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Will Melo Be a Knick?

by Tommy Dee on August 17th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

Via Alan Hahn (welcome back)

Here’s where it gets tricky for the Knicks and where, I’m told, there is some debate going on within the Knicks’ hierarchy. Is it worth paying a king’s ransom for Carmelo now, when it is possible you can sign him as a free agent next summer (or after a lockout)? Is it smart to give up a very affordable young talent in Gallinari, who has the potential to be a second or third star player, and remove any chance of making a run at Paul or Deron Williams in 2012?

If you pass on Melo, you’re banking on Gallo, and his back, to emerge as a star. If you go for it, you’re banking on Raymond Felton proving he can handle the job of running a team and feeding Gallinari, Carmelo and Amar’e (who would have to move to the five in this scenario).

And if not Felton, perhaps you’re still hoping with all of these wing players you can somehow finally pry Ricky Rubio from the Timberwolves.

Having endured a ton of negative reaction in the form of “deja vu” and “here we go again” let’s set the record straight.

I have no idea if the Knicks and Nuggets can come to an agreement on a deal. I believe the player has plenty of leverage in this case and I’m not sold on the idea that the Knicks have enough to get it done. We know Melo wants NY but does Denver want NY’s players.

So for those of you who already feel burnt by the LeBron situation, I guess you’ll have to bite your lip and hold on for another ride. I’m not sure anyone knows how this will end at this point.

I’ll say this. There is no way the Nuggets allow what happened to the Cavs happen to them.
  • daempire87

    hey guys been reading alot of your comments ever since free agency started, so i recently decided to join, i put together this trade on nba trade machine on espn, pretty good trade for all 3 sides salaries work and in my opinion denver gets more then what the twolves got for garnett, denver gets 2 first rounders in the deal also and detroit gets 2 second rounders and we get denvers 2nd round pick.http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

  • daempire87

    sorry the link didnt work but here is the deal and it works under nba salary cap rules, we get ben gordon and carmelo anthony, the pistons get azubuke, wilson chandler and nene and 2 2nd round pick, the nuggets get gallinari, tayshaun prince,eddy curry and turiaf plus 2 first round picks.let me know what you guys think

  • CircleLimit4

    I say wait. Melo holds all the leverage in terms of signing an extension. If we can sign Melo under a newer (hopefully cheaper) CBA then let’s do it, but I don’t want to give up Gallo and/or AR and multiple first picks to have Melo on average of 20mil per year going into a new CBA.

    Melo is great, but I think if we don’t get him for the right price, we’re just turning ourselves into a perennial 4 seed with no draft picks at best.

  • daempire87

    and all of those contracts the nuggets r getting r expiring contracts

  • Pavvy

    I rather wait on melo next summers free agency so we can evaluate our own players and see how good gallo randolph and all the others play together and individually!!! right now its pretty much taking a gamble

  • brookdon

    good deal but i don’t think we would have to give up that much for gordon.

  • CircleLimit4

    That sounds like it might work, but then the Knicks have 3 very high priced offensive weapons who play below average to zero defense.

  • YO SON

    YO ds you said that that trade to sac was a rumor on realgm….I dont think I even knew about realgm when that trade was available……I read about that trade ironically from alahn hahn he reported it….multiple times…

  • NYK4Life0307

    We need to win now. None of this lets pass on Melo BS. If the Knicks do not jump the gun on this now, we will lose Melo. Point Blank. There is nothing to think about here. Gallo is a rising star, but what if that star reaches his limit averaging less than 20 a game? Then there is that what if factor. No more thinking about this crap. Just get it done and move on. Im just so sick and tired of hearing lets wait til next year bull crap.

  • theNYKnickz

    The Knicks need a team, not a duo, or trio. They have only a small idea of what they have right now in Randolph, Gallo, and Chandler, and I think it would be irresponsible to trade them away without finding out how they play together, especially with Carmelo being a free agent and expressing strong interest in NY.

  • johnny23

    I honestly think its a mistake passing on Melo. Hes a superstar and wants to be in New York! Hes from New York. He brings Leadership with him. Now if you have Melo and Amare that leadership will bring the best out of this team. Now you give up anybody plus a gallo OR randolph. Wilson Chandler, Buke, mason, turiaf, douglas, whoever. This would be huge for New York. I like to see felton, buke, melo, gallo, and stat. We have to jump all over this. We can wait till the summer and run the risk of a lebron type situation. Come on people weve been playin with duhon, harrington, chandler, jared jeefries nate david lee. we pick up melo, stat and have felton at the point then fill in the roster with gallo or randolph. WE need to act on this ASAP. MELO and STAT the face of franchise. we are in business!!!

