be a decision that is based on how much you like the guy personally or as a player.

wouldn’t be “mad” if Allan Houston was selected the next gm but I think Greg Anthony would make a better GM then Allan Houston….maybe much better..

@ Yo Son!!!

I can feel you on that move!

I think he’s too close with the owner.

It would do him well to be an assistant GM and then cut his teeth as a GM for another team far away from Dolan imho.

Still don’t understand why Pritchard isn’t high on the Knicks list, I even read that he was actually willing to wait on the Knicks job.

and you should you all should that’s why I say what I say…….

“I think he’s to close to the owner”

You obviously have never worked in business before, your saying thats a bad thing.. WTF are u talking about..

If Houston is close to the owner he has influence, and has power. Dolan takes into consideration what he thinks.. Hello people thats a very very good thing, it means the Boss respects him and trusts him..

Houston is home grown, and been in the organization for years already, which means he knows who’s who inside MSG, as well as the media. I love him as the next GM, he seems to get along w/ everyone and knows how to stay in the background.

Again, this dude DaGawd doesn’t make any sense, seriously WTF is the point of that comment.. LOL, hilarous another video game GM puts his 2cents in…

People if Houston knows the “players” in the org & media, and he is already established in NYC.. What is the ProbleM???

I really don’t get some of these posts w/ NO thaught what so ever, just hating to hate..

he’s learning from Donnie Walsh, wake up Donnie’s been doing this for IDK like 25yrs can u think of anyone better as a teacher…

Wake up and realize Houston has been groomed for this position not to mention Houston as been loyal and represented the org with CLASS!!

Greg Antony is a good look too, but Alan has been inside the Organization for years..

“… frankly my conversations are more centered around Xs and Os and player development…”

You’re friggin kidding me, right, Tommy?

I think there is a reason why certain players are still apart of the organization in some small way shape and form….while others are not….care free guys like Frazier,The Pearl,Allan,Herb,Starks(to a certain extent)are still around even Larry Johnson has made his way into Dolan inner circle…unlike guys who can actually benefit our team but tend to be headstrong type guys like a Patrick Ewing,Greg Anthony,maybe even Oakley..guys who are serious and bout there business….

can include mark jackson into the headstrong category…..

“I think he’s too close with the owner”

I don’t think it’s a major problem.

“You obviously have never worked in business before, your saying thats a bad thing.. WTF are u talking about..”

I’m worried about Dolan making Allan his puppet. He has no experience at the position and Dolan already thinks he’s smarter than all the executives in the league as it is. If Dolan feels strongly about something will Allan have the ability to say no?

That’s “WTF” I’m “talking about”.

However, I wouldn’t mind him staying on as an assistant GM. I just think the Knicks have suffered from a lot of incompetency in management and the front office, I would be very leery of hiring a guy with 0 experience.

No question.

But if Donnie Walsh believes that Allan Houston has a long-term vision and knows how to execute a plan then I’d feel confident Houston becoming the Knicks GM.

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That’s actually a very good point. Which expounds on my main reasons for being somewhat reluctant to say I’d love to have Houston as a GM. He has the image of somewhat of a yes-man and yes he’s carried himself with class while being a good soldier, but consider the general… James Dolan.

Terrifying thought.

I think he means his face to face dealings/”conversations” with the players and the questions he asks them.

Why is every comment that’s not in complete lockstep with the Knicks’ PR department categorized as “hate”?

I’m not even saying that Houston’s incapable as a GM, I’m saying that in light of his inexperience along with the incompetence of the owner could be a bad mix. That’s all. I wouldn’t have a problem with him being the assistant GM under someone more qualified that way he could gain even more experience.

I think he’s not a yes man!!! I think he goes about it with more thought and instead of beating a drum to get his point, he stiars the car his way slowing until everyone is on board.

But I can see your point!

