What’s Fair is Fair

by Tommy Dee on July 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
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Bill Simmons

@sportsguy33: Don't ask why I'm thinking about this 4 weeks later, but NYK was the perfect landing spot for Anthony Randolph. That trade was sneaky-nice.

Jul 29, 2010 @ 11:11 PM from UberTwitter

Well, I have an idea…seriously though, first Hollinger now Simmons. What’s fair is fair.

  • bartnyk

    sneaky-nice son.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    we shall see
    if he’s healthy i think he can be the knicks second best player or mayb the knicks best overall player

  • Jayo

    It’s funny because AR would give D Lee the buisness if they played head to head for 25 + minutes ..

    Guess the trade was “sneaky nice” ..

  • BigTyme

    SNEAKY-NICE?! Gotta nice ring 2 it

  • DatNewYorker

    Knick Night Live is on HOOOOOOOOO!!!

    I’m Bored.

  • BigTyme

    Thinkin more about it, sounds like a dude who slips da bizness in girls drinks then has the nerves 2 brag 2 his boyz bout his ‘performance’_”I was Sneaky-nice yo”

  • PickNY

    Coach Nelson doesn’t have any patience for certain younger players. AR really didn’t like how Nelson only wanted him to just rebound and don’t do nothing else does sound cold! AR had the right to be piss because I’m sure he saw other players in the league developing and having fun.

  • jgilch82

    normally i would think all this talk about AR was kool-aid.. meaning how could a coach not play a player who has such talent…
    then i remember Nelly changing the focus of the offense to run through Mason instead of Ewing AND starting Hubert Davis over Starks..
    made me think … AR will probably will be an 8 time all star lol

  • illmatix

    I’ll tell you why people are starting to really see our off season moves…they have been so busy hatin on new york they didn’t take notice how sneaky nice Donnie has been

  • Dylan

    Yup. Considering the “Three Queens” probably had this planned for months and were never really available, Donnie had one of the best offseasons in the league. We upgraded at nearly ever position, added one of the best PFs in the league, and still saved some money for next year.

  • Mucha

    I can’t wait to see Anthony Randolph play in a Knicks uniform. If he reaches his potential the Knicks will be an Eastern Conference powerhouse in 2-3 years.

  • HaS

    Agreed.

  • brookdon

    +1

  • NoVaCaInE

    The issue I have with Randolph is he has no position. If he happens to reach his potential where does he play? IMO he can be used in the same manner as Lamar Odom as a back up 4. The only problem with that is he is light and needs to get his weight up.

  • PickNY

    Thanks funny but I agree!

  • PickNY

    Amen to that too! But you know there are and will be DW haters no matter what, especially on this blog. It’s all good because people do have their opinions.

  • brookdon

    I just wonder what AR’s role will be here…. Hopefully he beefs up to maybe 235-240 and adds a little muscle so he can start at the 5.

  • PickNY

    He will learn how to adapt playing against heavyweights. He will also be a nightmare to most as well, I hope.

  • Ol Dirty 187

    I think he is naturally a 3 or a 4 (like odam, as you stated). The problem with that is that we have Wilson, galo, and Amare who all play the 3/4.

    To be honest, if Randolph ends up being the player I think he will become I could care less if we sit galo or Wilson to fit him in the lineup. It’d be nice to see galo at the three with Amare and Randolph up front. Wilson seems to me to be a perfect 6th man wing player.

  • Ol Dirty 187

    Personally I’m real excited for this upcomming season…knicks have the potential to be a young and real exciting team!

    With a potential lineup (this is deff the lineup I’d like to see) of…

    Felton
    Wilson
    galo
    Amare/Randolph
    Randolph/Amare

  • PickNY

    Ole dirty 87,

    Man I don’t get caught up into who else may play the same position on the same team these days due to players needing to be able to play different positions.

  • PickNY

    Me three times!

  • Ol Dirty 187

    Yeah agreed…

  • http://twitter.com/MotorCityHero MotorCityHero

    You were just quoted on nykblog.com

    http://nykblog.com/2010/07/29/true-statement/

  • illmatix

    AR to me doesn’t need to bulk up much…I would be fine if he turned out to be wirery strong ala pippen

  • Knicks4life

    If Anthony Randolph reaches his potential, if Gallo reaches his potential, if Amare stays healthy, if Chandler can play the two, if Azabukie and Turiaf stay healthy. Lot of ifs.

    But I am excited for the season. For the first time in a long time I can’t really complain about the roster, especially if we sign Brown to play SG.

  • Mucha

    I think Anthony Randolph will be strong enough to play power forward in a couple of years. If he adds some bulk the Knicks will be able to play Danilo Gallinari, Anthony Randolph and Amare Stoudemire as the starting frontcourt. That’s really what I’m hoping for.

