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Who is Part of the Solution?

by Tommy Dee on April 28th, 2011 at 11:32 am

Billy Walker: C

To me, Walker had his chances during the season to make an imprint and solidify his role in the rotation. I think back to an early afternoon home game against Philadelphia where everyone was struggling and the team needed a boost off the bench and Walker played a very poor game. Those are the types of situations where you have to shine in this league. He’s not the player who is going to come in and win a game by himself and while he has nice rotation on his jump shot, he is a very streaky outside shooter. In his defense, he’s been formed into a shooter, but that shouldn’t take away from his athleticism. He stops going to the rim most of the time because he commits to it way too early and teams step in and take offensive fouls on him. If he could learn to attack the rim and side step help defenders before lift off, he could be a major offensive asset. The Knicks have a big decision to make with Walker moving forward. Has he showed enough desire to improve and supplant himself in the rotation to earn a spot on the roster next year?

Is Billy Walker Part of the Solution?


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Landry Fields
Toney Douglas
Renaldo Balkman
Derrick Brown
Anthony Carter
  • Anonymous

    He’s part of the solution for me. I actually tapped Billy to be the starting 2 guard b4 the season started but Fields had a better pre season and the rest was history. I like him alot. He did not shoot particularly well but did other things well such as defense and rebound in the post season. He showed some moxy and grit. Again he is young at age 23! I would like to see another year from him and actually get a real shot as a starter on this team. He played really well for us the previous season he was traded for Nate. Worth another look IMO and can be another valuable asset. I like to keep him more so than Derrick brown.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5OEBRMVCIRNOIQ2RLAMBZFAF34 Nedi Goga

    Spot on. In addition, the young man doesn’t shy from the big moment. The fact that he was struggling and shot 0-11 but still managed to have an impact on the game speaks volumes for this 23 year old.

  • Anonymous

    I like his grit, but we should be able to easily upgrade his role. We need a SG/SF who’s a more consistent shooter. Maybe you sign him to a cheap 1 year deal as your 11th-12th player, but I really don’t want to be relying on Bill Walker as a rotation player next year. D’Antoni keeps a short rotation, so if Bill Walker is one of your top 8 players, you’re in trouble. Fields is a keeper b/c he’s cheap, smart and has room for improvement. I’m confident that he will work on his game over the summer. TD is cheap and has shown flashes of brillance off the bench. I would never sign TD to a lucrative long-term contract, though, unless he greatly improves his decision making next year. Balkman’s an obvious no, but we may be stuck with his contract. Brown, maybe on a cheap 1 year deal as an end of the bench guy. I like having Carter on the team as a veteran presence who can give valuable minutes in a pinch, but we definitely need to upgrade the backup PG position. I don’t want him as the #2 PG.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDMCW6W47JRZ4NHWT3NGSVSLUU RUBE

    I like the kids’ skills; no doubt. The problem i have with him is that he never seems to be in top flight condition. I’ve seen highlights of him when he was in Boston where he appeared quicker and more explosive than he is now. No reason for him to have regressed other than not being in the best shape he can be.

  • Guest

    54 hours left for Dolan’s decision on Donnie Walsh (who will bring back D’Antoni).

  • Anonymous
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  • Anonymous

    I honestly think Billy is held back by this system. One of his biggest strengths is driving to the hoop and here he’s expected to just shoot 3s. He’s a good 3 point shooter but his game is made much better by driving. That being said, he’s a good bench player and I’d like to see Billy Sky Walker stick around for a while.

  • Anonymous

    I honestly think Billy is held back by this system. One of his biggest strengths is driving to the hoop and here he’s expected to just shoot 3s. He’s a good 3 point shooter but his game is made much better by driving. That being said, he’s a good bench player and I’d like to see Billy Sky Walker stick around for a while.

  • Anonymous

    All these C’s looks like a Stepinac HS Graduation. LOL.

    these bottom of the roster guys are showing what they are .. Flawed players with some potential but glaring flaws..

    It really highlughts the importance of a good coach to maximize their potential and utilize their skills to their most effective role without over exposing them.

    In my view most of these role players (with the exception of Balkman who never plays) have been over exposed and used incorrectly.

    Let’s ee if BW is the first person to get serious minutes and get a “No”

    I voted No.

  • Anonymous

    All these C’s looks like a Stepinac HS Graduation. LOL.

    these bottom of the roster guys are showing what they are .. Flawed players with some potential but glaring flaws..

    It really highlughts the importance of a good coach to maximize their potential and utilize their skills to their most effective role without over exposing them.

    In my view most of these role players (with the exception of Balkman who never plays) have been over exposed and used incorrectly.

    Let’s ee if BW is the first person to get serious minutes and get a “No”

    I voted No.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, dear God. Does anyone remember that Felton can’t run a P&R? Or his Duhonitis? Yes, let’s give Mike back his mediocre point guard and 3, who averaged just 5.9 rpg for us this year, to play at the 4 for ‘matchups.’

    I would seriously just throw in the towel.

    ETA: If your stretch 4 is a Troy Murphy from ’08-’10, then fine. Whatever. But Wilson? Come on, now.

  • Anonymous

    That’s for the option to be picked up, not an extension. That deadline is July 30th.

  • Anonymous

    That’s for the option to be picked up, not an extension. That deadline is July 30th.

