Barkley To LBJ: Put Me on Top of the List

by Tommy Dee on August 13th, 2010 at 9:31 am

Via AOL Fanhouse

“I heard about LeBron’s little tweet today that he’s remembering everybody who said anything bad about him,” Barkley said Thursday on ESPN Radio 103.3 FM in Dallas/Fort Worth. “And he said ‘everybody.’ Well, I want him to make sure that he puts my name on that (list).

“I thought that his little one-hour special was a punk move. I thought them dancing around on the stage was a punk move, and I thought he should’ve stayed in Cleveland. Him joining Dwyane Wade‘s team was very disappointing to me.”

Barkley cracks me up.

Speaking of ESPN Radio, I will be on 1040 ESPN in Tampa at 4 pm.

  • donnie_brasco

    Barkley said in a recent interview with ESPN Radio 103.3 FM in Dallas/Fort Worth that each incident was a “punk move” by James. On Thursday, he was asked if “punk” was an appropriate word to use. “I should have never used that word,” said Barkley, sounding at first as if was an apology. “It was bull (bleep). Bull (bleep) is a better word.” FanHouse.com

    he’s hilarious lmao

  • Mucha

    +1 I love Charles Barkley’s outspokenness and “I don’t give a care” attitude.

  • Knicks4life

    Interesting coming from Barkley.

    Didn’t he join a Houston team that already had Olajuwan and Drexler (via trade but same premise). Then Scottie Pippen joined Barkley and Olajuwan to try to win a title. The problem was that they were too old at that point to pull it off.

    Can’t blame LBJ for going to a super team. We would have all been overjoyed if they came to NYC together.

    The only problem I had with LBJ was that he did it in our backyard as a slap in the face to Knicks fans.

  • itzyung1

    They were all at the end of their careers , LJ, Wade, and Bosh are all in their prime.
    Even if you try to say O Barley and Pippen were in their prime well they didn’t have TWO One Hour Specials Bragging About Joining Together.

  • donnie_brasco

    don’t forget the way he did it too

  • onemoretime

    BINGO!!!! Most full of crap people don’t realize the hypocrisy in the things they say……..lol

  • bmathews77

    I agree with Barkley…Lebron’s whole dumb one hour special thing was childish and that Miami Heat introduction with him dancing on stage as well. Which basically sums up Lebron James…he’s still living like he’s in high school. Glad they made an age limit in the NBA now and I’m glad Lebron is not a Knick.

  • brookdon

    Lebron to the Heat is different.

    It’s Wades team. Bosh told lebron no when asked to go the Cavs. LBJ was both of their lapdogs lol Plus just leaving the Cavs hurt his image but he went to the worst sport town to ball with his boys.

  • brookdon

    IMO he seemed uncomfortable on the stage at that Miami Heat introduction….

  • harris

    Barkley is simply calling James out for what he is: a fraud.

  • Mucha

    “Didn’t he join a Houston team that already had Olajuwan and Drexler”

    Well Charles Barkley joined the Houston Rockets at the end of his career. He was just trying to win a championship before retiring.

    “Can’t blame LBJ for going to a super team”

    I have several problems with LBJ signing in Miami. He literally quits during the playoffs by faking an injury just to leave Cleveland and try to win a championship with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh because he can’t do it by himself… and he’s the self-proclaimed King? And did he really have to ridicule Cleveland by announcing his decision on national television? … LeBron James is a fraud.

  • Mucha

    + 1

  • yaracena

    Two thumbs up for Barkley!!

  • Mucha

    The most laughable moment was LeBron James guaranteeing 7-8 championships (and I’m not even saying that his prediction is wrong).

    B*tch you quit during the playoffs by faking an injury! I had never seen something like that before! You’ve never won anything!

  • Dylan

    Why are we still talking about LeBron? Its over lets just move on…

  • HaS

    “B*tch you quit during the playoffs by faking an injury! I had never seen something like that before! You’ve never won anything!”

    Was it ever proven that his arm wasn’t injured?

    I don’t think he was as aggressive as he could have been in the last 3 games as he could have been, but even that seems a little absurd to say when he averaged 26.8 points, 9.3 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.3 blocks and 2.2 steals while shooting above 40% against a great defensive team.

    I still think if LeBron had that same 1 hour special, announced he was joining the Knicks and he, Gallinari and Amar’e danced in Times Square on the big screen in front of 1,000,000 New Yorkers no one would be complaining.

  • http://Knicks.com/ Russ

    Did Barkley have a 1 hour “Decision” on ESPN?

  • brookdon

    In about 2 years Kobe will slow down and the Celtics will be too old. When that happens the league is theirs!

  • brookdon

    Nothings happening with the Knicks and we need something to talk about. Plus you gotta admit Barkley is funny

  • bmathews77

    Exactly! Gimme a break, they acted like they already won something at that introduction. What has Bosh done…he couldn’t even get his team into the playoffs while the eastern conference was weak and when he was in the playoffs he didn’t do anything. Then comes Lebron…uses the same moves he’s been using since he was in high school, barreling into the lane for a layup, throwing up that dumb white dust in the air, taking pictures and dancing on the sidelines. They both are frauds that need D-Wade to win.

