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Ron Artest Wants To Coach the Knicks

By Tommy Dee on Jul 30, 2010, 9:19 am

Via ESPN

I want to be a coach, bad. I’d love to coach the Knicks or St. John’s, but I’d go anywhere. I want to coach immediately after I retire. I’d be good for a bunch of reasons. I know the little things, like how important spacing is. I also understand how to deal with players, so I’m able to coach a player like me now. I know when the problem is emotional versus selfishness. I’ve hurt teams with my selfishness, and I’ve hurt teams with my emotion. I know the difference. If a player doesn’t listen to me, I know how to respond. And, of course, I know defense. It’s not just physical; it’s more than that. How do I get through a playoff game with only one foul, as physical as I am? It’s about knowledge. I know every player’s moves and tendencies. I know exactly where all 10 guys on the court are supposed to be, and when. I’m 100% sure this coaching thing will work. All I need is a good staff, and to watch more tape. One thing I don’t do is watch tape. I gotta start if I want to coach.

Well…

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  1. bmathews77
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:20 am at 9:20 am #

    Maybe he and Stephon Marbury can coach together and ruin a franchise somewhere together. I’m sure Isiah would want in on an executive job wherever that is as well.

    • johneco
      Jul 30, 2010, 9:54 am at 9:54 am #

      There is no comparison.
      Artest, while obviously having issues, is still a championship player and multiple Defensive player of the year.

      Marbury was considered a locker room cancer everywhere he went, and all his teams were underperformers (let alone non-championship caliber). I guarantee he will never coach an NBA team.

      • Mucha
        Jul 30, 2010, 11:49 am at 11:49 am #

        Artest >>>>>>>>>> Marbury

    • DatNewYorker
      Jul 30, 2010, 10:08 am at 10:08 am #

      @Bmathews
      Don’t compare him to Stephon Marbury because wherever Artest goes the team gets better. Like he said he lets his emotions get to him but when he learned how to control his emotions he can be the best player on the floor. GAME 7 Kobe was 3-16 at on point while Artest carried them team on both sides of the court. He is the smartest player on the floor most of the time. I don’t see why he can’t channel the talent and wisdom he has on the floor into coaching. I’ll take him over D’Antoni right now. I think he will be a great coach if he studies the game. He is a person that all players and coaches respect. I always was a Ron Artest fan.

      • bmathews77
        Jul 31, 2010, 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #

        I’m not comparing him to Marbury at all but you must admit that Artest was at times a head case. I agree he’s got a very high bball IQ but sorry I just don’t see him as a head coach, at least not anytime soon. Maybe some assistant coaching experience can help move that forward though.

    • BobbyFromBK
      Jul 30, 2010, 11:22 am at 11:22 am #

      Slow news day, eh, Tommy? You’re scraping, chief.

      • HaS
        Jul 30, 2010, 11:55 am at 11:55 am #

        At least it’s actually related to the Knicks and not Timberwolves’ news lol.

    • Amarzel Tov
      Jul 30, 2010, 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #

      Is anyone sick of this guy blabing his mouth off. I mean that video after the finals was funny, but most of the things he says are just annoying.
      “One thing I don’t do is watch tape. I gotta start if I want to coach.”

      I mean how retarded is that. I still and mad that we didn’t draft this idiot but in hindsight him and Starbury on the same team would have been a nightmare.

      • Bloop33
        Jul 30, 2010, 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #

        I think he would’ve kept Marbury in check actually.

  2. GoWrightGo
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:26 am at 9:26 am #

    Actually Ron makes a persuasive case there as to why he would be a good coach (with the one exception of saying he never watches tape). Assuming he does correct that, I think a volatile player like Ron who eventually matures out of that volatility can be an asset. He would know more about headcases than the standard run of the mill coach.

    Doubt he gets a major gig of any kind after completing his playing days.

    My advice….go coach an development league team at near no pay and work your way up. Stay out of college ranks Ron…no one will send you their kids.

    • KnickFan4Life
      Jul 30, 2010, 9:28 am at 9:28 am #

      I think PJax would have helped him gave him an assistant job but PJax is retiring soon supposedly…

  3. KnickFan4Life
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:26 am at 9:26 am #

    Ron’s never been a dumb player. Even in college I remember he was very smart on the court. His thing was always that he let his emotions get the best of him. He might make a good coach. He definitely has the passion for it…

  4. joetheknick
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:29 am at 9:29 am #

    Right now Ron has the desire, maybe the tools, and the potential to be a coach. time will tell if he gets the opportunity. I would not be surprised if he has some success. A very intense young man.

  5. danny7434
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:32 am at 9:32 am #

    I know this is off the subject but I can’t stand ESPN. They really have no clue what they are doing. Here is a line from their NBA runors section regarding the Knicks and how the players acquired in the Lee deal can be traded (Thanks ESPN, we only knew this weeks ago):

    “Yet, Randolph and Turiaf are projected starters for the team next season. So the Knicks would have to weight that fact if talks with either team get serious and either of these two are on the board to be included in such a deal.”