  • Anonymous

    i voted yes but i wouldnt say he is part of the solution. He definitely can be a productive piece off the bench but he needs to lay off the 3′s and develope more of a midrange game and stop with the offensive fouls while driving to the basket

  • Anonymous

    I love walker and hope he’s part of this thing moving forward.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    Absolutely

    1. Felton was better than Billups for us

    2. We need depth BADLY

    No way in hell would Denver do that

  • Anonymous

    after watching the end of the game last night i’d have to say no…Felton showed all the things i hated about his game…the whole driving into the lane with his head down chucking some sort of ridiculous shot that had no chance of going in just reminded me that he really isnt that great, only way i make that trade is if our coach is no longer our coach, so maybe his game changes for the better

  • Mustarda

    I would do this. I’m not sure if Billups will even be able to play due to his constant injuries. Chandler would be our 3rd best player.

  • Mustarda

    I would do this. I’m not sure if Billups will even be able to play due to his constant injuries. Chandler would be our 3rd best player.

  • Anonymous

    I voted yes because of his salary, improved defense, and excellent shooting. however, I wouldn’t bring back Shawne. Billy can provide his shooting at a lower cost. Shawne should be replaced by a rugged PF/C imo. a la reggie evens type….

    My depth chart would be:

    1) Carmelo
    2) Amare
    3) Billups
    4) FA starting C
    5) FA backup PG
    6) FA starting SG (defensive type, can hit open shot)
    7) Toney 8) Landry
    9) Billy
    10) Ronny
    11) Brown
    12) FA PF/C (reggie evens type)
    13) Jeffries
    14) Balkman
    15) Rautins

    Is this possible? it will depend largely on the new CBA.

    But this is what a contending Knick team should look like next year……..

  • Anonymous

    I voted yes because of his salary, improved defense, and excellent shooting. however, I wouldn’t bring back Shawne. Billy can provide his shooting at a lower cost. Shawne should be replaced by a rugged PF/C imo. a la reggie evens type….

    My depth chart would be:

    1) Carmelo
    2) Amare
    3) Billups
    4) FA starting C
    5) FA backup PG
    6) FA starting SG (defensive type, can hit open shot)
    7) Toney 8) Landry
    9) Billy
    10) Ronny
    11) Brown
    12) FA PF/C (reggie evens type)
    13) Jeffries
    14) Balkman
    15) Rautins

    Is this possible? it will depend largely on the new CBA.

    But this is what a contending Knick team should look like next year……..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMBIT4CRWRYDLPPZGKTLMUGZYI Phil

    Just as an FYI because I think it gets lost. Walker is less than one year older than Fields. Not sure if he is part of the solution, but for a guy who is set to make under a million dollars, it will be tough to find better production for cost

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMBIT4CRWRYDLPPZGKTLMUGZYI Phil

    Just as an FYI because I think it gets lost. Walker is less than one year older than Fields. Not sure if he is part of the solution, but for a guy who is set to make under a million dollars, it will be tough to find better production for cost

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMBIT4CRWRYDLPPZGKTLMUGZYI Phil

    Just as an FYI because I think it gets lost. Walker is less than one year older than Fields. Not sure if he is part of the solution, but for a guy who is set to make under a million dollars, it will be tough to find better production for cost

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    There are 30 Bill Walkers in the D league. He’s fine, but whatever.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    There are 30 Bill Walkers in the D league. He’s fine, but whatever.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I would also like to see him convert on some dunks too rather than get an offensive foul or miss the dunk. Use both hands!

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I would also like to see him convert on some dunks too rather than get an offensive foul or miss the dunk. Use both hands!

  • Anonymous

    Shawne should play his natural position at SF…not PF or C
    Bill Walker is an undersized SF.

    They both are okay, but one has to go and I am not really 100% sure who it would be.

    Brown barely played…wth?

  • Anonymous

    Shawne should play his natural position at SF…not PF or C
    Bill Walker is an undersized SF.

    They both are okay, but one has to go and I am not really 100% sure who it would be.

    Brown barely played…wth?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    Walker is extremely talented but he’s very inconsistent effort-wise defensively and he commits too many offensive fouls when he drives to the basket. I wouldn’t call Walker “part of the solution” but he’s probably the best swingman that we have after Melo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    Walker is extremely talented but he’s very inconsistent effort-wise defensively and he commits too many offensive fouls when he drives to the basket. I wouldn’t call Walker “part of the solution” but he’s probably the best swingman that we have after Melo.

  • Anonymous

    Injuries happen anywhere. Knicks fans should know that with Amare getting injured during practice. You cannot control what might happen.

    Chandler is an SF, your best player Anthony is an SF. How does that make sense?

  • Anonymous

    Injuries happen anywhere. Knicks fans should know that with Amare getting injured during practice. You cannot control what might happen.

    Chandler is an SF, your best player Anthony is an SF. How does that make sense?

  • Anonymous

    Exactly, the knicks don’t need another SF. Goodbye Shawne.

    Billy Walker can be our 3rd string SG. He has a million dollar option. Knicks should pick it up. Its a good value…..

    I like what I saw from Brown. I would bring him back on the cheap in a limited, let’s-see-what-he-can-do type of role……

  • Anonymous

    I think you keep Shawne for a sack of nickels, b/c he has the ability to guard multiple positions.

  • Anonymous

    I think you keep Shawne for a sack of nickels, b/c he has the ability to guard multiple positions.

  • Anonymous

    I think you keep Shawne for a sack of nickels, b/c he has the ability to guard multiple positions.

  • Anonymous

    surprised where you put your boy JJ..

    Donnie is going to have to be creative to shake up the bottom half of the roster..

  • Sean

    we needed feltons penetration and speed against the Cs…but why would denver do this…just to be nice to Billups?

  • Sean

    we needed feltons penetration and speed against the Cs…but why would denver do this…just to be nice to Billups?

  • Sean

    we needed feltons penetration and speed against the Cs…but why would denver do this…just to be nice to Billups?