  • NYK4Life0307

    Tommy Dee, they are talking about the “Decision” part. Not the being traded part. I think at this point they will take whatever the Knicks will offer so they can get Melo out of Denver to the Knicks. The Knicks do have pieces to move and an expiring contract in Curry. Also, they can give up draft picks. The point here is to win and win now and many years to come.

  • knicks-yankees axis18

    good deal thats what i want to…i would rather sign him outright in 2011…but the knicks have to understand also that they HAVE to win games NOW this season to make the decision by melo easier when free agency comes around…we have to prove to him that we can not just make the palyoffs but even if we dont get past the first round at least make it a hard fought series where we can get the respect just like bulls, bucks and thunder did last year…

  • johnny23

    Agreed. This in great oppurtunity

  • NYK4Life0307

    I do want Randolph though. He will be something special. Everybody else, they can go.

  • johnny23

    Randolph or gallo if you had to choose to stay?

  • theNYKnickz

    Everyone?

  • FourWedges

    Yes.
    Carmelo will likely get traded somewhere, but if his interest is NY, then he will just be a rental for any other team and then he will come to NY as a FA.
    Dont discount his new wife in this scenario.
    She is from here and she wants to be here.

    If we just wait one season, we keep ALL of our young talent (something that is very important since we have few 1st rd picks) AND get Carmelo.

    NY + Amare + Young Talent = Carmelo as a FA.

  • NYK4Life0307

    Randolph. He can do it all. Gallo, hes just a shooter.

  • NYK4Life0307

    Randolph can shoot the 3, but if he develops that, look out !

  • knicks-yankees axis18

    ok guys wait hold on…this sounds like cris paul part 2….why on earth would the denver nuggets trade theier franchise player now when they just signed al harrington to a five year deal…?they are going to obviously think they have a shot this year to get far in the playoffs so why would they all that away? melo has no leverage to force anything RIGHT NOW…if the nuggets are struggling at the trade deadline THEN i see them trying to trade melo….but even then, why would any team other than the knicks gut their roster to have a player that has expressed interest publicy to join the knicks as soon as free agency starts??

  • NYK4Life0307

    Sorry meant to say cant….

  • FourWedges

    Randolph stays.

    (but I vote to keep them both and wait for 2011 Free Agency)

  • FourWedges

    in that case, why would the Knicks?
    they would just wait for free agency.

  • Starksfor3

    I’m sure that Donnie Walsh will approach this with caution, having done his due dilligence. Unlike his predecessor. ‘Melo to Knicks would trip the balance of power in the East, but not in exchange for both Gallo and Randolph. I think that’s too steep.

  • NYK4Life0307

    They are not gutting there roster. They just need to trade curry, chandler and gallo and future picks for melo. The knicks lineup would look like this:

    Amare
    Randolph
    Melo
    Azubuike
    Felton

    Bench:

    Walker
    Douglas
    Mozgov
    Mason
    Turiaf
    Fields
    Rautins

    So tell me again how they would gut there roster with trading away a guy that didnt play last, a guy who plays the same position as melo, and a guy who is not fit to play SG if Gallo would play SF?

  • Ftingue

    NO ones been getting back to me about Buy out. if Melo wants to come here can the Knicks, Melo, and Denver negotiate a buyout like teams to for European players. If not I say wait, we have a pretty good team, it would be nice to audition for Melo, and show we could make the playoffs. then all Melo in the mixs of a pretty good team

  • SilentJay

    Very well said. Give it a go this season with the present roster to see how we truly stand, and if in ten and half months (or so) Melo still “supposedly” wants to be here, then let him come. Let’s hope Anthony actually agrees with whatever the CBA comes up with, because if not he’ll push for a trade, and Denver will look for a way to get something back for him. In that case, no matter what happens, before, during or after the season, you lose pieces.

  • bob go knicks

    SO IF Alan Hahn said it…it has to be true!

  • FourWedges

    Given Dantoni’s relationship with Gallo’s father, its difficult to see him shipped off to Denver.
    I think Gallo has a personal attachment for two reasons:
    1. the reason above and 2. he was drafted by NY
    I’m thinking Walsh and Dantoni want to see this team play a bit before breaking it up (ie trading Randolph or Gallo).
    The longer this drags on, the less Denver can demand, the better for NY.
    Teams will think ‘in 6 months he will be a FA’; ‘in 4 months he will be a FA’, etc..

  • FourWedges

    Even if Carmelo is traded to another team (not the Knicks); I dont see that as a problem .. IF he wants to come to NY.
    as long as he does not sign that extension, he is a FA at the end of the season.
    Then NY can swoop in sign him.

