Live Chat with TD at Noon

pretty good job by the commenters, save for some repetitiveness and the Landry fields Rook of the year question…..jeez.

Anyway, I asked:
If the Nuggets wait until December to trade Melo, the nets can offer a much better package that will keep them competitive. Murphey, Harris, favors, Morrow, Picks for Melo, Smith and Chauncey. Does that scare you?

Tommy said:
why would Denver do that? Melo AND chauncey and not get Lopez in the deal? not happening. Again, if melo agrees to sign an extension with another team besides the Knicks he won’t be a knick. It’s that simple.

Denver would do that because if they trade melo, billups is useless cuz they will be rebuilding. Get a replacement in harris, a potential stud in Favors and maybe 3 picks, plus they get rid of smith. NJ (soon to be BK) scares me.

Tommy said: i have no idea frankly. Maybe they are pissed that the press room food at MSG stinks and they have to pay for it.

i was thinking recently about that Frank isola article a few years back complaining about bologna sandwiches for the press. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

That article pissed me off, but frank inadvertently shed light on why the press is not just critical of the knicks, but HATE the franchise. Anyone have a copy of that article?

What a crybaby!!!!!

I guess a couple of my questions got “moderated”. Cool though. Good job.

yea, me too. But the landry fields as rookie of the year candidate question had to be addressed. Whats up with that moderated thing anyways?

i only saw one question from you and starks i said it 5 times, if melo wants to sign in NJ then he’ll be a net. they have a better offer.

geez man, someone wake up on the wrong side of happiness today?

Dude, it has nothing to do with what NJ can offer. If Melo doesn’t want to sign an extension somewhere, then there’s no chance of him going there; that’s all that matters. it’s why amare eventually became a free agent. If Melo’s looking to sign longterm for the nets its a different story, but somehow i doubt that.

If teams want to trade all their assets for a one year rental then so be it, but he’ll still be a free agent next summer.

I’ve said all along, nothing is going to happen.

That JJ & draft picks trade was terrible! And yes it was ALL about pandering to LBJ, JJ’s contract comes off the books this year so EC & JJ’s contract’s would be 18mil coming off the books. Let us also not forget that it was also a way to cover up that horrendous Lottery pick in Hill, I guess Magoo thinks out of sight out of mind lol. Anyway there is no way this was a good trade what so ever we have zero to show for it to be honest but hey thats just IMO.

Who me?

My question was do you really think Fields will be in the rotation?

I see _’antoni with the pressure of proving he can coach actually sticking to what he believes can win even more. Which means a tight rotation which is part and parcel to his philosophy. I think he’ll go about 8 deep and try different lineups early (maybe mostly in training camp and preseason) until he finds one he’s comfortable with and then go out on his shield.

My other question was what kind of season do you think it would take for him to get fired?

LMAO I almost spilled my coffee all over the keyboard when I read that ridiculous post!!

landry fields rookie of the year!?! LMAO the guy had 2 good SUMMER LEAGUE games and now people see him as better then Chandler & rookie of the year lmao. I tell ya man people are hilarious!

Oh yeah and Tommy, there is no way the Knicks are championship contenders in 2-3 years. Declaring that Jeffries trade a bad one is just a formality, if that’s your criteria.

If the Knicks can somehow get Chris Paul and a more well rounded coach I think they’d have a shot, but with an improving Rose on a revamped Chicago team, the 3 amigos in Miami, Orlando with a still young Howard, Jameer Nelson and flexibility, I seriously don’t see the Knicks challenging to come out of the East.

I feel strongly about missing the boat on Melo then overpaying for Gasol. Him and Amare would be tough to deal with for the heat and then we have promising young wings to develop in their own rights in Gallo/Wilson/Randolph. I cant see Memphis affording Gasol and he plays the game with a high IQ similar to his brother but can become an even bigger hanful possibly because of his size. our 3-4-5 would be young and set for years to come and like i said… could possibly give the heat fits. Priority number one though until then is get Melo…

“it’s why amare eventually became a free agent.”