I also think the players would trust him, and he was an recent elite player.

wow lol a “yes man” HaS? let me ask you a question, do you work for an employer or are you self-employed? the reason I asked is because if you were employed by someone you would have never typed that comment, how many employees have you watched pushed back on an owner request for a certain thing and not get fired? in one sense or another we all here that are employed are “yes men” because we have to listen to the boss and at the end of the day when this is all said and done, he is an employee and Dolan is the boss period (and what he says goes). I guess Walsh is a yes man too b/c a few people here in previous post brought up the point that he wanted to build a front office but Dolan wouldn’t let him (how should he have approached that)? and yes before you start tooting your horn i’ll say it for you, this proves your point about Dolan so save it (this can be said about a ton of other owners in the league).

Allan is good for the organization whether folks agree or not. I don’t care if their are haters whinning about Allan’s inexperience. There are experience GMs in the league, and they aren’t winning either, so what’s the point. I know one thing! Allan sure knows a scrub when he sees one, so I’m not worried about his basketball IQ! I also believe Dolan respects Allan decision making due to spending quality time with him. Allan is blessed with the ability to communicate effectively is one of his greatest leadership qualities.

I have worked with managers throughout my 26 years of military service who had all kinds of degrees and still can’t make simple management decisions, so experience sometimes is over-rated!

I hope Allan gets the GM job!

@ Has,
Allan Houston as a GM or Assitant GM, is a good move for the org. I understand if you feel that Houston is not ready thats fine.
But I think if the owner and Donnie thinks he’s ready then lets give him a chance too.

Allan Houston is a Knick thru and thru, I like to see a young brother get a chance to establish himself and represent, as well as be active in the community the Houston does,

@ PickNY

I agree w/ you 100%, sometimes i feel as if we the fans are always looking to get a big name for a specific position, when you might have a gem under your nose.

Allan Houston for GM, would really send a nice message to the rest of the league. It shows players thers life after playing, and our franchise “Knicks” takes care of their own. That has to be a good feeling to know if your a player and are intrested in the management side of the NBA.

@ YO SON
Thats a good point, I’d have to say it comes down to relationships and ego.
Not everyone gets along w/ everyone, and sometimes oppurtunities arise elsewhere. The one’s w/ a big ego stay bitter (Ewing) while others move on.

I do not think that because Houston has been quiet and in the background or u see a flaw in his personality that you might interpret that as a “Yes man”.
We’re not there for the day to day ops of the team.

Has,
It does show his loyalty and will to learn the ropes.

If Dolan was signing ur checks u might feel a little diffrent too.

If the Knicks as a franchise wants to “send a nice message to the rest of the league” or that they “take care of their own” then Dolan would stop being an ass and bring Oakley/Ewing in the front office/upper management or add them to player development/coach staff.

Ewing not, at the very least, getting an interview when they had a head coaching job vacancy (yet Mark Jackson did in spite of no NBA coaching/assistant coaching experience) had Dolan’s grubby fingerprints all over it.

Ewing has been an assistant for 3 different franchises, two of which were in the playoffs while he was on the staff and worked with two premier NBA big men, but Mark Jackson of ESPN analyst fame somehow was more entitled to an interview?

@Has
Your reaching right now, Oakley, Ewing,??, your missing the point.

The point revolves around Houston’s relationship with Dolan as well as others like Donnie, who last I checked is the Prez.
Ewing should be glad that they didn’t waste his time because D’Antoni was the guy the whole time.. HELLO !!

Houston is there NOW in place already, he’s not working for CBS or ESPN..

Has,
your loyalty is SUSPECT right now, how can u not be for Houston?

Donnie’s been a very good GM dude. He’s been one of the most consistant GM’s in the NBA dating back to his days with Indiana. You know this. Allan is a very viable candidate.

David Kahn is a joke. Means nothing here.

LOL

I’m for Houston, getting the assistant GM job.

Just as I was for Ewing getting an interview as a gesture and maybe being added to the assistant coaching staff.

And I would be all for Oakley being added in a player development or mentoring role.

That’s all.

I would really like to hear something substantial that proves Allan Houston is a “Yes Man” because I haven’t yet.

Just because he appears to be close with Dolan shouldn’t be a deterrent in him getting a job that others with more “experience” routinely screw up yearly in all types of sports, especially basketball.