  • SilentJay

    Denver can pull a David Lee type of move to get something back at the end of the season. It just takes a second party to come to terms with. If they don’t want to come up empty, it’s a strong alternative if he’s not moved before or during the season.

  • NY is not 4 the WEAK

    I still don’t understand why we would trade for this guy instead of wait for FA?

    Everyone keeps saying HAVE to trade NOW bc nothing is a guarantee, and he could LeBron us – BUT

    The only reason we are talking about Melo getting traded is bc he wants to be a Knick (supposedly), not bc he wants to get out of Denver. If he wants to be a Knick that bad, let him suck it up for a year, and play with a full roster that he didn’t help gut.

  • SilentJay

    I don’t think teams out there will want to give up pieces without the security that Melo will stick around. Seems pointless to me.

  • PipeDreamin

    a horse a horse my kingdom for a horse.

    You do not sacrifice a too five player for someone who might be a star.

    Sorry Gallo. No hard feelings.

  • YO SON

    this web site vouches for him…1050 does(home of the NYK)..you see him on the new MSG show now..this dude has made a name for himself…I think he has in some form gone from telling the stand up truth to popular opinion tabloid type reporting to say the least….but bottom lien he lost all credibility with me when he said he wouldn’t involve gallo in a trade for either melo or cp3….to be honest but overall he’s one of the best NYK reporters…

  • yuhdunknow2g

    i dont know if anyone else said something similar to this, but is it possible (if melo really wants to be a knick) that he tells his agent to let all other teams who inquire about trading for melo (other than nyk) “hey look, u can trade for melo now if u want to, but hes not going to sign an extension with your team and will just sign with the knicks as a free agent.” that way he dictates where he ends up in the trade?

    if i was carmelo, and i really wanted to be with the knicks, thats what i would do. i dont think he can come out and say that himself because of tampering, but i dont see why he cant have his agent tell the inquiring teams that. this would be a great way for him to ensure that he gets to the team he wants AND gets his extension deal before the new CBA.

  • Mucha

    Gallinari.

  • Mucha

    1. Gallo isn’t just a shooter

    2. Randolph can’t do it all

  • YO SON

    “1. Gallo isn’t just a shooter”

    please enlighten me…..

  • YO SON

    Given Dantoni’s relationship with Gallo’s father, its difficult to see him shipped off to Denver.

    S T O P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • FourWedges

    I agree 100%.
    I just dont see the urgency, that the other posters on here do.

  • Mucha

    Amar’e Stoudemire vetoed a trade to Golden State because he didn’t want to resign with the Warriors.

    So yeah, Melo can dictate – to a certain extent – where he ends up in a trade.

  • Mucha

    If he was just a shooter he would be Jason Kapono.

    Even though he has a lot of work to do Gallinari can attack the basket, he’s very good at drawing fouls (considering that he’s only 21 or 22) and he’s a very good passer.

  • Jayo

    Yea Denver can always do a sighn & trade at the end of the season .. Or Kobe could break his leg in the first game of the season, which would make Denver the front runners in the east or .. Or .. Or .. There’s too many variables here if you ask me I say Melo is a Nugget at the start of the season, especially with theses weak a$$ Gallo/TD packages people keep putting together ..

    FWI .. I’m listening to the radio, Mike K says the Knicks official offer for Melo is Curry/Gallo/ future 1st round pick .. If Denver bites I’d do it but I can’t see it going down like that ..

  • Jayo

    ^West

  • cms9675

    I think its an even bigger mistake to blow up your team, just for the sake of getting a big star. If we give up allof our young talent to get one person, someone we might be able to get come free agency then we deserve whatever it is we get. People are always in such a rush and look where that got us. Years of losing. I know most of you guys don’t agree but we have a team capable of some very good things and I don’t care what the “experts” say. What’s wrong with being patient if he truly wants ny which he hasn’t said yet. Then he’ll come no matter what. But if we get rid of all our talent to get him what makes you think we’ll be any better than we are now?

  • chito31

    Curry is a non-player. Draft pick will probably be 2014. So basically we are trading Gallo for Melo straight up. I really like Gallo and believe he will be an all-star one day…. but I’d pull the trigger.

    (Wow, and we keep Chandler, AR, and TD)

  • cms9675

    Keep them both and wait until next year to add melo to them. If we are to believe he wants new york then we have all of the leverage in the world. No team is gonna give up all that talent to get him for just one year. What if we trade for him and he decides not to sign an extension and leaves the. Following summer then what?

  • traps9

    Michael Kay reporting on his radio show that his sources say the initial offer is/will be: Curry/Gallinari/Future 1st.

