Where Are You on Mike D’Antoni?

HELL NO

it’s sad that alot of people said yes

Lol.. Should be good..

NO NO NO

Not exactly worded like the Donnie poll though

Would you like to see Donnie return vs does mike deserve To return

Political polling 101

nope

We have the touch screen voting here in my district. The machines are misleading.

good point

interesting, i coulda swore like at least 80% of the commenters wouldve said no

Where are YOU on Mike _’antoni, Tommy?

How long until one of the DDS Crew hacks the poll?

he won’t be able to say HaS why are u puttin TOMMY on the hot seat want him to lose access to training camp etc

those are people that read the blog i bet

In your opinion and in as many words as you so choose, what needs to happen for the Knicks to win an NBA title?

I’ll give him the first half of next season

I’m somewhat stunned. I thought my vote for D’Antoni would have put me in a small, exclusive club.

D’Antoni in the lead!

Whodathunkit?

They need to work on not having the worst PG/C combo in the NBA. Then they need at least one reliable bench contributor.

At that point you’ll have a point if they don’t win a playoff series. Come back to me then.

Tommy is invoking the fifth ammendment.

The silent majority are voting.

Mike D’Antoni is the equivalent of a pitcher with a plus fastball and no off speed pitches. He needs to go!

The way it’s worded made me vote no. I don’t think anyone deserves anything ya know, nobody should feel entitled to something. He will be back if a better option doesn’t present itself

The way it’s worded made me vote no. I don’t think anyone deserves anything ya know, nobody should feel entitled to something. He will be back if a better option doesn’t present itself

So who is the option at PG? Like I have said earlier and will go on record here again. I honestly don’t think the on-court difference between Billups and say, a guy like Felton, is 7 million dollars. I wasn’t crazy about Billups taking the shots he did but I am a fan of his leadership and experience. I am also a fan of anyone at PG other than Toney Douglas, which would be a disaster for the Knicks next season. Again, I do not think that is worth 14.2 million. I think it’s a little foolish to dismiss someone who performed like he did earlier in the season and who has his pedigree because of his age, but that’s just my opinion. I also don’t think having him as a starting PG will lose you a championship, but that is all immaterial.

That being said, who’s the guy if not Billups?

So who is the option at PG? Like I have said earlier and will go on record here again. I honestly don’t think the on-court difference between Billups and say, a guy like Felton, is 7 million dollars. I wasn’t crazy about Billups taking the shots he did but I am a fan of his leadership and experience. I am also a fan of anyone at PG other than Toney Douglas, which would be a disaster for the Knicks next season. Again, I do not think that is worth 14.2 million. I think it’s a little foolish to dismiss someone who performed like he did earlier in the season and who has his pedigree because of his age, but that’s just my opinion. I also don’t think having him as a starting PG will lose you a championship, but that is all immaterial.

That being said, who’s the guy if not Billups?

rfom his recent blog posts sounds like he’s coming off the fence to the dark side.

rfom his recent blog posts sounds like he’s coming off the fence to the dark side.

My thing is, we don’t need an offensive “genius” as a coach. We have players who can put the ball in the basket, what we need is a coach that is going to stress defense. Sounds simple, and I know all the rebuttals, but if we can’t stop the P&R there’s little hope for us as far as stopping the harder plays, like players coming off down screens/double screen, knowing when to shoot the gap, knowing when to double the post, things of that nature.

I see teams with just as much or less talent getting the job done every day, they may not be winning championships, but defense is being played & (enough) points are being scored. Might not be scoring 107 points but a win is a win.

Mike didn’t want a D-coordinator in PHX & I doubt he wants one now, he’s a stubborn guy, and I’m just ready for a new look. Be it a vet or someone on the come up, I’m just looking for a new, defensive minded coach.

So, in short, No I don’t want D’Antoni back.

My thing is, we don’t need an offensive “genius” as a coach. We have players who can put the ball in the basket, what we need is a coach that is going to stress defense. Sounds simple, and I know all the rebuttals, but if we can’t stop the P&R there’s little hope for us as far as stopping the harder plays, like players coming off down screens/double screen, knowing when to shoot the gap, knowing when to double the post, things of that nature.

I see teams with just as much or less talent getting the job done every day, they may not be winning championships, but defense is being played & (enough) points are being scored. Might not be scoring 107 points but a win is a win.

Mike didn’t want a D-coordinator in PHX & I doubt he wants one now, he’s a stubborn guy, and I’m just ready for a new look. Be it a vet or someone on the come up, I’m just looking for a new, defensive minded coach.

So, in short, No I don’t want D’Antoni back.

The results refute the,”This Blog Hates D’Antoni Theory.” LOL.

I’m stunned too.

Amazing, I’m in awe of how naive so many NY fans are.

I bet most who are in favor of _’antoni returning as “coach” believe that Ama_’e and Carmelo are incapable of playing defense so why try (smh).

Or that the cure to fixing the team defense is just getting _’antoni players that can shoot from three (to preserve his spacing) at every position who are also excellent defenders.

Or that defense is not all that important and if we can just have a number one offense and score the most points in the league we can overcome a matador defense.

I guess we’ll just have to waste a year to find out once and for all who’s right.

most rational fans just read the blog and ignore the comments since they became the equivalent of sport radio callers.

most rational fans just read the blog and ignore the comments since they became the equivalent of sport radio callers.

I don’t think it’s the best idea to switch coaches constantly. We have seen the result of that. I do like stability.
BUT it gets SO frustrating to watch the decisions he makes.
Sometimes we just sit there saying WTF??

I don’t think it’s the best idea to switch coaches constantly. We have seen the result of that. I do like stability.
BUT it gets SO frustrating to watch the decisions he makes.
Sometimes we just sit there saying WTF??

All i can say is as of this moment.

There are 121 people who just do not know basketball

OR

Are just plain retarded.

Billups is THAT BAD on defense and THAT BAD at operating this offense. He can’t up the tempo at all, he freezes out Amare, and he chucks horrific shots like its his job.

Tell Toney Douglas he’s the PG and come into camp with that intention and he’s better

Sign Ridnour and he’s better

Sign TJ Ford and he’s better

I guess we can’t call this FireDantoniBlog.com anymore huh?

I guess we can’t call this FireDantoniBlog.com anymore huh?

LOL. Exactly.

LOL. Exactly.

Aside…

Just watching the bulls vs pacers game. Sometimes I wonder if some commentators know what they talk about. First, Granger isn’t a player that can create his own shot? Second, Noah can guard any point guard off the pick and roll?

I don’t know..really do not agree with what Kerr said.

Aside…

Just watching the bulls vs pacers game. Sometimes I wonder if some commentators know what they talk about. First, Granger isn’t a player that can create his own shot? Second, Noah can guard any point guard off the pick and roll?

I don’t know..really do not agree with what Kerr said.

“Tell Toney Douglas he’s the PG and come into camp with that intention and he’s better” (what was he told when he came into camp this season? You realize we had no backup all season other than him right?)

LOL

“Sign Ridnour and he’s better” (HE is “THAT BAD” on defense)

LMAO

“Sign TJ Ford and he’s better” (and you think Billups is injury prone?)

ROTFLMAO

“Tell Toney Douglas he’s the PG and come into camp with that intention and he’s better” (what was he told when he came into camp this season? You realize we had no backup all season other than him right?)

LOL

“Sign Ridnour and he’s better” (HE is “THAT BAD” on defense)

LMAO

“Sign TJ Ford and he’s better” (and you think Billups is injury prone?)

ROTFLMAO

I disagree that Toney Douglas is ready to run an offense. I think it’s fair if you assume that if Billups is that bad at operating the offense, then having another combo guard and one who really struggled when put into that spot this year, is as bad if not worse. Billups has certainly lost a step defensively. Doesn’t he deserve the same respect of being thrown into another team’s system with no time to practice it and isn’t it especially difficult when Melo and Amar’e seem to struggle coexisting on offense? It is logical to me that he would get the ball to Melo over Amar’e since he just played with him. Do you think he’d improve with a chance to work with both of them during the offseason?

Ridnour has greatly improved from what he used to be on defense. You’re entitled to your opinion there, however.

I don’t think TJ Ford can be moved from 18 minutes per game (previously from obscurity) to be a starting point guard of this offense.

I disagree that Toney Douglas is ready to run an offense. I think it’s fair if you assume that if Billups is that bad at operating the offense, then having another combo guard and one who really struggled when put into that spot this year, is as bad if not worse. Billups has certainly lost a step defensively. Doesn’t he deserve the same respect of being thrown into another team’s system with no time to practice it and isn’t it especially difficult when Melo and Amar’e seem to struggle coexisting on offense? It is logical to me that he would get the ball to Melo over Amar’e since he just played with him. Do you think he’d improve with a chance to work with both of them during the offseason?

Ridnour has greatly improved from what he used to be on defense. You’re entitled to your opinion there, however.

I don’t think TJ Ford can be moved from 18 minutes per game (previously from obscurity) to be a starting point guard of this offense.

“Tell Toney Douglas he’s the PG and come into camp with that intention and he’s better

Sign Ridnour and he’s better

Sign TJ Ford and he’s better”

I usually just disagree with your opinion, but these suggestions are just absurd.

i guess there was no correlation from should have winning games 1 and 2 to getting destroyed without billups in 3 and 4 until a late comeback in 4

LMFAO

LMFAO

A friend of mine made the ridiculous argument that the entire team’s bad defense was Melo’s fault, not D’Antoni’s, because Melo has bad body language. It was one of those times I felt like I was in an alternate universe.

NYC fans are not that smart; it’s just one of those silly cliches.

A friend of mine made the ridiculous argument that the entire team’s bad defense was Melo’s fault, not D’Antoni’s, because Melo has bad body language. It was one of those times I felt like I was in an alternate universe.

NYC fans are not that smart; it’s just one of those silly cliches.

Draft a PG and sign a C. Big men take time to develop but guards can have impact immediately. Plus D’Antoni is much more likely to play a veteran 5 v a young one, and a quicker, younger, Billups-in-training PG v an older one (Carter).

Dalembert (probably too expensive)
Reggie Evans
Kwame Brown (don’t laugh. he’s obviously not #1 pick material, but he’s a big good defender and rebounder. he has a place of positive value in this league if used properly, ie next to Stat & Melo)
Jason Collins
AK-47?!?

These are guys that would fit nicely at C on next year’s team. Stat has publicly asked for one (again) so D’Antoni can’t deny him that and force him into the 5.

Dalembert/Evans/Brown
Stat
Melo
Fields
Billups
—————
TD
Turiaf
Rookie PG
Shawne Williams
Jerome Jordan
Walker

Draft a PG and sign a C. Big men take time to develop but guards can have impact immediately. Plus D’Antoni is much more likely to play a veteran 5 v a young one, and a quicker, younger, Billups-in-training PG v an older one (Carter).

Dalembert (probably too expensive)
Reggie Evans
Kwame Brown (don’t laugh. he’s obviously not #1 pick material, but he’s a big good defender and rebounder. he has a place of positive value in this league if used properly, ie next to Stat & Melo)
Jason Collins
AK-47?!?