I agree with everything except that.

Amar’e became a free agent because the Suns refused to offer him a guaranteed, uninsurable, maximum salary contract.

Hey Tommy – you didn’t get to my question.

If Melo isn’t traded and the Knicks plan on signing him in the offseason, what are the other options for Curry’s expiring contract? Just let if come off the books or do you think they will definitely utilize it with a trade?

not you no…

no playoffs gets him fired. Fields and Chandler are similar players. one plays one sits or gets traded IMO.

it’s not a bad trade yet. No amare or felton if we don’t do it…it comes down to the value of the picks moving forward. if they are end of 1st round picks it really can’t be considered “bad”

they may be able to get something for it at the deadline…

I get that, but if the Knicks had stood pat and kept Hill (or made a batter pick) and failed to make the playoffs this year (still be a possibility if the Carmelo trade doesn’t come to fruition before the end of the season) the Knicks could have built through the draft or even used those assets to make a more favorable deal with Denver that would be less painful for both teams.

better > batter

that’s a big if. and you had to go all in for James. Now jordan hill is an asset?

Who knows how this turns out, but it very well could be a situation where denver agrees to move him to NY and gets back a decent package.

Of course Hill is an asset and if he was a Knick you’d still think so lol. Whether he should have been picked that high is for Walsh to answer, but I think he’s an NBA player.

For Denver to get a “decent package” that doesn’t include draft picks (1st round) I think the Knicks will have to give up a lot.

I know a lot of people are annoyed about the Jeffries trade, but it really had to be done. It gave us a shot at signing arguably the best player in the NBA, and the sidekick of his choice. Did it work out? No. But they had to try. Also, its not like we gave up all that much. We gave up Hill, who didn’t show much and we replaced with Randolph, a 2012 first rounder (which will probably be a late pick and we could just buy one anyway), and the option to swap 1st rounders which won’t even hurt us if we make the playoffs which should happen. We also ended up using all of the cap space. If I thought Hill was going to be a great player, then I would be upset. But he didn’t really look like a future star last year, and its not like he is a minimum salary player. He is making around 3 mil per year.

I understand that melo has to approve of an extension. My point is that I think he would approve of that deal because he would be able to play in NY in two years and still be competative, plus the Nets would have cap space next summer.

Why no Amare? We had enough for a max FA before that trade so yes Amare would of been here. Felton yea no Felton because we over paid for him but he is nether hear nor there.

Easy Tommy, I think you do a great job.

I just want to know how to avoid “moderation”.

goodjob,BLACK.

MAGOO gets praised for what exactly.LMAO…

felton is garbage
amare never been a leader
so if gallo,ant-ran,chandler,t-doug doesn’t step it up the knicks heading into the lottery an houston will be checking how the knicks doin an if by the deadline the knicks got a bad record houston will package that pick for the rite trade.

the knicks will be contenders when
DOLAN IS GONE
A GOOD COACH COMES IN
AN THEY GET A GOOD CENTER S.G OR P.G.

If we had picks, maybe DW wouldn’t have to compensate with extra players (in a hypothetical trade) but that’s out of the question, which is why, in a lot of people’s eyes, the reason why this team doesn’t have the best chance shoud Denver look for a trade and why they’re putting teams like NJ, Clips, SAC and Houston as better positioned.

Despite my feelings on the trade (I was against it for the more fact that we were giving youth away along with the chance of swapping picks + more), if my math serves me right it was that trade that allowed us to get Felton after DW resigned Lee to get AR, Buike and Turiaf, so at least something positive (at least on paper) came out of it.

So we gave up a young big man, a 1st round draft pick, a swap of 1st rounders and 7-8 million for Felton?

I guess that’s a positive.

i try to get 1 question from everyone. it’s not easy. most questions are redundant. if i missed one I apologize.

we overpaid for felton?

no one complained about sitting down with lebron. we all knew it HAD to happen. our first rounder in 12 would be low mid 20s. Big deal…if we win.