    Obviously, it’s doubtful he’ll come that cheap. However, if true, that’s a much lower starting point than I figured. Maybe we’ll get lucky here.

  • rmccarthy10

    Curry may be a non-player but he’s a hugley sought after commodity. He’s s great bargaining chip..or I should say his disappearing contract is.

  • cms9675

    They are all trying to build a super team. Not a balanced team but a super team. We have a balanced team now and waiting until the end of the season won’t hurt us. Especially if he really wants ny. It gives us a chance to show him we are a good team and that his addition will take us to the next level. Can you see how deep our team would be if we added melo to what we already have? Would be crazy. We would be easily one of the deeper teams in this league. Amare, melo, randolph, gallo, chandler, felton, turiaf, azubuike and mozgov. That sounds pretty damn good to me. Patience is all we need.

  • YO SON

    yes he can attack the basket(seen him miss a lot of tech foul free throws 4th quarter free throws in general) and a pretty good weak side/help defender…”very good passer”….your od’ing never seen it…he’s actually a bad passer and poor decision maker….but may be a good player when it’s all said and done….

  • cms9675

    I would like to see melo wearing a knicks jersey just like everybody else, but if we go trading people for somebody who might come to us anyway then that’s a really dumb move. Wait and see how this thing plays out, if melo want ny then there is really no reason to jump the gun now.

  • http://twitter.com/NYKConnoisseur Matty_Pickles

    I like that offer… I feel like we will have to add something else… Maybe it will only have to be Fields, Walker or another pick but I have a feeling they will want Chandler also… So I would be fine with that.

    It would be sad to see Gallo go, but it is worth it for not just an immediate but for a long time, Melo is 26!

  • Jayo

    You use the word “might”, then you call the trade a dumb move ?

  • ridiculous upside

    False. Hahn’s tweet from earlier today:

    “Knicks fans have to be ready to part with Gallinari if their team has any shot at trading for Carmelo. Fact.”

  • bob go knicks

    thats cuz Gallo is better than melo

  • Mucha

    I’m not saying that he can make plays for his teammates but he’s a very good passer.

  • NY is not 4 the WEAK

    That is what I am saying. If Melo is all about NYK then it is in his best interest to hold off until next year and sign as a FA and play w a stronger team.

    The only reason he would be against that idea, is to not lose the money from the extension he has on the table right now, and face a weaker contract/lock out after this year. If he wanted to prevent that from happening then he needs to sit down w Nuggets and explain that he is not playing for them under any condition, his mind is made up on the Knicks, so either let me sign my extension and get a return on me, or let me walk for nothing.

  • bob go knicks

    if you think that…..you aint lookin

  • YO SON

    umm no YOUR FALSE… because I said based ON HAHN OPINION he said HE wouldnt give up gallo…nice try though….FACT!

  • jgilch82

    i am the biggest Gallo fanboy of them all. But when push comes to shove this is an opportunity that we cant let slip away. The deal would have to be done.

  • mistachill

    1st round pick or Chandler, which would you prefer giving up?

    I’d rather send Chandler and keep the pick.

  • NY is not 4 the WEAK

    I still don’t understand what value Eddy Curry adds in a deal w the Nuggets, if Carmelo would have been a large expiring as well. Do they need Curry in the deal for the sake of matching salaries?

  • NY is not 4 the WEAK

    On a side note, I hope if the Knicks land Melo, other players take note, and the Knicks become the team to go to for players who want to put a crimp in the ambiguously gay trios plans down in souf beach.

  • Mucha

    I’d rather send a late first round draft pick than a 15 ppg player.

  • bb_dot

    people here who wonder if Gallo would be worth trading in a package for Melo need to get a grip. Gallo is a serviceable player but he is nowhere near Melo or Dirk or who else he is being compared to. If you can pull the trigger on melo in a trade right now, you don’t wait until next summer and take the risk of loosing him. You can always find complimentary players to add through drafts and trades. Franchise-type players only become available once every blue moon, particularly in their prime!

  • bklyn ton

    +1

  • Mucha

    I’d HATE to see Gallinari go but Carmelo Anthony’s belongs to the “once-in-a-generation” category of NBA players. I think Gallinari has the POTENTIAL to reach Melo’s level in 3-4-5 years but if the Knicks can trade him for Melo they have to pull the trigger.

  • bigknicka

    Thank you so much for saying exactly what I’ve been thinking.

    I was telling my boy to look at what Boston did, they traded away 2 1st rounders, the #4 pick in the draft, and al Jefferson for Garnett and Allen look how that worked out for them..(2 finals, 1 ring) and those guys are in their 3O’s melo is only 26.