  • Dylan

    Of course I like Barkley. One of the funniest ex-players in the NBA. Just sick of all this LeBron talk. We have probably had as many LeBron posts as Knicks posts on here since the free agency period started.

  • ScottD

    Even if LeBron came to NYC, he would have played alongside only one other superstar, not two ,which thereby threw off the balance of power in the league.
    Had Bosh gone to Miami, and LeBron come to NYC, it would have made for some real exciting competition in the East.

    If I was playing in the schoolyard, I would rather pick competitive teams rather than “stacking the deck” like a bully.

    I remember LeBron saying that it was important for a franchise like NY to be well represented in the league, and he led me to believe that he had more respect for the history and balance of the game than he apparently did.

    As for remembering who in the media dissed him, he can do whatever he wants, but he’ll never have any recourse against the many fans/admirers of his, myself included, who are now looking at him as something completely different.

    He could win seven championships, and I believe that his legacy would still be questioned.

    In a odd way, I feel that stacking a team as they did in Miami, is not really much different than atheletes using steroids for a competetive advantage , although stacking the team is legal and of course steroids are not.

    He should change his nickname from King James to the Asterisk, because I believe that one will follow his name in many conversations years from now.

    I’ll now root against him and his team for the rest of his career, and not because he didn’t choose NYC, but because of the way he handled himself as well as the “decision”

    My biggest hope is that we put together a contender here in NYC, and somehow beat Miami as we did in 1999.

    Wasn’t that game 5 feeling amazing?

  • donnie_brasco

    which part? I know your not talking about the part where he was proclaiming winning 7+ championships

  • Mucha

    Again – I’ve never been a LeBron James fan, I would’ve been happy for the Knicks organization because I want to see the Knicks win but he’s a fraud in my eyes. I’ll be more happy if the Knicks sign Melo than I would’ve been with LeBron James, I used to say before “The Decision”. Anyways LeBron James didn’t fight hard enough against the Boston Celtics – it’s OK to play poorly and lose against a great Boston Celtics team but he literally QUIT in game 5.

  • Mucha

    Yeah they’ll win at least 2 or 3 championships IMO.

  • Mucha

    *say that

  • MrFurious

    and why not. he has that luxury.

    call this what it is…LeBron is warning all those sports writers if you want access you better either start slurping or be quiet.

  • brookdon

    That’s why the day before the decision a whole bunch of people on this blog were calling him egotistical for doing it.

    I guess you didn’t watch the Heat press conference when he said “with the three of us it’s gonna be easy”.

    Also did you compare Gallinari To Wade?

    Lebron Gallo Stat is not a big three.
    Lebron Wade Bosh is.

    Recap

    Lebron asked Bosb to join him in CLE and bosh said no. You find it just fine that a player who could have went down as the greatest player joined up with two great players is just fine? He could have went down as the greatest elsewhere but he punked out and went to MIA Him going to the Knicks Bulls or Nets is much different than him going to the Heat.

  • donnie_brasco

    I for one would think that would be cheezy if he came here, I’am more for the simple things like a regular press conferance like amare did, eff the glitzy broadway show to announce your arrival/signing

  • HaS

    It’s funny that players with Championships are the first to judge and a player like Barkley who joined Olajuwon’s team with Drexler and then Pippen to chase a ring would be so outspoken.

  • upstateknicks

    We talking about Lebron cause Barkley on his a#%. Its good someone with a voice is letting lbj know the truth. Lebron is a shot of Henny with mad ice cubes….water down.I thought dude was a alpha dog turns out Skip Bayless was right about some of the stuff he was saying. I hope the knicks come to play when its on with the Heat. Not only boo them relentlessly in the Garden lets beat them in the Garden, make it a bad trip for them.

  • brookdon

    When he sat their as Bosh was talking he was staring into space, and kept playing around with his mic that’s what I noticed when I watched.

  • donnie_brasco

    again lets not forget the whole debacle he put on to make this decision, I think people are forgeting and dismissing why people are really speaking out about lebron, its not so much his decision per se but the way he did it, don’t forget that in reading into these stories

  • HaS

    I’ve always thought LeBron is a little overrated and never felt he was a leader. “King” is the name the media and sponsors gave him, it’s not a title he ever had to “earn” or live up to.

    I’ve never been of much of a LeBron fan either btw, however I wouldn’t be as happy if the team signed Melo (Of course I would be happy though) as he’s nowhere near a complete player. Neither is James, but he brings more to the table than Anthony.

    Has there been any proof that he “faked” an injury though? In fact he downplayed the “injury” more than anyone else did.

  • brookdon

    LMAO Olajuwon was a 12 year vet.

  • donnie_brasco

    *if he came here and did what he did on the stage*

  • bmathews77

    Drexler did the same thing too…Olajuwon already won a ring the previous year when he beat our Knicks. Karl Malone did it too when he went to the Lakers but they ended up losing to Detroit. It’s one thing ring chasing when your in your late 30′s as opposed to when your a young star in his 20′s trying to lead a team by yourself.