Great chat, Tommy!

I hate to bring up LBJ, but I came across an interesting take on the LeBron aftermath on The Howard Stern Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8wjDoQVV5o&feature=related

I wasn’t thrilled with the trade when it happened, but I understand the reasoning behind it. It was a hail Mary for Lebron + another max.

Can’t look as it as a trade for Felton. It was a trade for a better shot at hitting the FA jackpot. Donnie gambled lost, simple as that. Felton was just damage control.

I agree with that one. Favorable contract on guaranteed years, but Ridnour’s was $4M per for 4.

“Can’t look as it as a trade for Felton.”

If we can’t look at it as a trade for Felton we definitely shouldn’t look at it as a trade for Randolph, yet a lot of people do.

I think they overpaid in order to convince him to agree to a shorter contract with the team option, but I would say it is a little steep at 8 mil per.

Yea I dont see why he is making what he makes because statistically he is not that far off from Delonte West.

PPG APG RPG SPG 3P% PTS REB AST
10.0 3.7 3.1 1.1 .373

Raymond Felton

PPG APG SPG
12.1 5.6 1.5

So yea he is an over paid average guard IMO.

*yawn*

I pretty much agree with everything you said TD.

If the Knicks don’t aquire Melo I think we should throw A LOT of money for Horford.

Don’t be so simplistic.

If the Knicks don’t have enough capspace to sign 2 mac FA’s, the Knicks must wait until LeBron makes his “Decision” to offer Amar’e Stoudemire a max contract.

The Knicks would’ve battled with the Nets and some other teams (Bulls?) for Amar’e Stoudemire and nobody knows what Ama’re decision would’ve been.

Excellent point mucha.

Felton + Mason + Mosgov
Like I said before, at least it’s something positive, on paper = still to be translated into very positive, which is what I’m hoping for.
And like I also stated, I was against the trade.
Like the Stones said, you don’t always get what you want.

I know you’re a big Horford supporter, but can he really play alongside Amare at the 5 better than Melo?
Now that’s an interesting discussion, since it appears Melo might no gel into the “system”.

You’re right, we shouldn’t

The Knicks had the best deal on the table. A 5 year max contract fully guaranteed, with no performance/games played requirements. No other franchise could afford to offer a player that type of contract without being able to insure those knees. Maybe Chicago, but Reinsdorf has proven he’s not that type of owner.

I don’t think there is any way the Hawks let Horford walk. He is a top 3 C in the East, even though he is playing out of position. Even if we offered him a max deal, they would probably match it.

I like Horford, but why would the Knicks want to acquire another PF who doesn’t want to play C with Amar’e on the payroll?

I’d rather try to through the money at Noah. I think Horford is a huge beneficiary of having Josh Smith help him in the front court. I’m not sure Amar’e would have the same effect.

Exactly where I was going with that question.

The Knicks had the best deal on the table because they had enough capspace to sign 2 max FA’s.

No other could afford to offer a player that type of contract? Whut? Don’t tell me the Nets didn’t want to “stick it to the Knicks” and show that they were serious with the “blueprint for greatness” by signing Amar’e Stoudemire instead of Johan Petro, Jordan Farmar and Travis Outlaw!

lol, i just find it funny how little they know about sports…

Who cares about what Horford wants to do, he’s an All-Star center already.

If he REALLY doesn’t want to play C then he won’t sign the offer sheet.

Why?

I’m not sure I would put Horford in the top 5 in the east.

Dwight
Bogut
Lopez
Noah
Bargnani
Horford

Simple and direct. Agreed.

Amar’e is an inconsistent defender at best. Josh Smith is one of the best in the game

Throw>through

Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

It’s not that the Nets couldn’t afford it under their cap, they couldn’t afford to take the chance to be playing a player who’s knees might explode to then have him sitting out collecting checks from the team. Especially with a new owner.