    This love for gallo is ridiculous to me if there’s a way gallo would be equal to melo then keep him but it ain’t happening. His ceiling is toni kukoc or detlef shremf at best, I say keep Randolph cuz he could play 3 positions and is much quicker and athletic than gallo…. We’ll probably have to give up chandler too but if u want melo in the offseason u gotta lose chandler anyway.

  • Knicks4life

    “I’ll say this. There is no way the Nuggets allow what happened to the Cavs happen to them.”

    The Nuggets can and likely will do sign and trade with Melo next summer. They won’t lose him for nothing.

  • Mucha

    Well if the Knicks have enough capspace to sign him the Nuggets will have no control over Melo’s decision. He can leave for nothing.

  • http://www.reeltalkblog.com Shakespeare

    I’d try and hold on to Gallo, jus off the strength we need a lot of 3pt shooters in this system…and he’s the best one we got.

    I’d try and convince them on Chandler, Randolph, Walker, Curry(for his contract) and future draft picks. Maybe even throw in the Rookie Jordan and TD if needed.

  • Jeff C

    I don’t get this. We hold the cards right now. If melo wants to come here, he can very easily do so; there’s no reason we have to rush into a trade and trade a very promising young talent.

    Lets see how OUR team looks this season, or at least until the break, and then we’ll talk.

    it just doesn’t make sense to me becaeuse if melo actaully wants to come here then he will, and we don’t need to rush and gamble to make it happen so that we can have melo and amare competing in PPG and no young players to surround them with.,

  • brookdon

    Gallo Curry and a future 1st would not cut it. 

    Curry is a non value…. He is only in the deal to make numbers match. 

    If we get Melo the pick will be in the 20′s. 
    Gallo is the centerpiece and is a high potential guy but it will take more than just him to get one of the top 5 pure scorers in the league.

    IMO melo dictates where he wants to go. If he tells a team that he doesn’t want to play there that team wont give up the farm for the rental. If the Knicks called with that offer I can see the nuggets telling Melo to shut up and  deal with a lower max contact rather than trade him early for nothing. 

  • Chris Alvino

    Anthony Randolph’s versatility might be better suited around Amare and Melo though. Between those two, I expect close to 40 shots per game. Would Gallo’s effectiveness be limited?

    The problem is that Gallo is homegrown and he has a winner’s attitude. He has not whined since he has been here like AR did in GS. Tough call.

  • ds2488

    YO SON, I said Realgm was the first to report it and then other beat writers such as Alan Hahn jumped on it and ran with it.

    The trade has never been proved to be anything more than a rumor I don’t think so. I could be wrong, as you could also be wrong. Maybe there’s some facts out there?

  • Jeff C

    right now our team is expected to be good, with lots of room to grow, (

    -financial flexibility and youth with upside. THAT is what this has all been about. Making a blockbuster trade for melo would be completely counterproductive. Not everything has to happen right away just because we have fans who crave the quick fix.

  • Mucha

    I don’t know.

    What if the Nets make the playoffs and the Knicks don’t?

    If we can keep a couple of young players and still get Melo I think it’s irresponsible not to pull the trigger.

  • Jayo

    Ughhhh NOBODY wants TD .. Plus they have Lawson ..

  • mistachill

    Look at what Toronto and Cleveland got in return for Bosh and Lebron this summer, only received a pick or two for agreeing to a sign and trade.

    So Denver will not get what they could get now in a sign and trade if they wait until next summer.

  • Jeff C

    Our team is supposed to be good this season with so much room for improvement over the next few years, in many different ways. If we make a blockbuster trade for melo we will be stuck with a 45-50 win team, no youth, no flexibility, no defense, and nowhere to go but down.

  • Mucha

    Gallinari, 2 first round draft picks, Eddy Curry and Kelenna Azabuike is a pretty good offer considering that Melo could leave for nothing.

  • traps9

    ^ This.

    I think you’ll have to do both, though.

  • Mucha

    It depends whether we give up too much or not.

    Carmelo Anthony + Amar’e Stoudemire = 50 wins in the East. If the Knicks keep Wilson Chandler and Anthony Randolph reaches his potential then we have a championship team.

  • brookdon

    http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/23943102

    CBSSports
    Reporting that he wants the Knicks or Magic.

    I don’t really know what the Magic can offer. They have picks and Orton, that could start their deal.

  • Jeff C

    i duno i just feel like we have been going in a specific direction, and everyone seems to like it, and we have really good young players. i want to give this team a chance. Melo/amare with no cap room, draft picks, and no potential future allstars in galo and randolph just seems counterproductive. It’s like we’d be trying to ensure mediocrity for the foreseeable future

  • Jeff C

    and if we have amare, randolph, and galo, and the later young ones reach their potential, that’s also a 50 win team but with youth and the ability to add another good piece.

