Daily News: No Guarantee Walsh Will come Back After This Year

Doesn’t matter to me if DW comes back. He didn’t get the job done (2 Max FA ) with 2 years of watching horrible basketball. As long as Isiah doesn’t come back I’m happy with or without DW.

Fire yourself Dolan.

I agree with that.

I also don’t think the team is very intelligently thought out. There’s zero rebounding for instance.

If I’m Donnie Walsh there is no way I would come back to work for this imbecile James Dolan. I think Walsh will surely retire. If he does I give him a B+ for the position the Knicks are in now. It makes this job much easier for the new President of the Knicks to take over

not sure what seriously qualified candidate with career aspirations would come to MSG to be poisoned by Dolan’s stink.

Is Chris Mullen seriously qualified?

we’ll end up with Allan Houston and Zeke running the show.

only upside is we’ll get a new coach.

If Donnie did not sacrifice those two years, the Knicks would still have Jamal Crawford and Zack Randolph on the team. David Lee and Zach would be on the same team and that my friend is not a good thing. We would still be mediocre and more like the Atlanta Hawks. I would sacrifice the 2 years of mediocre play for a chance to have a great team in the future. What Donnie has done is give us a superstar to build around. You can continue to build around players like David Lee, Jamal Crawford and Zach if you want but I’m looking forward to a great team in the future. We now have the money for the first time in over 10 YEARS to make that a possibility.

Unfortunately, I think the writing is on the wall for Walsh. He will most likely not be back imo. With everything that’s been going on, plus the fact that Isiah seemingly has succesfully convinced Dolan that Walsh can’t pull in the big name free agents and the fact that Dolan won’t let him hire a gm, it’s not looking too good.

It’s sad because I think Walsh has done a pretty darn good job, but he probably won’t get much credit for it after he’s gone. As long as Isiah doesn’t swoop in to take credit, it’s all good though.

We’re finally on the right track thanks to Donnie and his plan and as long as the next gm isn’t completely incompetent, I think the stage has been set well for their success.

Walsh is in an almost no win situation now. These 2 years were always about LBJ or Mello. Part 1 failed, and even if part 2 still succeeds (which is less & less likely with more & more disfunction at the top) , Dolan will somehow make it look like IT was responsible.

So, the only way Walsh can maybe still look good is if he pulls off a big trade-which is exactly what the knicks don’t need.

Tabloids will always rule New York. Dolan will never gain the respect of the media. Walsh has cleared the decks, as he promised, and now has a playoff team and flexibility to build a championship team. If the team keeps improving and Dolan does not do anything outrageous, Walsh will probably stay on. He certainly has enough executives around him to run the Knicks organization. Don’t see hiring a GM as a real issue.

I can’t blame Donnie for anything he’s done except for last year’s draft. There were so many players that could have really helped the knicks and he came away with jordan hill. I know he wasnt there, but man, every time I see Stephen Curry play, a part of me dies. That guy would have been so good for us. If Donnie figures out how to trade up for him I think everything is different. I think the team would have been significantly better last year, and maybe we have a better case to make to free agents. And even if he didn’t, we would have had two blue chip prospects in Curry and Gallinari that fit the system perfectly and would have been home grown talents. I’m not saying we’re screwed now, we could be pretty good, but I like that team a lot better than this one.

Also, someone tell me why we didnt trade for Tyson Chandler. Guy looks like he’s back, and it took nothing for Dallas to get him.

Walsh will likely declare victory after this year and retire because of “health reasons”..

leaving us with the dynamic duo of Allan Houston and Guitar Jimmy to run the show .. with Isiah firmly planted on Jimmy’s ball sack.

he cant shoot threes so he’s not a “fit” for the “system”

donnie will not be back,ZEKE WILL.

DW isn’t going nowhere KNUCKLEHEADS! He did an outstanding job cleaning house and grabbing STAT, which was the KEY! The KEY is that other quality players are willing to come to NY to play alongside of him. Plus, the new addition he added from GS and selecting Mr. Fields makes DW a GENIUS!