I would definitely put him ahead of Bargnani and Noah, but I would probably put him behind Howard, Bogut, and Lopez. Personally, I think Noah is very overrated and Bargnani doesn’t play any defense. I know I said top 3, but I’m gonna change it to 4th best in the East.

“Who cares about what Horford wants to do, he’s an All-Star center already.”

If you haven’t noticed the Hawks have gone out of their way to try to bring in a big man to help move him to his natural position.

BTW, I didn’t even support the trade at the time, but I don’t think it was an awful move all things considered.

Clearly the Knicks had the right idea in terms of cutting cap space to try and offer Lebron a chance to play with some running mates. They just weren’t able to cut as much as Riley and the Heat.

And again, all things considered with how the team looks now, I don’t think it was such an awful trade. It could still just end up being Jordan Hill and a late 1st round pick, which really isn’t giving up much at all.

Because Horford’s a very good defender, I think he would be a huge plus for Amar’e.

Stern does make a good point, as much as I don’t particularly care for him as a radio personality.

Here’s my list :

Dwight
Bogut
Horford
Lopez
Noah
Bargnani

I’d probably put Horford as the 3rd best center in the East behind Dwight and Bogut. Lopez can easily jump ahead of him if he shows he can be part of a halfway decent team.

I think Horford is weaksauce offensively. He has next to nothing in terms of a postgame. But defensively he’s 2nd to only Dwight Howard imo.

I would pay Horford around 10 million per year, but I wouldn’t want to pay more for someone with no offensive game.

Yeah its pretty much a tie between Horford and Lopez for me, but I would probably take Lopez because he is a true C and I think he is going to get better. Howard and Bogut are the clear #1 and #2.

I think you’re 100% wrong HaS.

So Jordan Farmar, Travis Outlaw and Johan Petro > Amar’e Stoudemire from the Nets perspective because of his kneess???

Then why didn’t we use our capspace to sign Farmar, Outlaw and Petro? Why did the Knicks rush to sign Amar’e Stoudemire?

You can’t be serious, the Nets WANTED to make a big splash in FA and Amar’e Stoudemire was widely considered one of the best power forwards in the NBA (2nd All-NBA team with no power forward in the the 1st All-NBA team)!

Stop it man… you’re better than that.

4th best isn’t unreasonable but I I still put Noah ahead pushing Horford back to 5th or 6th.

For me it’s a wash between Bargnani and Horford. Despite not playing any defense, Bargnani averaged more blocks than Horford. Factor in the legit 3 point threat and Bargnani can be dangerous.

yes agreed, Howard and Bogut are clearly 1 and 2 at this point.

DS:

You think Horford is a better defender than Bogut?

“So Jordan Farmar, Travis Outlaw and Johan Petro > Amar’e Stoudemire from the Nets perspective because of his kneess???”

Uh… ok Mucha I can’t get any clearer than I just did, so please tell me where I said that.

Horfords defense is overrated, imo. I know he’s playing out of position, but Josh Smith is one of the best help defenders in the league.

I can’t put a C that doesn’t play any defense and doesn’t rebound in my top 5. For me, those are the two most important qualities that a C needs to have. Bargnani is a great scorer, but I think that all of the other guys that were mentioned are better players.

I think that before the season is over, McGee could very well pass Horford, Noah, and Bargnani. That kid is going to be good.

Mucha does have a point though HaS…It’s not like Prokhorov as one of the richest men in the world would be afraid of paying Amare too much because of uninsured knees right?

And I mean, between Morrow, Farmar, Petro, and Outlaw that’s still a boatload of money for mostly bench players.

I understand not wanting to commit a lot of money to one player with balky knees, but not in the Nets particular circumstance with Prokhorov clearly wanting to make a splash. Definitely I could understand that argument from other small market teams with cheap owners in similar situation to Sarver in PHX.

Yes, I do CircleLimit. I could understand you disagreeing with me in that Bogut is a true center who has the size to block and alter shots, but I think Horford is a great post defender who because of his quickness can also switch off and help on guards too. He’s a great rebounder also.