    Hopefully Amare Stoudemire will be the center version of Larry Johnson for our young players. Anthony Randolph and Danilo Gallinari are two of the most special talents in the league, I actually thought they were the most special prospects from the 2008 draft (with Derrick Rose). If they are willing to learn from Amare Stoudemire, the Knicks will be a problem in the East.

  • Mucha

    “Lot of ifs”

    I totally agree with you.

    “But I am excited for the season”

    Man I can’t wait!!

  • jgilch82

    Amare said in an interview he expects to play the 5 about 10-15 mins a night which means Turiaf will probably start at the 5… last thing we wanna do is upset Amare in year 1/5

  • Mucha

    Yeah of course.

    I think Ronny Turiaf needs to start and Anthony Randolph needs to come off the bench.

    But if Anthony Randolph adds some bulk I think he’ll be strong enough to start at PF in a couple of years and help Amare Stoudemire (C) with his help defense.

  • Chapzilla

    Best comparison is a young KG-skinny and raw. So everything negative they say about him, they said about the kid and it don’t matter. Dude will be a 5. Stop looking at Mike Ds knicks in pure positions…remember people were talking about lebron runnin pg, pick and rolls with ama’re. I don’t care if we have a whole squad of undefined positions (sf) let’s just win, finally.

  • JustinCharles

    a-men. one of the better posts on this board in a while.

  • Joe-V

    Anthony Randolph brings a lot to the table, his talent is off the charts, I think D’Antoni can get him playing on a allstar level by next yr. This Yr I’m thinking Randolph is in the most improved player argument, as well as a huge factor in our teams success…

    Its nice to fianlly have a Team with TALENT!!

  • Chapzilla

    I call Randolph blockin dwight howard and lebron a bunch of times, sumthin nasty this season. Oh yeah_can’t wait to see Ama’re abuse and dunk all over bosh…in the playoffs.

  • NoVaCaInE

    That would be a horrendous front court defensively. The Knicks would be lacking an interior post defender. I think Turiaf, Amare and Chandler would be a better front line with Azubuike and Felton in the back court. Gallo, Randolph, TD and Fields off the bench. I know this coach would never bring Gallo off the bench but this is the best starting line up defensively and offensively.

  • NoVaCaInE

    I disagree. Who guards the post? Both are more effective as help defenders and are both poor post defenders. Bad mix.

  • E-Roc

    yea people don’t say durant needs to get his weight up and he is wiry as hell.

  • YO SON

    “That trade was sneaky-nice.”

    Like only Isiah can pull off……respect his attributes.

  • YO SON

    if push comes to shove I think he would put anybody on the bench besides Amare…I dont think he has as much love for dude as people seem to think on here….gallo has been moved around rotation wise many times……

  • gianthinker

    PG-Felton
    SG-Brown
    SF-Gallo
    PF-Amare
    C-Turiaf

    I’ll rock with that.

  • gianthinker

    Except Isiah would have extended Randolph with a 6 year max deal before he ever played a game in NY.

  • jaknicksfan

    This year its Randolphs chance to have fun playing the game and develop into an all-star, hes gonna be great on this team

  • ds2488

    lol. When has Isiah ever pulled off a “sneaky-nice trade”. In fact, every single one of Isiah’s trades were the exact opposite. Sneaky-awful is more like it.

    Goes for the quick fix and flash over substance, so people think its a good trade to start and then actually realize slowly that the Knicks got completely screwed. But I guess we can go with sneaky-nice lol.

  • fauci933

    I’m sorry so now Isiah was solely responsible for the Lee sign and trade, as well as Amare signing here? Did Donnie Walsh trade for Eddy Curry and sign Starbury and Jerome James now too? Is this opposite day?

  • Chapzilla

    …think again. shannon ain’t even 50% here and turiaf ain’t startin. what about:

    felton —> cp3
    chandler—>Bukie
    galinari—>Melo
    Ama’re
    Randolph

    that could rock

  • danny7434

    I think anyone who thinks Randolph can or should play the 5 is nuts.

  • brookdon

    That would be a terrible offensive lineup. We would not score anything. And how is randolph a bad defender. 3 Blks per 40 min isn’t bad.

  • gianthinker
  • gianthinker

    Think again, I’m talking about if Brown signs and right now he has a much better chance at coming here than returning to the Lakers. And Randolph is not a Center so you might be able to switch he and Amare but not your starting 5 as is. And of right now everyone on the Knicks is saying Turiaf is our starting Center. And duh, who wouldn’t rather have CP3 over felton and Melo over Gallo? You can’t give me a hard time about writing in a guy we already made an offer to and write in two all-stars on different teams yourself.

