Amar’e's “Welcome to NY” NBA Commercial

That was all kinds of epic…

This is old, but it beats Timberwolves news any day lol.

Epic

“All that remains of a once powerful nation” gave me chills

that was good imma need to save this vid and share it

all i have to say is watch out!! felt like i was watching a movie trailer to a future box office sell out lol

it was cute…..but payroll aside, ON PAPER..

marbury
Crawford
qrich
Z-bo
curry
Chandler
lee
Nate
jj
balkmon
rose
even a healthy…though that was never the case jj(but still)

ON PAPER looks better then our current roster……if we would have had our current head coach coaching our old roster we would be a much better team I think(considering marbury and antoni never had there fall out in phx…)….just saying..

who cares about “on paper” …
there are things like chemistry and cohesiveness that stattics cant measure. Our roster now will hopefully excel there
i hope.

matter fact walsh and antoni first year together had gallo and duhon so you can replace balkmon and rose with those to to further my point…..

“who cares about “on paper” …
there are things like chemistry and “cohesiveness that stattics cant measure.

ummm 90 percent of our new roster is NEW at leat those guys played together b4..hahah..try again….on top of that theres talk about signing another guy and a possibility in eirhter another trade or just keeping brown……..ahahahah

“Our roster now will hopefully excel there
i hope.”

key words hopefully and hope…..I hope too….just sayin

I’ve seen enough 20 win seasons to know that anything’s better than Zach-Marbury-Jamal-Nate-Avi.

I love that signature move where he just hangs a bit longer than the defender and then throws the ball down the rim. It’s just so powerful and authoritative, it makes me shiver. And this on two repaired knees. it is a bit of a miracle..

Just awesome. That’s a cool commercial. Let’s prove everyone wrong this year!

+1. That’s like an allstar team of talented losers.

I think the main problem with those 20-win teams was lack of leadership on the floor. When your best player(s)do not act like leaders, there is no cohesion. it cannot come from the bench or from secondary players. If I look at our current roster (and payroll) this role must be assumed by Amar’e. So far in his career he never had to be that figure. I truly hope he can do it. If not we may end up as another talented but ultimately disorganized bunch of individuals..

“it cannot come from the bench or from secondary players.”

I agree somewhat.

Who was the Bucks leader last year?

who’s the hawks leader or houston when they made there run 2 years ago….

@ YO SON … i here you, chemistry takes time to develop. Chemistry and cohesiveness were probably the two worst words i could use there..
but my point was that marbury, craw, and zbo never have proved anything in thier career from a point of leadership or toughness, while felton is a solid well respected pg and amare is battle tested against the best in the west,

those 20 win season didn’t have this head coach further more if the coach could have been a better person or I should have said a bigger man then he would have put what happen in phx aside for the greater good…..that team whether you like it or not is better at least on paper which is my point….especially if you believe that that 6-3 start wasnt a fluke…and that was without it’s best player and curry(hate him or love him he can still contribute regardless be ignoratn if you want to)……

still hoping for the best but just sayin……

yep. bucks managed well without. But if you shoot to go deep into the playoffs you will need a leader. Bucks will get better with Jennings growing into that role. If he doesn’t that team will be hard pressed to make the playoffs this year.

Their coach.

@YO SON
so basically you are arguing we don’t need a guy who can provide coherence when things get heated? You can always find a team that does relatively well without a designated leader. It’s called an aberration. Atlanta’s leader is JJ and he is not a very good one.

lol these movie references are killin me.
But Im very excited to see Amar’e here next season and being the main guy will only elevate his game its what he’s always wanted.
As far as taking down the three queens we are going to need to play as a team that game ESPECIALLY on defense and remember there is only one ball.
I haven’t had this much anticipation for a Knicks season in a looooooong time! Thanks Donnie!

Curry hasn’t been able to contribute in 3 years. That’s what you get for taking years off and growing so ridiculously overweight that you can’t run for more than 5 minutes without blowing out a knee.

I get what you’re saying. That’s a talented team. But every single one of those guys was a career loser at that point. Marbury had 1 playoff team the year before, but Nash quickly showed that he could do much better than Starbury, and Kidd did the same thing earlier, and KG knew full well that Starbury was a loser. Same thing with Randolph. Crawford had the longest streak in the NBA without going to the playoffs. We all know Lee’s limitations shall we say to be nice.