  • Anonymous

    I know people like to take every opportunity to put everything on the coach. I’m not getting into that debate, but the coach was forced in the second part of the year to ask these guys to do more than what they are probably capable of. When the Melo trade happened and we lost our depth, we really lost our offensive depth, and the Williams and Walkers, etc. were forced to play more minutes, and more minutes out of position.

    I agree that we see how limited these guys are and they need to play in smaller doses, or even used differently. The real challenge is on Walsh now (who I hope gets his extension locked up), not the coach, to put the pieces in place. He is going to have to find pieces at cheap costs, not make a mistake on the draft pick, keep his financial flexibility, etc. Most of the guys we are grading can be sent packing, and whether they are part of the solution depends on if we get other players who allow the current bench guys to be productive as 8th, 9th and 10th guys off the bench, etc., where they belong. We won’t need all of them, and those that we keep depend on who else DW can get.

  • Anonymous

    I know people like to take every opportunity to put everything on the coach. I’m not getting into that debate, but the coach was forced in the second part of the year to ask these guys to do more than what they are probably capable of. When the Melo trade happened and we lost our depth, we really lost our offensive depth, and the Williams and Walkers, etc. were forced to play more minutes, and more minutes out of position.

    I agree that we see how limited these guys are and they need to play in smaller doses, or even used differently. The real challenge is on Walsh now (who I hope gets his extension locked up), not the coach, to put the pieces in place. He is going to have to find pieces at cheap costs, not make a mistake on the draft pick, keep his financial flexibility, etc. Most of the guys we are grading can be sent packing, and whether they are part of the solution depends on if we get other players who allow the current bench guys to be productive as 8th, 9th and 10th guys off the bench, etc., where they belong. We won’t need all of them, and those that we keep depend on who else DW can get.

  • Anonymous

    I know people like to take every opportunity to put everything on the coach. I’m not getting into that debate, but the coach was forced in the second part of the year to ask these guys to do more than what they are probably capable of. When the Melo trade happened and we lost our depth, we really lost our offensive depth, and the Williams and Walkers, etc. were forced to play more minutes, and more minutes out of position.

    I agree that we see how limited these guys are and they need to play in smaller doses, or even used differently. The real challenge is on Walsh now (who I hope gets his extension locked up), not the coach, to put the pieces in place. He is going to have to find pieces at cheap costs, not make a mistake on the draft pick, keep his financial flexibility, etc. Most of the guys we are grading can be sent packing, and whether they are part of the solution depends on if we get other players who allow the current bench guys to be productive as 8th, 9th and 10th guys off the bench, etc., where they belong. We won’t need all of them, and those that we keep depend on who else DW can get.

  • Anonymous

    he is a guy that should provide competition for playing time to keep guys accountable and can come in and play well if someone gets hurt…..

  • Anonymous

    he is a guy that should provide competition for playing time to keep guys accountable and can come in and play well if someone gets hurt…..

  • Anonymous

    he is a guy that should provide competition for playing time to keep guys accountable and can come in and play well if someone gets hurt…..

  • Anonymous

    I think Shawne will get more than a sack of nickels

    Knicks will have to be very frugal if they are to improve…..

  • Anonymous

    I think Shawne will get more than a sack of nickels

    Knicks will have to be very frugal if they are to improve…..

  • Anonymous

    He should hold himself accountable. Every player in the NBA should make lay-ups and be able to make 90% or more wide open shots under the basket.

    There has to be a reason why he has not improved in that area in 8 years. Train harder.

    However, he did shoot 48% from the field and 75% from the free throw line in the playoffs.

  • Anonymous

    He should hold himself accountable. Every player in the NBA should make lay-ups and be able to make 90% or more wide open shots under the basket.

    There has to be a reason why he has not improved in that area in 8 years. Train harder.

    However, he did shoot 48% from the field and 75% from the free throw line in the playoffs.

  • Anonymous

    sounds good except in reality neither Shawne’s nor Walker’s minutes went up after the trade… Walker ‘s minutes actually went down drastically.

    In fact JJ was the beneficiary of most of the minutes after the trade and he was hand selected by.. guess who.

  • Anonymous

    No thank you, the guy is athletic and has talent, but lacks composure which is evident in the offensive fouls and forced shots that the defense tricks him into taking. I would trade him and cash for a late 1st though.

  • Anonymous

    ? Again Bill Walker is an undersized SF…

  • Anonymous

    By your logic everyone should be able to be a good basketball player……all they have to do is train harder………

  • Anonymous

    It looks like what you see is what you get with Walker. He hasn’t progressed. He’s not a bad player on the end of the bench. I don’t want him in the rotation.

  • Mustarda

    I’m only more concerned with Chauncey because he got injured 3x (4?) while he is in NY, and it’s been a very short period of time. At his age he takes longer to recover too.. and about Will, he can cover three positions coming from the bench. He could be our sixth man, we have no depth… I’m okay with that. It’s not like we’re better with Shawne Williams. In the worst case scenario we could use him to get a big man, because he’s got some market value.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    walker is hot garbage

  • Mustarda

    They wouldn’t. If they had any interest in this trade they would have made it already in the Melo trade.

  • Anonymous

    Anthony Parker, Joel Pryzbilla (defense only rebounder, no offensive game), Mike Bibby? (will he come cheap, he hasn’t done anything for the Heat?) Josh Mcroberts/Jeff Foster would fit your needs and would all come cheap.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on which Felton we see. December Felton or January. December was great. January he was much worse the Billups.

    Denver would because Chandler has played so dreadfully for them. If you read Denver Stiffs, they all talk about bow much they don’t want him back.

  • Anonymous

    Not bad in terms of do-ability.

    I like Bibby and Foster on the cheap.