We were terrible having a bad roster, which many of you won’t argue that FACT! So DW had to sacrifice 2 years for a fresh start and you think he’s going to walk away after ALL he has done, then you ARE a KNUCKLEHEAD! DW don’t care what Dolan & ignorant NYers (negative posters on this blog) say about how he’s handling his business! Why? Because real managers knows that MANAGING IS A PROCESS that takes time!

Bad managers (Dolan & Zeke) makes mistakes when they rush into things without having a plan!

So I commend DW for trying to cleanup the mess that Bush left behind! Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Atlanta Hawks? That’s setting the bar too high. Jamal/Zack is more like a 25 win team.

The only way to rebuild is to break it down and start over. Lebron or no Lebron.

lol, that’s worse case scenario.

I hope your right about Donnie. I think he deserves to go out on good terms, not to be put through the same ringer that guys like Larry Brown, Isiah, and Don Cheney had to go through.

You’re right. 8th seed at best

I agree, the guy deserves to go out standing tall, but that -for now- is entirely up to the coach and the team (later on, in the FA, to whoever they sign). Houston, a guy everyone here respects, isn’t ready to be a GM (I personally think he’s unknowingly Dolan’s lapdog, but I’m speculating), and a guy like Pritchard would be a perfect fit, Warkenstein could do a good job as well.
I, for now, choose to believe that Walsh is at “98% going to 100″, but his activity throughout this season will prove his words right or wrong. I, however, tihnk the guy shouldn’t give up and push for a 1 or 2 year to turn this team into a serious contender, if that indeed can be done from here until 2012.
Walsh came in to do a job, he should see it through, and shoud be man enough to face Dolan and ask for a short extension.

Then how do you explain Jeffries getting 30+ minutes a night? That guy couldn’t even make a layup. Or Earl Barron averaging 33 min/game over the last 7? Jake Voskuhl avg 24.3 min for the ’04 Suns. Kurt Thomas avg 26.6 min for the ’06 Suns and 18+ in ’07. Shaq avg 28.7 min. Pat Burke, Stephen Hunter, Brian Skinner got rotation minutes on those teams.

You’re so biased, you blatantly ignore facts. Your posts are basically regurgitating popular opinion.

Not exactly insightful — it’s become repetitive and stale. Bring something to the table instead of this constant barrage of “Dantoni sucks”. Fin.

Then how do you explain Jeffries getting 30+ minutes a night

they wanted to boost his value to trade him.

Earl Barron? Really?

The “Coach” clearly quit in PHX because he had Shaq forced on him.

It is what it is. If you dont think this guy loves shooters over defense you just arent watching with a clear eye

have to spoke to players personally an they said they want to play for the knicks?

u people are all tools,LMAO..

donnie did an alrite job,thats the bottom line.
he gets a c-

it’s time for him to bounce.

of course he didnt.. Amar’e even had to have a private meeting with the “Coach to “Clear the air” before he committed to NY..

And that was with a guaranteed 100 mil on the table.

Waslhie was sold a bag of goods that _’Antoni could bring his superstar Olympic roster to NY and he failed in the recruiting process..

Which is why Dolan has turned to his “old pal” Zeke.

I cant wait til this carpet bagger moves onto his next grift and we get a real coach in here.

Lilsmalls,

You are definitely bias since your boy Zeke got the AX, so stop hatin!

No-ledge,

That’s cold for wanting DW to bounce after having to cleanup the mess! The guy deserves a chance for the changes he has done to materialize. What if NY gets MELO? You probably be suckin DW nutsack by changing your tune. It’s almost like people expecting Obama to make miracle changes after Bush took 8 years to screwup the country! We all know that you, Lilsmalls and HaS are members of the Tea-Party wrecking crew. Its all good:>)

“Dolan feels it is unnecessary to hire another executive when Walsh already has two former NBA GMs, Glen Grunwald and John Gabriel, working under him.”

That actually makes sense!