  • Knicks4life

    “He literally quits during the playoffs by faking an injury just to leave Cleveland and try to win a championship with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh because he can’t do it by himself”

    This has never made any sense to me. Why would he fake an injury and quit. If he wanted to leave he could have just left. What would have been the point of quitting and faking the injury.

    As far as the way he left Cleveland. It was shady no doubt. But we would not have a problem with it if he came to NY that way so . . .

  • Knicks4life

    You have been consistent in saying you would rather have Melo I’ll give you that.

  • HaS

    “It’s one thing ring chasing when your in your late 30′s as opposed to when your a young star in his 20′s trying to lead a team by yourself.”

    Like Garnett told LeBron, he wished he had made the decision to leave Minnesota earlier in his career.

  • ds2488

    lol. Just awesome from Barkley. It’s great to see that not only fans of teams who wanted him are calling him out. His “decision” was one of the worst, most rampant displays of egotism I have ever seen. He embarrassed the sport and his hometown fans, and is still absolutely clueless and unsympathetic.

    I am certainly glad he didn’t come here, because I was not buying his act anyway. And worst of all his decision to go to Miami out of all teams was the worst and biggest embarrassment. Any other team I could have understood, including the Nets and Clippers.

    I hope Dan Gilbert was right in his absurd prediction, and I hope the title that Lebron sold out for eludes him forever.

    Have fun in South Beach Lebron: You’re not welcome in many other places any more thanks to your “decision”.

  • Its The Kid

    I never liked Barkley and always thought he was a jerk, I cringe almost everytime he opens his mouth to speak.

    His comment shows even a broken clock is right two times a day.

  • bmathews77

    Garnett is nowhere near the potential of talent that Lebron James has. In my opinion this move was just absurd. As Micheal Jordan said, he would’ve never called up Bird and Magic to play with them. I agree with others here that had he not decided to play with his “boys” it would’ve at least given him some kind of legacy. The move shows me that Lebron isn’t the star everyone thought he was. He’s really a sidekick. So for those that like Lebron, good for you. I personally hope Lebron never wins a championship.

  • NYK4Life0307

    Numbers only blind the actions of the player in the series against Boston. Did you see the way he was dribbling the ball? the way he would drive it to the lane? the way he shot his jumpers? To me that told me the difference. Yes he did average the Lebron James numbers he should be averaging, but his body language and actions said it all, so that in the end he could say ” Well i tried, and we still couldnt win. “

  • HaS

    “That’s why the day before the decision a whole bunch of people on this blog were calling him egotistical for doing it.”

    That doesn’t mean that if he had chosen the Knicks all wouldn’t have been forgiven. There were just as many fans who were getting excited about “the Decision” because they honestly felt he was coming to NY.

    “I guess you didn’t watch the Heat press conference when he said “with the three of us it’s gonna be easy”.”

    They could be right.

    “Also did you compare Gallinari To Wade?”

    Many people here view Gallinari as a future All-Star and high profile player, maybe more along the lines of Bosh not Wade. If Gallinari becomes a top 5 player in the league then the Knicks didn’t need LeBron.

    “Lebron asked Bosb to join him in CLE and bosh said no.”

    I really don’t think that happened. Clevelandd tried to make a move on Bosh, LeBron never seemed to be recruiting anyone to come to Cleveland.

    “You find it just fine that a player who could have went down as the greatest player joined up with two great players is just fine?”

    It was his decision, he was a free agent and earned the right to go wherever he wanted to. I don’t take it personally.

    “He could have went down as the greatest elsewhere”

    Maybe, or he could have gone somewhere else and had just as much of a tough time winning and been viewed even worse for leaving his home state team for a ring and never achieve that level of success.

    “but he punked out and went to MIA”

    Or maybe he told the truth that it was all about winning and he wanted the best chance to win a championship.

    “Him going to the Knicks Bulls or Nets is much different than him going to the Heat.”

    I agree, but Knicks fans would be even more upset if he had chosen the Nets or Bulls.

  • NYK4Life0307

    The difference my friend is that Barkley joined at the end of his career. His best years were behind him when he left Phoenix. Barkley never left in the prime of his career.

  • KNICKSINCE92

    LBJ faked an injury to make himself look better because he had NO chance of beaten the celtics in a best of 7 series healthy. So by fakin; LeCon took the easy road out because he new his teammates doesn’t have the ability to compete for a championship whether it be this year or next.

  • NYK4Life0307

    Yes and this may be true, but Garnett gets more praise because he tried with Minnesota and was even given some stars to help him win a championship. Once again, was not in the prime of his career, he did it in the later parts of his career where he didnt have to worry about being the man.

  • illsun

    he would’ve if he could’ve.

    Barkley has no shame. have you seen him wh0ring himself out to do TacoBell commercials?

    You don’t think LBJ has had oppurtunities to do dumb commercials for ridiculous amounts of money?

  • NYK4Life0307

    Please HaS, you are losing these arguments. Bow down respectfully. lol.

  • HaS

    Magic, Bird and Jordan all have rings with the teams they were drafted by.

    Also, all three of them played with more than one HOF player during their careers. I take their comments with a grain of salt (although they aren’t nearly as venomous as the media or people here try to make them out to be anyway) because none of them were ever in his situation.