I see what your saying but lets not pretend like marbury never played on playoff teams..matter fact you can argue the playoff teams he played on he was the best player..they didn’t get very far but they still made the playoffs and that’s really all I’m HOPING for this year…

Z-bo is offensively better then Amare….he’s a better rebounder as well..the griz were in playoff contention for most of the season while Z-bo was the leader….they were actually raving about his leadership qualities on a very fairly young and inexperience teams….and I there is a possibility that the chinese version of steph is still better then our starting point guard so you can imagine back then….just saying….

“Z-bo is offensively better then Amare”

Get out!

zbo is not better than Amar’e offensively. He is craftier in balancing out his lack of explosiveness, but all in all not a better offensive player. Marbury played in the playoffs with KG and once in Phoenix for a first round I believe. Him being the “best” player was part of the reason why they never went farther. Same goes for zbo. If he is your leader, you are not going deep.

“but Nash quickly showed that he could do much better than Starbury,”

funny you mentioned that since you like for others to look up quotes to back there arguments go look up the quote that Nash said about marbury and this “system”..matter fact Nash has said a couple of quotes about there particular beef and or situation..which actually favors marbury in 1 shape or another…

“KG knew full well that Starbury was a loser.”

no need for me to elaborate on that comment thats your emotions/hate getting the best of you again… it’s ok..

Crawford had the longest streak in the NBA without going to the playoffs.

which exemplifies my opinion on STAT and those who always run to it for there explanation of everything ..that is 1 of the worse/dumbest STAT that I have ever seen…

“We all know Lee’s limitations shall we say to be nice.”

not a problem if he is your back up pf..as he would/should have been…

“Their coach.”

Exactly.

Amare’s a better basketball player than Z-Bo in every aspect of the game aside from rebounding.

“I haven’t had this much anticipation for a Knicks season in a looooooong time! Thanks Donnie!”

+1

nah I said that marbury was the best player on there teams and didn’t get far..I acknowledge that…didn’t the net team make the playoffs not sure dont remember ..was the best player on the Knicks team that made the playoffs..and I know your not getting far with Z-bo as your second best player but I’m comparing it to our current roster and there not getting very far at all either even if they make the playoffs which may be very hard for them to do at least in there first year….

and it’s not a run away with Amare being better offensively it’s not a wide gap at all you can make a argument for both cases..and you never seen Z-bo play with Nash either keep that in mind..

1. No idea what your first point is about Nash and Marbury. Nash is a better pg than Marbury, no question. lol. I know you hate Nash, but I would hope even you could admit that.

2. UMM, like usual, didn’t answer the question. whatever, didn’t expect anything more.

3. Again, no idea what your response was. Simple fact that Crawford had the longest streak in the NBA of not being in the playoffs. Pretty much the definition of a losing player, which was my original point.

4. Again, he wasn’t a backup because Curry could not contribute. So he was a starter. So…lol

neither one of them plays defense really so what else is there Z-bo is a natural scorer on the block with his back to the basket and has longer range since you guys luuuuuuuv talking about jump shooters and range…he may be a better free throw shooter too…matter fact Z-bo has better handle and he never played with nash you dudes are wrong the more I think about it…..Amare makes his money off of pick and rolls..iso is medicore..he may be a better passer as well now that I think about it….the thing is z-bo dont pass much.ahahaha..he’z a better and more skillful player….amare is just a physical freak that’s the only advantage game wise over z-bo….can you imagine z-bo with amare atheleticism…maybe on of the best PF of all time….

I stopped reading after I saw you put “z Bo is a better offensive player than Amare”

don’t forget Isiah too….geesh..keep hating….haha

haha. FAIL.

“Amare’s a better basketball player than Z-Bo in every aspect of the game aside from rebounding.”

Say what you will, but if Zach was half as athletic as Amar’e he would be the best big man in the NBA bar none.

His footwork and craftiness around the basket is light years ahead of Amar’e's (it has to be because he can’t jump over a phone book) and his jumper is better though Stoudemire’s J has improved.

I could see someone believing his game is offensively more polished than Amar’e's.

we back on this awaiting moderation bs…..w/e..

“Say what you will, but if Zach was half as athletic as Amar’e he would be the best big man in the NBA bar none”

No doubt!

But he’s not!

His footwork is amazing but it doesn’t make a better offensive player than Amare.