“Daily News: No Guarantee Walsh Will come Back After This Year”

nor should there be….in all fairness and in reality which hardly ever, mostly never takes place on this site nor in the media…. but in all actuality his azz should have been fired if not after this summer then after this up coming season…playoffs or bust……

(even if he does make the playoffs his position still isn’t and shouldn’t be safe…..FIU season ends in april…AAHAHAHhahahAhahahaAHahahahahahah..)

Good points. But you will never convince the Haters. It amazes me, that certain fans put the blame on D’Antoni when it is so clear there a two year plan in place to maximize cap space.

ridiculous upside is right though, I agree with the idea that Mike D’Antoni wants to play as much shooters as possible but he doesn’t exlusively play shooters at the expense of defensive efficiency.

Steven Hunter – who couldn’t do anything well on the court aside from being a big body – played a significant amount of minutes against the San Antonio Spurs in Conference Finals 4 or 5 years ago. I understand that your original comment was sarcastic but Mike D’Antoni is not the antichrist.

Btw I tend to think Mark Jackson wouldn’t be a bad coach, even though I didn’t like him as an option two years ago.

and once again who is to say that no other team was going to offer Amare a max contract….keep reading these swayed lies(such simple minded simplistic individuals…I see right threw YOU‘z)….clearly a sit down meeting before his signing shows that the coach isn’t the reason for him signing here…but all WE have heard prior was that the antoni was suppose to atract max players when in fact that was NEVER the case….YOU were told that your coach beefs with the Knicks wouldn’t be a determent because the players he was coaching were no good now all of a sudden the 1 max we got still needed to clear the air over pass transgressions….you see how easy stories get spun…..1 minute the coach can attract players…next minute it’s not the coach….then it’s brokers behind the seen like WWWest that make moves..then YOU(I already knew) Isiah was a mover and shaker and all of a sudden no it’s just the money….ahahahahah…so full of ISH….

you see the mayhem that was cause once Isiah was brought from behind the seen into the front even though he without a doubt HELPED(DEAL WITH IT!!!!!)but yet the disgusting machine better known as the media(ALL included) made it out to be a horrible idea to have him involved in any capacity telling lie after lie fabrication after fabrication(especially on this site will explain later)….why in Amare right mind would he say yea Isiah played a big part in me coming here…he would go from the most beloved to Stephon Marbury(who ironically both came from the suns brought to you in part by ISIAH THOMAS)…..WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that’s why, it had nothing to do with his contract or anything.

Let’s bash the coach for roster moves he has nothing to do with!

Awesome…here it comes…

pay attention boy.. im no Zeke fan.

I understand that your original comment was sarcastic

that’s cause you are SMART Mucha!!

but Mike D’Antoni is not the antichrist.

LOL.. maybe.. maybe not .. we dont really know.

I’d give Marc Jackson a shot in a second.

Some here dont get it that it’s NOT about the Wins and Losses (and more losses) over the past two years..you do though.

Despite the opposing POVs between “haters” and “followers”, there are things about the coach that are pretty certain, not only by what he’s shown here, but throughout his career: Offense is his strong suit and knows very little about defense (I wouldn’t say he completely disregards it). If he has good two way players (Phoenix) he’ll use them (Johnson, Marion, Barbossa, etc) as long as they can hit the 3 ball, the basis of his system along the P&R. He has trouble in late game calls; his short man rotationt tend to be the downside if he goes deep into a season; and if he doesn’t like a player from the start it’s become a common tendency for him to make things harder on said player.
We all want this team to have a good season, which means we all want this coach to step up, but there are certain things that he’s proven not only here, but in Phoenix as well. It goes beyond hating or liking the guy.

I think you’re right, Son. Walsh’s definitely on the line this season as well as the coach, but if the season goes well and later on we learn that Melo’s gonna chase the FA, I wouldn’t mind giving DW the chance to go after him. After all, he knows he can’t fail twice in a FA, and if said thing happens, he should be man enough to resign after failing, twice.

Yea you and I have reached the point where we have to agree to disagree – even though my opinion’s not much different from yours (I think I’m more “intrigued” to see what he can do with a stable roster than you are). I’m far from being a Mike D’Antoni fan and if he can’t get the job done then Mark Jackson is an interesting option. He reminds me of Doc Rivers.