These are guys that would fit nicely at C on next year’s team. Stat has publicly asked for one (again) so D’Antoni can’t deny him that and force him into the 5.

Dalembert/Evans/Brown
Stat
Melo
Fields
Billups
—————
TD
Turiaf
Rookie PG
Shawne Williams
Jerome Jordan
Walker

I’m surprised LOL. Only the commentors dislike D’antoni.

Nice wording by Tommy there.

Keeping MD will allow Melo to be the scapegoat, as when we lose again it will be “What can Mike do, he doesn’t play defense, we never should have made the trade” crap.

Hopefully Mike proves me wrong next year. Go Knicks!

FisolaNYDN Still trying to figure out how some in media interpreted Melo’s evasive comments about D’Antoni as him endorsing the coach.

FisolaNYDN I did hear Chauncey Billups endorse Larry Brown and I heard Melo endorse himself as a de facto GM. But Melo endorse Mike. Never happened
about 3 hours ago

FisolaNYDN Still trying to figure out how some in media interpreted Melo’s evasive comments about D’Antoni as him endorsing the coach.

FisolaNYDN I did hear Chauncey Billups endorse Larry Brown and I heard Melo endorse himself as a de facto GM. But Melo endorse Mike. Never happened
about 3 hours ago

I’m less than satisfied with D’antoni therefore I voted NO, I don’t think he is “deserving” of a return.

However, I’m not 100% opposed to seeing him coach a MeloMire squad with a full training camp under their belt as long a defensive specialist is added to coaching staff.

I’m less than satisfied with D’antoni therefore I voted NO, I don’t think he is “deserving” of a return.

However, I’m not 100% opposed to seeing him coach a MeloMire squad with a full training camp under their belt as long a defensive specialist is added to coaching staff.

If the wording was Do you want d’antoni to return what would be your response?

Does he deserve to come back – probably. I think any coach should deserve the chance to coach a team for a full year. Should he be brought back – nope. In game adjustments and lack of attention to defensive schemes just don’t make him a good fit here. Sometimes life just isn’t fair, he should get what he doesn’t deserve – let go.

Steve Kerr is kind of a dumbass, and he absolutely ruined the Suns… but let’s not go there…

Steve Kerr is kind of a dumbass, and he absolutely ruined the Suns… but let’s not go there…

It doesn’t make sense to change coaches THIS year, with the lockout looming and all the roster upheaval. Suffering through those first 2 years earned D’Antoni the chance at 1 full season with a real roster. MUCH better coaching options will probably be available AFTER next season anyway, unless Donnie wants Adleman now instead (which I highly doubt).

It doesn’t make sense to change coaches THIS year, with the lockout looming and all the roster upheaval. Suffering through those first 2 years earned D’Antoni the chance at 1 full season with a real roster. MUCH better coaching options will probably be available AFTER next season anyway, unless Donnie wants Adleman now instead (which I highly doubt).

Frank Isola used to get his ass kicked in school. We can all agree on this, right?

Frank Isola used to get his ass kicked in school. We can all agree on this, right?

i feel guilty but i voted yes. Only for one more season though.

I tried to be as unbiased as possible. If Walsh returns and he gets a Center D’antoni is satisfied with, I say bring him back for one more season.

Would you mind finishing our discussion down below?

Would you mind finishing our discussion down below?

“I bet most who are in favor of _’antoni returning as “coach” believe that Ama_’e and Carmelo are incapable of playing defense so why try (smh).”

This to me is the biggest joke on the blog. Probably the worst apologist reply on the blog. These people usually glorify the defense of Chandler and Gallinari, whose lockdown defense led us to 22nd overall in the league.

its amazing how you consistently make the internet stupider.

its amazing how you consistently make the internet stupider.

LMAO this is a joke right?

Douglas will never be a PG, Ridnour is a backup, and Ford is the third PG in Indiana. Comon!

The Knicks (when healthy) are stacked on offense, and will only get better after they make some acquisitions over the offseason. Why the hell do they need a coach that preaches offense? We need a coach that knows how to coach defense–plain and simple

You can go either way draft a C and sign a pg. Big men take time to develop but what exactly are the Knicks expecting out of a C? Is it to have an array of post moves or just play D and grab boards getting put backs. I do not think it doesn’t take much for a C to box out and clog the paint.

It’s two different questions. He deserves to be back. He hadn’t had a fair shot yet to prove himself here. But there will be those who just think he’s not the right coach and will say he doesn’t deserve to be back. But to me I dont know how I can say that he isn’t the right coach if he hasn’t had a real chance to prove himself.

or people who simply have a different opinion than yours. who would have thought? some of you d’antoni haters are just as bad as the supporters you hold such disdain over.

Not everyone that reads comments. The readers are voting.

And anyone that wants to argue that judging from the defense the Knicks played in Boston that Dantoni has some capability to coach defense is an idiot. The only reason the Knicks were able to defend the celtics well is because they were able to play off of rondo on the pick and roll. The knicks are the worst pick and roll guarding team I have EVER seen, and by staying off of rondo and giving him the jump shot, they were able to not guard the pick and roll. However, there aren’t any other teams in the NBA that they will play like that.

To quote Will Munny “Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it.”

Another thing I find interesting is how this time last year Knicks fans were very quick to point out D’antoni as a positive while the Knicks were chasing Lebron and company. All we heard from fans was how players should come here, they love D’antoni, love the system, etc.

But now that we have the stars, and dont need the system as a selling point, fans are ready to kick the guy to the curb since he didnt make a deep run after having a team together for 30 games.

I guess now we know why you simply stick to snarky remarks.

I don’t know did he? Seems like that sarcastic kid that talked the most sh** who would always be in fights and lose in high school.

WTF? That’s how the Celtics have been played for three years…

u mean like NAC

Thanks for disputing anything I said.

Let me guess, you fall into one of those categories?

Wow I’m shocked by the results of the poll! I would have guessed 65-70% would be against him returning. I guess a lot of people who don’t comment voted. Cause going off the comments on this blog, it doesn’t really make sense.

How did you vote?

Despite what many say, Isola has taken it to a new level. He has gotten at everyone with no holding back. It’s easy to sit on a fence and then get after someone when everything becomes evident.

i’m not even judging from how they did in the playoffs. I’m judging from how the team played pre and post trade. Dantoni is the must stubborn coach I have ever seen. There are so many things little things that if he made adjustments, the knicks would be much better. For example, the way they guard the pick and roll. Also, the man REFUSES to foul when the knicks are up 3 witha few second left, and the knicks have lost a BUNCH of games because of that. The Knicks SUCKED on defense even before the trade. I think the only reason players like dantoni is because the guy is a bitch and doesn’t make players play defense.

Chauncey Billups played in Game 2? Was this game airing on the DDS Network?

Then how come you read the comments?

Lol true. Though I assume there are fewer comments on here that are under the influence of alcohol than those of sports talk radio.

It seems like every caller (especially after 5pm) submits is a jumbled veriation of the statement below.

“Uhhhh hey, _______ Ummm love the show, just wanted to say that and uhhhhh, so I think umm player x is a friggin’ bum and uhhhhh team y is just terrible. (insert superfluous and agonizingly redundant ramblings of aforementioned premise which ultimately devolve down to…)…. Uhhhh, so uhhhhhhhh yeah…. your thoughts?”

Still waiting.

So what anyway? Dolan is not going to pay two coaches when there’s a lockout looming. No way D’Antoni is fired anytime soon (as disappointing as that is for many of us).

Voted Yes…This is his do-or-die year though..Get a center and plug in the holes as best as possible..give him a full training camp with the squad..

Despite the wording of the poll, I had to go with “NO”, because I think he needs to be released, regardless of how deserved it is.

This is actually about as close to how I feel as I could describe. The word “deserve” is a bit strong in the poll question.

If he brought in some defensive minded coaches to help him out, I’d actually be ok with letting him get the last year. But Herb is like…idk but he can’t be fired(does he have a 20 year contract or something?) & His Brother isn’t going anywhere.

Some people want him fired Just based off wins & losses, but It’s just really frustrating as a fan watching your team (pre-post trade) look clueless on one end of the floor. Then there’s the little things (Moz,AR,AC/minutes, JJ late game, inbound plays, Shawne on D12, Shawne/Will at the 5, etc)

Both Walsh and D’Antoni had an opportunity in the last three years to acquire, draft and develop a center. Walsh brought in guys and to date D’Antoni sees fit to use various small and power forwards at the center position. He treats the position as a DH.

Mike isn’t adding a defensive coordinator. He already ignored that request in Pho, and implied that he wouldn’t here. So get that ish outta here.

He most likely will be given his chance. Lets see what he can do. But if this team comes out and doesn’t play defense and I See posts blaming the players I will scream. Carmelo and Amare are both athletic enough to play solid defense and it’s up to MD to get them too. Do you let your kids not do their homework because they don’t want to? No, you crack the whip and make them. He failed to do that with the old team and now with this one. With Mike I will expect 50 wins and homecourt in the first round.

I also expect top 5 in offense (he is an offensive guru of course) and at least top 15 defensively, because their is enough athleticism to do it. No exceptions. You can say the defense sucked because we didn’t have a legit center but then explain Adelmans top 5 defensive rockets with Chuck effing Hayes as the bug man.

Hopefully MD proves me wrong but I’ll hope he has an epiphany. Im tired of losing. What will his excuse be next year?

What many people fail to understand is that this Knick organization is a BUSINESS. It is not FAIR to fire D’Antoni but it is clearly logical. If you own a restaurant and you have the best and most expensive Lobster and shrimp straight from the sea why would you have some average Chef preparing the food? D’Antoni has proven to be the worse coach in the playoffs. The question should be DO KNICK FANS DESERVE TO WATCH D’ANTONI COACH ANOTHER FULL SEASON OF HIS RECKLESS 7 SEC OR LESS SYSTEM?

I do think he DESERVES another chance but if I’m paying HIGH prices to watch the Knicks play at MSG I DESERVE to watch a HIGH quality coached basketball game. I would take any coach in the playoffs now over D’Antoni and if they are not available you can give me Mike Brown, Pat Ewing, Lawrence Frank, or Marc Jackson.

I’m not sure what you’re asking about

SMH I guess you guys aren’t tired of everyone and their mom saying “THE KNICKS DON’T PLAY DEFENSE” I AM SICK OF THAT SH*T

I wanted to stay away from the haterz in here but …It is like a car wreck and I cant help but look.
I can only assume that the pro coach folks ( of which I am one ) must be a silent majority as the poll clearly shows .. well as of this writing anyway.

The donnie bashing included… as his poll was in favor of retaining him also.

There is a year left on this coach’s contract and if donnie returns, I do not see how coach does not. So lets get over the bashing and look forward to the draft and hopefully no work stoppage.. as dim a chance as that looks we can hope there is no stoppage.

Give donnie another draft and summer to install the rest of the pieces and then give coach a training camp and a season with the same group to sink or swim.

We all know about the defensive issues but lets get some bigs in here that rebound and defend the paint and I would assume that the team defense will improve. You can install any coach u want but if you do not have the players coaching means squat.