  • HaS

    Dan Gilbert would have made the same “prediction”/statement if he had chosen NY.

  • HaS

    Oh and Barkley would be making very similar statements if he had chosen NY too. He has said the whole time he wanted James to stay in Cleveland.

  • bmathews77

    Oh and Magic, Bird and Jordan made their teammates better. Some argue that it was Jordan that made Pippen into the all-star we know. I didn’t really see Lebron making his teammates in Cleveland better. And not for nothing, Lebron has no mental toughness or that killer instinct that true champions have. At least Wade has a killer instinct so he can ride his coat tail to win one.

  • NYK4Life0307

    One thing i will agree with you on is the players today, are not as exciting as the players of yesterday. The NBA players of yesterday to me at least, had more grit and more passion for the game than today’s players.

  • HaS

    “Please HaS, you are losing these arguments.”

    LOL

    If you say so man.

  • KNICKSINCE92

    Agreed. He averaged those numbers. But he wasn’t the vintage aggresive Lebron by attacking the basket and commanding double teams. He wasn’t trying to get his teammates involved. He just new he had no chance of beaten the Celtics in a best of 7 series so yeah he ‘quit’. His numbers are inflated that series because he scored high in game 1 2 and 3. But not games 4,5 and 6.

  • Mucha

    This is just the way I look at it.

    One play he’s handling the ball with both hands, then he shoots a free throw with the left hand, then there’s NO report whatsoever on his injury after the Cavs’ elimination… I’m very suspiscuous.

  • Mucha

    They were more than 30 years old – they were just trying to win a ring before retiring.

    Different situations.

  • HaS

    “Some argue that it was Jordan that made Pippen into the all-star we know.”

    Pippen carried that team to the playoffs without Jordan and he was an important player on other playoff teams (Portland, Houston) so, no.

    “I didn’t really see Lebron making his teammates in Cleveland better.”

    C’mon man, really? LOL stop.

    “And not for nothing, Lebron has no mental toughness or that killer instinct that true champions have.”

    I agree. I don’t think he’s learned how to be a leader yet or if he ever will.

  • Mucha

    “Lebron is a shot of Henny with mad ice cubes….water down”

    LOL

  • HaS

    “They were more than 30 years old – they were just trying to win a ring before retiring.”

    I agree with that obviously, but everyone here was happy that Garnett warned him against waiting until he was in his 30′s to try to get a ring.

  • Mucha

    Had he chosen NY during the same 1-hour special announcement, Barkley would’ve been right too.

    The way LeBron announced his decision was distasteful. I would’ve been OK with Chuck’s comments even if LeBron was a Knick.

    But at least the challenge of winning a championship in NY would’ve been more “honorable”. He could’ve been King in NYC. He can’t in Miami IMO.

  • Mucha

    Yeah I can understand why LeBron James wanted to leave… the future was cloudy in Cleveland. I have no problem with the fact that he left CLE.

    He could’ve chosen Chicago, New York, New Jersey – he would’ve had the opportunity to show that he’s truly a king – not only an overhyped (by the national media) and self-proclaimed king.

  • ds2488

    Exactly. Gilbert and Barkley’s comments likely would be the same, but at least I could respect that Lebron was willing to take on a challenge.

    NY- thats a big challenge. NJ-take the worst team in the league to a championship LAC-take on Kobe in LA and change a cursed franchise CHI-take on Jordan’s legacy.

    MIA- like simmons said in a rare moment of brilliance- it was a cry for help.

    But this doesn’t even matter when compared to the “decision”. One of the worst things I’ve ever witnessed as a sports fan. He was going to be hated regardless after that. And many people, including me, hated him long before he chose Miami.

  • ds2488

    according to Aresh Marakazi or whatever that guy’s name is, the King is not only a name given to him by the national media.

    Lebron is much more responsible for creating that image than even the media.

  • HaS

    “But at least the challenge of winning a championship in NY would’ve been more “honorable”.”

    How?

    “He could’ve been King in NYC. He can’t in Miami IMO.”

    He’s just as much of a “King” as he ever was imo lol. Why can’t he do that in Miami? He’s the best player on that team, we haven’t seen them play yet. If he turns into an Oscar Robertson/Magic Johnson hybrid he will be King again. Winning makes people forget nearly anything, but if he plays to that level and plays like the best player on that team or acts as “the straw that stirs the drink” everyone will forget everything (outside of NY and Cleveland of course).

  • johneco

    Consistently foolish.

  • johneco

    I agree with everything you say here.

  • HaS

    “The Decision” was in poor taste, but what on TV isn’t? I think people are taking it more personally than they should.

    There was a time when players’ salaries/contracts weren’t common knowledge, there was a time when team’s practices were private, there was a time when players’ private lives were… private lol. I think it’s a natural progression (not that I like it) of today’s sports. Favre, T.O., LeBron, Tiger etc. it’s all a byproduct of today’s sports “reporting’.

    LeBron is the most famous athlete in basketball and based on the ratings a lot of people tuned in to the “debacle” that was “The Decision”, so we’re all guilty. Oh well, he raised a ton of money for a charity and I’m gonna move on.

  • HaS

    BTW I like Barkley, he is a character.