Wow one of the best posts that I’ve ever read Silentjay… I couldn’t have said it better

good post SilentJay. I pretty much agree.

I think generally speaking Dantoni cares more for defense then he is given credit for, but I agree that obviously offense is his major concern.

The coach wasn’t hired to recruit free agents. It was a secondary benefit of hiring him. The coach was hired because presumably he was a good coach. Now that may have been a major mistake, but I find it highly redundant and unneccesary to criticize Dantoni for not bringing Lebron and Wade and whoever else in.

The truth/fact was that Lebron was presented with a situation he felt he couldn’t turn down in Miami. No one thought that would happen, where 3 maxes could be on the same team. Maybe we could have done that if it wasn’t for a certain franchise center of the past taking up a boatload of capspace.

I just don’t think it’s worth it to criticize Dantoni because Lebron went elsewhere. He’s a coach or “coach” to some of you lol, not a recruiter.

coaches wear many hats ..wasn’t it already pointed out that he was a gm for the suns as well..hahaha(and all coaches took part in the free agent process…would be nice if he brought something from the suns stint besides his useless system to NY such as those 50+win seasons or his managerial skills..haha…something..geesh)..if he was able to help bring in free agents it would have been spun that it was worth the wait in regards to sticking with antoni in neglecting the horrible coaching job he has done thus far…it would have been recited redundantly by the walsh apologist if that was emphatically the case….but it was not….antoni has caused more harm then good to walsh and the Knicks….WORD!

100% co sign Jay./

Walsh didn’t do anything different then Isiah did he overpaid for a injury prone star hoping he becomes a superstar and traded for young players who are also injury prone who come from a worse organization that lack knowledge on how to win who have not been exploited as much but is dressed up by the ny media like we got some real young studs while telling walsh to leave before the REAL truth comes out….walsh assembled a 7th seed at best and threw away a couple of seasons, many lottery picks to do so but meanwhile had enough money for 2 max players and a player left over with a overall horrible drafting record to add to his well below average term(failed)..but yet he’s the victim…BS…WAKE UP nobody is running to MSG to play in a Knick uniform…no matter how much money under or over the cap no matter the coach the off the court endorsements etc.. or situation…. you have to take risks…If you haven’t learned from this summer/decade then you’re a fool…Isiah essentially put together a 7th seed at least a 8th seed while being a hundred plus million OVER the cap with NO prior assets(if you hate on Isiah but believe in antoni then it’s true..cant have it both ways…Walsh essentially put together a 7th seed at least a 8th seed while being a million UNDER the cap with prior assets…now you tell me who’z the better GM and who actually did a horrible job and deserves to be banned from MSG…who do you really think your lying too…

If Donnie feels he needs more minds in the organization he should be able to hire them

Gabriel is Director of Pro Scouting. Is anyone suggesting we should be without a Director of Pro Scouting?

From outward appearances DW is uncomfortable handing the reins over to either Gabriel or Grunwald..

I think ultimately it is Allan Houston’s job to lose.. sad as that may sound.

just remember that not more than a few months agin we were sold the bag of goods that super star players would be lining up to play for the “coach”.

3 year plan to sell the cap…the only thing he had to sell(thanks to his horrible drafting) and shot a air ball..while dumping salary and throwing away lottery picks(and 2seasons)…..ahahaha……child please…..

that’s called doube talk…..

double’

“Walsh didn’t do anything different then Isiah did he overpaid for a injury prone star hoping he becomes a superstar”

I don’t usually reply to your comments but this argument is baseless. If you’re trying to compare Amar’e Stoudemire (5x All-Star, 1x All-NBA 1st team and 3x All-NBA 2nd team) to Zach Randolph (a career loser with a questionable attitude in Portland) and Jamal Crawford (SIXTH man of the year) then you’re absolutely clueless.