*him

“don’t forget Isiah too….geesh..keep hating….haha”

I thought Alan Hahn debunked the myth that Isiah was significant factor in the Amar’e signing? Amar’e hasn’t mentioned him once now that I think about it. The guaranteed max money was the determining factor imho over every thing, as it should be for a father.

bs2488

1.first off all I was saying is that Nash said that Marbury was taylor maid for antoni “system” I’m sure you hurd or read it some where..best ringing endorsement anyone can ever give coming from a guy who nearly perfected it….

2.second you never asked a question….get your ish together before you come at me trying to get cute….cornball….

3.my point about the commen you made in regards to Crawford is that it’s a baseless simplistic rational that you and others just use to justify your hate/ignorance all good..as if Crawford isn’t better then morrison and the lakers wouldn’t have won chips if Crawford was on it or the spurs for that matter.

kicc roccs….

heard’

The gap between Amare and Z-bo is huge. One is fat is the other is constantly working to improve his game. They both score, but one makes a defense collapse off of spot up shooters and the other crowds those shooters.

Plus the comment about that team being better than the current roster is meaningless. First, we know that the combination of fat and unfocused and out of position players we threw out there sucked. We might have made a run to be mediocre for a bit, but there were no stars growing out of that compost heap.

This lineup has three potential stars and one legitimate allstar who has learned how to be the man on a playoff team when the odds are against you. I don’t think any of those dudes could hang in the intensity of the last PHO LAK series.

This is no where near a finished product.

DW knows that his investment in Amare is a waste unless he can bring him talent that is not looking to peak in 3-4 years.

and for your 4th comment of course if curry was hurt he cant play so lee starts but if curry was healthy then he would have started because lee is not better then z-bo…only reason curry wouldn’t have is in the case of this head coach who has shown he likes to go small.. but I was considering a HEALTHY roster.all things considered..sooo..but I know you try 2 be funny or sarcastic and miss my original point just to make you weak responces….typical…

now show me where he wouldnt have gotton max money anywhere else….

alan hahn said he wouldn’t trade gallo even if it ment getting CP3 or carmello so you see where his head is at..lost a lot of credibility…it’s out there continue to deny it if you want too…I told YOU’z how effective Isiah can be in a positive mannor(the negative has been well nocumented continue it if you will you havenothing else better to do)and it has come to pass….AHAAHHAHAHAHAHA

DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

“now show me where he wouldnt have gotton max money anywhere else….”

Guaranteed max money for 5 years? No one else was offering that. No one. Not even his former team would offer him 5 guaranteed years.

Switch it around, show me another team that would have offered it to him…

Just look at the teams that had cap space this summer, the only big markets teams were New York, Miami (who’s first choice was Bosh) and Chicago.

Chicago might have been the only other team who could afford to sign a player with uninsurable knees to a guaranteed 5 year max contract, but they’ve proven to be cheap at times so I doubt they would have offered that to Amar’e and his knees.

not suprise you guys are the same ones that wanted to start billy at the 2…and all I can do is laugh…..and couldn’t wait to laugh even harder because the last laugh is so sweet….how billy worked out for you in the summer league haha oh let me guess he needs to get use to his weight yea right gotch..wonder if curry needs to get use to his weight as well…hahaha

lol. I like the name by the way. Very cute. Ill start calling you NO SON, for obvious reasons.

1. Marbury clearly wasn’t the same player coming into that year. He took a year and a half off from basketball going into spring training, and he declined to play with the Knicks even though Dantoni for once put his pride away and asked Marbury to be the starting sg the rest of the season after the trades. He ABSOLUTELY STUNK for Boston down the stretch and in the playoffs that year.

2. Again, not responding to the point. Just letting your emotions get the best of you. Whatever.

3. You’re right for once…the argument is simplistic. I said Crawford was not a winning-type of player, and backed that up with FACTS. Something which means nothing to you Im well aware.

I’m not saying he didn’t meet or talk with Amar’e, but so did Spike Lee and others, I’m just not sure he was as significant factor as you think.

I’m not one of those fans who blames Isiah for everything wrong with the Knicks including the health violations at the concession stands either, but you’re beating that drum mighty hard.

Also, the next time Amar’e says Isiah’s name will be the first.

Guaranteed max money for 5 years? No one else was offering that. No one. Not even his former team would offer him 5 guaranteed years.