  • Mucha

    How?

    LeBron James is the self-proclaimed king, I’d expect him to act accordingly. By signing with the Miami Heat he’s clearly showing that he doesn’t believe in himself enough to take on the challenge and win in Chicago, Manhattan or NJ/BK. He can be the best player on one of the greatest teams in the history of the NBA, but he’ll never be the king in my opinion – no matter how good he’s going to be. His self-fabricated image doesn’t fit his decision.

  • johneco

    Actually, I never realized I agree so thoroughly with HaS until now. I think the rest of you have a mixture of weak arguments and sour grapes.

  • HaS

    “according to Aresh Marakazi or whatever that guy’s name is, the King is not only a name given to him by the national media.”

    The media has been trumpeting “King James” before he was ever drafted, c’mon man.

    “Lebron is much more responsible for creating that image than even the media.”

    No way. Read above.

  • avvocato

    As others have said, Barkley joined them at the end of his career.

    Additionally, the big problem I had with LeBron was not that he left Cleveland (though we all know the way he did it was awful), or even that he joined to play with his friends. But LeBron is supposed to be the next Jordan. He’s the “Chosen One”. We are all supposed to be witnesses of his greatness. Well, if you the best and in your prime, you don’t join Wade and Bosh, particularly Wade, as Wade’s sidekick. He has every right to do it, but it just means we look at you differently, no matter how many championships he wins there (and I believe they will win plenty).

    And as for Barkley, Barkley played 8 years with Philly. But when he finally decided to leave, he didn’t ask to be traded to Chicago, L.A. or Detroit, etc., he went to a good Phoenix team, but not one with Hall of Famers up and down its roster.

    By the way, I hope we all appreciate Patrick Ewing even more now, as the Big Fella never had anything close to a Hall of Famer to play with, and while fans got on him, he never left until the end. He stayed the entire time and worked as hard as anybody to try and win us a championship, fighting the Pistons, Jordan, and everyone else along the way. We all love those teams, but Patrick never had the support these others guys had, and he stayed until the end (minus those lost two years at the end).

  • johneco

    Self-proclaimed? Has he really called himself King? I’ve never heard it.

  • mistachill

    People trying to make the Barkley/Houston point, please remember:

    Barkley was 33 years old when he joined Houston, Phoenix just came off a .500 season and had made a coaching change in the middle of the year. He was beginning to have nagging injuries and knew his time was short to win a ring.

    That’s a lot different than being 25 years old and the reigning league MVP, conspiring with two other players to become free agents in the same year, and joining the team of arguably the third best player in the league who already has a ring (along with another top 10-15 player) to increase your chances of getting a ring without taking on the pressure of having to carry a team to a championship.

    Basically Lebron made a decision the way most 13 year olds would. If you could get an “A” on the test by studying hard or hang out with your friends, not study, cheat on the test without getting caught and still get the “A,” most 13 year olds would opt for the easy way out…like Lebron did with this decision.

  • avvocato

    And while Barkley moved to Phoenix and then Houston, Barkley was never considered the best to ever play, or the future best to ever play. That is what LeBron was striving to achieve. His decision ruined that pursuit, at least right now in most people’s eyes.

  • bob go knicks

    was never a “slap in the face” to knicks fans.The only ones who got slapped were CAVS FANS

  • Mucha

    LeBron is not the most famous athlete in basketball.

    If you go overseas Kobe Bryant is the man – very few people care about LeBron James internationally because there’s no media brainwashing/”overhyping” of LeBron James.

    A lot people watched the Decision because many teams futures were at stake and ESPN did everything to promote it since 2008/2009 – but it doesn’t make him any more popular.

  • bob go knicks

    Oh,btw..one more time….EFF LEBRON!

  • Mucha

    lol yes he is.

  • bob go knicks

    EXCEPT ONE….ME!

  • HaS

    LeBron has been getting called “King” out of High School even before he was drafted. He never had to “earn” it or “live up to it” it’s a nickname man c’mon, it’s not an actually of royalty or the head of a monarchy.

  • Mucha

    I think both sides are responsible for this “King James” masquerade.

  • ds2488

    The King is just a nickname. That’s not what’s important. He acts like he deserves to be the King, regardless of who gave him the nickname.

    He has ALWAYS played just as big of a role, if not bigger, than the media in creating and sustaining that nickname. If you don’t think so, listen to any of his press conferences where he talks about himself like he’s the greatest thing to ever happen to humanity, or his talcum powder look at me ritual, or his picture-taking, or post-Orlando last year when he stormed off the court.

    He is a self-proclaimed king imo.

  • Mucha

    I would’ve been more jealous like “F THE BULLS” but I would’ve respected his decision.

  • HaS

    “Basically Lebron made a decision the way most 13 year olds would. If you could get an “A” on the test by studying hard or hang out with your friends, not study, cheat on the test without getting caught and still get the “A,” most 13 year olds would opt for the easy way out…like Lebron did with this decision.”

    I wouldn’t equate it to cheating. They still have to work on their games. They still have to workout in the offseason. They still have to make it work out on the floor. In other words they still have to go out and do it, the job isn’t done.