This coach took on a crap situation with the promise of lebiitch at the end ..well that didn’t happen, and job 1, was to inflate his players into tradeable assets. The pre trade team was competitive and fun team to watch with out a doubt.

But this team now is a pg and a center from being a real contender so lets see if we can ” Do This “

Exactly! I’m OK with our record this year. But its the play calling at the end of games, his inability to make adjustments, his refusal to play a C, his lack of commitment to defense, and his tendency to randomly bench players that really frustrates me. The team definitely underperformed after the Melo trade, but I can give him the benefit of the doubt with that because Billups was injured and it takes time to develop chemistry. The other stuff is inexcusable imo.

no

i think a good point being made, but a lot of us are glossing over is the rather strong possibility (probability?) of an nba lockout. if the season is started without training camp or even into the season, it will be extremely difficult for the team to come together under a new coach, new system, etc. considering mike d hasnt had a full year with a squad, it may be a calculated move to allow him to stay on his final year because it may be the best shot we have to be successful with the lockout being a very real threat

Doesn’t he (Billups) deserve the same respect of “he was being thrown into another team’s system with no time to practice” and isn’t it especially difficult when Melo and Amar’e seem to struggle coexisting on offense? I could be wrong because all these games blend together, but the offense seemed to be playing very well once Billups returned from that initial quad injury? Furthermore, it is logical to me that he would get the ball to Melo over Amar’e since he just played with him prior to the trade. Do you think he’d improve with a chance to work with both of them during the offseason?

Do or die as far as what how far would he have to take the team to get a extension ??

I say unless he wins a NBA Championship next season he’s gone.

Didn’t you know?

When you call NAC out on something he avoids that thread like the plague.

If he can’t devolve the debate into some sort of smart alec comment contest he’s done.

But hey, once we tell Toney Douglas he’s a point guard at the start of training camp, he’ll run the offense smooth as “butta”.

I will say this: if D’Antoni is the coach next year and this team acts nonchalant on defense and struggles early on, it is going to be Armageddon in NY, whether one thinks it’s deserved or not.

Howard Beck of the NY Times is absolutely a must read. If you don’t follow him on Twitter and read all his articles you are missing out on far and away the most knowledgable basketball and Knicks beat writer.

@HowardBeckNYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/26/sports/basketball/26knicks.html?_r=2&ref=sports

@wcrimi

Change of pace:

How do you guys feel about the whole Amare/Melo/Billups summit meeting thing?

I love it, thats the core (at the moment), and they know better than anyone what we need as far as help goes. They play against the guys that we will be targeting (A.Parker, Dalembert, Humphries, etc) & they should be able to help evaluate potential fits for our team.

That will never change under MD. Even of we become top 10 defensively. The reputation of this team will not change.

Where do you get Houston with Chuck Hayes as a top 5 defensive team? They were 19th and the Knicks 22nd.

You guys have to stop making stuff up to make D’Antoni look bad.

he writes twitter comments like he’s a tough guy, but speaks like a soft speaking mumbler on the radio

The last person left in the Isiah thomas era is..

HERB WILLIAMS GET HIM OUTTA HERE!!! HERB WILLIAMS IS CURSED

What center? You have to have one to play one.

I love it.

Amare already said he wanted a center, I hope he can Convince Dalembert to come for Mid level exception. Those three should be able to convince guys to come play here.

I’d feel great if they all chipped in some dough to sign one of those players

Seriously, it’s not even just him, but his “coaching staff” has to be one of the worst in the league.

There isn’t a solid NBA basketball mind in the bunch, most wouldn’t even be on an NBA bench if it weren’t for _’antoni (or Dolan in Herb’s case).

You’ve got a former HS coach and an AAU coach as his top assistants, _antoni himself barely had a cup of coffee in the NBA.

Shouldn’t he want smart, former players who have played under great coaches or top assistants who studied under great coaches?

Why would a NBA coach want a bunch of clearly under-qualified assistants unless he just wants a bunch of yes-men around him? Weird.

Beck tries to be controversial at times just to gain attention.

I do like Hahn and Isola (sometimes)

Repost

Like I said before..I like the coach .. I just think he needs the players to prove himself..
He did go to the conference finals in the WEST a tufff division..its hard to imagine that he can get that far and win 50+ games being a horrible coach & with out some type of defense.

You Guys need to be reasonable

I guess you are not tired of the 3 bombs and the poor defense and being known as a team that does not play defense. OPEN YOUR EYES. You can’t possibly be that blind. Steven A Smith is one of the only real people on ESPN radio and he made it clear that the coach has to go. He only has been voicing the same exact points the HATERS have been crying about all year. He also mentioned how the opposing coaches know exactly what he is going to do offensively and when they shut it down up go the desperation 3 point shot. You D’Antoni Lovers really need to wake up. You ask for a big man at the 5 but if that big man does not shoot from beyond the arc he will not play for D’Antoni.

to be honsest what other coach is out there that we can sign? and honestly what other available pg is out there? even though billups may not be the perfect pg for our system, there is no pg out there right at this moment. we have no other choice but to keep him. it should be exciting to see our team next year with a full season

If he wasn’t 35 years old and clearly deteriorating for years prior to this trade I might have more patience. I don’t. He’s not going to regain quickness or stop chucking ridiculous hero shots.

The PG can’t fly on the “new team” thing. It’s his job to know and orchestrate the offense. He damn sure had enough down time to study up with.

lol

I think it’s too strong to say that Mike D ‘deserves’ to be brought back. I think he should be brought back if no one better wants the job. If someone like Jeff Van Gundy is available then you’d have to consider a change.

08-09 (might not have been Hayes but Carl Landry) they were 4th in the league. My bad.

That’s two years ago with Ron Artest, Shane Battier, and Yao Ming. Are you for real?

That would be a fair compromise, but if you look at the guys he originally chose for his “coaching staff” and you take into account that he refused to add a defensive specialist in Phoenix, I just don’t see that happening.

Mozgov, Darko, Sheldon, Randolph, Curry (kidding!), etc. I know he hasn’t had any great centers, but its his inconsistency in playing them when he does that bugs me. He believes in small ball, and I don’t believe thats a recipe for success. He will play centers at times. But normally they end up getting benched for no reason. He doesn’t believe in sacrificing offense for defense. I believe that any big body could help the Knicks this year. If D’Antoni wanted one, there is no doubt in my mind that Donnie would have picked someone up.

He only played Moz because Shawne got suspended.

He treated Sheldon like crap.

He chose JJ over Barron

Yea I know, not a great crop, but I don’t think he likes Centers that much .

Wher the hell are our ex-NBA coaches(not you Herb) & former NBA players with Coacing mentalities? I look at our assistants & just laugh.

Yao was hurt. Artest and Battier play the same position. PG/SG/PF/C all played solid team defense.

Defense isn’t individual players at one position.

Dantoni no
Donnie yes
Billups yes*

*Billups expiring contract to be used for trade as needed.

If that why he started Kurt Thomas in Phoenix?

I’m with you except telling TD to come in as the PG.

Absolutely HELL no to that. Donnie’s the biggest fail in this scenario by going an entire season w/o having a reliable backup PG. Therefore, Douglas was forced into learning a position where he doesn’t fit by nature. I don’t blame him for that.

Going from a natural SG to a PG in the NBA is one of the hardest things to do in pro sports. The failure rate is astronomical. And personally, I’m a Douglas fan. I just know what he is and what he isn’t.

Dude, Yao Ming played 77 games at 34mpg. Artest and Battier both started along with Scola, I don’t care what position you want to list them at.

That’s three ELITE defensive weapons in the same lineup. Herb Williams could coach them into the top 10.

It’s seriously not that hard to hit basketball-reference

u know what i meant but u decided to respond like u always do by not answering and just saying something idiotic

The point guard isn’t allowed time to adjust to a new set of players? That’s not terribly fair. Also, you can look at all the game film you want, but it isn’t the same as court time. The Knicks played a heavy schedule in the month that Carmelo and Billups showed up and had little time to practice. The days that they didn’t have games, D’Antoni often chose not to practice. He did this to rest his players, a gesture that ultimately didn’t end up mattering in the end, which is no fault of his own.

He won’t regain quickness. You are correct. Also, when I posted D’Antoni’s endorsement of Billups, which as highlighted by him saying that he didn’t think that age was that big of a factor, you dismissed it pretty readily. If he didn’t want to blast Billups in the media, he could have said a lot less than what he did. It’s pretty obvious by some of his remarks that he’s used to blowing them off.

If you want to say Billups was deteriorating in year prior to this trade, that’s fine. Just know that in his 51 games in Denver this season, he was posting a career second best FG%, a career best 3P% and in looking at the raw data, his AST/TO ratio dropped only slightly. He only “deteriorated” after coming to NY this season.

This isn’t a sarcastic question, but do you watch the NBA outside of the Knicks or nationally televised games?

Please you can do better than Steven A…yikes he is like all the rest of the talking heads the sky is falling the sky is falling the knicks suck the knicks suck… that gets old

Wow.. LOL..Ridnour is under contract. you cant sign him.. But why let facts get in the way .

Bet you didnt know that Toney Douglas went and played PG in Summer league to get ready for Point guard duties this year.. didnt work so well.. And TJ Ford.. that’s just almost as ridiculous as suggestion we brng back Marbury

Stick to Mad Men.

Chauncey didn’t play in game 2.

But he definitely could’ve made a difference in games 3 and 4, even with how pathetic he’s been here he’s still a better PG than who we had left. There’s no question about that.

90% of the COMMENTERS hate D’Antoni. That’s not theory.

The rational observers take the emotion out of their analysis however.

Yao Ming came off of an injury that held him to 55 games the season before. His PPG RPG and Blked shots were down as he was much slower. He wasn’t a defensive stopper in 08-09.

Artest and Battier did not both start if I remember correctly, because if they did where did Yao play? (you said the SL consistent of Battier, Artest and Scola which would be the 3/4/5.)

I may be wrong unless Artest played the two.

The D’Antoni haters and true D’Antoni lovers are both just as irrational and guilty of the same crime. Though neither side will ever admit it.

And as far as “just do not know basketball”. There are a ton of paid professionals who work in the NBA who have different opinions on various subjects.

To say that just b/c someone has a different view than you means they “don’t know basketball” or are “just retarded” shows your (Armand) level of immaturity, which of course most of us didn’t need any further proof of to acknowledge.

He started Kurt Thomas 50 games the year (’05-’06) Ama_’e played in 3.

The following season he started 13.

He only played 2 seasons there.

He is resistant to playing two big men at the same time because he wants three guys surrounding the arc.

He hasn’t always had a C, you could say that about half the coaches in the league, but unlike the other half of the league, instead of opting for playing two PF’s in the forntcourt, he chooses to go with a SF at PF and a PF at C and as we saw this year he’ll have the SF guard the opposing C without blinking.

No

I respect opinions when they are rational, even if i don’t agree

Anyone who has watched this man coach and wants him back is clearly and unequivocally retarded

1. Yao Ming could stand motionless on the court and have a huge impact on the game. The lane is off limits with him in.

2. You figure it out: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2009.html

It all depends on which side of the fence you happen to be on.