“walsh assembled a 7th seed at best and threw away a couple of seasons, many lottery picks to do so but meanwhile had enough money for 2 max players and a player left over with a overall horrible drafting record to add to his well below average term(failed)..but yet he’s the victim…”

Donnie Walsh f*cked up last year by passing on Brandon Jennings but Danilo Gallinari’s the best lottery pick the Knicks’ve drafted since Patrick Ewing. And Anthony Randolph is more promising than any young player Isiah Thomas drafted during his tenure at MSG.

You kookoo

Yes, but thats not the reason he was hired. If we wanted him to recruit, we would have hired him as a consultant, not a coach.

We wanted him to coach first and foremost. Secondarily his system and connection with franchise players was put out there as a positive for his hiring.

And even with that, just because Lebron didn’t come here it doesn’t mean that any of that stuff wasn’t true. Lebron had an opportunity that he couldn’t say no to(in his opinion obviously). It’s not like he didn’t come here because of Dantoni.

that’s pretty much what I just said but of course my comment is being moderated for some reason.

Tommy, this moderation thing is pretty annoying, I don’t even know what I could have possibly said that would warrant moderation.

His comment was wrong for so many reasons. We are under the cap now for one thing, which is a world of difference lol.

And Isiah payed twice as much money and never assembled a team that got into the playoffs for 5 years after that first year. Argument is completely baseless.

Last I checked Amar’e isn’t overweight with heart problems and no work ethic.

Moderation should apply to posts that are more or less totally illegible to keep my eyes from bleeding.

It’s not like he didn’t come here because of Dantoni.

we dont know that for sure.

we do know that Lebron said a number of times that a coach with a solid defensive strategy was important to him (in so many words)

I don’t usually reply to your comments ..

another SMART call..

Yup

lol. If only we were all as smart as Mucha.

I just can’t help myself sometimes.

No Shots Yo Son. I really enjoy reading your posts.

lol

Do you mean decoding his posts?

Come on. You actually think Lebron didn’t come here because of Dantoni?

I can agree that maybe his connection to the stars was exaggerated, and I also know about Lebron’s several comments about defense.

However, on the flip side Lebron himself was extremely critical of Mike Brown’s defensive focused and slowpaced isolation system, and it was reported several times Lebron wanted a more up-tempo and innovative system to run. Lebron also praised Dantoni for being an offensive genius, just like many other guys on the olympics team.

Basically, I’m saying there is no way Dantoni was the reason Lebron didn’t come, and I don’t think you truly believe that either.

lol

lol. On fire today Fauci.

While I have trouble comprehending them sometimes, I think Yo Son presents interesting, shall we say “unique” points of view in his posts.

Keyword being “sometimes” because they usually stray off into some sort of pro-Isiah, conspiracy theory tangent with lots of ellipses and erratic laughing. Seriously though he does bring up valid points on occasion, they just get lost in a sea of caps lock and random punctuation.

I apologize if I’m overly analytical, but I was a Communications and Rhetoric major in college. The way you say or present something can often be just as influential as the content within. I like to understand someone’s argument before I rebut generally, and it’s often tough with some posts on here.

but Mike D’Antoni is not the antichrist.

LOL.. maybe.. maybe not .. we dont really know.

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Lmao. It’s absolutely true. We must leave open the very real possibility that MD could summon the 4 horseman and bring upon the apocalypse.

“The coach wasn’t hired to recruit free agents.”

You really believe that? I thought it went part and parcel with his hiring. It was the sole reason I gave him an opportunity to prove me wrong in the first place.

Now I just can’t wait until he’s out of here.

“I can agree that maybe his connection to the stars was exaggerated”

Ya think?

The only star we got was one of his former players, who needed a meeting to “clear the air” before accepting a max 5 year contract.

Some “connection” huh?

Players coach? You _on Nelson was once described as a player’s coach? Players used to rave about playing for him too.