    I don’t think of Parker as a great defender. But we might have to settle for him.

    pryzbilla is done imo. I think we need someone better there…….

  • Anonymous

    By my logic if you put in the work and train harder you should be a better basketball player.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! Did JJ come up yet for “Who is part of the solution?” or is Tommy waiting to feature him last as the go to guy?

    Walker is a 8th or 9th man so I could care less really. It’s all about Pringles with me. He’s got to go! Another year with this bozo and we will not have gain much and Amare will crippled anyway.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! Did JJ come up yet for “Who is part of the solution?” or is Tommy waiting to feature him last as the go to guy?

    Walker is a 8th or 9th man so I could care less really. It’s all about Pringles with me. He’s got to go! Another year with this bozo and we will not have gain much and Amare will crippled anyway.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! Did JJ come up yet for “Who is part of the solution?” or is Tommy waiting to feature him last as the go to guy?

    Walker is a 8th or 9th man so I could care less really. It’s all about Pringles with me. He’s got to go! Another year with this bozo and we will not have gain much and Amare will crippled anyway.

  • Anonymous

    If it wasn’t for JJ, that would be a true statement.

  • Anonymous

    Walker didn’t back down in the playoffs he played hard under a different coach he could be a better player.

    Tony _ouglas is a football player and should be no where on a basket ball court.

    Trade him and bring in Darington Hobson

  • Anonymous

    Walker didn’t back down in the playoffs he played hard under a different coach he could be a better player.

    Tony _ouglas is a football player and should be no where on a basket ball court.

    Trade him and bring in Darington Hobson

  • Anonymous

    Walker didn’t back down in the playoffs he played hard under a different coach he could be a better player.

    Tony _ouglas is a football player and should be no where on a basket ball court.

    Trade him and bring in Darington Hobson

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    nope JJ is coming soon, as for walker he’s another player u take him out danni boy system and he’s out of the league

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    isn’t hobson still injured, didn’t he have a serious injury

  • Anonymous

    I would still bring him in for min. (Pryzbilla).

    What about Deshawn Stevenson, who also is a good defender and can shoot?

  • http://twitter.com/3rdStrike 3rdStrike

    I thought Amar’e and Felton worked well together. Yeah, Felton started to slow down towards the All-Star break, but I liked his game. I would love to see the Knicks re-acquire him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RPYWJIWMECD26SCODJEDDUVAHE Run – TMC

    Hurt his hip and never played a minute.

    Indy’ll send us Lance Stephenson for a case of microbrew beer, though…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RPYWJIWMECD26SCODJEDDUVAHE Run – TMC

    Hurt his hip and never played a minute.

    Indy’ll send us Lance Stephenson for a case of microbrew beer, though…

  • Guest

    The Miami Heat have 4 centers on their roster.Haslem,Illgauskis,Dampier and Joel Anthony.Joel is under contract but would be fine for the Knicks in a trade.

  • Guest

    The Miami Heat have 4 centers on their roster.Haslem,Illgauskis,Dampier and Joel Anthony.Joel is under contract but would be fine for the Knicks in a trade.

  • http://twitter.com/anthonytdee207 anthony G. Decesare

    Sounds like Next february’s trade deadline could be a big deal when it comes Howard and/or Paul getting dealt as far as Isola and other analysts are concerned. Would u guys do any of these 3 deals, some of these are out their being talked about:

    A. Amare and Billups expiring for Dwight Howard and Gilbert Arenas.

    B. Amare and Billups expiring for Dwight Howard and Hedo Turklogu

    C. Billups expiring, Turiaf expiring, Tony Douglas, Landry Fields, Bill Walker, rights to Jerome Jordan, Andy Rautins, Relando Balkman for Chris Paul and Emeka Okafor.

  • http://twitter.com/anthonytdee207 anthony G. Decesare

    Sounds like Next february’s trade deadline could be a big deal when it comes Howard and/or Paul getting dealt as far as Isola and other analysts are concerned. Would u guys do any of these 3 deals, some of these are out their being talked about:

    A. Amare and Billups expiring for Dwight Howard and Gilbert Arenas.

    B. Amare and Billups expiring for Dwight Howard and Hedo Turklogu

    C. Billups expiring, Turiaf expiring, Tony Douglas, Landry Fields, Bill Walker, rights to Jerome Jordan, Andy Rautins, Relando Balkman for Chris Paul and Emeka Okafor.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    I love Joel Anthony but the Heat will not trade him to a rival team when his contract is a bargain.

    Don’t forget Jamal Magloire and Juwan Howard.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    I love Joel Anthony but the Heat will not trade him to a rival team when his contract is a bargain.

    Don’t forget Jamal Magloire and Juwan Howard.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    DeShawn would be a great fit.

    Tough defender who can shoot the 3 – me likes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    DeShawn would be a great fit.

    Tough defender who can shoot the 3 – me likes.

  • Anonymous

    it still baffles me how walker shot almost a 39% 3P percentage….i feel like he airballed every other shot. I like his grit though and he had a decent playoffs, but he’s an offensive foul machine and doesn’t seem to always play with his head. If it was between him and Shawne I’d take Shawne.

  • Anonymous

    it still baffles me how walker shot almost a 39% 3P percentage….i feel like he airballed every other shot. I like his grit though and he had a decent playoffs, but he’s an offensive foul machine and doesn’t seem to always play with his head. If it was between him and Shawne I’d take Shawne.