  • HaS

    “If you don’t think so, listen to any of his press conferences where he talks about himself like he’s the greatest thing to ever happen to humanity, or his talcum powder look at me ritual, or his picture-taking, or post-Orlando last year when he stormed off the court.”

    How do those things say or “proclaim” I am King James?

  • Mucha

    LeBron James talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk.

    I don’t have enough time to mention all his diva-esque attitudes – if you don’t see which episodes I’m talking about then open your eyes HaS!

  • TonyTwoTone

    Has anyone seen this:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19035/lebron-silent-off-camera-at-radio-city-event-for-team-usa
    Pretty hilarious! How long can Nike protect him? Will LeBron be away for personal reasons when the Heat play the Knicks? What a tool!

  • HaS

    I’m completely indifferent when it comes to James, like I said I’ve never really been a fan of his.

    Is he a diva? Of course, but people have been dying to be his friend or be around him since he was too young to vote. They’ve given him anything/everything he’s wanted since before he was old enough to drink and he’s one of the most famous celebrity athletes of all time.

    How is he supposed to act? I guess because I don’t expect anything from him it doesn’t bother me as much or I just dont take it as personally. Most athletes are douche bags and they aren’t 1/100th as good as LeBron James.

  • HaS

    Interestingly, the emcee at one point asked “Do we have any Knicks fans in the house?”

    The crowd was so silent, he had to ask it again, receiving a similar response.

    Wow.

    As far as him being quiet I think that’s his best bet. Make it about basketball now, especially after the “Decision” and the parade-like celebration of an introduction (press conference?) in Miami and the only way he can do that is to wait for the season to let his game speak for itself.

  • ds2488

    He demands to be treated and acts like he should be treated separately from other players. He constantly calls attention to himself in all forms and ways. He constantly talks about himself in the 3rd person like he is better than everyone else.

    Now compare that to the way Kevin Durant acts, or even Carmelo or any other superstar, and you may find an answer there. Lebron=Self-proclaimed king and media hype machine.

    Why are you defending him?

  • DatbklynKnickfandude

    Charles is right, as most of the comments made about “dat scared Miami dude”.

    HaS…you’re one of a few whose views I’ve come to respect on this blog, although I don’t agree with everything. You point out correctly that “King” and other such ridiculous monikers were GIVEN to “dat scared Miami dude” NOT that he EARNED them, so you don’t necessarily hold him accountable. I, however, do because he has NEVER DEFLECTED these titles, he NEVER said well I don’t feel like I’m …… (you fill in the blank). So, in my humble opinion his silence was consenting to all that was being said and bestowed upon him. Hence the buck stops with him. Would NYer’s have thought differently if he had chose MSG? Probably, since Greenwich is right behind our yard. To be honest I wanted him here but glad he didn’t come because as he’s shown, he wilts under pressure and playing in NY is all about pressure.

  • Old Knick

    I Love Barkley!!!!!!!!!
    He said it and I bet you lbj wont say crap to him about it. lbj is now so sensitive he doesnt want any people saying anything bad about him. Probably the real reason he didnt want to come to NYC. Far to much scrutiny regarding him and of course his mom…

  • Old Knick

    True dat he wants ya all to slurp him.

  • Old Knick

    I can still blame him the same way Jordan did. It was a punk move. Sure he has a better chance to win but, damn dude if you are the so-called best in the game you dont want to join your competitors you want to beat them. Jordan said he never ever even thought about playing with magic, bird or ewing he just wanted to destroy them. That is the attitude you expect from a superstar. Yeah of course it should be easier for him to win in miami but he had so many other choices. As a knick fan of course I wanted him in NY with Amare because I think that would have been a great nucleus and starting point but, he could have gone to the bulls as well. But Miami to be with wade on wade’s team damn that is just punk move. Talk about the easy way out!

  • Old Knick

    +2

  • HaS

    “True dat he wants ya all to slurp him.”

    And most Knick fans did it gladly for 2 years, with faux LeBron NY jerseys and M-V-P chants in the Garden etc.

  • Old Knick

    What I learned about lbj was that he does not want the pressure of being the man. So guess what he made the best choice for himself then. Going to miami, wade is the man, lbj can take it easy and just have fun. Passing to wade passing to bosh. I mean lbj will get double teamed but he will have like the least amount of pressure he will have ever had. This is what he wants and guess what??? If it goes bad he will not be the only player to blame!!! Ya got 2 others…. He loves that! Coming to NYC would have been too much. With his personality and his mother’s habits he would have had a nervous breakdown in the big apple. People here are relentless!!!!!!! Now he can get all those cuban honeys down by the beach in his spare time and when they have a bad game just hit the beach and have a margarita!

  • Old Knick

    “Drexler did the same thing too…Olajuwon already won a ring the previous year when he beat our Knicks. Karl Malone did it too when he went to the Lakers but they ended up losing to Detroit. It’s one thing ring chasing when your in your late 30′s as opposed to when your a young star in his 20′s trying to lead a team by yourself.

    That is the whole entire point! LBJ is doing this as maybe the best star in the league! I mean come on that is a ounk move. The other guys you mentioned were old and on their last leg and had tried to do it for a long time and finally just said let’s all get together and try to get a ring. In miami you have (3) three yes 3 very young guys doing this. Can you imagine Bird at 25 and Magic at 24 and jordan at 23 all getting together on the same team pick one. Chicago, Lakers or Boston????

