Saturday Matinee: 1998 Game 3 Knicks/Pacers

I miss the NBA on NBC theme, it was fun hearing it again during the Olympics

Song’s amazing.

(Theme)

I remember taping the old NBC theme back in elementary school and getting hyped before pick up games in the morning lol. Those were magical times.
Song holds up well, they should bring it back.

the work of one john tesh

Nba on Nbc theme was the best theme…how about at the garden in those days when they played a song (dont know the name) in the 4th quarter with the game on the line..i get chills just thinking about it….i still think Patrick should’ve duked the ball in 95!!!!…next day in elementary school i needed to hear it from all the Bulls (bandwagon) fans..ehhh..memories…

John Tesh is a musical genius, he rarely gets the credit he deserves.

MSG song was Final Countdown I believe…Always played as a big fourth quarter timeout was ending…Loved it.

NBA on NBC music is the greatest sport music ever. I was upset when the NBA went away from NBC for national games/playoffs. Epic music still get’s me hype to watch some b-ball.

Only game they won in that series.

I was lucky to be there when they clinched the conf. championship the following year.

Roundball rock is probably the greatest theme ever. At least it’s my favorite.

Daps to MrDbo for the name of the song

Sam Amico: Early word around NBA is Nuggets will try to trade Carmelo to 1 of 3 teams: Wolves, Kings, Nets. In other words, careful what you wish for. Twitter

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29axy4s

This trade would leave the Kings with a lineup of:

PG- Udrih
SG- Evans
SF- Melo
PF- Cousins
C- Thompson

Thats a dynasty in the making. The Nuggets would also get a true C with a big expiring contract, a very good PF, and a SF to replace Melo. The Kings may need to throw in Whiteside or a pick as well. This deal makes a ton of sense though.

“This deal makes a ton of sense though”

?

i think he means the deal in the link he attached.

I dont think thats a great deal where Denver would jump at that. They would have to throw in picks as well. I honestly believe a gallo AR deal would be better than the one you put up for SAC town

Caspi and landry is not better than gallo and Wilson.

Watching the video gave me goose bumps just seeing the garden rocking and most of my fav players. Some one linked an article mentioning knicks thinking of having gallo at SG and AR at the SF spots. I actually like that lineup, i know i will get killed for saying that. But I rather gallo at the 2 than chandler. This way you can have Will as our sixth man. I just want the BEST players on the court period. If AR was bigger i would rather him at C but he isnt so he has to play SF and some PF. What other way can we get them on the court together? Also Gallo seemed to play alot better last season after Will was injured, so keeping them separated might not be a bad idea.

we need to cut steve kerr & pick up Tiny Gallon

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68884/20100828/bucks_may_not_have_room_for_gallon/

We will need size and power in the post and he can be a Mase like enforcer. Like i said in an earlier post we need to get John Thompson Sr to run a big man camp for Drago AR & Gallon and watch how those defensive and rebounding fundamentals come along!

Alright, how about Caspi, Landry, Dalembert, Whiteside, and a pick? Thats a very good deal for the Nuggets, and the Kings could replace all of those guys. It would leave Denver with a lineup of:

Billups
Afflalo
Caspi
Landry
Dalembert/Nene

They could breed Whiteside as a replacement for Nene, Dalembert is a nice expiring contract to have, and Caspi and Landry could both start. Plus they could throw in a pick. You must be the biggest Knick Homer in the world if you actually think they would prefer Gallo and Chandler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THTK7UpjM94&feature=related

Are you asking how it makes a ton of sense? It gives the Nuggets a starting SF, a starting PF, and a starting C with a big expiring contract. The Kings could also throw in Whiteside and/or a pick.

For the Kings, it gives them a top 10 player in the NBA to pair with their 2010 ROY in Evans, and quite possibly the 2011 ROY in Cousins. The Kings also already have a good young PF/C in Thompson, so they don’t really need Whiteside or Dalembert.

hey man, don’t get me wrong. Caspi and landry are nice players.

Whiteside is a second round pick.

dalembert is ok.

Its a competitive offer on par with what the knicks can offer.

But you are forgetting the main factor. Does Melo want to sign to play in sac?

Thats a fair point. You would have to think that playing with Evans and Cousins would be pretty enticing. I think that not having any picks hurts the Knicks a lot. I don’t really think Chandler has much value because he is a RFA, so they would probably have to overpay for him in order to keep him. Gallo does have value, but I don’t think he has more than Landry, Caspi, Whiteside, and a pick. Especially since the Nuggets need big men. Dalembert, like Curry, is pretty much just an expiring contract. Unlike Curry however, he can actually contribute this year. The Knicks would probably have to include Gallo and Randolph in order to beat the offers from other teams. Personally, I wouldn’t give them both up for Melo.

Personally, I wouldn’t trade Gallo and AR for Melo. I think AR is a future all-star, and Gallo is already an above average SF with a lot of potential.