  • http://twitter.com/TwoSevenStreet Nelson Ortiz

    Starting 5
    C-Dalembert (MLE) or Ajinca (Vet Min)
    PF-Amare
    SF-Melo
    SG-Fields
    PG-Billups

    Bench
    2nd C-Turiaf
    2nd PF-Shawne Williams
    2nd SF-Tashaun Prince*
    2nd SG-Douglas
    2nd PG-Nolan Smith (1st rd draft pick)

    3rd C-JJ
    3rd PF-Shelden Williams
    3rd SF-Balkman (ugh, hope we can just buy him out)
    3rd SG-Walker
    3rd PG-Carter

    *(A man could dream that he is willing to take a vet min to play with his boy Billups)

  • http://twitter.com/TwoSevenStreet Nelson Ortiz

    Starting 5
    C-Dalembert (MLE) or Ajinca (Vet Min)
    PF-Amare
    SF-Melo
    SG-Fields
    PG-Billups

    Bench
    2nd C-Turiaf
    2nd PF-Shawne Williams
    2nd SF-Tashaun Prince*
    2nd SG-Douglas
    2nd PG-Nolan Smith (1st rd draft pick)

    3rd C-JJ
    3rd PF-Shelden Williams
    3rd SF-Balkman (ugh, hope we can just buy him out)
    3rd SG-Walker
    3rd PG-Carter

    *(A man could dream that he is willing to take a vet min to play with his boy Billups)

  • Anonymous

    8 players for 2. How the hell does that work out?

  • http://twitter.com/MattGibson33 Matt Gibson

    Bill needs to be on this team, he has great 2guard size, plays with a lot of heart, he’s very young, was a top 10 recruit out of high school and his college career was stellar minus his 2 major injuries, but at sometimes he shows the athleticism he used to have. IMO i think he would be better suited as a starter, unlike landry he is less reluctant to drive, a platoon between the two at the 2g would create a lot of size advantages for us, or mismatches if he plays the 3 in a smaller lineup. given consistent minutes this guy can shine

  • http://twitter.com/MattGibson33 Matt Gibson

    Bill needs to be on this team, he has great 2guard size, plays with a lot of heart, he’s very young, was a top 10 recruit out of high school and his college career was stellar minus his 2 major injuries, but at sometimes he shows the athleticism he used to have. IMO i think he would be better suited as a starter, unlike landry he is less reluctant to drive, a platoon between the two at the 2g would create a lot of size advantages for us, or mismatches if he plays the 3 in a smaller lineup. given consistent minutes this guy can shine

  • Anonymous

    that would be awesome

  • Anonymous

    that would be awesome

  • Anonymous

    Heat coach Erik Spoelstra called SVG a few days ago and asked “While u were coaching here, did your playbook end up in the opposing team’s hands often?”

    Riley is telling freinds that unlike SVG, he intends to allow Erik to be his wingman on the bench next year.

  • Anonymous

    Heat coach Erik Spoelstra called SVG a few days ago and asked “While u were coaching here, did your playbook end up in the opposing team’s hands often?”

    Riley is telling freinds that unlike SVG, he intends to allow Erik to be his wingman on the bench next year.

  • http://twitter.com/anthonytdee207 anthony G. Decesare

    it works out cap wise and NO has 7 open roster spots.

  • http://twitter.com/anthonytdee207 anthony G. Decesare

    it works out cap wise and NO has 7 open roster spots.

  • Guest

    I like Nolan Smith as our first round pick.A point guard from Duke who plays defense,scored 20pts/game at 51% ,81.3% ft on powerhouse team.Our biggest need is center but none are worthy of our pick.I would like to hear who TKB think we should take with our first round pick.

  • Guest

    I like Nolan Smith as our first round pick.A point guard from Duke who plays defense,scored 20pts/game at 51% ,81.3% ft on powerhouse team.Our biggest need is center but none are worthy of our pick.I would like to hear who TKB think we should take with our first round pick.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    most duke p.g don’t go far or gets seriously injured so pass on duke p.g

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure when the season starts they will have 12 players…

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure when the season starts they will have 12 players…

  • Guest

    I doubt (c) works out salary wise.If it did I would like that trade.

  • Guest

    I doubt (c) works out salary wise.If it did I would like that trade.

  • Anonymous

    Walker is cheap and a decent role player. That’s it.

  • Anonymous

    Walker is cheap and a decent role player. That’s it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    only in danni boy system he’s decent

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    only in danni boy system he’s decent

  • Anonymous

    Another easily replaceable player imho.

  • Anonymous

    Another easily replaceable player imho.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    option C is hilarious

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    option C is hilarious

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    it’s so easy to be replaced u can blink your eyes and it’s replaced

  • Mustarda

    ‘Whatever’ fits Bill Walker perfectly.

  • Anonymous

    Dwight Howard would love that

  • Anonymous

    Lol what the hell.

    Not saying you are wrong, just sounds weird…

  • Anonymous

    Stevenson would be perfect.

    But Pryzbilla as a starting C? Not good enough. Then we are back to the three headed monster approach…….he would be a last resort imo…..

  • Anonymous

    For that price?

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    lol

  • Anonymous

    Again, I said we should keep Billy because of his VAULE.

    Shawne if the better player, but he can probably get 3, or at least 2 mil next year. we have Billy for one.

    I don’t think people realize how precious our cap space is going to be next year. Knicks will have to consider how they spend every dollar very carefully….

  • Anonymous

    ISola speculating the _’Antoni should be eyeing the job in Golden State ..

    Good idea.

    can you trade a draft pick for a coach? i think you can get draft pick compensation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AD2HDTCZGPG7FEP4S5C77VHDAI Yugo Schticklitz

    Ummm…I liked Felton in the pick and roll wit STAT…I dont think CB ever ran it well & I thought Felton and STAT were unstoppable in that set. But I am not sure if its a need time to work together scenario or just playing style scenario. My problem with Billups is he doesn’t dish out any dimes. Avg. 5 a game for his carreer. He is more of a scorer. Think about it, Nash would elevate this team with his PG play. Can we get Rubio?