You know _on Nelson*

“I don’t usually reply to your comments but this argument is baseless”

so kicc roccs…but since your here welcome….my premise is fact..and I would love to see the day AR who walsh did not draft by the way but was basically given away because he was unwanted have more of a impact then Ariza did in the Lakers NBA Championship playoff run….matter fact gallo will probably never have the same impact that Ariza did during that run for that matter and p.s.Ariza was a second round pick by Isiah and Isiah scouted gallo something walsh scouts couldn‘t get right once Isiah left……ahahahah….deuces …. And p.s. real talk frye rookie season was more impressive then gallo first and second season to be truthful……kicc roccs……

For those who want it Stevenson see the below link…

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68702/20100815/stephenson_charged_with_pushing_girlfriend_down_flight_of_stairs/

This is why is better to make a safe pick…that kid has anger problems. I dont think he will be an NBA player for long….to many mistakes.. at some point waiting for maturation is not good enough!

Donnie and Dan dont win , its going to be another changing of the guards

IF DW gets the inkling that Dolan will undermine a lot of moves he wants to make in signing a GM or trades , I’d quit and tell the world why.

Dolan needs a first hand embarrassing assessment given by one of the most respected men in the game. No one ever goes on record saying boo about him. I’m sure its in the contract .Gag order +

As far as Mike D , all he needs is to hire a defensive specialist.

If I’m DW , i offer what I can for Melo , CP3 or Parker by trade deadline when all three players should be pretty clear in the direction their current teams are going . Denver wont make the mistake both Toronto and Cleveland made .

As for Isiah……..

whip out all the quotes from a few years ago. Sexual harassment , all the players quotes…. That should be enough

if gets his old job back , ALL KNICK season tkt holders should just say enough . “We wont pay if he is the gm”

i like this years overhaul. LBJ never intended to come here ( sorry Tommy ….I disagree with what has been written)

Wade always said Miami is where he wanted to be

Bosh…who cares.

Looking forward to a great season

you guys can collectively make fun of me it’s ok…still got love for ALL my fellow Knicks fans..because I’m a great guy….you can clown me all you want…but what I have said sense I’ve been here has been more on target than anybody including posters/bloggers/and media included….my premise have been as close to flawless as humanly possible(with limited sources)….I don’t give popular opinion…I give truth…I give facts…I speak from the heart because this is the sport and most importantly the Team that I love THE NEW YORK KNICKS…..it’s hard for most to deal…It’s hard for most to digest…it’s hard for most to stomach I get that…I know..others feel me..while most dont.. all good…I set back and let people destroy Isiah’z name spitefully I laugh because I know what it is and I pretty much no the outcome….you asked to keep his name off the site and say I make things up to start arguments…then what do you know…ahahahahaha….Isiah name appears EVERYWHERE……I can go on and on with the I told you so…but why bother..I share my knowledge with love to put you on..but you guys will turn around and make fun of my grammar (succer move… like I really care) and then reiterate my arguments later like you don’t know where you got it from..AHAHAHAAHHAHAahhahah……1yaselves….

no comments on my flawless premise like I thought….sucker move..

“p.s.Ariza was a second round pick by Isiah”

Well ps I didn’t talk about IT’s 2nd round picks – I said that DW’s lottery picks record is better than IT’s.

“And p.s. real talk frye rookie season was more impressive then gallo first and second season to be truthful”

Gallinari’s sophomore season was more impressive than Channing Frye’s entire career (please don’t mention his 3-point shooting contest in the playoffs because he didn’t have to work much to get some open looks).

“Isiah scouted gallo something walsh scouts couldn‘t get right once Isiah left”

Everybody knew Danilo Gallinari, a couple of scouts believed that he was the best player in the draft and he was widely considered a top 10 pick. Isiah Thomas didn’t “discover” Gallinari lol. By the way Isiah Thomas would’ve picked Eric Gordon – every newspaper said it after EG smashed the Knicks when Gallinari was injuried.

once again no comments on my flawless premise like I thought….anytime there’s a ally way same square bearz and then some come out and full force….but when I speak to something they have absolutely no arguments for they go mute(or talk about my grammar)……typical….

not the point….plus his eye is just as dangerous maybe even knees too….strictly talking basketball wise….and let’s see his GREAT work ethic show on defense and rebounding please….hahaha…who these dudez think they talking too……