NO your assuming nobody would have show me were it says NOBODY was giving him the money show me each team a reporter form each team that would have NOT given him that money…because NOBODY thought gay ws getting that money from memphis especially in there finical situation…a lot of people couldn’t see lee getting that money a lot of dudes was getting paid in ways nobody forsaw….and we also seen some of the best take less for a better situation in there eyes….so you cant completely define his motives for signing here is for the max….and if you still think so show me where nobody else wouldnt have paid him that money…matter fact dudes said JJ was crazy for not taking atl offer a year back said he would NEVER see more money…he played worse AND GOT MORE MONEY…..

and 4. You can’t consider a healthy roster if the roster isn’t healthy lol. Eddy Curry was constantly hurt going into that season, only to get hurt in training camp after missing the opening of it while being sick and vomiting. The guy was never healthy, because he was never in shape to be healthy. Part of the problem of trying to build your franchise around a guy who doesn’t want to play basketball.

marbury is better then felton years back w/e time machine your trying to use..it had nothing to do with comparing marbury to nash and once again YOU NEVER ASKED A QUESTION……why do I even bother entertaining you..you will stop at nothing to refute me and it has nothing to do with what Im saying….so before you respond and say I dont understand what your saying then dont respond to me at all…dueces(scapegoat busterz on here use all the time to refute me..ahhahaa..typical)..(side note)you been ducking me because of past back and forth about Isiah and what attributes he can bring to the table and I was right….you ducked me about gallo and his my reference to max players and there boys(as influence) not acknowledging him or even knowing who he was…and how max players and there boys would show more respect to Isiah then walsh….I told you and others how if Isiah was the face and not in the back round we would have been in a much better situation(they looked at walsh like wtf are you doing in my office…ahahaha..but go head and revisit the past it has nothing to do if Isiah would have been the GM for the 20101 plan)…your wacc kicc roccs for the day I’m done with you ……tootles…AHAHAHAHAHHHAhhAHhahAhahaa

HAS THEY MET AT HIS HOUSE THERE WAS REPORTS THAT WE WAS GOING TO BE THE ONES LEFT WITH NOBODY WHEN YOU GUYS WERE LAUGHING AT THE HEAT THINKING THEY WERE COMING UP EMPTY…

w/e…..the facts are out there….ahhahahaa

lol. Very mature NO SON. Very mature.

Wilson Chandler did a great job drawing max free agents right….LONG LIVE ILL WILL

Never responded to any points.

We all respect Isiah’s attributes lol.

I never thought the Heat would come up empty, that wasn’t me. I just said that he met with Isiah I’m not denying that lol. What I said is I think the money spoke louder than Walsh, _’antoni, Houston, Isiah, Spike, the Suns’ Gorilla, Knicks City Dancers, the Easter Bunny and whoever else Amar’e cam across before he signed his name on that dotted line.

Like I said I’ve yet to see an interview where Isiah is mentioned by Amar’e as specifically being instrumental in convincing him to sign here. That’s all.

I never put Walker at the 2 in any lineup of mine. I don’t even think Chandler can be a 2 and he’s a much better all around player than Walker.

BTW

Stoudemire could also entertain offers from Miami, Chicago and the Nets, all of whom have substantial cap room. None of them are expected to offer a max contract, however. Stoudemire is a possible financial risk because of his injury history — including knee surgery in 2005 and eye surgery in 2009 — and his contract cannot be insured.

It was that risk that prompted the Suns to break off talks with Stoudemire on Friday. Stoudemire was seeking a six-year deal. He rejected the Suns’ final offer, a five-year deal that was predicated in part on him meeting certain playing-time requirements in the third and fourth years, according to the Arizona Republic.

Via NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/03/sports/basketball/03nba.html

“the facts are out there….ahhahahaa”

marbury wasnt benched because of anything that happened in phoenix,e was benched cuz the rest of the players on the Knicks back-stabbed him by goin to the coach and tellin him that steph was the reason for all the disfunction

lol man, speaking from experience, its just a waste of time to argue with him, especially when you pull facts from articles. It just makes him crazier and more hypocritical.

I really enjoy his comments, but its better off to just not engage him.

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Wait, is that PRESENT day Marbury playing with a CURRENT day Chandler, Lee, Nate ?