  • ds2488

    Obviously to get Melo the Knicks are going to have to give up some assets. But they have more leverage than people are giving them credit for, so long as Carmelo actually really wants to play for New York. If that’s the case, and Carmelo is willing to veto trades to other teams, I say an offer of Gallo or Randolph plus Wilson plus Curry gets it done. Maybe a future 1st rounder and Toney Douglas or Bill Walker too?

    No need for the Knicks to bet the farm on this, of course going on the major assumption that Melo wants to come here, and here alone. They need to try and keep one of the two out of Gallinari and Randolph imo.

  • bb_dot

    Mucha, Gallo will never reach Melo’s level. It won’t happen. He does NOT have that “potential”. I know he is young, but recall what melo was like in college. The writing was on the wall.

  • Mucha

    lol at Stat’s face

  • Mucha

    UFO?

  • http://Knicks.com/ Russ

    I’m convinced that Melo wants to come to New York. If he’s not traded to the Knicks now, he’ll sign with a team that plays in, or that will soon play in New York City when he becomes a free agent. I believe that the Knicks have an edge over New Jersey, but they are moving to Brooklyn. Melo spent the first eight years of his life in Brooklyn. He could chose to play in Brooklyn. I don’t want to risk that choice. That’s why i believe that it is too risky to wait for next off season.

    Gallo, Chandler and Curry, its been great having two of you. I wish you three all of the best in Denver.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    from a denver prospective i can see them trading him to the nets,the nets can give picks along with young player with potential.

  • bb_dot

    I rather keep Randolph over Gallo. In a couple of years we could have Randolph, Amar’e and Melo as our starting front line. I like that..

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    i want t-doug to stay a knick he’s our best overall guard,gallo wilson an curry should get it done along with picks.

  • Mucha

    Yeah but with Randolph and Gallinari you can be 2 if’s away from being a 50 win team.

    With Melo you have a 50 win team – and you’re probably one if away from having a championship team.

    I think the Knicks have to be aggressive. And you’re a TKB vet you know how much I love Gallo and AR.

  • Mucha

    The Knicks have to keep either Gallinari or Randolph.

    2 All-NBA players plus one potential All-Star is a great foundation.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    check it people,let them trade carmela to any team the team might rent him for a year unless they want him to sign the extension if not u all will findout how bad he wants to be a knick when f.a starts next year.

  • Mucha

    Melo wants to win, he can veto any trade to NJ if he doesn’t want to resign with the Nets.

    I think he’ll eventually stay in Denver/force a trade to NY or Orlando if the Magic are willing to trade 5 1st round draft picks.

  • Mucha
  • ds2488

    I think the Nets can probably put together a good offer.

    Favors, T-Will, 1st round pick from Golden State, Some of their own 1st rounders, Maybe Morrow plus Troy Murphy to make the offer work.

    That’s not a bad deal at all for the Nuggets or the Nets.

  • brookdon

    Nets can offer Harris, favors and picks which blows away anything that we can offer.

    But does Melo want to play with the Nets?

    Farmar
    T Will
    Melo
    Murphy
    Lopez

    Is not better than

    Felton
    Buike
    Melo
    Randolph/Amare
    Amare/Randolph/Turiaf

    Melo can tell the nets no I’m not signing long term, then a trade would most likely be rescinded because no team will want to rent melo.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    i really want to see what gallo ant-ran an chandler do,hope none get traded b4 the deadline,also t-doug

  • ds2488

    I don’t think Denver would want Devin Harris. What would they do with him?

    They have both Chauncey and Lawson to back him up. Would they go small with Chauncey and Harris as their backcourt?

    I think they’d much rather have Murphy’s expiring.

  • brookdon

    They can’t trade morrow.

  • ds2488

    +1000. Wait until the tradeline anyway and hopefully Denver gets more desperate in the meantime.

  • ds2488

    Oh. He was just a throw-in anyway lol.

    Good job though catching that.

  • ds2488

    I like T-doug and hope he stays, but if he needs to be thrown in then I don’t have any problem doing it.

  • KnickerbockerLocker

    Get it done. Chandler, Gallo, 1st rounder, Curry and a throw in if needed (Fields, Walker?). Keep Randolph. Melo, Amar’e, Randolph would be the illest frontline in the NBA.

  • moderatethis

    Ricky Rubio??

  • DVJ

    Nets cannot offer more.

    Favors is not even available to trade unless he hasn’t been signed by the Nets yet which I doubt since Henry is the only 1st round pick not to sign.