  • Anonymous

    That is basically the same team. We don’t need Prince. Where does he play? We have a SF…..

    we still have fields out of position…..

    that team is still a 6th seed imo….

  • Mustarda

    Toronto or San Francisco..

  • Anonymous

    the reason DEN wanted felton for billups was to save money…..if the knicks pay some of billups’s contract, then the salaries become comprable..and DEN knew they only had half a year of chandler, and that is up because they wont resign him..

  • Anonymous

    Definitely….Felton can run the fast tempo and I think Chandler would be re-energized here…..

    Felton/AC
    Fields/Douglas/Walker
    Melo/Chandler
    STAT/Sha. Williams
    Turiaf/She Williams

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_USTTCNQDLOI3PX2RA67J6OEROE Dave K

    I voted yes, however I wouldn’t be upset if he doesn’t come back. I mean I’d like to see him return, but its not a must.

    Quite honestly the main guys I want back is Shawne Williams and Anthony Carter. I’ve been a supporter of Carter since his first game with the Knicks and I said all through the season and playffs that D’antoni made a mistake not going to him more.

    Back on topic, Walker has a world of talent and can be a force not MVP, but just a solid player I also like how he sometimes has a bit of an attitude out there. If by some chance Shawne doesn’t return than I think Walker should be a big consideration.

    Regardless I’d like him to return, but if he doesn’t so be it as long as we fill the slot in with a solid player

    EDIT
    I didn’t realize how young Walker is. So if it can be done I would bring him back for sure. IMO he can only improve

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6ZVAPW5RZ2JCXS62FNIU3347YE Eric

    Its a shame that the NYK can get some much production per dollar from there “role” players. TD, Bill Walker, Shawne WIL, and Landry. All young ,gritty,and hv their best years ahead of them. The problem IMO is the inconsistantcy with the rotations,and efforts on a night to night basis.
    An easier question to answer is who should go!!
    1. JJ
    2. Sheldon Williams
    3. Balkman

    *4. Billups– Its over Pimpin’—(will be dealt in a Sign and trade with LAC: Knicks get D.Jordan + Mo Williams, Clippers get Billups + Turiaf and future 2nd Rnd Pick.)
    5. R.Mason
    6. Coaching Staff

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5OEBRMVCIRNOIQ2RLAMBZFAF34 Nedi Goga

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3m85vra

    Assuming CP3 doesn’t want to stay in NO. They’ll be a team looking for an owner and trying to shed salary. In order to make them attractive to an investor they’ll need a bonafide superstar and am expring contract in return for CP3 and a bunch of long term salaries.

    We give them Melo…locked in for 4 more years and Chauncey who replaces their star, at least on the offensive end.

    Hornets starting 5.

    Billups
    Green/Jack
    Melo
    West
    Gray

    They stay relevant and compete for years to come.

    Knicks starting 5

    CP3
    Ariza
    Fields
    Amare
    Okafor

    Giving Amare a legit Center is a dream come true for him.Giving Pringles the best PG in the league who plays defense and leads the league in steals is a dream come true for him. Having Ariza come in with Championship experience, lockdown defense good open shotter and the ultimate glue guy is a dream come true for us Knicks fans.

    Thsi is a move I think most people will get behind and it clearly benefits both franchises. I even think Knicks would be able to geta draft pick or dump Balkman out of this as well.

  • Anonymous

    Vet mins are a beautiful thing.

  • http://twitter.com/anthonytdee207 anthony G. Decesare

    according to realgm.com, it does work out cap wise and laugh all u want but in order to trade for Paul, a team will have to take Okafor’s contract. Paul, 2 guard(maybe we draft one), melo, amare and Okafor is not terrible.

  • Anonymous

    You give them STAT instead because of his knees. More of a risk for injury in the future. That’s why insurance won’t cover Amare’s knees.

  • Anonymous

    I’m convinced he’s just doing this to eff with my head.

    I like watching speedball for fun, but it’s clear Donnie didn’t buy into it all the way, or we would’ve seen 5 Kyle Korvers on the team last summer. That’d probably be a good team for Mike to coach.

  • http://twitter.com/ParzLou Parzlou

    I would do it … but ill will is not gonna come cheap… and after what I saw of billups towards the end I would be willing to take ray ray over too many missed games by chauncy

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5OEBRMVCIRNOIQ2RLAMBZFAF34 Nedi Goga

    I thought about that but I’m a loyal guy and we don’t have anyone who can play the 4. + they already have David West playing the 4.

  • Anonymous

    you are you getting as good as Billy for under a million, on a one year contract?

    he is getting paid under a mil to be a guy who can come in and hit a shot and defend decently if he is needed. he is a third stringer.

    who can you get to fill that role for under a mil for one year?

  • Anonymous

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Perfect for him.

  • Anonymous

    Not a PG

  • Anonymous

    At this point it’s looking like most of the players will be “part of the solution”

    I’ll bet Pringles gets the second lowest vote.. Not as bad as balkman .. Though Jeffries may give him a run for 2 nd place

  • Anonymous

    Only in NBA 2k11

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    If the Knicks win 50 games (likely) D’Antoni will get an extension and raise.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5OEBRMVCIRNOIQ2RLAMBZFAF34 Nedi Goga

    you can say that about any big trade proposal by a simple fan. It means nothing.

  • Anonymous

    no way Donnie trades Melo LESS THAN A YEAR after getting him..

    is that better?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    What if Orlando offered Dwight and a 1st rounder, huh? HUH?

  • Anonymous

    he’ll have to get to the Conference Finals as a top 4 seed to guarantee an extension.. 50 wins should be the MINIMUM expected with a cardboard cutout as the coach.