I just don’t see any weaknesses in his defensive game. He reminds me of Ben Wallace but not as dominant defensively and slightly better offensively.

@Dylan

I’m With you on McGee, I’ve been big on him since he was drafted. His defense is there, he just needs to get some post moves. I think it can be done considering his pedigree. He’s got a ways to go though.

@ DS Like I was saying below. I think Horford benefits from having a great help defender in Josh Smith. Not saying Horford is a bad defender, just a bit overrated, imo.

I want to see Mozgov be as good as Noah. Mozgov does remind me of Noah because he is limited on offense but effective on defense. Lopez (suns), Gasol, Noah, and Perkins all have the same type of game. Strong in the middle on defense and gets all the garbage buckets on offense. I am sure if Mozgov gets the playing time he can be an effective center on a playoff team. I want to see him be a starter on this team along side Amare by next season. He should have no trouble feeling comfortable in NY because the Russian population is strong in NYC.

If that was the case why did the Nets or Bulls or whoever make the push for him when we where? Come on nothing happens in secret on that level. IMO nobody wanted to offer him the max including his own PHX team. We offered him the max so we would not lose him to other teams offering the 80mil that im sure that was out there, so it was a sign on for the max now and lets go or its off the table type deal.

As a team coming off 12 wins and in a small market they were going to have to overpay whoever came over, but I think they would rather take a chance on a young guy who could have a breakout year rather than a guy who is entering his prime and looking to win now max money on an uninsurable contract.

Maybe I’m giving Prokhorov and the people he’s got working for him (Thorn at the time) more credit than they deserve, but I seriously doubt they extend that offer.

I guarantee if the Nets had made the same signing Knicks fans would be calling them dumb for it. What happened to all those fans who didn’t want to pay Amar’e the max and thought he wasn’t better than _avi_?

Blackwood, Mucha already went into that, but because the Nets and Bulls didn’t have enough money to offer 2 max contracts, they were both stuck waiting on Lebron to make his decision. They couldn’t offer Amare the max until after Lebron made his decision and if he did go to one of them, they would then have to convince Amare to take less than the max.

To me Mozgov looks more athletic than Perkins, and Robin Lopez. If he can be a taller Noah that would be great for the Knicks.

You said the Nets “couldn’t afford to take the chance to be playing a player who’s knees might explode to then have him sitting out collecting checks from the team”

If they couldn’t afford to sign a 27 years old 2nd All-NBA player because of his knees, then I guess Jordan Farmar, Travis Outlaw, Johan Petro’s a better investment than Amar’e Stoudemire! You can’t tell me the Nets are really “satifisfied” with the players they most probably overpaid for, they WANTED to make some noise in the FA market and they didn’t. Overpaying has never been a problem for Prokhorov.

Dolan wont be gone for a while.

HaS, who’s the young guy who could have a breakout year for the Nets?

Travis Outlaw is 25 and has been in the league for 7 years now. I suppose Morrow could, but he kind of already did last year right?

While I for one have been extremely critical of Amare, I would NEVER say he wasn’t worth a max contract and that goes doubly(NEVER NEVER) insinuate that there’s no difference between him and David Lee. And c’mon man, you of all people should know that and shouldn’t suggest that lol.

While maybe the Knicks fans would make fun of the Nets for signing Amare(that’s a big maybe imo), I know for a fact that the Knicks would be the laughingstock of the league if they came away with Travis Outlaw, Johan Petro, Anthony Morrow, and Jordan Farmar this year.

It’s just different media coverage, but I have to say I find it really odd that you try and defend the Nets from what would have admittedly been a complete disaster if it happened for the Knicks, especially to you.

Fair enough, to each his own.

I’m not even defending the Nets lol, I think the Knicks were in a similar situation and that’s why I’m fine with the signing og Amar’e. They had to overpay someone in order to get anyone out of this FA. They offered Joe Johnson a max and Amar’e a max, two guys who aren’t worth the max imho, but it was necessary.