You can’t have both. Have to remember they were pups then.

off topic, but this tyreke kid loves to speed not only on the court…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/01/tyreke-evans-speeding-vid_n_666600.html

This is what was running through my heas as I watched that clip…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBO0Cluv_o&feature=related

Oops. I meant PAST (in his prime) Marbury.

thats true but ar seems to be the second biggest catch of the summer and he is a pup to…..at least we hope….

matter fact Lee and Nate wasnt pups walsh and antoni first year I take that back….

“Stoudemire could also entertain offers from Miami, Chicago and the Nets, all of whom have substantial cap room. None of them are expected to offer a max contract, however”

Chicago and NJ didn’t have enough capspace to sign 2 max FA’s and their primary target was LeBron James. They were OBVIOUSLY not expected to offer Stoudemire a max contract because they wouldn’t have had enough capspace to sign LeBron James – even though LeBron took less to sign with the Heat.

I think Chi and NJ would’ve offered Amare a max contract if they knew that LeBron and Dwyane Wade were off the market. But they needed to wait until LeBron made his decision to sign Amare – the Knicks didn’t.

but I’m glad you brought the term pup up to further my point.because I was meaning to say before….antoni loves veteran players…that roster had waaaay more seasoned players then our current roster…2 of the old Knicks played for him before ..I bet if you was able to pull antoni to the said and talk to him antoni off the record….I honestly think he say that he prefer the old Knick roster to the new…marbury included…..especially if there beef from phx never existed without a doubt…..

Love Tyreke as a basketball player.

Hate people speeding and putting lives in danger for nothing.

You really think Chicago would have offered Stoudemire a guaranteed uninsurable max contract over 5 years where he didn’t have to meet any incentives?

I doubt it. Especially with an owner who is so cheap with his basketball team.

We’ll never know for sure though.

If I could afford the cars some of these athletes drive, I’d speed too. I speed now sometimes and I don’t have a high performance sports car.

LOL

Now, if I was a 20 year old millionaire? HA!! I think I would hardly ever drive under 100 mph.

dudes way back when had the audacity to ask for a trade for Fernandez in abundance(cant believe I’m discussing this nonsense again but my points will be read/heard)….I came onto the scene saying that fernandez was trash and wasn’t ish and what to do you know Roy went down his opportunity was there to prove me wrong and he was NOWHERE to be found…dudes to this day still talking about how much heart and fire he has…..well where da fucc was that heart and fire at when portland needed it most….AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAahaha….(p.s. lay off the fernandez post not worth the amount of attention regardless what happens..better yet whats up with the up date with brown..not worth much chatter either…just sayin…..and if anybody thinks he should start over ILL WILL is a darn FOOL!!!!!!!!)

LONG LIVE ILL WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Didn’t that team have its chance? What’d they do? Nothing. Let’s not bring up that bunch of losers anymore.

thank you much…

and that post is from a bias NY point of view hoping for the best from us….and bs you can try to hope on that bandwagon but you never even came up with as much of a source so stop it….not like I need it to believe what dudes are saying just saying……

and back to HaS you mean to tell me that you didn’t hear that Amare and Dantoni met at Isiah house……

I spent some time in Germany. No speed limits there, so going 110 is nothing unusual there.. But Mucha is right, you would have insane accidents all the time. well.. keep the speed on the court, Tyreke!!

+ a million

I didn’t hear that…do you have a source?

lol. who is the girl? my vote is on Bosh..

Maybe not Chicago but it’s not out of the question considering that Amar’e Stoudemire’s a better basketball player than Carlos Boozer who’s also injury-prone.

The ambitious New Jersey Nets would’ve signed Amar’e to a max contract – no question about it. But they couldn’t do it before knowing what LeBron James would do.

You get a mega Bloop!!! for comparing that group of whoppers to the “new look Knicks”. That teams best and smartest defender is Q-Rich, end of story.

Just reading that bumjuice lineup was difficult for me.

side’

“Didn’t that team have its chance? What’d they do?”

umm not really…but what they do…umm just go 6-3 should have beat the bucks at home and went 7-2

“Let’s not bring up that bunch of losers anymore.”

but we just brought in a couple of more losers truth be told from gs…and felton had 1 year of success(playoffwise) and darn near got his spot ran….just sayin…

and he would still be if he was on this roster what are you talking about..ahahaha my point exactly…….

Z-Bo is not better than Amar’e offensively lol. Sure he has a knack for snagging bounds, but I wouldn’t trust him trying to get a 50-50 ball when matched up against Amar’e lol.