The D’Antoni lovers will use a guy like Melo, Amare, or Mr. Big Not Pass as their scapegoat if the team loses even during areas where the coach clearly may be at fault..

The D’Antoni haters (98% of the COMMENTERS on this blog) will continue to use Mike as the scapegoat for why any and everything goes wrong even during areas where Melo or Amare or Misses Big Shot clearly are at fault for something that takes place on the floor.

I guess the truth does get old to those with their heads in the sand.

We need to lock Toney Douglas in a room with Anthony Robbins and have him be repeatedly told he’s a point guard from now (let’s not wait until training camp), because that’s all that’s stopping him.

I agree. Everyone here has a bias.

You _’Antoni lover. You don’t know anything about basketball.

Herb Williams is not from the Isiah Thomas era. He was on the JVG/Chaney bench per Dolan’s request. Herb has seen 3 different GMs, 7 head coaches including himself and over 100 hundred different Knick players. He has been on the Knicks sidelines for 10 years, hmm… Where did I hear 10 years from again?

I guess that’s another excuse for D’Antoni to hold on to his job. Next season there will plenty more I guess.

There’s 3 reasons D”Antoni should come back even though I want him replaced ASAP. 1, if Donnie Walsh returns (which he definitely should) he’s going to bring back the coach he hired. 2, he should get a chance with the stars we have with a full camp and starting the season instead of it just being thrown together on him. 3, we’re likely going into a lockout and he makes a lot of money.

If they bring the coach back next year as a lame duck(with brother Dan)our progress as a team may be set back so far it will take years to recover.

Even Melo was shooting treys at a high rate since joining the Knicks.A smart coach would have integrated Fields into the offense after the TRADE,.A smart coach would not have
JJ playing offense with the game on the line.A smart coach would not be so stubborn that
he can not make adjustments for personnel(it has to be his no-system).

I can only hope that Donnie walks and the coaching staff is replaced.

I agree, probably not happening. But the NY media market is a different sort of pressure cooker. With Melo and Stat, the demand for results might force D’antoni’s hand. You never know.

If Vogel doesn’t get picked up by the Pacers or get another head coaching offer, I think he could be the man for the job.

Never used that site.

Unless I have a direct link most of my info comes off of the top of my head.

By that page it looks as if the Rockets rotates put cameos between Artest and Battier at the two and the three and some games both would play and some games neither would.

As far as Billups goes I’d rather buy him out and sign him long term as a mid level price but I thought with just 5 days to do it we’d use the option and always have it to trade. I wouldn’t mind one bit keeping him though and say we sign our new PG after next season using our bird rights to bring Billups back as our SG. He would fit into that role perfectly because he’s an offensive PG and its nice to have two of them on the floor at the same time.

“Steven A Smith is one of the only real people on ESPN radio”

Only whenever his opinion happens to agree with yours at the time. He was just as adament about Sean May being better than Tyler Hansborough and about the Denver Nuggets winning the championship back in ’07.

Being an opinionated loud mouth type of personality doesn’t make you any more “real” than someone else. It just makes you an opinionated loud mouth type of personality.

Or how about it would be great if the Knicks could get a big that plays inside. Period. We have not seen anyone that can rebound, block shots and stay on the floor for more than 25 mins. Year after year we have had stiffs (James, Curry) or height but no heft (AR, Bender).

There is a reason we’ve been murdered on the boards for years. This year the team was able to put together runs of high energy defense that you need to win games consistently. Too many teams with length and rebounders were able to get second chances. That kills the energy of busting your ass for 23 seconds.

Don’t tell me D’Antoni doesn’t want to play guys like that, he played Moz (soft, rookie, from Russian leagues), Turiaf who is undersized and made of of glass, and Jefferies (no offensive skills, a modest rebounder at best and as thin as your wallet).

Average guards (Chauncey at 35, Felton) and no strength with length will set you back against the better clubs.

Tommy Dee tweets the expectation of top 4 in the east next year. As of now he’s dreaming. Miami’s <3 is better than our 3. Their filler this year is better than our filler my a long way. Chicago is miles better at 1/2/5 and has respectable guys in their prime at 3/4 where we have personnel. Boston? If they get old in a hurry we can catch them but they have too
many weapons, too much height, too much bench. Oh and they crush us
1/5. I hate the way Atl plays but they now have a decent pg, a solid but undersized 5, a top 2, an underrated 4, and the 6th man of the year. Orlando also retooled mid season and it shows but they have a better team on paper than NY.

On what basis are we, as of now, a top 4? This hype is rediculous. I'm more concerned about the match ups on the floor than the coach. Old point guards are good to have but not at 14mill as your starter. And, we need a rebounder center that makes Shelden, Jefferies and Turiaf 15 min players at best…

Wow,you just can not trust voting to teenagers.

The real winner tonight was TJ Ford. Not often he gets a name drop at all, let alone as someone who fills the void of starting PG.

Night folks.

Actually it does because everyone else doesn’t take real stances and plays it politically while he at least voices his opinion. The fact that some of his opinions are wrong shows he’s human. All of us are wrong at times. And to be fair, almost every expert said Tyler Hansborough would not be a good NBA player and a backup at best.

Don’t know anything about basketball? Because my opinion is different than yours, I don’t know anything about basketball? If u were such a great basketball mind…u wouldn’t be here blogging.

I am no D’Antoni fan, believe me. But I say you give him next year, only because I would prefer not to commit to another coach, and rather wait one extra year and have the opportunity of landing Doc or Phil Jackson if they go through with what has been said and take a year off and possibly return the following year.

There are no clear cut replacements this year. Give D’Antoni a full year, he will no longer have the excuse of never having a full year with a full squad. Plus there’s a lockout looming, and would be foolish to make a coaching replacement heading into a possible shortened season. If D’Antoni disappoints next year, as I suspect he will, the coaching pool will be better the following year with the possibilities of doc and Phil.

I for one am looking forward to that day. At that point there will be no excuses for the coach.

However, here’s what’s more likely to happen. The team will have stretches where it looks nonchalant on defense (I say this with confidence because of two important factors)

1. The best players on the team suck on defense and are very nonchalant about it., and

2. The coach does not reprimand nor hold his players accountable when they don’t play with the requisite level of defense required to be a consistent, successful basketball team.

So while both of those things will occur (and they will), we’ll still be winning our fair share of games during the season. The offense SHOULD be clicking alot better during games, and during the end of games now that they would’ve had plenty of time on the floor and during practices, offseason, etc. to work out the kinks. However, the coach’s detractors will be preaching “well it’s still not gonna work in the playoffs, so…. whatever.. i’m not impressed”.

These same detractors will demand an NBA Finals appearance, and unless that happens his head will be called for. Rational?? No. Realistic?? Yes.

And the fact he has mental lapses every other play and the fact he throws terrible passes and the fact he plays terrible defense when its suppose to be his strong point…..sorry, I like TD he just drives me absolutely crazy! I think he’s so much better than he plays. I wanna smack him half the time.

So if u fire Mike…what coach r u bringing in to get us a championship???

Melo and Amare ought to put their money where their mouths are and ‘sacrifice’ their money for the betterment of the team. If they truly are team players and it’s “all about winning” they’d do it.

D’Antoni hopefully coached his last game in NY. His teams don’t play any defense. He blew an incredible game by Melo in game 2 because his rotations are a mess. He can’y seem to find minutes for guys who go on to be productive players elsewhere. Unless he brings in a “Defensive Coordinator” I want no part of him walking out sideline.

This is a repost and wasn’t good the first time. Why would we want Donnie to walk? He’s the best GM we’ve had in YEARS. As far as being set back for years. Thats just dumb. This is the most simplistic system its very easy to go to another system from it. The guy suffered for 2 years with nothing and he deserves to start a year when we finally get him players. Believe me I voted for him to be replaced but its not fair and its not right. We wont win with him we wont but going into a lockout it would be dumb to replace him.

Further, Walsh or the future GM should demand that D’Antoni change his staff, and at least include a strong defensive coach to handle that side of the ball. There’s really no excuse for not having one. If Rivers, who has a ring, can let a former NBA coach in Frank sit next to him and handle dee, D’Antoni’s ego should take a backseat to what’s best for the team.

Having Billups big contract (in today’s CBA) has trade value, and a long term contract for an old guard is asking for trouble. The best that they (Donnie?) could do would be to get him for less than 14 but more than 4 + whatever he would get elsewhere.

Frankly there is not much daylight there. They will pick up his option.

Unfortunately that doesn’t do much for the chances of getting a big in the offseason. Or anything else for that matter…

Went to visit my aunt yesterday and said how sorry she was that my team lost. She said from those news highlights it looks like those guys in the white couldn’t stop the bald guys in green from shooting. It doesn’t get any simpler for me to know there is a real problem. The woman is in her 70s. SMH.

Yeah that will be good for the franchise…

Van Gundy sucks and is highly overrated by Knick fans who are soft and sentimental to him.

He was awful here and only got by due to the talent that carried him and made up for his horrific in game coaching, and his complete disregard for offensive creativity.

Talk about a guy who’s stubborn for the sake of his system.. Ewing needed to get injured in order for him to be “forced” to put in a better lineup that eventually beat Indiana. And I don’t even need to mention how long he let the season go by until he FINALLY gave in and decided putting his best player in the starting lineup was a novel idea.

Oh yeah. He quit on the team too. What a winner.

Donnie will not bring back D’Antoni as a lame duck coach. He will give an extension if he is brought back.

Tommy Dee, did you fix this poll so your opinion of the coach would be correct?

I understand he has a big mouth but listen to his points on why D’Antoni has to go and get back at me. I know that you have knowledge of the game so I expect a real answer.

That court vision, consistency and suddenly defensive toughness.

Mosgov played because Shawnee Williams was suspended and Wilson Chandler.

I think we can beat the Orlando Magic positioning wise as they are in a much tougher division

I don’t think the people who voted *No* are necessarily being unreasonable.

And I don’t think the people who voted *Yes* are complete retards who don’t know the game of basketball.

Fair enough. But he did start The Moz at the beginning of the year and and had butter fingered hands of stone.

Shelden Williams is not a center and he is only 6′ 7.5″ in bare feet. JJ or Barron, now that’s a choice I’m sure the Knicks didn’t want to make.

We do need a center and that’s one of the few things everyone here would agree upon.

Shelden and Randolph aren’t centers.

Does Mike ‘Antoni deserve to return as Knicks Coach?

Of course not!

Let’s not forget that Mike ‘Antoni:

- Put Wilson Chandler on Kevin Love, Shawne Williams on Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony on Roy Hibbert.

- Allowed Avi Lee to pad his stats and gave him a pass even though he didn’t play (nor did he even try to play) a lick of defense.

- Drew up a play for Jared Jeffries (against the Kings last season) who attempted a three-pointer to win the game and eventually failed (obviously).

- Is absolutely incapable of drawing plays coming out of time-outs: this year alone, the Knicks failed to even get shot off in three close-game situations: Knicks-Boston at the Garden (Stoudemire’s catch-and-shoot – a terrible play in retrospect), Knicks-Heat (Bill Walker TO after he fumbled the ball out of bounds – another terrible play), Knicks-Celtics (Jared Jeffries TO after he tried to pass the ball to the cutting Walker – another terrible play).