    50 wins and a first round exit and he’s gone.. if he’s here next year.

    But wins are subjective.. I expect at least the Four seed in teh east.

  • Anonymous

    typical comment by you.

  • Anonymous

    any of four dozen players from the D League.

  • Anonymous

    Fair point, except you can’t go purely by average minutes per game with the Knicks. Some games, a guy is getting 30 minutes, and the next, he gets 3. So his average might say one thing, but in half the games, or a period of 10 games, he’s getting a larger/smaller number. Shawne more than BW got big minutes for periods of the season, including several starts, and he was the 15th man on the bench to start.

  • Anonymous

    and hes young

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    the only way this roster gets better IS when this coach is gone

    i’ll be waiting for

    Is Mike Dantoni Part Of The Solution

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    player that should not be on the roster next season

    rautins
    roger mason jr
    derrick brown
    shawne williams
    bill walker
    JJ could stay if used rite plus this team needs all the size it can get.

    they can all be upgraded for the same price or a lil more, keep them an u get the same results.
    could get cheaper better d-league players for less

    sign a few d-league players that are the best at their position that we need an see how it works

    if they draft good that will be a major plus

  • Guest

    Brainless NAC.You actually think the players will respond to a lame duck coach.The coach takes away what Melo and Billups do best.Donnie should not bring him back.

  • Anonymous

    Mason gets a uniform?

  • Anonymous

    75% no

  • Anonymous

    Under a million really doesn’t matter as long as the contract can be signed while over the cap, and vet min contracts can.

  • Anonymous

    you act like anyone can shoot 40% from three. its not that easy

    less than a million for 40% three point shooter who plays decent D, can finish at the rim, and can grab a rebound or two is very good value……

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    he crossed my mind but i added him

  • Anonymous

    Walker only defends decently by _’antoni standards imho.

    It’s hard to evaluate some of the role players because not only is defense not a priority here, but many players’ roles are drastically transformed/limited by the system employed by the “coach” (see Gallinari, see Carmelo).

  • Anonymous

    He only guards multiple positions by _’antoni standards.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think we want a fast tempo offense. The knicks are better half-court offense and playing defense. Too many times on the fast tempo offense we miss quick shots and then can’t get back on D because our transition D is so poor

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    first upgrade the COACH then upgrade the BENCH and this team wins 50+ games

  • Anonymous

    Just curious what did he take away from Melo and Billups?

    Again just curious.

  • Anonymous

    How is Sheldon Williams gone and not Andy Rautins? I never seen a point guard turn the ball over three times in mop up duty with no defensive pressure on him.

    Mo Williams…wth

  • Anonymous

    Let’s be fair, now – that 40% is on 2.2 attempts per game.

  • Anonymous

    I would definitely make this move. I think Billups is better, but Felton is younger and is able to play more minutes. Plus, he fits the system better. It would be incredible if we could make this move, and sign Dalembert using our MLE. It would leave us with a lineup of:

    PG- Felton
    SG- Fields
    SF- Melo
    PF- Amare
    C- Dalembert

    Bench:
    draft pick
    Chandler
    Douglas
    Walker
    Turiaf
    Jeffries
    Carter
    Jordan
    Walker
    TJ Ford

  • Anonymous

    it’s raining today……i think that’s D’Antoni’s fault too…..

    walker is good in a very limited role. 10 min off the bench here and there if anything……

  • Anonymous

    Yea i agree i dont like playing up tempo. But as long as Dantoni is here (unfortunately) we’re going to have to play up tempo, and I feel Felton is better at that than Billups

  • Anonymous

    he is an accurate 3 point shooter. plain and simple…..

  • Anonymous

    Who is Part of the Solution?

    Andy Rautins: F+

    Can’t wait for that upcoming thread.

  • Anonymous

    Its amazing how the standards of what a good defender is have declined Under this regime

  • Anonymous

    Felton would have been awesome aside Melo and Amare.

    Felton + Melo + Amare >

  • Anonymous

    Sample size makes things amazingly deceiving

  • Anonymous

    True… just saying he’s more versatile than Bill Walker. I wouldn’t sign Shawne to a long-term deal, but wouldn’t mind him coming back on the cheap – preferably on a 1 year deal.

  • Anonymous

    “JJ could stay if used right . . . ”

    That means he can stay if he never plays. I will admit though that he claps very well when sitting on the bench. Very good for team camaraderie.

  • http://twitter.com/TwoSevenStreet Nelson Ortiz

    Prince would fill the role that Chandler had for our team. Prince would be the 1st guy off the bench and would play the 2 3 or 4 at any given time giving him roughly 25 to 30 mins a game. Prince is a beast defensively and would help maintain any lead the starters have built up. To say this team would be a 6th seed is ridiculous. Everyone is entitled to their OWN OPINION but that does not mean I have to agree with it. This team is easily a top 3 seed if Dalembert and Prince are signed because of the fact that they are defensive players first and foremost. Having Dalembert getting 25 to 30 mins with the rest being split between Turiaf/JJ is exactly what this team needs to be successful, Turiaf/JJ would be energy guys off the bench and that is great.