I just believe it isn’t as much of a franchise crippler if somehow Amar’e doesn’t fulfill his contract due to injury for the Knicks as it would be for the Nets.

Knicks fans’ dream backcourt just got beat.

Fernandez is trash, he’s definitely not worth the headache.

Wow Tommy good chat. That reminds me of Hahn’s chats back in the day. Wish I could have participated.

Holford would be an amazing pickup, I think he fits this system perfectly. Gasol is too lumbering for Dantoni. It is the same reason they passed on Lopez. Atlanta has some ridiculous contracts out there right now, even with Crawford coming off the books i’m not sure they resign Holford to big money unless they can move Josh Smith.

I agree with Circle here, I like Horford though.

I really don’t think Mosgov is going to be a good NBA player.

I’m reserving judgment until mid season though.

i know an thats the sadest part

He is extremely overrated.I wonder how in the world Portland came up the idea that he is more than worth a 1st round draft pick.

felton is garbage until he proves me wrong i’ll keep callin it as it is as of now.

he never had a good season on an expansion team=that where great players play big time,look at gerald wallace he took advantage of it felton been with them for 5 years an his best was 14 an 7,like i said felton as no tools he’s slow got no quickness his handle is average can’t shot an mos of all he’s BO-LEGGED.

no1 was going to give felton 7 mil not even the bobcats thats why they let him walk cuz he’s garbage.

the Nets were more all in for Lebron than we were..

they were willing to wait until Lebron made his decision before making ANY othe moves.. I think Jay Z and the Russian got played and got shown to tbe the rookie exeCs that they are..

Did the Nets even have a meeting with Amar’e? i dont remember any Nets meeting with top players other than Lebron

yo HaS u know the deal SON,respect

TD– missed the chat.. good read.. curious though..

you seem to be moderating your dogmatic support of the _’Antoni short rotation. Even stating that the “Coach” should run 10 guys out there every night — like the Suns now do.

I remember DURING the season when we have one of our many back and forths that you were full bore in support of the 7 players or less philosophy. Commenting that players “need their time on the court” and “shouldnt have to worry about being pulled” and “an NBA should be able to go 40 a night every nite no problem.

Now you seem to be a supporter of a longer rotation. Very interesting..welcome to the dark side.

felton signing is as good as the duhon signing,mason is garbage he has always been garbage he had 1 ok season with the spurs puttin up 11 pts an the russian kid is unproven no positive there..

2 real centers in that list yogurt and lopez

More athletic than Robin Lopez?

Don’t see it

“they were FORCED to wait until Lebron made his decision before making ANY othe moves”

Fixed!

why were they “forced”?

they could have easily shifted strategies and moved towards Amar’e if they felt they were that far out of the mix for Lebron.

their strategy was to use Jay Z, Brooklyn as an alternative to NY and an international playboy who thought he was a branding genius..

that’s why they threw up the blueprint billboard..

nothing “forced” then to pursue that strategy. They could have EASILY made a hard move for Amar’e to play next to Lopez and Harris.. but they made a conscious dcision to wait for Lebron.

nothing forced them to do that.

you listened to that whole thing?

wow.. i got through 15 seconds..

amazing the copyright violations going on at you tube.

LeBron James was everybody’s target because he was widely perceived as the best / 2nd best player in the NBA.

Nobody wanted to use their capspace to sign another player before knowing what LeBron James would do.

The Knicks did it because they had enough caspace to do it.

at some point Rod Thorn has to come out and give some insight into the Nets thinking during the early July period..

If Proko and Jay Z thought Amar’e was such a bargain and would “get under the skin” of his former coach then they may have pursued that strategy.

again.. they needs a PF to play next to Lopez. I expeceted them to make a hard play for David Lee as a way to get under Dolan’s skin.. instead they put up a bill board as a way to convince Lebron to come to NJ/Brooklyn.

I think they totally misread the market..