I’m not going player for player just the whole retrospect…prime example his willingness to over pay for jj as well..whether he signed him or not…his willingness to destroy his plan by signing kidd,hill, or sessions…..all good though….but I guess you sleep better at night as other Knicks fan do because Allan Houston had a great work ethic so that’s makes everything a o k right…ahahaha…unbelievable….

dude,i guess u don’t read this blog,every knows i’m not no CARMELA FAN,if donnie is around an could get d-will or durant i’ll give him props,even cp3

a second round pick having more of a impact during the time of year were the most intensive competitive basketball is played on any place on Earth to help a team accomplish what some of the greatest and most skilled couldn’t do and that’s win a NBA Championship which was done by a second rounder which is a even more remarkable find compared to one of walsh’s biggest offseason trading moves are acquisitions(ar..ahahaha) and prize possession lottery pick(gallo..HAHA) in retrospect is more of an indictment on walsh and puts Isiah on a even higher pedestal…… when comparing the 2..no matter how you try to spin it…..dudes are clowns on here man….

to magnify it even more he did it(Ariza) on arguably the biggest stage or 1 of the biggest 2 be a homer for a second(staple center) playing next to Kobe(biggest athlete of this generation and most hated teammate just to magnify the pressure even more)in a laker uniform at that…..AHAHAHAHAHAHHA…while Kareem, Magic. West etc etc etc etc etc.. were watching above from there luxury sweets…yo you dudes cant man up and take a L and give props afterwards especially to ME…waste of time..all good though…xoxoxoxox..

no props on the truth told by Me…..why cuz they cant stand it….ahahahahahaha…..

Well didn’t HE end up trading this fantastic 2nd round pick?

Clowns > delusional Isiah Thomas apologists regardless

You and Biggie hate the coach to an extraordinary degree.

I’m not even going to argue whether he’s a good coach or not, but he was hired to coach the team. I’m not saying his connection wasn’t part of it, but he was hired first and foremost to coach the team

Would you disagree with that HaS?

come on man, that’s exactly what I was saying was ridiculous.

The fact that 3 of the stars chose to team up together says nothing about the “connection” between Dantoni and those guys.

They had a chance to team up, they took it.

so wait…

“my premise have been as close to flawless as humanly possible(with limited sources)….I don’t give popular opinion…I give truth…I give facts…I speak from the heart ”

You don’t find that remotely contradictory. Of course not…

You clearly don’t love the Knicks like you say you do man, no shots. All you do is come on here and rave about Isiah and Wilson and Nate and even Curry, and hate on Walsh, Dantoni, and especially Gallo. You’re just an Isiah apologist posing as a Knicks fan who wants to prove everyone wrong for some unforeseen slight that you think happened against Isiah.

Again, sorry man, I just speak facts and I also speak from the heart, but it’s really just facts.

Lil thornbush,

Man there were only a few max players available being Wade, and LBJ choose to play together, and that’s suppose to be DW fault! Get real! Two years of horrible ball is what had to happen to get rid of bad ballplayers & bad contracts to get back under the cap! We can see that you can’t manage sh*t! You must be a Tea party supporter blaming Obama for something the past regime mess up for years and you expect a miracle. Get a clue! DW not only got under the cap, he was able to get younger quality ballplayers leaving room for another max player next year, and he supposedly suck! Wow! You have no credibility except being an idiot hater with no common sense. I still can’t believe DW was able to pull away AR from GS. AR would have been this year first round draft pick and you havev a nerve to be TRIPPIN! And if Mr. Fields happens to develop into a quality ballplayer, which I believe he has the tools to become successful, then you are truly FULL of SH*T!

True!

I agree he was hired to coach the team, uh… he was hired as a coach. He was the biggest name available.

Would you agree that a major selling point was that he had a great connection with the stars players entering free agency in 2010?

That’s all I’m saying.

I never particularly liked him as a “coach”, but seeing his handiwork up close has made me even less of a fan.

I had an open mind when he was hired.. Thought he would have a Riley like Epiphany regarding modifying his style of play..

for all the reasons i’ve outlined before Im done wiht this guy.. and NOT ONE reason has to do with the win-loss record during the past two years.

should we go back and count the times that his “connection in Beijing” was brought up as a reason to “be patient”

if thats all you think I talk about here ..then thats a flat out lie(typical)….thats..false..but it’s all good….