Your trying to compare a beat up Mazda MPV to a Range Rover.

Zach still an enigma in my mind, you just cant trust him as a professional.

“and that post is from a bias NY point of view hoping for the best from us”

It referenced the Arizona Republic as a source if you didn’t notice that little detail.

“and back to HaS you mean to tell me that you didn’t hear that Amare and Dantoni met at Isiah house……”

I didn’t hear Amar’e himself say that Isiah was instrumental in convincing him to join the Knicks or thank him in any way. I only heard Walsh say thank you to him along with a group of other people.

That’s all I’m saying.

“Now, if I was a 20 year old millionaire? HA!! I think I would hardly ever drive under 100 mph.”

These views do not reflect the thoughts of TKB, it’s posters or it’s sponsors.

LOL

“I could see someone believing his game is offensively more polished than Amar’e’s.”

That someone is Me..say My name….I said basically what you said and then some first.. was first to acknowledge the fact.. so acknowledge me….what you blind need some glasses to see(shorty lo..hahaha)…..

sad to see that kind of recklessness.

Guys like Jay Williams come to mind when I hear about stuff like that.

Hopefully for Tyreke its just a one-time thing and he’ll have learned his lesson.

and where exactly did you hear the isiah house meeting news?

Great video…. It gave me chills as well. A once powerful nation!!!! Lets hope for all good things…

Yo son

There is only 3 defensive players on that entire roster. You have a Qrich, an old Rose and Jeffries the bum. Chandler was young and inexperienced to be effective on defense. On our current roster we have Tariaf, Azubuiker, Chandler, Felton, Douglas, Timofey Mozgov, and Randolph. Our defensive players can all play on the offensive end as well. Now if you add a All-Star in Amare: you now have a better team.

my source about them meeting at Isiah house…was 1050 radio and EVERY radio personality on there(1050espn happens to be the home/flag ship station for The New York Knicks)..umm Steven A. Smith, Chris Broussard….yea I know……but there you go….others as well but w/e….let the hate begin..

real talk just because the newspapers didn’t report it doesnt mean it isn’t true just because you didn’t see him say it on t.v. doesn’t mean it wasn’t edited….theres a real hate for Isiah like never been seen before(Barry Bonds is the closest that comes to mind)..so to think that dudes arent going out of there way to discredit that man then lie to yourselves…ONCE AGAIN tkb didn’t acknowledge Isiah untill like 2 days after I heard about it so how da fucc can I hear it before them….prime example….but it’s all good…dont give him his due..Imma speak on it whether dudes want to acknowledge it or not….HaS and whoever else didn’t you guys hear or see the interview walsh said Isiah he was one of the first to be mentioned(watch the haters come and say Dolan made him do it..hahaha.typical)I give props to websites such as this that gives dudes the opportunity to speak the truth such as Me YO SON….while dudes pull cowardly acts to discredit Isiah and throw his mental health break down issues as a way to detour any thoughts in him coming back but pretend like they care about his well being(don’t know about you dudes and how you get down but dudes who take the work home with them good or bad is alright with Me…win lose or draw)….can see the disgusting act from a mile away…but at the end of the day it’s all good and I at least have a little love for everybody……The truth still will be told regardless!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have got to be kidding me! The only year Z-Bo wasn’t a totally cancerous ball-stopper was last year. Last year Amar’s Stoudamire made 2nd team All-NBA at center and was outplaying Pau Gasol in the Western Conference Finals. Stat is statistically the most efficient high-volume scoring big man in the NBA there is just NO QUESTION he is better than Z-bo.

all you doing is discrediting players from a couple years back who were a couple of years younger for players on our roster who played for a team who ran the same system played less defense and had similar results record wise..all good your just being a fan(atic)….

“The only year Z-Bo wasn’t a totally cancerous ball-stopper was last year.”

lie…but I said that was the case most of his career I acknowledge that but I’m pretty sure he is a better passer then Amare..Z-bo is 1 of the most fundamentally sound dudes in the NBA……

sorry to break it to you man, but dudes don’t need to go out of their way to discredit Isiah. It’s pretty easy after all. It’s not really discrediting him so much as “respecting his attributes”.

Did you ever consider that Donnie was being nice to Isiah and everyone else who helped the organization out by thanking them publicly? He thanked Spike Lee a lot too, does that mean Spike was solely responsible for bringing Amare to the Knicks?