I wholely agree with HaS that if the Nets made the Amar’e signing Knicks fans would be laughing that they paid 100 mil for a player who has a bad knee and one eye.. these same people who thought Lee was a better bargain than Amar’e/

not to mention dropping the ball on the proposed CP 3 trade

The Nets scre_wed up royyaly and it shows in their roster..

we all understand that Lebron was the best player on the market..

but given what transpired in the face to face meetings and the “grape vine” information teams like the Nets should have cut bait and moved on but made a conscious decision to wait..

there was only ONE lebron (obviously) and only one team was gonna get him (obviously)

In fact,Jay Z was so convinced that the Nets were in the hunt that he went to Europe DURING the decision.. Donnie was home watching a movie while the “Coach” was on a plane.. while Riley was with his owner watching the Decision with a group at a restaurant (celebration?) .. Reinsdorf HAD TO know he was out of the “conversation” after he denied Lebron’s request to offer no show jobs to his whole posse.

from what i remember it seemed most of the teams that came in second in the Lebron-a-thon had a real good idea that where they stood.

Remember Donnie jumped all over Amar’e as a reaction to Lebron’s demands to play with another star.

What was the Net’s reaction to his request to play with another star? THey stupidly rejected the CP3 trade– so the story goes.

so who knew what?

Imo there is just too many “ifs” for a 7th or 8th seed and even some say 6th seed playoff contender. While other teams not named Boston, Orlando, Miami and Chicago are up there the Bucks have improved and the Hawks are what they are. Too many fans look for reasons why some teams might not do well instead of focusing on how good our team is and if the mismatch parts can gel together and make some noise.

Well I couldn’t care less about what Knicks homers think, they don’t affect my perception of the Knicks and the NBA in general.

There’s no reason to assume the Nets didn’t want to sign Amar’e Stoudemire. They wanted to sign a significant free agent to send a message and back up their offensive strategy. And Prokhorov has always been considered as a big spender. But they were too LeBron-dependant to do it.

Anyways, the jury is still out on the Jared Jeffries Jordan Hill 1st round draft picks trade but it was tough to swallow.

But it clearly helped us land Amar’e Stoudemire because we had enough flexibility to offer him a max contract regardless of LeBron’s decision. Which is the point that I tried to make.

“you listened to that whole thing?”

LOL

Skimmed. The LeBron comments last only a couple minutes.

“amazing the copyright violations going on at you tube.”

Right?! Which is why they want to start charging people to use the internet. Crazy thing is it’s not free now.

Celtics sign Delonte West?

Whoa.

i knew the celtics was going tooooooo.
good for them

BTW who is the Knicks’ backup point guard? That wa another question I asked on the chat that got lost in the sauce.

Chill you’re not the center of the world lol.

I see you never tried to partipate in Hahn’s chats 2 years ago – questions were like lottery balls 1 time out of 10 you would get an answer lol.

Chill…

I like it but they need a defensive SF more than anything.

thing that blows me away about google / u tube is they have the audacity to prohibit third parties from reporting copyright violations.

and they make content creators jump through hoops to get stuff pulled off the site.. going as far as requiring a LETTER ONLY from the content owner before removing stolen content.

they should burn for that. and GOOG is one of the largest co’s in today’s economy.

SMFH

(No offense)

i’d agree but then TD put through HaS’s that’s whack (or what ever) comment without issue..

some of the questions were useless and repetitive but that’s chats.

i can answer the back up PG question as TD would.. he would say Toney Douglas will excel as the back up PG.

Im gonna guess Toney Douglas. I think he’s a fine backup pg honestly.

i never much cared for participating in live chats anyway.. seems a waste of time and i could recite most of Tommy’s answer’s anyway — just from reading his posts.. and anticipating he “company line/ (no shots of course)

but they are good to skim through i guess.

i really hope t-doug is working on his p.g skills,he’s a good guard coming off the bench,i also think if he gets consistent minutes he can be in the running for 6th man

plus half the questions read like a 12 year old slumber party.