All these gm’s are hired to get fired anyway, why not give a guy who’s learning from a very good GM a shot. I also think as a whole people in here confusing the needed skill set of a GM with that of a nuclear physicist.

This Kevin Pritchard talk has some merit to it, but he was just fired from Portland…and he drafted Greg Oden ugh. Sometimes when you hire people in the business world certain levels of experience can be overlooked. Houston could wind up being a natural at this gig.

I’m prob the last dude in here who’s going to scoff at a fellow minority getting an opportunity to be a sports executive(or any executive really lol)in this country…especially when he or she is a team oriented, good person(from what I see, hear and read) and who’s been through a ton of wars with this franchise.

And if anybody knows a bad contract when he see’s one, its Houston.

“If the Knicks as a franchise wants to “send a nice message to the rest of the league” or that they “take care of their own” then Dolan would stop being an ass and bring Oakley/Ewing in the front office/upper management or add them to player development/coach staff.”

Cmon HaS, its a little more difficult than that. Jeff Van Gundy and Dolan had a shaky relationship to say the least-Ewing and Oakley are Gundy Guys. They both felt mistreated by the Org on the their way out, some justified, some not from what I gathered years back. Dolan owes them what exactly?

Oakley has gone on record, saying some things about the way he was treated, instead of being a bit more professional bout things. He can take a walk for all I care. The stuff he prob said to Lebron did nothing to help our cause this summer, so I wont be cheering for the Oak man when he makes his annual “I need some NY attention trip” to the Garden this season.

Ewing on the other hand, should be back with the organization soon I would think, but like Oakley he went out kicking and screaming more or less and I don’t see any banners up there either…hurts me to say as Ewing’s my favorite of all time. His time will come.

I had this convo recently with a few friends, and I think its more about timing. When Dolan hired Layden, Ewing and Oak were still playing, then he hired Zeke. Ewing and Oak are Jordan guys and it makes sense why Isiah prob didn’t endorse their hirings…instead we got Mark Aguire and Chuck Daly’s main man Brendan Suhr lol.

I think its a better PR move to bring a guy like Ewing back to a culture of winning if that indeed happen IMO. Say what you want about Dolan, but the guy is very loyal, to a fault it seems. I wish I could say the same for guy like Charles Oakley tho.

Houston got paid FAT, got dealt a bad hand injury wise and got abused for merely just signing on the dotted line. Instead of crumbling under that pressure, he worked as hard as he could to make several comebacks, appease the fans and media, advise younger players along the way, and help pick up the pieces of a damaged franchise. Now he might be getting another chance to make a positive impact on the Knicks, how could you not root for that guy lol?.

This is much more than just “Sending a message to the fans or the league” this is good business.

Also, why would you want an abrasive fellow like Oakley, or an overly sensitive dude like Ewing handling front office/upper management decisions AND media dealings??? Not a good look lol.

This is the Knicks GM position, not “who’s gonna be the next pit boss at Duane Reade”.

it doesn’t matter how long som1′s been doin something it’s how good they are donnie on a scale from 1-10 gets a 6.5

an his g.m rating for the knicks is a 5

let me guess joe-V=joe the virgin rite..

HaS,

I’m sure there is a reason why Dolan did not offer Oak & Ewing a job, but I guess we aren’t the ones paying the bills – the owner is:(

Tell em’ how u feel!!!!

LMAO, this is a great move in the making, Houston as GM,, 2thumbs up…

Since for some reason my comment is awaiting moderation I’ll cut and paste this excerpt:

“Ewing on the other hand, should be back with the organization soon I would think, but like Oakley he went out kicking and screaming more or less and I don’t see any banners up there either…hurts me to say as Ewing’s my favorite of all time. His time will come.”

Make it to the Garden much?

“Oakley has gone on record, saying some things about the way he was treated, instead of being a bit more professional bout things.”

Uh… he also said that Garden security follows him around to this day whenever he makes his “I need some NY attention trip” and another reason he has been bitter. He hasn’t been a Knick since 1998 and Dolan still feels the need to treat him like an unwanted visitor, so I don’t think Dolan has been the poster child for professionalism here. I think you’re going way out on the ledge just to disagree with me on that one.