  • Old Knick

    @HaS
    “I agree with that obviously, but everyone here was happy that Garnett warned him against waiting until he was in his 30′s to try to get a ring.”

    Well yeah but I think that was because they were all hopeful that would give him the confidance to come to da Knicks!

  • Old Knick

    @has
    “Oh and Barkley would be making very similar statements if he had chosen NY too. He has said the whole time he wanted James to stay in Cleveland.”

    Hey has I agree, and I know I selfishly wanted james in NY, but I would have respected james if he stayed in cleveland or went to the nets or the bulls or sheesh even the clippers. Miami dude is just bad man real bad. I just have to say that the only real justice is if james never ever reaches his goals of a championship and it just goes horrible in south beach. Surely he and you must know that if he did it in NY or NJ or Clippers or Cleveland or even Chicago he would have been so much more respected.

  • fauci933

    Obviously we’d all be ridiculous pumped to have LeBron here even after the tasteless debacle that was the first week of 2010 Free Agency. Because his ego may be big, but so is NY’s, so whatever. But now I don’t see why we can’t criticize him for anything without being accused of jealousy or being childish. He spurned us, now he’s our enemy. Would love him if he was on our team, no doubt about it, but he’s not, he took what is generally regarded as an easier way out, which is fine, and now we can root against him like crazy. It doesn’t mean we’re jealous or being hypocrites, it’s just being a fan.

    Also, he may not totally be a self-proclaimed King, but the media didn’t tattoo “Chosen One” across his back, and “Beast” and “Hold my Own” on his arm…just sayin…

  • fauci933

    Oh, forgot about the “Gifted Child” on his chest and the picture of his son tattooed on his forearm entitled “Prince James” Generally a Prince is the son of a King, so yea.

    Not saying the media didn’t help beat this idea into his head because they certainly did, but he is definitely embracing it with open (and tatted up) arms.

  • ChefOak

    You’re trippin, any of those moves wouldve at least been a man’s move (take on mj’s legacy in Chi, take over the upstart Nets and try to gain supremacy over the knicks in the NYC market, join up with Amare on the knicks and take on the new big two in Miami head to head, while bringing the most exciting player to the biggest stage in basketball, and restoring glory to a flagship franchise on the biggest stage, etc, etc). The Heat pick was by far the worst and most upsetting. I saw a survey the other day that was asking about how lebron’s decision affected you as a basketball fan, and by far the majortity answer at 57% was, i dont care about basketball anymore, Lebron’s decision ruined it for me.

  • Old Knick

    “And most Knick fans did it gladly for 2 years, with faux LeBron NY jerseys and M-V-P chants in the Garden etc.”

    Can’t argue with ya there HaS, but I have responded to alot of your posts here and you will be able to see my argument against the whole lbj thing.

  • HaS

    I think you can be a fan without being a jealous hypocrite, but I don’t know, that’s just me.

  • Mucha

    lol

    love it bob

    you’ve been on it since day 1

  • Bloop33

    Thank-you-Chuck

    This is simply called “telling it how it is, not how it might be”

    I can’t wait to scroll up and see who came to bat for the queen in here just for the sake of argument lol.

    Barkley is and will always be the man.

  • fauci933

    So whenever we root against LeBron and boo him at the Garden it has to be because we’re just jealous, not because he’s on a rival team that’s stacked with stars and surprisingly good supporting cast?

    I agree there’s plenty of jealousy out there, but just because he spurned us and now we root against him, doesn’t make everyone a “hypocrite”. I’m sure most will say flat out that they would have been super happy for him to be on our team, but he’s not, and now we root against him, like we did Jordan, Miller and anyone else who stepped into our house.

    Should we all just be as mature and collected as you and blame the media and that it was his right to do what he wants and he never called himself the king and yada yada yada? Because that just sounds boring. I’d rather have some fun, cheer the Knicks, and vehemently root against him, his arrogance, and the superpower he so ambitiously created down in Fairweather Fan City. But I don’t know, that’s just me.

  • mistachill

    But you get the point, he chose the easiest route possible to secure the prize. Obviously he and his teammates have to get it done in the weightroom and on the court.

    Really there’s nothing wrong with what he did. Just don’t go around calling yourself “King James” or “The Chosen One.”

    And when you board “Air Superstar” don’t knock on the door trying to enter first class with Russell, Bird, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Hakeem, and Jordan (heck, Isiah may even be in there). Go sit in coach with Garnett, Worthy and Pippen.

  • Old Knick

    I can still blame lbj the same way Jordan did. It was a punk move. Sure he has a better chance to win but, damn dude if you are the so-called best in the game you dont want to join your competitors you want to beat them. Jordan said he never ever even thought about playing with magic, bird or ewing he just wanted to destroy them. That is the attitude you expect from a superstar. Yeah of course it should be easier for him to win in miami but he had so many other choices. As a knick fan of course I wanted him in NY with Amare because I think that would have been a great nucleus and starting point but, he could have gone to the bulls as well. But Miami to be with wade on wade’s team damn that is just punk move. Talk about the easy way out!