Well we do have Chandler, Randolph and Gallo to fill that defensive sf spot.

sounds like D-miles might get a look

Celtics

+1 I like Toney Douglas coming off the bench.

He’s not a pass-first point guard but he can handle and pass the basketball as long as he’s not being asked to play as a distributor. Felton will most likely play 35mpg so he doesn’t have too much pressure on him.

I’m not a chat-guy (whatever that means lol) either.

I hope he’s told to embrace his strengths a little more this year (Toney) rather than keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Once he’s more aggressive and can make defenses react he may find easier/simpler passes to make.

I still think it’s a mistake not having another true point guard on the roster even it’s an aging vet.

Enough Enough Enough with the what if trade scenarios! Get a life peoples! Don’t you guys get tired of the BS speculations? Dang! We WAIT and don’t give a hoot what other teams may offer got nuttin to do with DW! We wait!

LOL

I wasn’t complaining Mucha, relax. Just thought I’d bring it up for others to discuss since West just signed. Although he’s not a true point guard he does have better skills in that department than Douglas. If they bring in an aging pass first vet it wouldn’t jeopardize his job.

A baller knows a baller! Landry Fields can become the rookie of the year if he get minutes, which I believe he will due to others not stepping up or injuries!

Adding a veteran point guard wouldn’t hurt (I agree with you) but the Knicks can’t coddle Toney Douglas and let him make mistakes because they have a 3rd guard who’s capable of distributing the basketball. TD must be encouraged to face his responsabilities.

I want him to play as a scoring point guard and make simple passes as you said.

I didn’t mean to say it in an offensive manner, I don’t need to relax I’m cool!

i agree HaS,t-doug if he let’s him be him he can be what terry was for dallas for years now

“Landry Fields can become the rookie of the year if he get minutes”

LMAO

I think you just took the crown from DVJ for the most hilarious comment ever.

There is absolutely no way in hell that Landry Fields even gets one vote for ROY unless he’s allowed to vote himself.

Wall, Cousins or Turner. Period. A whole lot of players (and the Knicks) would have to have a terrible season in order for Fields to even get modest consideration for ROY.

Yea it is pretty incredible lol.

Google is huge.

I’ve watched countless documentaries for “free” there. I don’t know how they’re going to clean it up, but I’d hate to pay more than what I already pay for an internet connection in order to actually use the internet lol. Makes no sense to me for the consumer to pay twice.

You mean a bowling baller? lol come on man Wall damn near has that on smash!! As of right now there is no forward other then walker that I would take mins from to give to this dude!

Celtics are stacking up!! They going for one more and aint trying to let the 3 queens stop em! Between the Heat,Celtics,Bulls & Magic beating the crap out of each other Kobe is just sitting back laughing all the way to another championship!! lol

What was it that 50cent said….”Why dont yall get together and make a we are the world record about me” lol

BTW jay-Z makes ZERO decision on the nets!! lol he is a shill he owns 1% lmaoo basically lifetime court side seats thats all!!! It’s like saying tiger woods owns buick!! lol

big- i believe thorn did give his take…he bounced to Philly….

with phil jax on the sidelines and the same team i can see a 3peat but i think the celtics winning it all aside from injures etc.

just like how jayz owned rocawear,lmao.

Tiger woods owns 1% of Buick?

Oh and Griffin for the Clippers, if he has a strong year he may even get a look for ROY.

Fields… LMAO.

Ridiculous.

I don’t think a second rounder has ever won ROY. Can I get a confirm on that?

Considering some of the other ridiculous deals that happened early in the summer, no he is not overpaid, and they only signed him for 2 years. So I would say no.

You didn’t mean to say I’m “not the center of the world in an offensive way”?

Oh ok lol.

Nah your post looked like a paranoid reaction like “hey you didn’t even answer my questions in the chat” I was just trying to tell you that you can’t expect to have all your questions answered since you’re not the center of the world! Nobody is! It’s all good!