  • brookdon

    Murphy TWill Favors and GS Pick and 2 fist rounders is a good deal I agree. Melo still holds lots of leverage.

    Harris
    Morrow
    Melo
    Humphries? Damien James?
    Lopez

    Still don’t believe that is a better lineup than what he would have with the Knicks

  • jt

    The knicks need to look at the bigger picture, which is aiming for CP3. CP3 only has two years left, meaning next year he will be in the same position as melo. we give up gallo now, next year we can include felton in a package for cp3, and we have the best team in the NBA.

  • ds2488

    I agree with that. But if Carmelo’s willing to play there, that’s probably one of the better offers a team can put together.

    But Knicks have a better lineup as of right now I agree.

  • jt

    getting melo will make cp3 come here. he said it himself. he wants to play with melo and amare. now i dont care how much ‘potential’ gallo has, if this trade will lure chris paul, you do it without thinking.

  • Pat
  • ds2488

    Why can’t they trade him unless he’s unsigned? Is there some kind of no-trade period for recently signed draftees?

  • thebossandbenji76

    I think a fair deal for both sides is Curry, Gallo and Randolph for Anthony. Denver has Pg’s in Billups and Lawson, they have no use for Tony Douglas. They have JR smith to play the 2. They need a 3 and a 4, AL Harrington…..no comment…K-Mart I think is injured and won’t start the year, they have a 5 in Nene, Gallo at the 3 and Randolph at the 4 along with Billups at the 1, Smith at the 2 and Nene at the 5 is a pretty good team and they get cap flexibility with the eddy curry contract. Also they get flexibility in a couple yrs also when Billups’ contract is up and lawson starts. Knicks…they have Felton(till 2012 when knicks will have enough cap room to go for cp3 or D-will), they have Bill walker, mason, azk at the 2, anthony at the 3, Amare at the 4 and Turiaf/Mosgov at the 5. Lets roll..:)

  • Chapzilla

    Nuggets are still a good team without Melo. They’re not Cleveland. Couldve beaten Lakers two years in a row up until coach Karl got sick. They don’t need the farm for Melo, just a solid replacement and draft picks. Doesn’t even make a whole lot of sense for Melo to leave, $ and ring wise when you look at the Knicks. Once again, media hype and toying with the hopes of desperate fans.

  • HaS

    “thats cuz Gallo is better than melo”

    bob, you’re too much man.

  • HaS

    “I’m not saying that he can make plays for his teammates but he’s a very good passer.”

    What do very good passes do?

  • HaS

    “I think Gallinari has the POTENTIAL to reach Melo’s level in 3-4-5 years but if the Knicks can trade him for Melo they have to pull the trigger.”

    C’mon Mucha.

    Players that are on Melo’s “level” don’t take 3-4-5 years to develop. They’re prodigies, you would see that early and he would help a team win games as soon as he got major minutes. Gallo didn’t show up most 4th quarters and didn’t come out of the locker room on the road.

  • swiftandabundant

    All you people on here saying don’t trade for Melo now, wait. You are all out of your mind CRAZY.

    Yes, we think Melo wants to play in NYC. But if he’s pushing a trade that means he wants to play here NOW. What if that feeling cools or he’s sent to another team and they turn out to be awesome and he changes his mind. If he wants to be a Knick now, then MAKE IT HAPPEN.

    Too much could happen between now and next summer. The Nets could be good and maybe Carmelo will think about Brooklyn. Or The Nets could do that Chris Paul trade and that sways Melo. Orlando, Dallas, New Orleans, Houston…all sorts of good/decent teams could put together a package, sign Melo and then they are so good he wants to stay there instead of coming to NYC. People think its in the bank he will come here. Don’t be greedy and think we can have Gallo, STAT, AR, and Melo. We have to give up something. Hey, maybe Donnie is a genius and we give up Walker and TD for Melo, who knows. But the point is, make the trade. We won’t have to trade the farm because Melo does have some power. But you can’t leave this up to chance. Its too big of a name to pass on.

    You get Melo and STAT on the same team, you have 2 players who demand the double team. Then pick up Tony Parker or trade for Deron Williams or CP3 next year. Or keep Felton.

    I get people want to see our potential. But we kinda know Gallo and Chandler’s potential all ready. And AR might be great, but he could also be a bust. Melo is a sure thing. He is cash money, gangsta, with ice running through his veins. He can hit the game winning shots. WE get Melo, we will have 2 perrenial all stars in their prime on our team.

  • HaS

    “i want t-doug to stay a knick he’s our best overall guard”

    Including AZ and Mason?

    I think you’re bugging.