I really think winning is part of the equation for melo. He has a wife with delusions of grandeur.

Right now, I would give up AR and Gallo for melo, but I would rather wait and see what we have .

I really hope Denver is willing to wait till december to deal, which I think is pretty likely.

My problem with trading Randolph now is that I think his value will increase tremendously during the season. If he plays as well as some people (including myself) think he can play, we could probably trade him straight up for a super star. I don’t like the idea of trading him when his value is at its lowest. If he plays for 30+ minutes per game, I think he will put up big numbers. His size/athleticism combination is ridiculous. Plus, he is the youngest player on the team.

BREAKING NEWS 3 likely destinations for Melo, now lets move on from this melo crap please-
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68888/20100828/nuggets_want_to_deal_carmelo_to_nets_kings_or_wolves/

the nba on nbc was the best ever,cbs had it b4 nbc an around that time usa network use to be giving games also,abc got the worse contract with the nba.

that can be your replacement for ya boy dexter,gallon is a very big body i think he can have an impact in the middle

Yea I think he can be a good big baby type dude slash Mase kind of big man in the paint & off the bench. I just wish Magoo would holla at John Thompson and let him put some work in with our big guys that would really advance there games. Lets be honest the only thing they will learn from MD is how to curse in Italian lol.

Knowledge how crazy is it that he got picked way before our picks and ended up on the Heat!

ABC’s overall coverage of the NBA sucks, but I really like Mike Breen, Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson.

Melo might go to NJ, they have murphy’s expiring, humphries expiring, mutiple #1 picks and Derrick Favors to offer.

“I think AR is a future all-star, and Gallo is already an above average SF with a lot of potential.”

Gallo is above average. . .right now?

AR has shown you he will be a future all-star?

NBA on ABC is awful.

JVG does a good job. Mark Jackson is below average.

Wow, if NJ is willing to give up Favors, mulitple #1s and Murphy’s expiring Denver would probably trade Melo in a minute. That is alot of picks right there.

I’ve learned to appreciate Mark Jackson… He brings common sense and some excitment to the table…

TNT’s pre/post game coverage + ABC’s commentators would be almost perfect.

I like the dynamic between Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy.

i agree with the mark jax statement,he brings some sanity to the coverage when guys say dumb ish

from Denver Post via Real GM

“Denver owner Stan Kroenke is reportedly firing back threats to Anthony’s representatives and seems willing to play hardball rather than let a player under contract dictate terms. But in the end, Anthony’s power to sign or not sign an extension with Denver’s trade partner ensures that the team’s management and Anthony will need to work together to come to a resolution on the superstar’s future

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/2/#ixzz0xxcALwdI

All these stories of teams where Melo might be going like the Nets, KIngs, Rockets etc…are just a list of team where DEN “wishes” Melo to go. Not where Melo actually wants to go. None of that is ever going to happen without Melo’s consent. Period. Who is Denver kidding?

It’s clear that Melo isn’t scared here and that we are heading for a stalemate. The closer we get to the start of the season the worse this is going to get. fasten your seat belt. I have a feeling this could get really bad if Kroenke doesn’t come down from his horse.

the more teams we hear from like the kings and the wolves and the more I become convinced that we (NYC) are the only serious candidates. I will only start to worry if we hear from a real serious candidate like maybe WASH or even DAL.

AR hasn’t shown me that he definitely will be an all-star, I just think he will. Thats my guy feeling. Yes, Gallo is already an above average SF. They had him ranked 11th on Yahoo sports. He is clearly in the top 15, meaning he is above average.

I’m amazed by how much Mike Breen hates my Knicks.

?

He did everything to build a positive image of Jared Jeffries and describe Jordan Hill as a promising player during the Knicks-Lakers game last season lmao

“Yes, Gallo is already an above average SF”

Wow.

Who is he better than?

In no certain order:

LeBron
Durant
Carmelo
Josh Smith
Gerald Wallace
Rudy Gay
Paul Pierce
Ariza
Iguodola
Grant Hill
Loul Deng
Caron Butler
Granger
Ron Artest
Lamar Odom

I think he’s behind all of these guys, some are getting older now so he has a chance to move up, but he’s an also-ran not much better than the rest of the pack. Keep in mind he hasn’t proven to be a difference maker or prove he can contribute to a winning team.

You guys routinely overrate Gallinari. He’s not even the “hands down” best SF on his own team imho.

I was clearly being sarcastic lol.

Mike Breen is a referee disguised as a color commentator.

I think Gallo is average or above average right now…To be honest I think you guys routinely underrate him, I’ve seen him be called one-dimensional on here more times than I care to remember.

At this point, I would have to say he’s better than Grant Hill, better than Trevor Ariza, and arguably better than both Ron Artest and Lamar Odom, although I’d say Odom is more of a power forward so they don’t really compare. Same goes for Josh Smith.