And also, I understand and respect that players have respect for Isiah. He was after all one of the greatest players ever in the NBA, and players should respect that. But I’m not really getting how that reflects on his work as a gm or anything like that. Just saying…

Now there’s a conspiracy going on to destroy Isiah’s reputation?…as if he hasn’t done that enough by himself.

“I only heard Walsh say thank you to him along with a group of other people.

That’s all I’m saying.”

NO..that’s all I’m saying if Walsh is suppose to be the ring leader behind this madness that’s all you need to hear it from but reports will tell you he had nothing to do with it and MAYBE say a small minute part….as others on here all of a sudden say yea he can have a small role as a scout or somthin in the backround somewhere…..btch’z plz

Haha you’re too much. So Walsh had nothing to do with it except for maybe a tiny tiny part, while Isiah essentially ran the Knicks offseason behind the scenes?

lol. What are you actually saying? That Isiah deserves all the credit?

Isiah is a 2 time champion he took a chance at a no win situation and lost what have you guys done besides blog.

I just got back from a nice vacation and I still see a certain person’s name being mentioned here…Unreal! Will it ever end? (YO SON) As we look to greener pastures we keep reminding ourselves of those dark days..Who cares!
“dont give him his due..Imma speak on it whether dudes want to acknowledge it or not”
Acknowledge what?? WHO CARES ABOUT ISIAH!! MOVE ON..LET IT GO MAN! Lets now support a new group of players, a group with potential and flexability established after he made us a laughing stock…enough!!

Whatever we got a nice long look at Z-bo and I’m not sorry I’ll never have to watch him get the ball on the block and do 10 seconds of head fakes while everyone else stood around watching before inevitably shooting a 15 footer.

READY MY LOYAL KNICK FANS IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO MOVE ON AND BE SUCCESSFUL..TONIGHT IS THE LAST TIME WE SPEAK OF ISIAH…LETS NO LONGER ALLOW HIS NAME TO BE BROUGHT UP ON THIS SITE.

WHO’S WITH ME??
THAT IS SOMETHING TO ACKNOWLEDGE!

They looove bringing up the candyman. Say it three times, go ahead: Isaiah x Isaiah x Isaiah – and look, the Knicks are back in NBA hell. Isaiah’s been a sucka before we got him people.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Magic-Johnson-blasts-Isiah-Thomas-in-new-book-I?urn=nba-197683

Since we had to go the hall of fame route…why couldn’t we get an old Knick as GM instead of him? (I’m happy with the current GM/Coaching situation…for now)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/428274-10-bold-predictions-for-the-new-york-knicks-this-season

10 Bold Predictions, one of them is that Gallo will score 20+ PPG and be an allstar.

Nice Hoopsworld Article;

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16971

How the New York Knicks Measure Up

“WHO’S WITH ME??”

(crickets crickets)……AHAHAHAhahaAHhahahahaa….

I’d rather “just” blog then be in the spotlight for further (Layden) decimating a franchise and its future, in addition to embarrassing said franchise with a sexual harassment case…but hey, that’s just me.

very good article. Interesting. At the very least, I think it’s safe to say the Knicks will be exciting and athletic and highflying next year.

Ya I read that article earlier, aside from the rampant typos throughout it, it got me even more excited for this upcoming season. Usually I’m gearing up for football season, but it’s hard to think about anything but the Knicks.

here is a quick BBall IQ test.

what Immediately comes to mind when you see this list of players besides loosing.

“Zach-Marbury-Jamal-Nate-Avi.”

It’s late so I’ll give the answer…. drumroll…

that the man selling shoes in China was clearly the cancer if you think for a minute about it.

Zack, craw and Nate are on winning teams and clearly contributing now. Lee was thought off well enough to become an all star and awarded 80 mil. Remains to be seen if he’ll earn it but i suspect he will.

Nah he wouldn’t be, Felton is a much better defender, as is Azubuike. Your posts are pure comedy SON.

SON, that group of players contributed to one of the worst era’s of Knick basketball we’ve seen since Layden’s boys. What are you burning when you write some of this stuff dude? lol.

Z-bo’s got good footwork, but Amare has great footwork also, contrary to what people are saying in here. He’s very polished and not just athletically gifted.

Amare’s handle is far superior than Zach’s and he has much better shot selection as well. His Passing out of double teams is light years ahead of Zachs’, as passing is one of Zach’s biggest issues as a baller.