    In what scenario are AR and Turiaf starters?? I didn’t realize AR will be at the 2.

    • KnickFan4Life
      Jul 30, 2010, 9:47 am at 9:47 am #

      Maybe they are assuming AR is going to start over Gallo/Chandler…

  6. HaS
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:46 am at 9:46 am #

    I wish he’d retire right now so the Knicks could hire him as a defensive assistant. Good for him, I hope he gets the opportunity somewhere. Maybe he can get on Mark Jacskon’s staff if he ever gets a shot.

    It seems pretty tough to get that 1st chance as a head coach, especially if you start as an assistant. I think that’s the reason Mark won’t take an assistant job, he’ll probably end up a head coach before Ewing who has more experience.

    • johneco
      Jul 30, 2010, 9:49 am at 9:49 am #

      You think the fact that Mark seems really smart and Ewing doesn’t is irrelevant?

      I’d give Mark a chance but not Ewing, even though I loved him as a player.

      • KnickFan4Life
        Jul 30, 2010, 9:52 am at 9:52 am #

        Still think it’s very unfair Ewing has this rep as a big dummie. He was never a dumb player, actually quite the contrary. He also was a players rep if I remember correctly for the players association. Ewing hasn’t always expressed himself that well and he lacks in carisma/personalilty I think that has hurt him more if anything…

        • KnickFan4Life
          Jul 30, 2010, 9:54 am at 9:54 am #

          Yes he (Ewing) was president of the players association for 4 years. Usually not a slot filled by a dumb guy…

        • johneco
          Jul 30, 2010, 10:00 am at 10:00 am #

          Yea, but those are core skills for a coach. You need strategy, and the communication and charisma to achieve buy-in.

          You are agreeing Ewing lacks communication skills, so he is disqualified.

          Plus, c’mon, I can’t see him as a strategic genius either…

          • KnickFan4Life
            Jul 30, 2010, 10:20 am at 10:20 am #

            I think his communication issues have definitely hurt him. I just don’t think that is a matter of intelligence. People have different skill sets. I think it’s definitely a big skill for a head coach and I think it will keep Pat from getting a good head coaching job. He might get thrown a bone and get an interim job…

        • k-hodge
          Jul 30, 2010, 10:04 am at 10:04 am #

          I don’t think people see him as a dummy. I think it’s that Ewing is not a great communicator, IMO. And he does lack a certain amount of Charisma that I would want from a head coach. Mark, Doc Rivers, Byron Scott, they all have that SOMETHING coupled with being very good communicators.

        • flossy
          Jul 30, 2010, 10:11 am at 10:11 am #

          Ewing is not dumb, but can you point to anything he’s done as ast. coach for Orlando that suggest he deserves to be a head coach? How long has he been working with Dwight Howard who still has zero post moves?

          • KnickFan4Life
            Jul 30, 2010, 10:21 am at 10:21 am #

            I’ve heard Howard isn’t the most cooperative student always though. Pat did good work with Yao and it showed on the court…

        • Bloop33
          Jul 30, 2010, 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #

          Its a shame, Pats been called a dummy all his life. I hope he gets a shot soon.

    • KnickFan4Life
      Jul 30, 2010, 9:50 am at 9:50 am #

      I still think being an assistant first is probably the best route for most. Guys like Byron Scott, Avery, were assistants first. Very few guys get that premium GM/head coach job without first paying some dues…

    • HaS
      Jul 30, 2010, 10:29 am at 10:29 am #

      Well I think it’s an easier transition for a point guard who for all intents and purposes is the coach on the floor. I can’t say Ewing wouldn’t be able to coach in the NBA. He’s played for and been an assistant under some successful coaches, sometimes it’s all about situation (players and organization) and if he could put together a solid staff. I envision his style (dealing with players) would be similar to John Thompson.

      Ewing seems to have grown as a person since retiring and not having that constant NY pressure on him, he’s a lot more charismatic and personable. A lot of people blame him for not turning Dwight Howard into a post wizard, but I don’t think it’s that simple. He’s has two stiffs as big men to mentor as an assistant coach. Yao and Dwight are super-mechanical, they may never have pretty back to the basket footwork (Yao did get slightly better). Kareem, Hakeem and McHale would have no patience with either one of them lol.

      • ds2488
        Jul 30, 2010, 11:35 am at 11:35 am #

        lol, that’s true. Although I will say I think Kareem did an amazing job with Andrew Bynum, and Hakeem did some good work with Kobe(although that’s obviously much easier lol).

    • CircleLimit4
      Jul 30, 2010, 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #

      I have a uneasy feeling it might be stubbornness and a sense of entitlement that’s preventing Mark Jackson from taking an assistant gig. I have no reason why he wouldn’t take one if he wants to coach so bad.