I could go on and on… The last three years have proven that he will never lead the team to the promised land, because his philosophy, system – whatever you want to call it – is not conducive to winning in the playoffs. Mike ‘Antoni would be a great offensive coordinator. But as Stephen A. Smith said the other day, “The game is too complicated, it’s too sophisticated, it’s too cerebral to have a coach with such a simplistic approach to coaching basketball games.” Period!

Now, should Mike ‘Antoni stay one more year so that we can sign an elite coach like Doc Rivers or Phil Jackson next summer?

Maybe!

Let me state for the record I dont like D’Antoni as our coach. I dont want him around. That being said I was very much for hiring him when we did because I bought into the he can bring us stars thing. That ended up false. The only guy I wanted over him that year was Tom Thibodeau because I believe in defense. That being said, most of you who claim you’ve seen D’Antoni in Phoenix only saw him for a few playoff games or an occasional late night Suns game on tv because nothing else was on. I have a lot of family in Arizona and was out there a lot to look at houses because my family almost moved there when I was in high school. I’ve actually been to games there. I’ve seen Barkley and KJ and I saw the D’Antoni teams. They were super fun to watch. That said, they had a soccer player as their PG who could run circles around people and Stat was their 3rd and 4th option a lot of the time. They had defensive players all over their roster. Honestly they should have won the title the year Horry decided to turn the playoff game into a hockey game and somehow the Suns got penalized because of it but its because they had so much depth and players that fit their style of play. I wouldn’t mind one bit if D’Antoni wanted to stick around a while if he would man up and hire a defensive coach but he wont because the man is full of himself. On top of that he doesn’t want to shine a bad light on his best friend (Webber) or his brother (Dan). Its bad because he’d rather lose his way than win another way. Thats the downfall of D’Antoni. Thats the truth from someone who has actually seen his work several times up close live. IMO he should be brought back to have a full camp with these stars and show what they can do and if he falls short than so be it but although he drives me crazy and I dont believe we can win in the East with no defensive schemes he deserves the look for suffering for 2 seasons. With that in mind, lets not forget he was paid handsomely for those 2 seasons and was losing his job in Phoenix for a reason (with Stat and more players that fit his system on the roster).

Don’t be so grim.. MLE/Draft/sign & trade/D-league(yes, a diamond in the rough)

We will be fine………hopefully

This.

another one bites the dust.. LOL

I wouldn’t say he was “awful”. The team did win a lot of games under his watch, and while he had good talent, it wasn’t like he was coaching a team for the ages.

Agreed though that there’s no way he can be brought back. Once a quitter, always a quitter. I could never trust him.

I wouldn’t say he was “awful”. The team did win a lot of games under his watch, and while he had good talent, it wasn’t like he was coaching a team for the ages.

Agreed though that there’s no way he can be brought back. Once a quitter, always a quitter. I could never trust him.

Yeah thats what scares me.

Yeah thats what scares me.

LOL @ Mozgov being benched for no reason.

Looking at Jared Jeffries minutes totals completely refutes your notion that he doesn’t believe in sacrificing offense for defense.

The decision to start Mozgov this year rather than Amare at the 5, starting Fields instead of Chandler, and playing Douglas rather than Mason Jr. also debunk that theory.

LOL @ Mozgov being benched for no reason.

Looking at Jared Jeffries minutes totals completely refutes your notion that he doesn’t believe in sacrificing offense for defense.

The decision to start Mozgov this year rather than Amare at the 5, starting Fields instead of Chandler, and playing Douglas rather than Mason Jr. also debunk that theory.

@ DollarMike & NYK_

My bad for crossing posts, but just got the email lol.

But, I don’t think Nolan is quick enough do drive & dish as an NBA PG, Collison’s speed is a big factor. He just can’t create like I’d like him to. Also I’ve seen a lot of Duke games, Smith will hit the open man at times, but he routinely misses wide open players. At 17 he’s just not good value IMO.

As for Kemba, the buzz has slowed up & maybe he drops, but the big names going back to school aren’t helping us out.

PGs in our range, that I’d like
-Kemba
-Reggie Jackson
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-Trade back for Smith (maybe).. If the 17th pick nets us a late first & a high 2nd round pick .. I might do that. But truthfully I probably still wouldn’t pick him.

The fact that D’Antoni is even allowed to have his brother and best friend on his staff, despite their apparent uselessness, is in itself a joke. His brother is currently our “defensive coordinator”. Completely laughable.

All his points are legit to me. I think my points as to why I think he should be brought back are legit too. A debate can have two right answers.

All his points are legit to me. I think my points as to why I think he should be brought back are legit too. A debate can have two right answers.

Can you imagine what the other players were thinking while the offensive genius was drawing up a play to free JJ for a three to win the game? LOL.

Can you imagine what the other players were thinking while the offensive genius was drawing up a play to free JJ for a three to win the game? LOL.

I could almost argue a case that he “deserves” to come back and coach a team fIr a full year.. I could also make a stronger case that Donnie “deserves” to come bak and finish the job..

But do I WANT _antoni to come back? HEL NO..
for the simple reason that I am convinnced his philosophy can not win a championship and he is routinely over matched on a tactical basis

Sometimes people don’t get a perfect chance to prove themselves .. Any one can make an excuse why a conclusion was not their fault and they DRERVE another shot.. Life isn’t always Fair.

Mike showed a lot this season and playoffs. To me he confirmed he is not the right person to lead the new York Knicks to the promised land.

No way.Dolan wants Doc Rivers in 1 year.I also doubt Donnie will come back.

No way.Dolan wants Doc Rivers in 1 year.I also doubt Donnie will come back.

Bill Doughtry, Jody Mac, Tierney, Isola, Hahn, Tommy Dee etc. also voice their opinions and take real stances w/o playing things from the political angle.

Just because someone feels D’Antoni deserves an opportunity to be brought back next year doesn’t mean they’re “playing things politically”. Each person who’s said so has made legit points as to why they feel that way.

Appealing to the masses can also be spun as being a ‘political’ tactic that guys like Stephen A use. But I won’t label him that way. He’s just a man with an opinion, just like me.

We will not trade the pick.The GM should use some of Dolan’s Money to acquire two second round picks.A big wide body and Charles Jenkins sg Hofstra.

random thought: remember how the knicks almost signed shannon brown last offseason? i know fields played real well for the 1st half of the year but damn… he coulda been a huge help

I don’t believe that for one second

How exactly is that? Mozgov only played because Turiaf and Williams were injured, and the coach hated Randolph. He had no other options. Mozgov started for two weeks. Lets not act like D’Antoni was committed to him long term.

Fields might have started, but Chandler got more minutes off the bench. So I’m not sure how that is sacrificing offense. Chandler just got a bit more playing time with the second unit. Also, Fields could score at the beginning of the year.

Please explain to me how D’Antoni playing Douglas over Mason, shows that he emphasizes defense. Douglas is a MUCH better scorer, and Mason Jr. couldn’t hit a shot at the beginning of the season.

We all know that D’Antoni likes Jeffries, but that doesn’t mean he emphasizes defense. He likes him because he thinks he can guard all the positions, and he can run up and down the floor and won’t slow down the pace. The fact that D’Antoni believes Jeffries can play C, shows just how little he truly understands defense.

They rebound and play defense better than anyone else we had, so on this team they would be centers. You can’t honestly believe that D’Antoni wanted a C but didn’t have one. Every other team manages to find 3 or 4, and we can’t find any? I’m sure thats just a bizarre coincidence and has nothing to do with the coach not wanting one…

Does D’Antoni deserve to be back as coach? My vote would be no.

BUT, think about this. I’m not saying it is all going to happen, but it is definitely a distinct possibility. NBA has a lockout, and only plays, say, 50 or so games. At least from Dolan’s perspective, why pay Mike 6mil to walk, to then pay another coach (which we don’t really even have any great options out there right now) to coach 50 games?

Also, if next year will only be 50 games (and I am just speculating b/c this seems to be a fairly reasonable assumption), even tho I don’t want D’Antoni, lets say we fired him, and hired Adelman or Mike Brown, or whoever else you want to coach this team next year. Then in 2012, Doc or Phil Jackson decides they want to coach, and they want the Knicks. We would be kicking ourselves for not putting up with this idiot for a half a season. D’Antoni for half a season + Doc for a long period of time > fire D’Antoni + hire ______ + turn down Doc/Jackson bc we have a coach locked into a long term deal.

I know there is a ton of variables, so I’m not saying that we should bring Mike back bc of that possibility. But, just bc Dolan and Donnie bring Mike back, won’t be strictly for his on court capabilities – right, wrong, or indifferent. Just all food for thought.

Does D’Antoni deserve to be back as coach? My vote would be no.

BUT, think about this. I’m not saying it is all going to happen, but it is definitely a distinct possibility. NBA has a lockout, and only plays, say, 50 or so games. At least from Dolan’s perspective, why pay Mike 6mil to walk, to then pay another coach (which we don’t really even have any great options out there right now) to coach 50 games?

Also, if next year will only be 50 games (and I am just speculating b/c this seems to be a fairly reasonable assumption), even tho I don’t want D’Antoni, lets say we fired him, and hired Adelman or Mike Brown, or whoever else you want to coach this team next year. Then in 2012, Doc or Phil Jackson decides they want to coach, and they want the Knicks. We would be kicking ourselves for not putting up with this idiot for a half a season. D’Antoni for half a season + Doc for a long period of time > fire D’Antoni + hire ______ + turn down Doc/Jackson bc we have a coach locked into a long term deal.

I know there is a ton of variables, so I’m not saying that we should bring Mike back bc of that possibility. But, just bc Dolan and Donnie bring Mike back, won’t be strictly for his on court capabilities – right, wrong, or indifferent. Just all food for thought.

Yeah, I was disappointed when he signed with the Lakers. Supposedly the Knicks offered him more but he took less to re-sign with LA.

“I bet most who are in favor of _’antoni returning as “coach” believe that Ama_’e and Carmelo are incapable of playing defense so why try (smh).”

They are without a doubt capable, yet neither has shown the consistent effort in their career. I do think a major test for Mike D this year is to see if he can keep them motivated enough to stay active on Defense. But to suggest he has to tell them every little thing, like boxing out and fighting over screens is like saying he needs to tell them to tie their shoes if they become untied. They are professional basketball players… they should know and do the basics. its all about effort.

“Or that the cure to fixing the team defense is just getting _’antoni players that can shoot from three (to preserve his spacing) at every position who are also excellent defenders.”

This is basically true. The best cure to fixing the team defense is to surround the 3 stars we have with good natural defenders. However, because of the system we employ, these guys will have to be capable shooters. They dont have to be amazing, but they need to be able to knock down an open shot. But this is just really obvious. Because Mike D is an offensive minded coach, you need to give him good defenders. If the team had a very strong defensive minded coach, you would need to give that coach some natural scorers. Kinda like how Chicago is able to win because Rose is able to support Thibs lack of an offensive plan.

“Or that defense is not all that important and if we can just have a number one offense and score the most points in the league we can overcome a matador defense.”