That leaves him right around 10-12 in terms of where he is in small forward rankings, which would qualify as above average. That’s not even taking into account that last year was his first full year as a player.

You realize that all of those guys you just said he is better than have been able to have good games on the road, have had big 4th quarters, big playoff games and done it for winning teams?

LMAO

Wow.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Ariza was great for the Lakers, but he was awful this year for the Rockets when asked to take on a bigger role. Absolutely awful. Gallo was better than him this year.

As the Lakers showed, they were going to win with or without Ariza anyway. It’s easy to have good games when you’re playing with Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol. A little harder when you’re playing with Al Harrington and David Lee.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this I guess though. I didn’t expect Gallo or really any rookies/sophomores to be able to carry their teams to the playoffs/championships without some help, and I don’t hold it against them if they are unable to do so. I guess thats where we are different.

But yes, Gallo is better than Ariza, and Grant Hill is on the downslope. Much easier to have experience in playoff games when you’ve played for 10+ years as opposed to 1 or 2 imo. Also helps to have Steve Nash as your pg.

As I said those other guys you mentioned are probably listed as power forwards, which does make Gallo an above-average or average small forward in a pure numbers sense.

“I didn’t expect Gallo or really any rookies/sophomores to be able to carry their teams to the playoffs/championships without some help, and I don’t hold it against them if they are unable to do so. I guess thats where we are different.”

I did kind of expect a lot more from Gallo being that he’s been playing professionally before puberty against grown men and was the best player on a good European team, but that’s just me.

Like I said other than age those guys are all better/more consistent than Gallinari was last year. Ariza was given a different role last year, but he still did it on a winning team, performed on the road and in 4th quarters.

Gallinari is not a top 10 SF I think that’s crazy talk. He is just above avaerage and like I said he is neck and neck with Chandler, people forget how good Will was playing before he went down. Is Chandler top 10-12 SF in the NBA too? C’mon man.

Gallo was better than Ariza last year imo. Just look at the stats. Gallo did perform in the 4th quarter. I agree his road performances were bad, but a lot of young players suffer from that.

Like I said, Gallo is close to 10 in terms of small forward rankings across the league. He’s above average in that regard. Yahoo ranks him at 11 in small forwards, and your list also puts him there considering that a few of the guys are listed as power forwards on that list. Name 15 better small forwards than him and I will say you’re right. So far you’ve named 10-12 who are better than him.

And Gallo is better than Chandler. I’m sorry, I know a lot of guys on here think that’s blasphemy but it’s simply true. Gallo is more efficient, a better passer, has a better handle, is obviously a better shooter, is a smarter player, and is a better defender. People forget that once Al Harrington was out of the picture and Chandler was hurt Gallo averaged 20 points a game on good efficiency. He gets to the line a lot, which is something Chandler’s never been able to do.

Chandler is an average small forward imo. Gallo is above average.

Gallinari and Chandler are very close imho.

I like both of them, but no way is Gallinari way better than him, if Gallinari is top 10 then Chandler is top 12 at least. I think you’re wildly overrating Gallo right now.

Lamar and Josh are play 3/4 neither one of them can be considered “more” PF than SF, please. Lamar often play point forward for LA and if Smith is as much a PF as LeBron or Durant.

I think Gallinari is amongst the “also-rans” and is definitely part of the pack of talented SF’s with potential, but I can’t see ranking him top 10, not yet. He’s in the conversation with the Chandlers, Batums and Jeff Greens of the world.

He played well at the end of a meaningless season, let’s see if he comes back better nest year and builds off that. He has time to prove it, Knicks fans don’t have to thrust him where he doesn’t belong (pause) without him earning it on the court.

Melo could come out thru his people and just say I will only sign an extension with the Knicks and Wizards and kill Denver’s trade market. As long as Melo does not say it, he does not get fined, so let his people say it.

Josh Smith is definitely ranked as a power forward, considering that’s the position he played all year last year. Odom is more of a tweener, but I would consider him a 4 since he rebounds and plays inside more like a 4, and doesn’t really have much of an outside game past a good handle.

I don’t see where I’m wildly overrating Gallo. All I have said is that numberwise, Gallo is right around the top 10 in terms of small forwards in the league, which would make him above-average. I never said he was “way” better than Chandler, I just said he was better. I never said Gallo was top 10 either. The specific range I said was 10-12 most likely, and it seems like you kind of agree with that. Yahoo ranks him at 11 at his position, are they wildly overrating him? You seem to agree that he’s around the range of 10-15 anyway, which puts him right at the average to above-average range.

I don’t think it’s thrusting Gallo where he doesn’t belong to say he’s an above-average small forward in the league. To say he’s the next Dirk is thrusting him where he doesn’t belong. As is comparing him to Channing Frye and Jason Kapono.