      He’s a sub-par color commentator, imo and I don’t think it’s helping.

  7. KnickFan4Life
    Jul 30, 2010, 9:56 am at 9:56 am #

    I think Mark Jackson expects some org to give him a GM or head coach job just off an interview, and maybe the Knicks or the Pacers the two orgs he’s most associated with would do that but as it is right now, no…

    • Bloop33
      Jul 30, 2010, 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #

      An interview is usually the step that leads to a hiring no? What do you want him to do sing an Aretha song and juggle?

      He’s deserving as any player right now for a head coaching gig IMO. To his detriment, he wants to pick and choose his spots and thats not helping him at all. He’s prob one of the best floor leaders of the last 20 years in the NBA, coaching should be a cake walk for him I would think.

  8. trlove
    Jul 30, 2010, 10:01 am at 10:01 am #

    who cares about this idiot artest. this has to be posted?

  9. ds2488
    Jul 30, 2010, 10:13 am at 10:13 am #

    I would love for Artest to coach a team. Just watching him alone during games would make them entertaining. He would be great.

  10. Shakespeare
    Jul 30, 2010, 10:13 am at 10:13 am #

    I think I actually agree with him, lol. I met Ron once when I was a freshman at St. Johns, very nice down to earth guy…and you can tell by his comments and even by his play last season he has really matured and grown as a person….I think him playing for Phil will def help him be a better coach, and teach him how to get along w/ players like himself.

    i think if he gets a nice veteran staff he will make a great nba coach. not at my St Johns tho..lol, he’d give Lou a heart attack. lol.

    • dre mingo
      Jul 30, 2010, 11:34 am at 11:34 am #

      +1
      When I saw the headline i said O boy but when I read the article i did a complete 180 on the situation. If he could keep his emotions in check he can be a good coach.

      Why not St. johns? Shakespeare I grew up when St. Johns was relevant and I think Ron could help get St. Johns back to that level.

      • KnickFan4Life
        Jul 30, 2010, 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #

        At first I thought Ron in St. Johns would be crazy but now that I think about it a little it’s not too crazy. He would probably relate well to the type of players St. Johns usually recruits and honestly St. Johns needs help keeping local talent from going to other schools. I like the Lavin hire though and I really hope it works out for the Johnnies it’s been too long since they had a really good team (i.e since Ron left)…

  11. Mucha
    Jul 30, 2010, 11:41 am at 11:41 am #

    The NBA’s Ornette Coleman.

  12. PickNY
    Jul 30, 2010, 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm #

    Say what you want about Ron, but he can and will be an asset to teach defense. A smart GM or head coach can utilize Ron’s gift. It’s sad to see as many players don’t want to learn how to improve their defensive skills to get more playing time. I truly believe more coaches NEED to become more stern in dealing with players lacking defensive skills, especially BIGS! I would sit down with each big and watch film to show them how lazy their footwork looks and make it a point that they ARE the reason why the defense broke down. I agree that communication is a MUST during the game! They better be glad I’m not courtside because I would be in that EAR! Getting paid for all that cheese and don’t want to play defense makes me upset! If these guys would of have getting paid by performance in their contracts, I bet you many players will start playing defense based on points allowed! Wow, that would be sweet! Then again it could get ugly too having players taking one another just to get PAID!

  13. Amarzel Tov
    Jul 30, 2010, 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #

    Is anyone sick of this guy blabing his mouth off. I mean that video after the finals was funny, but most of the things he says are just annoying.
    “One thing I don’t do is watch tape. I gotta start if I want to coach.”

    I mean how retarded is that. I still and mad that we didn’t draft this idiot but in hindsight him and Starbury on the same team would have been a nightmare.

  14. blackwood
    Jul 30, 2010, 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm #

    I wish Ron Ron all the best, maybe start at a junior college and work his way up. Hating and bashing this guy for having dreams and aspirations does not make those who do it better people!! The guy has survived a very hard childhood and a lot of emotional issues to become a successful pro basketball player and world champion!! Follow your dreams Ron Ron I wish you the best!

    • Amarzel Tov
      Jul 30, 2010, 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #

      Alright you’re right I shouldn’t hate. I really like him as a player and he definitely deserves that ring, he made some great plays and had a great playoffs overall.

      He just talks a little too much. My a friend of mine actually interviewed him once and said he’s a pretty stand up guy.

  15. CircleLimit4
    Jul 30, 2010, 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #

    Don’t know how good he’d be with x’s and o’s but he’d definitely command respect from the players and could spark some fire and fight in his team.

    I’d give him a shot.

    • Amarzel Tov
      Jul 30, 2010, 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #

      I could see him being an assistant coach on the Knicks. Could be interesting. I just hope he doesn’t jump in the stands.

  16. Bloop33
    Jul 30, 2010, 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #

    I will say this tho, I do see a player or two getting snuffed hard for mouthing off to a coach Ron Ron. I

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