This is bull, nobody thinks this. You are such a dolt. They do need to be a good defensive team if they want to compete. However, its not realistic to assume a team can be a solid Defensive team without a legit Big Man to guard the middle. All the good Defensive teams have one and to think the Knicks can do it with STAT and JJ and Turiaf is insane. If those are our only big men next year then no coach would make this team excel at defense.

I also take issue with the idea that Mike D doesnt even think about defense. No team that has STAT and Nash as the main pieces will EVER be good on defense. Period. And with that, they were consistently in the middle of the rankings, so even with two main positions filled with poor defenders, they got by. The players he has had (its like 65 in 3 years) on teh knicks was such a mess… its disingenuous to look back at the past two years before this one and hold him to those numbers.

I am not sure this team is right for Mike D anymore. He has to adjust his system or get Melo and Billups completely on board. I dont know if that can happen. He has shown he is willing to adjust his system for the right player (he did it when melo got here, and we lost… and I dont blame him for not doing it for larry hughes or any of the other garbage we had in previous years…).

He has done everything he was asked to. He developed many players while keeping the games exciting in his first two years here and got us a winning record and playoff appearance in year 3. If you completely ignore the fact that he lost his only PG and had his only inside presence at 50% then yeah… your an idiot. No team would win with injuries like that unless they were a deep team. This team was the opposite of deep. They were negative deep. And with that, they almost beat a legit championship contender at their house.

We had expectations of playoffs this year, and he got us there easily. Remember, at the beginning of the season it was not a forgone conclusion the KNicks would be a playoff team. By mid season, vegas had it as a lock.

he deserves at LEAST one full year, of a full team. He has earned it.

I really, really dislike you. You represent all that is wrong with sport fans.

“I bet most who are in favor of _’antoni returning as “coach” believe that Ama_’e and Carmelo are incapable of playing defense so why try (smh).”

They are without a doubt capable, yet neither has shown the consistent effort in their career. I do think a major test for Mike D this year is to see if he can keep them motivated enough to stay active on Defense. But to suggest he has to tell them every little thing, like boxing out and fighting over screens is like saying he needs to tell them to tie their shoes if they become untied. They are professional basketball players… they should know and do the basics. its all about effort.

“Or that the cure to fixing the team defense is just getting _’antoni players that can shoot from three (to preserve his spacing) at every position who are also excellent defenders.”

This is basically true. The best cure to fixing the team defense is to surround the 3 stars we have with good natural defenders. However, because of the system we employ, these guys will have to be capable shooters. They dont have to be amazing, but they need to be able to knock down an open shot. But this is just really obvious. Because Mike D is an offensive minded coach, you need to give him good defenders. If the team had a very strong defensive minded coach, you would need to give that coach some natural scorers. Kinda like how Chicago is able to win because Rose is able to support Thibs lack of an offensive plan.

“Or that defense is not all that important and if we can just have a number one offense and score the most points in the league we can overcome a matador defense.”

This is bull, nobody thinks this. You are such a dolt. They do need to be a good defensive team if they want to compete. However, its not realistic to assume a team can be a solid Defensive team without a legit Big Man to guard the middle. All the good Defensive teams have one and to think the Knicks can do it with STAT and JJ and Turiaf is insane. If those are our only big men next year then no coach would make this team excel at defense.

I also take issue with the idea that Mike D doesnt even think about defense. No team that has STAT and Nash as the main pieces will EVER be good on defense. Period. And with that, they were consistently in the middle of the rankings, so even with two main positions filled with poor defenders, they got by. The players he has had (its like 65 in 3 years) on teh knicks was such a mess… its disingenuous to look back at the past two years before this one and hold him to those numbers.

I am not sure this team is right for Mike D anymore. He has to adjust his system or get Melo and Billups completely on board. I dont know if that can happen. He has shown he is willing to adjust his system for the right player (he did it when melo got here, and we lost… and I dont blame him for not doing it for larry hughes or any of the other garbage we had in previous years…).

He has done everything he was asked to. He developed many players while keeping the games exciting in his first two years here and got us a winning record and playoff appearance in year 3. If you completely ignore the fact that he lost his only PG and had his only inside presence at 50% then yeah… your an idiot. No team would win with injuries like that unless they were a deep team. This team was the opposite of deep. They were negative deep. And with that, they almost beat a legit championship contender at their house.

We had expectations of playoffs this year, and he got us there easily. Remember, at the beginning of the season it was not a forgone conclusion the KNicks would be a playoff team. By mid season, vegas had it as a lock.

he deserves at LEAST one full year, of a full team. He has earned it.

I really, really dislike you. You represent all that is wrong with sport fans.

I recall that D’Antoni was flirting with the Bulls coaching job before eventually signing with the Knicks. I think New York had presented a better offer. Had he known Chicago was going to win the Draft Lottery that year, he would’ve passed on the Knicks for sure. And then there he was at the dais, eventually drawing the 8th pick for his new team. Well, we all know how that turned out.

I recall that D’Antoni was flirting with the Bulls coaching job before eventually signing with the Knicks. I think New York had presented a better offer. Had he known Chicago was going to win the Draft Lottery that year, he would’ve passed on the Knicks for sure. And then there he was at the dais, eventually drawing the 8th pick for his new team. Well, we all know how that turned out.

Oh my goodness Kobe…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cqRImCQ5Uw&feature=youtu.be

Oh my goodness Kobe…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cqRImCQ5Uw&feature=youtu.be

This really bothers me. And it’s not gonna change, which bothers me even more.

This really bothers me. And it’s not gonna change, which bothers me even more.

Haha,

If you still at it: the poll shows that no matter how many words you put in this blog and how many snotty remarks you post everyday, your opinion remains what it was: your opinion. BTW: it doesn’t make other people who frequent that blog – naive.

Haha,

If you still at it: the poll shows that no matter how many words you put in this blog and how many snotty remarks you post everyday, your opinion remains what it was: your opinion. BTW: it doesn’t make other people who frequent that blog – naive.

Walsh has fired only his buddy Isiah Thomas which he called a hard thing to do when he first got here. He hasn’t fired one since he hired Larry Brown. Brown left, Bird left, Bird fired Isiah, Bird fired Carlisle and Donnie moved him into the front office. Hell he didn’t even fire Isiah out right, Isiah left the Knicks. Walsh is a very loyal guy. Dolan will have to be the one to fire D’Antoni, watch Walsh lie down for the guy.

Nah… there’s actually a good chunk of people who want pasta boy around.. they just dont post on this blog as much as we (the pasta boy haterz) do… The MD supporters are tired of our BS and getting bombarded with reason/argument on this blog

“I really, really dislike you. You represent all that is wrong with sport fans.”

LMFAO!

The only reason that makes me want Donnie to go is that he might want to keep D’Antoni. I bet he’s considering this and I don’t want to see the Knicks waste another year just to prove “THE SYSTEM” works.

The only reason that makes me want Donnie to go is that he might want to keep D’Antoni. I bet he’s considering this and I don’t want to see the Knicks waste another year just to prove “THE SYSTEM” works.

“He’s the best GM we’ve had in years”

That’s not saying much at all.

“He’s the best GM we’ve had in years”

That’s not saying much at all.

Enough with waiting for anyone.

Enough with waiting for anyone.

Really? I’m stunned.

Personally, I’m sick of his stubbornness…this past series for example, refused to play Anthony Carter heavy minutes cause he doesn’t shoot like Ray Allen, played Jeffries ahead of Shawne Williams and didn’t give Shelden one minute the whole series….last I checked Shawne Williams has done everything better than JJ this season, defense included. Carter almost won game 4 with his energy and defense, and he decided to play Roger Mason Jr. ahead of him allll series…

But there really isn’t anyone better out there at this point, I would like Phil Jax or Doc, but I think each will probably take this up coming season off. Calipari??? I don’t see much difference btw him and D’Antoni, other than he is not as stubborn as Mike. But then again he hasn’t proved he can win in the NBA.

LOL

You dislike me?

Wow. I guess I should care?

I’m too tired to respond and refute most of this (some of it is legitimate).

As for the insults thanks man.

Anyway I’m glad you have feelings for me, sorry I don’t have any for you.

LOL

You dislike me?

Wow. I guess I should care?

I’m too tired to respond and refute most of this (some of it is legitimate).

As for the insults thanks man.

Anyway I’m glad you have feelings for me, sorry I don’t have any for you.

There is not one guy on _’antoni’s “coaching staff” that will be in line for a future head assistant coaching job in the NBA.

How dare you?

You represent all that is wrong with sports.

How dare you?

You represent all that is wrong with sports.

why? i keep it real.

My question is does he deserve 6 million a year? Never understood why the Knicks paid him so much.. His salary is the second highest, only behind Phil Jackson.

Nope not one. Its just his friends and family.

I couldn’t agree more.

Yeah remember how I was lambasted for suggesting we sign him? He would have made us a lot better.

well,first we must find a time machine and go back to when Dolan hires Walsh.He hires me instead,and i hire Tom Thibedeu

i am not a Dantoni lover by any means,but you have to admit that at every turn,walsh changed the team drasticly,just as they started getting into it every single season.

man how bad is it when a guy like sam dalembert is too expensive

the saddest thing in my opinion is that Donnie Walsh did absolutly nothing that any retard couldnt do.Most of his trades were fails,his drafts sucked,and his quest for LBJ was a joke.Christ,if it werent for Melo begging to be traded to the knicks,we wouldnt have shite.This guy has got to be the only GM in the world to have an all star say”IM ONLY GOING TO THE KNICKS” and still give up a boat load of players to get him. He traded Zbo,Crawford and Lee,and ended up with nuthin.we coulda had a great team if only he waited for the best deal for these guys .He acted like he had a gun to his head when he traded Zach n Crawford.

You obviously didn’t even get the point of getting rid of huge contracts to have all the cap flexibility we have now or that the Knicks weren’t Melo’s only team he would accept a trade to, but that’s too much to explain right now.

Desperation.

i do get the concept of ridding the team of huge contracts,but we could have gotten more for a stud like ZBo,and more for crawford,and more for lee for that matter,but Donnie had his head so far up his own ass,alls he could see was L3BRON

When both NY and Chicago were trying to outbid each other for D’Antoni’s services, I have to say that was one battle I was really hoping the Knicks would lose.

I agree… I never liked JVG.

I will say this about Mike D’antoni whom I support. If there is no lockout and he somehow is still the coach of the Knicks (which I doubt he will be) he has a serious choice to make. The Knicks are no longer built for 7SOL. Thats a dead issue. The Knicks will probably pick up Chauncey’s option and he’s going to be the starting PG for the next season. Either Mike D’antoni adjusts to the personnel he has and shows everyone how much of an offensive guru he is by coming with a whole new philosophy based around traditional baskeball concepts..(Postups..screen rolls..curls..PnR’s..Inside outside basketball) playing traditional positions (i.e. no Shawne Williams playing Dwight Howard..no playing for a game and a half with a legit point guard sitting on the bench and you put in Roger Mason Jr….Im still irked about that) or he refuses and try to put a square peg in a round hole trying to run 7SOL with players who aren’t suited for it. If he goes the latter route a serious case can and WILL be made that he’s not the right coach for the team and he’ll probably be removed.