“Also, why would you want an abrasive fellow like Oakley, or an overly sensitive dude like Ewing handling front office/upper management decisions AND media dealings??? Not a good look lol.”

Never said that. THIS is what I said:

And I would be all for Oakley being added in a player development or mentoring role.

Still having problems with reading comprehension I guess.

I get it HaS, you’re just that anti whoever’s in charge, anti-establishment kinda dude huh? such a rebel.

1) Whats good with the petty semantics maneuver man? wasn’t surprised tho lol.

“Make it to the garden much”

LOL Clearly I was referring to the lack of banners the Oak man and the Big Fella brought Mr Dolan.

But to answer your question, yes many times, I’m from Hells Kitchen, the Gardens just 10 blocks away. Been to many many games.

2)I love how you talk about MY reading comprehension, yet you have a hard time comprehending and keeping track of your own work…Here is YOUR quote slick, not mine…

“If the Knicks as a franchise wants to “send a nice message to the rest of the league” or that they “take care of their own” then Dolan would stop being an ass and bring Oakley/Ewing in the front office/upper management or add them to player development/coach staff.” By HaS

“Bring Oakley/Ewing in the front office/upper management”

Ummm…my visions great HaS, hows yours? cuz u might wanna get it checked asap.

Now you did follow up with…

“Or add them to player devolpment/coaching staff”

But how am I supposed to distinguish what you write from what you meant to say?

Point is you suggested them both for both positions, front office and coaching/player development.

Then you go on in defiantly resond to what I said you wrote…

“Never said that. THIS is what I said:

And I would be all for Oakley being added in a player development or mentoring role.”

Yes HaS, you did say that. You said it in the post you wrote in response to Joe-V, not in the one you wrote about 5 minutes earlier, that I just quoted you on.

But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess…

I’m still waiting for some in depth HaS analysis on how Allan Houston’s a “Yes Man” lol.

I find it funny how you constantly spin your own rhetoric in here as if it is fact, or something close to being written by the Associated Press. I will say this tho, you are very very consistent.

Isn’t Houston just a front for the wizard behind the curtain. Zeke is back. . .

…Herb.

You made an assumption as to which position I meant for which player. However as you stated I clearly specified what position I’d like for Oakley. No, I’m not a anti-establishment dude. If being anti-Dolan makes me “anti-establishment” then I’m guilty as charged lol.

“I’m still waiting for some in depth HaS analysis on how Allan Houston’s a “Yes Man” lol.”

I thought you didn’t “like me”? Yet you hang onto my every word like a stubborn pubic hair. Gimme a break dude. I said Houston has an image of being a yes-man, maybeI should have stated that as more my opinion. Out of everyone from those Knick glory days, 100mil contract aside, Houston has always been described as being so tight with the owner. Even through the days when Dolan has come off as a meddling owner. He and Herb just seem to come off that way.

I won’t be responding to you any further Blooper, sorry man but it just seems you’re more concerned with me (even though you “don’t like me” lmao) than the Knicks.

Peace.

I thought you didn’t “like me”? Yet you hang onto my every word like a stubborn pubic hair. Gimme a break dude.

(pause) Easy now rude boy.

I just happen to disagree with a lot of the cynical Knick trash you spew in here man, thats all. I just quoted you like you do everyone else in here, as you critique grammar like an angry English professor. Thats cool man, do you.

As far as me “Not liking you” you clearly still didn’t see or notice the sarcasm in the way I wrote it with a lil ;)

This isn’t personal HaS, and you seem to think everyone is out to get you. Maybe that SNY spot gave you overnight celebrity syndrome dude, maybe not. All I know is I could care less if you respond to me or not lol If I feel the need to drop a dime of sense on one of your redundant Post’s I might just do it.

You got people in here questioning your loyalty dude lol. Your whole approach to this blog is tired and watered down…from what I’ve read.

And your Houston logic is still baseless, but thats cool man keep the BS train rolling Hater HaS.

Watered down.