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    most of yall need to CHILL cuz u all were on LEBRON’S D**k

  • fauci933

    Obviously because we wanted him here. He’s not here, we (and everyone else) will now root against him. He’s on a rival team, one made up of superstars. Some people need to stop acting holier than thou, as if they’re above taking shots at LeBron. Guess what, it’s not hypocritical…just because we wanted him too and lost, doesnt void our rights to root against him and heckle him and so on and so forth now that he’s on a new team, one that is in our own conference.

  • johneco

    Look, he’s the best player in the NBA, period. And he’s been the most talked about since he was 12.

    He’s an egomaniac, no doubt.

    But that’s not at all unusual in the NBA. What, you think Jordan and Kobe are not egomaniacal assholes? To me Lebron seems mellower and nicer than them. Anyway, who cares, I’m not gonna date the guy.

  • Old Knick

    “Drexler did the same thing too…Olajuwon already won a ring the previous year when he beat our Knicks. Karl Malone did it too when he went to the Lakers but they ended up losing to Detroit. It’s one thing ring chasing when your in your late 30′s as opposed to when your a young star in his 20′s trying to lead a team by yourself.

    That is the whole entire point! LBJ is doing this as maybe the best star in the league! I mean come on that is a ounk move. The other guys you mentioned were old and on their last leg and had tried to do it for a long time and finally just said let’s all get together and try to get a ring. In miami you have (3) three yes 3 very young guys doing this. Can you imagine Bird at 25 and Magic at 24 and jordan at 23 all getting together on the same team pick one. Chicago, Lakers or Boston????

  • Bloop33

    “I think you can be a fan without being a jealous hypocrite, but I don’t know, that’s just me.”

    You got that pompous douche thing down HaS…just like Lebron.

    …and you get a Bloop for that.

  • yuhdunknow2g

    ya knick fans of been happy if they were all here. the difference is tho, that it wouldnt be lbj joining wade’s team as his sidekick like a lil b!tch. they both would be leaving their teams to be equals on another team. if wade joined lbj in cleveland, that would be a punk move too.

    me personally, even before this summer, i didnt want them to join together on any team, not even here..because it throws off the balance of power in the league. its much more interesting to watch when teams are more equally matched. instead of how its been the past couple yrs where it was pretty much just the lakers/celtics/cavs…and dats it.

  • Old Knick

    What I learned about lbj was that he does not want the pressure of being the man. So guess what he made the best choice for himself then. Going to miami, wade is the man, lbj can take it easy and just have fun. Passing to wade passing to bosh. I mean lbj will get double teamed but he will have like the least amount of pressure he will have ever had. This is what he wants and guess what??? If it goes bad he will not be the only player to blame!!! Ya got 2 others…. He loves that! Coming to NYC would have been too much. With his personality and his mother’s habits he would have had a nervous breakdown in the big apple. People here are relentless!!!!!!! Now he can get all those cuban honeys down by the beach in his spare time and when they have a bad game just hit the beach and have a margarita!

  • Old Knick

    Thomas told me that privately before that 2007 Draft, not after. He understood dominant big centers come along once in a while. But Thomas countered that a 6-11 player who can do what Durant can may never come around. (Durant is actually 6-10, a source said, though he’s listed at 6-9).

    David Lee at No. 30, Nate Robinson at No. 23, Wilson Chandler at No. 23, Trevor Ariza at No. 43 … even the Channing Frye pick (No. 8) is turning out sound. I’ll never knock Isiah for his drafts, but I will say the Thomas segment on MSG Network’s “Knicks Live” last night was an embarrassment and insult to their diehard fans.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/thomas_was_right_about_durant_tLh3eU3bvF9dT82JAioshL

  • HaS

    “So whenever we root against LeBron and boo him at the Garden it has to be because we’re just jealous, not because he’s on a rival team”

    He was on a rival team when people were cheering M-V-P and concocting faux LeBron #23 jerseys too though.

    “I’d rather have some fun, cheer the Knicks, and vehemently root against him”

    I always did.

  • fauci933

    “He was on a rival team when people were cheering M-V-P and concocting faux LeBron #23 jerseys too though.”

    Yea, but he was on the team that drafted him and it was being touted for 2 years that NY had a shot at landing LeBron…it’s a very different situation now. I’m just saying that just because we “courted” him so-to-speak and lost out on him, doesn’t void our right to heckle, mock, and root against him now. It doesn’t mean that we’re all jealous, it just means that he’s made his choice, and we know where he wants to be and it’s not NY, so we’re going to go at him.

  • mistachill

    Drexler is another bad example of ring chasing by LBJ apologist. Clyde was 32 years old and playing on a team making a transition (into eventually becoming the “Jailblazers”) and playing for the oppressive P.J. Carlesimo after many years with the popular players coach Rich Adelmen.

    He was also returning to his hometown and the Rockets starting lineup when he arrived was: Elie, Chilcutt, Hakeem, Breaux, and Kenny Smith with Cassell and Horry off the bench (I think Maxwell got kicked off the squad).

    No way comparable to what Lebron did.