He has to come to realization that The Eastern Conference is no longer the joke it once was. Chicago is no joke…they play gritty defense. Miami will be a force to be reckoned with and they’ve got 2 premier NBA All Defense members in Wade and James. Philly can’t be overlooked either. That team is young and hungry. Boston will be older but they still have the experience to get it done. If D’antoni doesn’t hire a Mike Brown type defensive coach to come up with defensive concepts and schemes our lack of defense is going to hurt even more. This year D’antoni could point out (and rightly so) that the pre-trade Knicks were just finally getting a chance to gel before they were traded and the post-trade Knicks weren’t together long enough to establish anything. He could also deflect blame for our being swept by pointing to the injuries to STAT and Billups. So he has some cover. In year 4, if we’re still 2nd to last in defense and start losing games to sub par teams or blow too many leads late in games..the Fire D’antoni chants will be raining down from the rafters and no coach survives that. However a legit big man protecting the paint would increase our defensive rating by about 6 – 8 places.

It’s going to be interesting to see how it goes. I’m hoping against hope that he does the right thing..abandons 7SOL and gets a defensive specialist. If he doesn’t then he sealed his own fate.

He would have gotten traded in the Melo deal anyway.

Pretty amazed at these results!!!!!!!!! Only in TKB is this happening???
So many polls have been taken on the internet and mainly in newspapers. It is overwelmingly that NO”D”antini must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only in this blog do more folks actually think he should stay. Wow!!! That goodness majority rules!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would say a lot about them. Still It’s kind of unfair because they deserve to get paid what they’ve work their whole careers up to this point for. Yet, it would be an awesome gesture. Don’t hold your breath though.

One of many polls done…
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2011/04/27/2011-04-27_knicks_coach_mike_dantoni_may_return_next_year_but_not_if_daily_news_online_vote.html?r=sports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks+%28Sports%2FBasketball%2FKnicks%29

VOTE & LAUGH

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/keepordump/index.html

“This theory that D’Antoni hasn’t been given a fair shake is misleading. D’Antoni is now eighth among Knick head coaches in games. He’s coached more games than Brown, Wilkens and Don Nelson combined. Those three have a combined winning percentage of .437 as Knick head coach. D’Antoni’s winning percentage is .419.

Wilkens was 40-41 and kept the Knicks competitive despite a major February trade. The Knicks went 14-18 after acquiring Anthony from Denver. Wilkens coached Stephon Marbury. D’Antoni has Amar’e Stoudemire, Carmelo and Chauncey.

D’Antoni has had players. He’s had time. Have the conditions been ideal? Welcome to New York.

If D’Antoni wants the job beyond next season (which he may not) he needs to coach defense, have his team better prepared and hold all of his players accountable.

Oh yeah, he also better start winning.”

WALSH’S FUTURE & VANGUNDY HAD PROBLEM WITH ANUCHA BROWN

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2011/04/27/2011-04-27_donnie_walshs_future_with_knicks_still_up_in_the_air_as_power_struggle_emerges_w.html?r=sports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks+%28Sports%2FBasketball%2FKnicks%29

i don’t think they were great defenders back then but I hate losing so I hope something good happens next year.

i don’t think they were great defenders back then but I hate losing so I hope something good happens next year.

“Dolan may not be as convinced D’Antoni is the right man to continue, especially with management having made it a priority to establish good ties with the C.A.A., the agency that handles Anthony, Paul and John Calipari. Plus, Isiah Thomas still has Dolan’s ear and sources say he does not consider D’Antoni a championship-caliber coach.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/donnie_near_deal_tURS4PKhvbl6XRhcgAgc5M#ixzz1KiTXwe2Y

“Dolan may not be as convinced D’Antoni is the right man to continue, especially with management having made it a priority to establish good ties with the C.A.A., the agency that handles Anthony, Paul and John Calipari. Plus, Isiah Thomas still has Dolan’s ear and sources say he does not consider D’Antoni a championship-caliber coach.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/donnie_near_deal_tURS4PKhvbl6XRhcgAgc5M#ixzz1KiTXwe2Y

Morning. I think you guys/gals will get a kick out of this….
http://espn.go.com/new-york/polls?id=6426764

Morning. I think you guys/gals will get a kick out of this….
http://espn.go.com/new-york/polls?id=6426764

I think we should pick up Billups for another year, as it give us flexibility going forward (he’s an expiring and could be used in a trade). I also don’t think there’s anything else out there worth signing up long term, so Chauncey’s as good a one year PG as we can get. Ridnour, Ford, etc are not the answer – I’d rather we kept CB and went back in for Felton next year than sign/trade for either of them and their multi-year contracts. CB leadership/off court skills are also a great example to the young players.

As for D’Antoni, I’m split. There’s part of me that thinks we should cut our losses, as deep down I don’t think his system is a championship winner and his complete lack of regard for the defensive side of the game really gets me down.

But if we do that, then he’ll bleat the whole way home about how he was never given a chance with a fully fit team and a proper pre-season behind them. So there’s also part of me that wants to say “here you go, put your money where your mouth is and come up with the goods. You have one year”. I will HAPPILY eat my words if he gets this team together.

So I voted yes for that reason only. Please don’t kill me guys and gals……

Obviously, it goes without saying I want Donnie back.

As for the draft – I really want Kenneth Faried. He’s the anti-Amare, and looks like he could fit into the fast-paced system to do all the dirty work without needing shots. Rebounding is one of the skills that translates well to the pros. Second prize would be Nolan Smith for bodies at the SG/bench scorer spot.

But Calipari is?

Please keep D’antoni than!

I can’t see him hiring a D coordinator….And if our only alternative is Calipari, I would keep MD

“Knicks owner James Dolan is on the verge of announcing Donnie Walsh will be back as Knicks president for next season with an agreement all but sealed, according to multiple sources. One league source said it could be a done deal by this week.
“Jim really wants him back and the only issue left is Donnie getting assurances he’s in charge of the basketball operations,” the league source said.”

http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/donnie_near_deal_tURS4PKhvbl6XRhcgAgc5M

“Knicks owner James Dolan is on the verge of announcing Donnie Walsh will be back as Knicks president for next season with an agreement all but sealed, according to multiple sources. One league source said it could be a done deal by this week.
“Jim really wants him back and the only issue left is Donnie getting assurances he’s in charge of the basketball operations,” the league source said.”

http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/donnie_near_deal_tURS4PKhvbl6XRhcgAgc5M

Donnie needs to firmly tell him to hire one of three Defensive Asst Coach options. I think that Mike Brown would be a great option. Donnie knows him from Indiana, Spurs and then was Head Coach of the Cavs. With a very strong Defensive Asst Coach and a better center , we can knock 5 points off points allowed and win 55-60 games.

Donnie needs to firmly tell him to hire one of three Defensive Asst Coach options. I think that Mike Brown would be a great option. Donnie knows him from Indiana, Spurs and then was Head Coach of the Cavs. With a very strong Defensive Asst Coach and a better center , we can knock 5 points off points allowed and win 55-60 games.

Trades were a fail? draft picks suck? to keep up with the knicks, you only read the sports section of you high school newspaper huh?

trades = melo, amare. drafts = fields. did you want him to pull a championship outta his dick hole too?

Trades were a fail? draft picks suck? to keep up with the knicks, you only read the sports section of you high school newspaper huh?

trades = melo, amare. drafts = fields. did you want him to pull a championship outta his dick hole too?

before crawford and zbo got traded, they’re trade value was ass untill they had that little spark in the beginning of the season (thanks to mda’s “offense”) that increased there trade value.

lee was gana leave anyways. youd rather had him jus go huh? not that we needed turiaf at all this season.

necver thought i’d say this.. Thank God for Isiah

I agree..im all for dantoni..but he needs a defense specialist on his staff..if everyone is saying it probably bc its true..i like him as a coach..his style of play attracts everyone..i would hate to see him fired bc he is to stubborn to hire someone to teach defense

Not a repost.We have not had many decent GMs.That is why we almost never draft well.I did not like his draft picks like Jordan Hill and he traded away picks to get under the cap.If he was soley in charge of obtaining Melo he would not be a Knick.I guess you think Gallo was a great lottery pick(made for the coach)?

I voted to keep Dantoni.
I’m not a huge fan, but I don’t see anyone available who is better. If we could get Doc Rivers or Phl Jackson or Jeff van Gundy or Popovic I would dump Dantoni. But I like him better than the candidates that are available, and I think he did a good job with what he had. I share the concerns that his style of play is not conducive to championships, but we’re not winning a championship next year anyway – his style is fine for producing a generic winning regular season.

I voted to keep Chancey for similar reasons. Even if we dump him we won’t have any cap room this year, and there are no cheap star-potential PGs waiting to be signed. Basically we’re waiting one year anyway, so he fits into that fine, and is a great mentor.

And anyone who doesn’t want to keep Walsh should check their head.

ouch

LOL, the results of this poll are ridiculous.

I don’t know how anyone could think Dantoni deserves to come back- Indiana and Philly have both put up far superior efforts in the playoffs than we did and neither one of those teams has a player approaching Melo’s ability.

2nd, how many awful personnel decisions can Dantoni make before people realize he’s a moron? In this one series alone he managed to make every wrong choice possible. Landry should have been benched after the first half of game 1, Anthony Carter should have gotten a ton of minutes once CB went down, JJ shouldn’t have gotten any minutes but instead played a lot, and Shelden Williams should have gotten minutes. Unbelievable to me.

3rd, how many times do we have to watch other teams set offensive records against us before people realize this coach is awful? I loved watching Rondo go all Magic Johnson on us, and I loved watching Allen and Pierce continue to somehow get wideopen 3′s on every possession because this team has no idea what to do when someone gets picked.

Terrible- I’d rather see JJ back next year then Dantoni, although that won’t happen because every other coach in the league realizes that Jeffries is one of the worst players in league history.

OBVIOUSLY this poll is RIGGED.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2011/04/27/2011-04-27_knicks_coach_mike_dantoni_may_return_next_year_but_not_if_daily_news_online_vote.html

theres a REAL poll.

FIRE DOLANS

yeah, this poll is faulty. needs to be a recount.

Knicks looking to resign Wilson Chandler

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/chandler_may_come_back_too_r5UWciBE1HoeDbA5CoNlXK

If we sign him over a guy like Dalembert this offseason, will everyone believe me when we say he doesn’t like centers?

The number of commenters here who think Carmelo Anthony should single handedly have been winning playoff games versus the Celtics is (not) shocking.

Star****ing is a cancer

You see the poll on that page?

Reminds me of something…

A “real poll” that has 67% dumping Carmelo.

Discuss.

It’s nf even about some of the losses. It’s about the decisions. Why did he wait until the fourth quarter of the last playoff game to finally give the only true PG on the roster PT? Why was Melo in to foul at the end of game 2 playing the entire second half? Why was Jeffries, our “defensive specialist”, put in on game 2 during our final offensive possession? Why as an offensive guru, did the team have any answers for the Celtics defense?

Hopefully he rectifies these next season though, expectations have risen since the trade.