Tell me if I’m wrong or not, but is Zach not completely worthless on the defensive end aside from his rebounding? lol the dude’s basically a big orange plastic agility cone on defense…minus the agility part.

He took a no win situation and failed miserably on most counts. There were a couple of bright moments but less than I can count on one hand. It’s understandable that people have a distinct degree of ire for the faces of Knicks’ management over the past decade, especially Isaiah as he is so high profile. I personally don’t hate the guy, and I hope he can clean up and maybe give back to the Knicks in whatever limited role DW will allow. He messed up big time and it’s ok if people don’t want to give him another chance. That’s not unreasonable.

Actually I see those names and think how the hell did we go from Ewing, Oakley, LJ, Houston, Starks, Harper, Mase, Sprewell and a slew of bench players to that dung heap. Not one of those players coulda made the roster when it was jammin.

I just read that thread about Zbo vs Amare and here is the difference between the two besides obvious athleticism.

Amare 1.2.3.go

Zbo 1.2.3. jab step..4.5.6. other jab step…everybody watch…and maybe go.

We still need a goon an Artest an intimidater! The hear are high end talents but soft fragile with no real heart if u punk them! Mase would son any of those 3! we need that guy to get in there ear like ” Thats my word i will bust ur shiiit if you even try to come in the paint” take them out there game and make them fold under pressure.

BS you just naming names…….felton had circles ran around him by nelson and az would look like a decent defender on gs wtf….q rich is a much better defender then the dudes you named..you probably havent seen az play 30 games his intire career but you read somewhere he was a good defender …ahahaha…meanwhile q rich always guarded the best player here and was playing d in this past season including playoffs..he cant shoot anymore or back people down how you think he’s still a starter everywhere he goes can guard 2′z and 3′z…he revoluntized his game like LJ to a lesser extent…dudes just name droppin groopie…..

“maybe give back to the Knicks in whatever limited role DW will allow.”

uummm I dont know if you know this but Dolan is the one who cuts the check…..and he has been giving back by the way…..pay attention…

womp womp…you was better off just reading and keepin it movin….1

blowing so much smoke can’t even see your own a*H

yo son,what would you like for zeke to do?

Oh without a doubt, Bosh is the girl. And I’m sure he has one of those black latex suits lurking somewhere in his closet…

No Way Z-bo is better than Amare offensively, Amare Doesnt Play he dunks it with authority whenever hes around the rim, No Missed layups for him and he gets the foul calls also, and we have a good young team that will grow together and be much better than, marbury and company, thats a joke

you cant take the small sample of a couple playoff games and define thep player by that..

“That someone is Me..say My name….I said basically what you said and then some first..”

LOL

I thought it was obvious since I was replying in this thread. SMH @ “say My name” and “acknowledge me”, dude relax. I didn’t even say I agree with you I just said I could see how someone (including YOU YO SON lol) could have that point of view.

Yo Son is just being a troll, stop feeding him.

Why are you talking about that old team. Talk about the new team. Why am I excited about this team? ATTITUDE. Most of the players on that old Knicks team were selfish to the core. You could see it as clear as day, from their first interviews. These new guys have already shown me that they care about team and winning. They say the right things without making it seem like they’re trying to say the right things. It seems to me that YO SON lives his life “on paper.”

get acknowledged for helping us or even trying to help us(without the shots)…..the fact people continue to throw his name into the ground after he helped us this summer whether they want to admitte it or not is sickning to me(lets see YOU get fired have your name destroyed to this day no matter how hard you try to make it right and after still be hated help the business that fired you…that man should be comended but reporters and bloggers dont want to write/tell that story but I will..HAHA)…they want to reward walsh with all the praise and thats a LIE(the info is out there continue to lie if you want to to each other…the truth will set you free… theres some who say walsh hurt our chances the most…just sayin)….the same people who say lets move forward and not look into the past are quick to bring up his past even back to the cba(like who here really gives a fucc about a cba REACHING) but cant move forward with the fact that that man help put us in 1 of the better positions we have ever been in a long…I would never ask for him to be president or vice president again GM or assistant GM why the f not……but that stay in the backround sht needs to stop because if it don’t IM GUNNIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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(all your worth who ever you are)

You’re comments make you sound like an uneducated idiot. Hop off Zeke’s d!ck and realize the last 10 years were garbage.

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