    ….think again.

  • gianthinker

    Thank you. He’s a 3 or 4. Not a 5.

  • gianthinker

    Not to mention even if Isiah did find a way to pull of this trade of a guy who was leaving already and get 3 serviceable players in return he’s definitely owe GS draft picks until 2040.

  • Chapzilla

    no, it’s not nuts. dude’s defensive skills has him constantly matched up with the biggest player on the floor [5]. his offensive arsenal makes him a versatile 3/4. get it straight. he has the guts to take on that role and has added weight in the offseason. of course he and ama’re can switch positions, AR will mostly come off the bench but it would be great if he was good and healthy enough to start. turiaf is a career off the bench b/u center, not a starter. where did you read otherwise? if you’re basing your nba/knicks knowledge off of what people comment here, you’re thinking too small. get it together.

  • tsertain

    Bill Simmons wouldn’t know the first thing about basketball if an actual basketball drilled him in the head.

    And know this, there is a purpose behind this dirtbag making a positive comment about the Knicks.

  • Chapzilla

    of course cp3 and melo is a dream. we all know that. the optimistic fan will say it’s a “done deal” while the usual knicks pessimist will confirm the chances as slim to none. i’m 50/50 with brown. no offer on the table yet and lakers’ roster looks full/expensive. dude is exciting to watch but i’m not sure whether he makes us 5% or 35% better. really wanna see what the kid buike can do at the 2. no one’s giving you a hard time, its bball talk, chill out.

  • KnickolasKnickelby

    can i get a

    GO NY
    GO NY
    GO NY
    GO

  • KnickolasKnickelby

    AMARE DUNKIN
    RANDOLPH SLAMMIN
    TURIAF JAMMIN
    TURIAF BLOCKIN
    RANDOLPH BLOCKIN
    AMARE BLOCKIN
    ROOSTER STUFFIN
    GALLO BOMBIN
    DOUGLAS BOMBIM
    SPENCER BOMBIN
    AZUBUIKE SLASHIN
    CHANDLER SLASHIN
    LANDRY CRASHIN
    LANDRY SWISHING
    LANDRY DISHING

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    lmao,u wildin,landry will be gettin time just like MARCUS

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

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  • Mucha

    Amare Stoudemire’s not a center but he’s strong enough to guard centers – if he loses his explosiveness as he gets older then he could probably slide to center if Randolph bulks up and becomes strong enough to play in the post (as a PF)

  • Mucha

    of course cp3 and melo is a dream. we all know that. the DELUSIONAL fan will say it’s a “done deal” while the usual knicks REALIST will confirm the chances as slim to none

  • KnickKnack

    This team is in a funny place. The best and highest paid player is pounding in his prime and the rest of the team that matters is 2-3 years away. Unless AR, Gallo and Chandler make giant leaps this year, they are going to be traded up. Amare costs a great deal of money to just surround with potential. He might be warrior enough to inspire the kids. If he can then whether we win or lose no team will want to come anywhere near us. Coach Dantoni might like his team enough to try to inspire greatness. If it happens great, but the window is really two years. Amare has logged quite a few miles.

  • gianthinker

    Not off of what people say here. Off of damn near every basketball beat writer dude. I’ve only seen Turiaf play in Europe not even in the NBA so I’m not rooting for him or anything. I’m just going but what guys who get paid to cover this stuff say. Now they may be wrong but I have it quite together thank you. Learn how to talk to people.

  • gianthinker

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhbJO4nN5x0

    Check out the ridiculous block SB has in the middle of this video. They called it a foul but it was amazing. Crazy ups.

  • gianthinker

    Video of SB being interviewed about that very block LOL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbdtNfd7Vxk

    Even if we dont sign this guy that block was amazing. Check out his reaction….LOL

  • Bsems

    he up to 230 right now. drafted at 185.. gained up to 210 last offseason.. and this offseason hes up to 230.

  • HankNight

    Isiah would have given Mosgov a 6 year deal at 10-12 million per before he ever played a game in New York.

    …and he would have given the Mosgov’s Russian team 2 #1 picks, ever though they’re not in the NBA (Isiah thinks “what’s a deal if you can’t give away all of your draft picks!”).

  • NEW KNICKS, NO REGRETS!

    wow, that was nice,what is the Knicks waiting for? The guy won a chip, defends, shoots it fairly well, he is probably the top 5th athlete in the NBA…. Sign him…NOW!!!

  • Amarzel Tov

    Do you think Shannon could be a starter though? I’d give him a chance I guess.

    In terms of AR I’m really excited to see him play next year. Never watched him in GS but I can see he’s getting a lot of respect from peeps.