…why fight it……D’Antoni has a year left. Dolan isn’t paying for 2 coaches..Donnie picked him..He came on and was hired with the ideawith the idea of playing with house money for 3 years…..he did…bet he he was stunned at what the roster looked like at the end……sure the expectations were ramped up but the same plan is in place…………the upcoming season…it’s all on him……
….we’ve found out a whole bunch of flaws……talent evaluation thru game experience was the most glaring….we’ll never know if Brewer was the guy….would played Pierce tough …. now we’ll never know if Derrick Brown is the guy…..it goes on and on. Weird how Mason is in thru injury and Sheldon is out thru injury, an injury not is own….play Stat big minutes, when he couldn’t contribute….playing Landry big minute when he didn’t contribute….complex guy, conflicted guy……D’Antoni has no respect for the #5 position…..thinks it’s a long #4 spot who can shoot 3′s…….
All the above doesn’t get him fired …this year…..next year….

Anthony Carter isn’t good, and it’s also ridiculous that people are pointing to 5 minutes in the 4th quarter of a blowout (then) 3-0 series as the definitive answer on what he strategy needed to be. I guess Anthony Carter suddenly started to suck again when Boston decided to turn out the lights.

Jared Jeffries WAS WIDE OPEN UNDER THE BASKET. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that sequence beyond an NBA player botching a wide open situation from 5 feet out.

The Knicks played games 2-4 with one credible offensive player versus the best defensive team in the NBA. I will never again bother to address the silly idea that the Knicks are somehow ordained to score on/beat the best defensive team in the league with one player.

NY Fans have hated Carmelo since the trade. Hence Knickolas Knickelby. I’m surprised by those numbers though. There are more people who want Chauncey Billups to return.

Carter was still the only PG on the roster. Douglas is best in te Jason Terry role

The play the Jared Jeffries was probably MD’s best play call to the Knicks. It just went to the wrong person. Jeffries is a defensive player, you want the ball in the hands of a smarter offensive player like Turiaf or Shawne Williams or someone else.

Agree with your third point but he still made questionable decisions all year long. Despite improving at every position our defense still didn’t improve. Sitting Mosgov until Williams got suspended and Chandler got hurt. Stuff like that.

All in all I expect him back next season, so hopefully he rectifies it next year.

Dude, you’re a loyal son for sure!

It’s so clear that the entire coaching staff needs to be let go anf it Walsh can’t do that, then he should leave with them

Some of you keep making excuses for this coach. He has more excuses made for him than Lindsay Lohan!

1. You say the coach does not have his players and that the players he had weren’t any good or could play defense.

A. Yet when we trade for new players you say that the coach has had the years with these players. Why would he want years with players who you say can’t play? Why would change there?

Also, what players has this coach developed since we all knew the team wasn’t built from the start to win anything?

When he didn’t play Hill, TD, Chandler or feature Gallo for the 1st few years, many of you stated that it was because he wanted to win? Win what? You stated that he didn’t have any good players so why not develop the young players?

We all knew the game plan was to get a star or 2 so we surely would need some players to play along with those stars.

2. Finally, when it was time to see our coach rise to the occasion and put a scare intot he strugggling Celtics (who had stumbled greatly since the trade of their center), our coach not once but twice mismanaged timeouts and did the most unforgivable transgression of all time – he called an offensive play for JJ in the most critical moment of the game.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NAC, go help your daddy and unpack their stuff from the garden. We’ll givbe you a game ball for that. That’s the best move you could do for real knick fans. There are no players in this universe that can help this coach win a ring. He’ll never have his players because tehy don’t exist.

Yikes! There is a reaosn JJ was open for a moment in that critical moment of the game. Evreryone in the world outside your dad knew that JJ will not beat them!

I issue I have is with the Knicks players and coaching staff on why they didn’t go into an uproar with coach called that play to begin with.

Any coach would put their best offensive players with good hands ont he floor. They would spread the floor to give Melo some operating room and if Melo had to give the rock up, it would be to the best shooters you have on the team period.

Do you think MJ EVER gave the rock up to Rodman on the most critical play of the game. Paxton, Keer, Harper, Pippen ,Grant maybe but surely not Rodman!

This coach can’t do the things you expect from a good coach and that is COACH!

Sorry Son, your dad is a DUD!

Tommy’s question is straightforward but it really isn’t as simple as whether he deserves to come back. In Donnie’s mind he does deserve to come back because of the roster turnover but in a lot of fans minds he isn’t a good coach because he doesn’t coach D and because he doesn’t use his guys right and because he made poor decisions down the stretch of the only playoff games we have seen him coach. But the reality is that he is owed $6 million, we don’t know what is going to happen with the CBA and Dolan is not going to make a three year commitment to anyone when there is a chance that Doc could be available next year. So he will be back. At least for now. If we have a season, if other high quality coaches are available, if, if if…Too many unknowns to let the guy go at this point.

Was John Paxon the Bulls’ best offensive player in 91? Was Sean Elliot the Spurs’ best offensive player in 99? And those teams weren’t down to one offensive option. I know, that sequence would have been much better with Shelden Williams or Bill Walker taking the biggest shot of the season.

If I’m a coach and design/call a play that puts an NBA player under the basket with space, I did my job. Period. Anything else is you being irrational.

DDS

You’ve got to be effing kidding me.

GET A CENTER, NOT A 3 THAT YOU’LL PLAY AS A 4.

Dude, you trying so hard to run away from common sense. The pt was that Phil Jackson and any good coach put out THEIR best offensive players when it’s that little time to go in the game and they need a basket.

You don’t put your worse player under the basket who has NEVER EVER been in that clutch situation to be the game savior. Did you see JJ. He was fighten out of hi mind and didn’t even try to attach the basket.

WHY? Because he has not been in that situation. In Houston, the coach called the best play for JJ and it was “stay on the bench because you suck!”

BTW You’ll never be a coach because if you think all players are exchangable in the NBA, you’re clueless.

Like I stated before, can you recall any critical moment where Rodman was featured or a play was called for him to win the game?

Did you see Kobe making a pass to Didier Ilunga-Mbenga last year in the clutch? Mbenga is better than JJ.

From Today’s Daily News:

Fan poll: Dolan should show D’Antoni the D’oor

D’Antoni is smart enough to know he is on borrowed time as calls for his head grow louder and more frequent. In a Daily News poll, 61% of the respondents want the front office to make a coaching change. Losing all four playoff games to the Boston Celtics did nothing to endear D’Antoni to the fan base….

Welcome back X

In Houston, the coach called the best play for JJ and it was “stay on the bench because you suck!”

Instant classic

Yeah, Mosgov played because of what happened to Chandler and Shawne, but Mosgov did start the season as our Center….. MDA gives everyone a chance and if you perform the way he expects he will continue to give you a shot.

Granted what MDA expects of people if most def wacky and that is what we as fans need to focus on. I like to look at MDA and try figure what would work for him when thinking of the players we need on the Roster.

As far as us beating the magic positioning wise I 100% agree… a full training camp with this current squad is gonna be crazy. I expect to see the STAT from game 1 and 4 alot….. STAT will be giving us 22 pts 12rbs & 3blks a game no doubt. STAT showed that he will be a rebounder next yr cause of the mere fact that he doesnt need to be the main scorer on the team. Melo thus will take the scoring lead for the team and I can see him going for 27pts 7.5rbs 4.5asts & 1.5blks a game, Melo under MDA next yr will win MVP. I voted Yes for MDA “Deserving” nxt yr because dude has proven that given a squad he can lead them to at least the conference finals, at that point it is up to his players to push him over the hump and into the finals.

We WILL finish top 3 next yr, if not top 2

Miami
Chi
NY
are going to be the top 3 seeds but it depends on what each team adds over the summer.

So to sum up my rambling that wasnt entirely meant to be directed at you Brookdon (cause you my friend are the DON), the 2 players that the KNICKS need to target this offseason are Alexis Ajinca (cause he is a Big that MDA would def play) and Tayshawn Prince (because he is versatile enough to guard 4 positions and is a million times better offensively than JJ). Prince can come off the bench and play the 2 3 or 4 depending on matchups and is an extremely unselfish player. We than NEED to draft a PG and I am saying Nolan Smith is most def the guy to get the job done. He can def play 15-20 mins behind Billups and have a great contribution and to boot since he is 6’3″, TD and him can both play in the backcourt at the same time and be good enough on D.

You mean elite guys whom have never accomplished anything without have at least TWO future HOFers on there rosters, oh I see.

My question for you is who are you dropping from the current roster to accommodate those 3 players to the roster? I for one believe we can find better options on FA market namely Tayshawn Prince and Alexis Ajinca/Samuel Dalembert(if Dalembert is will to take league minimum.)

Yeah he def would have got traded for melo but maybe we could have kept either Chandler or Gallo which would have done wonders for us in the playoffs this year

I DONT CARE WHAT THE POLL SAY’S DAN SUCKS HE IS A FAKE N GOT OUT COACHED IN THE PLAYOFFS N DURRING THE SEASONS HE WAS HERE LIKE I SAID BEFORE IM WITH CHANGE N NO 14MILL 4 PUNKASS CHAUNCEY ILL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH ANDY AT THE POINT WITH TJ AT BACK UP N PUT TD AT SG USE THE MONEY ON SOME BIGGS N LETS GO

N TO MY KNICK NATION U CAN’t TEACH HEART N I SEE YALLS POST BUT SOME FORGOT ABOUT WHAT WE LACK MOST HEART ITS NO WAY WE GET BUMP LIKE THAT WITH THIS TEAM I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT CAUSE ANY 1 OF YALL WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER THEN THAT DAN GURU DUDE N YES SOME OF THEM GOT HURT BUT WHERE IS THE HEART AT AS A NY FAN FOR NY HAS TO OFFER FOR SPORTS WE PRIDE OUR SELF FOR OUR HEART N THE LOVE OF THE GAME N OUR COACH DIDNT SHOW ANY INSTEAD HE SHOWED HIS TRUE COLORS IM SORRY FOR U NO HEART LOVERS FOR DAN THE MAN BUT AS A WHOLE MOST OF US R DONE N WE DNT NEED U SO WITH THAT IM DOWN FOR CHANGE SO BE IT

U KNOW WHAT I WISH SPREWELL WAS STILL HERE SO HE COULD CHOKE HIS ASS LOL DO YALL REMEMBER THAT

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
I keep tellin all the knuckleheads on this blog… Isiah NEVER LEFT!!!!
Just went on a little vacation!!!!!!!!!
Hey fanatics you heard it here FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!!!!!

“Carter was still the only PG on the roster. Douglas is best in te Jason Terry role”
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Been saying that for like effin forever and nobody listens to me. Maybe they will listen to you!!!!!!!!!!! Again for the millionth time
DOUGLAS IS NOT A POINT GUARD!!!!!!!
HE SHOULD BE MADE TO SHOOT ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMN KIDS ARE THICK IN THIS BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1 For old times sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU!!!!!
I dont know how long I have said this but they never listen maybe they will listen to you x. Oh and that nac kid wont even respond. He dont know what to say!!! Too loyal to his daddy NO”D”AnTEETHi