Don’t remember who came up with it, but kudos for my favorite new nickname for Dolan. “Jimmy guitar”.

So here we go again. I swear, you guys sound like old ladies rehashing the same old stories over and over.

OK. you don’t like the coach! it’s all his fault. whatever!

Don’t worry, we’re goin’ to find out soon enough what he is made of, 20-30 games into the season and we’ll know if he deserves his reputation. but all of the haters are going to look pretty foolish if the knicks get a winning record out of the gate.

Remember now, you’ve got to adjust for schedule. road vs home, and Quality of opposition. So looking at this schedule, if they come out in December with a winning record I would say they are well on their way to a 45-50 W season at least.

As for comparing DW’s job to Zeke’s, well I almost lost a lung laughing on that one. But apparently Jimmy guitar seems determined to shove Zeke down our throat regardless. Now that’s what I call rewarding loyalty!

We are the NY knicks. never a dull moment, The show must go on even if it is a travesty! Move aside ESPN, here we come.

I agree that the fact that he had a great connection with the stars was A Selling point, but it wasn’t the selling point.

As you said in your post, and as I said right before that, he’s a coach, not a consultant.

If you want to criticize him for being a poor coach, that’s all good. I’ve had many of the same criticisms over the past couple of years.

I just think it’s a little ridiculous to be like well, he didn’t get us Lebron, so he’s a failure. He might be a failure because he’s a bad coach, but not for not being a good recruiter so to speak, which hasn’t even been proven imo.

I don’t really remember it this way.

I remember being told to be patient because he was a good coach who needed coachable players that could play in his system. I don’t remember him or Walsh ever saying that these past years didn’t matter because he(dantoni) was just there to recruit free agents.

sorry man, but I think your response is typical.

It’s Guitar Jimmy.

16 of the first 25 SHOULD be winnable if this team has payoff aspirations.

The first 5 games will be tough.

I’ll really judge the team’s record after 10 games.

Right.

lets see antoni go 6-3(should have been at least 7-2 should have beaten the bucks at home) to start the season with this roster..hahahaha….if he does then he is the real deal(but wont happen)..to think he did that(6-3) without the best player on the team and arguably the second most talented player on the roster(nah more like 3rd second was Z-bo) and without his lottery pick who was on a bike in the hall way somewhere who knows…hahahaha….if your honest(never that here) roster wasn’t that bad after all if you reaaaalllly think about it….just sayin….was good coaching though….

I remember Knicks fans actually embarrassing that squad and was kind of sad to see that team break up especially so soon….We got a brief glimpse of Isiah’s(watch the hypocrisy/double talk or none comments come after mentioning his name…pettiness) vision……because we finally got a taste of winning basketball….

Mucha, you’re better than this…resist the temptation. I know it’s hard to let him think the reason no one responds is because they’re afraid of his “facts”, but it’s better for everyone if you leave it alone haha…trust me.

Definitely

i think walsh did a great job. he specifically said that it would be a tough couple of seasons when he got here. he was telling us get ready to lose.
now after those seasons we are in a very good position regarding the future. i give the guy a b+
i do not however give mike dantoni a pass at all, because i think we should have had more wins. but in the end, the players have to play not the coach.

“I just think it’s a little ridiculous to be like well, he didn’t get us Lebron, so he’s a failure.”

Never said that.

I said that his ability to get star players to join the team was the only reason why I personally wasn’t completely and wholeheartedly against the hire. I’ve said many times that I understood why they hired _’antoni with the thought that he was hired not only to “coach”, but to lure stars here to play from the “greatest free agency class in NBA history” and I wasn’t the only one saying that. Suddenly that part of his hiring is being downplayed though.

In the meantime I tried to keep an open mind about his capacity as a coach, but after seeing the way he handles egos, personalities, rotations, the media, his inability to hold players accountable, the lack of emphasis on defense (to put it mildly) which he’s admitted and his stubbornness I can’t wait for the Knicks to fire this guy.