    Toney is a dime a dozen player at this point an undersized two guard who can’t finish around the basket and can’t create a shot for his teammates.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    havn’t heard much about him in a while,KAHN is holding back that kid.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD_KnowLedge

    come on HaS mason is garbage he’s always been that,azabuke might be a little better.

  • Joe-V

    Thank U, some people are crazy,.. IF GALO IS NOT WORTH GETTING MELO THAN WHAT IS???

    UHHHH?? Dumb Crazy people who must stay inside and watch Clyde and Pat highlights all day..LOL

  • http://theknicksblog.com MiamiMoe

    i think Chandler is a better fit for Denver IMO…think about it…
    Denver just signed Kleiza so a versatile, athletic, strong,cheap, slasher/scorer/defender who can guard 2-4…PLUS this is a factor that NO ONE has talked about when it comes to Gallo…Gallo came to te NBA to play for NY and D’Antoni, bottmline…i think that Gallo wants to be in NY and if he is traded to another tem he does’t wanna be in he can just bolt back to Italy where he can be home, get paid, and be a legend ala Fran Vasquez a couple of yrs ago…Gallo is talented enough to be a great player but smart teams & GMs have to think outside the box…so while Gallo is a good player he’s not the best fit considering they just signed Kleiza & Gallo could just BOLT to Italy leavin the Nuggets w/ nothing…
    IMO we should be patient w/ the situatin cuz Melo & the NYK have the leverage so no need to rush…BUT just for giggles
    Curry, Chandler, Fields/Walker, & 1st rounder for Melo is a good deal

  • PickNY

    Dude, slowdown man u r speeding unnecessarily! Meli coming regardless.

  • bluemax

    So, let Melo watch begin!

    if we are to get Melo we may as well give them Gallo ( That rhymes BTW!)

    because Gallo will never see any minutes between Amare and Melo in the front court unless you decide to play Amare some serious minutes at center. Not very likely as long as AR is around. So if it takes Curry, Gallo and a 2014 to do the deal, then you may as well do it.

    letting go of Gallo would mean the need to acquire a serious deep shooting threat at SG for sure. what we have now just won’t cut it! so there goes Chandler for sure!

    In other words we need to restructure the team before we even play one game. I just hate to see that.

    I just kind of hope Den turns this deal down and we get to see this team play because I believe this squad might be able to do something special.

    My preferred approach would be to land Melo at the end of the season as a FA because I believe that the CP3 trade is not really dead. I think we might be able to do the big 3 ourselves! Amare, Melo as FA and CP3 in 2011/12 in a trade. Call me crazy but it’s goin’ to happen in 11. Mark my word!

  • swiftandabundant

    By the way, my preferred approach would be to sign Carmelo in the off season too. But if he wants to come now, who are we to tell him to wait? It would guarantee the playoffs this year. I would love to see Carmelo and Gallo together (I think they respect each other a lot too) but if you get Carmelo, Gallo is more expendable because they play the same position. Randolph can play more positions, so it makes sense to keep him. Unless you have Gallo as your 6th man, which could be very cool if Gallo was ok with it.

    Maybe we make the trade bigger and they throw in JR Smith so we have some 3 point shooting? I know some people will hate that idea but im throwing it out there! We give them Gallo, Chandler, Walker, Curry and a 1st Round Pick. They give us Carmelo and JR Smith (or Billups…hehehe).

  • KnickKam

    I dont know why some people don’t get this. The urgency is not coming from the Knicks, the urgency is coming from the Nuggets who are looking to tradee Melo before they lose him to free agency and get nothing in return. Since THE NUGGETS are looking for a trade we have to make a move to get Melo now instead of risk losing him to some other team. No team that trades for him will want to just give up a bunch of their players to just rent him for a year!So whoever gets him will get him for at least a few years. We have to act now.DUH!

  • KnickKam

    I dont know why some people don’t get this. The urgency is not coming from the Knicks, the urgency is coming from the Nuggets who are looking to tradee Melo before they lose him to free agency and get nothing in return. Since THE NUGGETS are looking for a trade we have to make a move to get Melo now instead of risk losing him to some other team. No team that trades for him will want to just give up a bunch of their players to just rent him for a year!So whoever gets him will get him for at least a few years. We have to act now.DUH!

  • KnickKam

    We are not the one’s jumping the gun. Denver is.

  • ChopNY

    I think our current roster is good, not finished but good. Lets see what this roster can do for us before we start trading our young talent for Melo.

    Melo is not dumb, he knows that this team would be really good if he came here next season. Instead of trading all our good players for him now. Trading Gallo or Randolph for him would set us back a bit.

    I say, 2010 Knicks + Melo in 2011 = Deep in playoffs. Go Knicks Go.