    AS FAR as this being pretty much the same team as last year you are right but guess what there isnt much we can do to change the team we have no cap flexability and can only use MLE and vet minimums to supplement the few positions that will be opened on the team. Id say we can only realistically get rid of three players this offseason and those 3 are Rautins, Mason Jr. and Brown (whom I actually would like to keep instead of Balkman but I dont know if that is possible due to that fact that Balkman has 2 years remaining on his contract)

    I presented a scenario that is really feasible and actually would make a difference for the team. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST WE DO (that is realistic, unlike some people suggesting we get Deandre Jordan or Marc Gasol, they are worth too much and we cant do it but I guess its better to dream than be realistic.) All I tried to do with my prediction/hope is come up with something that could actually happen. Thank you very much!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Johnette Howard nails it

    Required reading
    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=howard_johnette&id=6443780

    Criticism of Mike D’Antoni unchanged
    It’s déjà vu all over again for the embattled New York Knicks coach

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, I understand what you’re trying to do with the whole Who is Part of the Solution thing, but personally I don’t like the phrasing of that much. It kind of muddies things up as far as what you’re asking imo. I guess it sounds better than “Should X be on the roster next year or going forward?”

    Anyway, the only guy so far who I’ve seen enough from to say he should be part of the roster next year is Anthony Carter. The time to win is now- enough with these inconsistent young guys whose effort disappears from game to game and will go 8 for 10 one game and then 0 for 10 the next.

    I say get rid of the Bill Walkers of the world and try to find guys like the Anthony Parkers of the world (who will be available). Solid, veteran type players who will give you consistent effort on both ends of the floor (of course that’s assuming hopefully that Dantoni isn’t the coach as he could care less about that).

    I think we’ll be far better off putting guys like Anthony Carter, Anthony Parker, and Shelden Williams around our stars rather than young inconsistent players like Bill Walker.

  • Anonymous

    Haha that’s fantastic. It’s funny how nothing has changed as far as how Dantoni defends himself either… He still points to the PHX Suns regular season record with him as coach. Just like all the Dantoni guys on here do lol.

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    not only is bill walker trash put him on another team and he gets cut as soon as he’s traded if he’s a f.a no1 will offer him jack.
    he’s slow
    got no handle
    gives u and occasional dunk

    he hits 3′s here and there, u can find guys like him looking around blind folded

  • Mustarda
  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    GOOD READ

    “The [team] doesn’t want to fire D’Antoni … . But one franchise source said team officials would demand changes from D’Antoni if he were to come back. They want him to make defense a greater priority. They could even set a minimum for how much time he would have to devote to it at each practice. They want him to hold his players more accountable. They also could ask him to make changes or additions to his staff. … D’Antoni has stubbornly insisted that his system works, and considering his 232-96 record with the Suns, it’s hard to argue otherwise.”

    If Doc Rivers — who just coached D’Antoni’s pants off at times in their just-completed playoff series — was open-minded and shrewd enough to add a defensive coordinator like Thibodeau (and then hire ex-Nets coach Lawrence Frank for the same role when Thibodeau left), then D’Antoni should be open to changes too.

    Whomever D’Antoni is talking to during the news blackout this week ought to tell him that change is the one thing he hasn’t tried.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    The keepers are Anthony, Stoudemire, Billups, Douglas and to a lesser extent the two Williams (especially Shawne).

    Fields, Walker, Jeffries, Turiaf, Balkman, Brown are all expandable in my view.

    I agree that a “player-by-player” analysis isn’t necessarily a very good idea because some people let their emotions cloud their judgement instead of looking at the big picture.

  • Anonymous

    I agree that we need to replace these young inexperienced with more consistent players. I sort of think we have to bring Walker back though. Even if he is inconsistent, he is great value at only 900K. He has too much potential and skill not to bring him back at that price, but he should be one of the last guys on the roster and should have to compete for rotation minutes.

  • Anonymous

    I would bring back Jeffries and either Williams or Walker. I don’t think we need both of them, but its important to have at least one good 3-point shooter on the bench. Rautins, Mason and Brown can all go. I would look to replace them with T.J. Ford, and two centers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    Great read, thanks for the link.

    Some people will never understand.

  • Anonymous

    It’s always nice to actually look at the facts behind the story.

    When Mike D’Antoni assumed control over the Knicks, it was a team that ranked 23rd in offense and 29th in defense the season before. Despite the turnovers in personnel this year, we were ranked 7th in offense and 22nd in defense. Not great, but somehow, we’ve improved on D with the worst coach ever at the helm.

    Kerr after forcing D’Antoni out to get a better balance between offense and defense, saw his team go from 2nd in offense and 16th in defense under D’Antoni to 2nd in offense and 26th in defense the next season.

    This year Phoenix was ranked 25th in defense, behind the Knicks at 22.

    So I put up statistics that show that when D’Antoni left Phoenix the defense got worse and when he came to NY, the defense got better. Let the hate begin.

  • Mustarda

    “They could even set a minimum for how much time he would have to devote to it at each practice. They want him to hold his players more accountable. They also could ask him to make changes or additions to his staff.”

    We all know how this ended in Phoenix…

  • Anonymous

    I agree this whole “part of the solution” discussion is meaningless until we reach consensus _antoni is NOT part of the solution.

    Going player by player at te bottom of the Roster is a fruitless exercise

    None of these guys are irreplaceable.

    This talk about so and so being a good value doesn’t add to the discussion. They are all mAking near the min .. We get it.. But there are likely a dozen players who can replicate their single skills in the pros.. Fee of these guys do two things very good

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be so sensitive.

    would like to get dalember at 5 mil per. stevenson to start at the 2. maybe get Bibby. and draft a backup PF/C

    I don’t want Prince at the 2 or 4. He doesn’t really fill a need imo.

    these go along with the players I listed above…..

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    if they want him out without cost it’s a good start, dude doesn’t like to do anything out of his box, kerr did a goodjob getting rid of him without cost

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    85% of the knicks bench isn’t part of the solution

    the main solution is getting rid of the COACH

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    can the knicks hire KERR for a few months

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, D’Antoni left Phoenix and they went from 16th in D, down to 26th and won about 10 less games.

    No one wants to discuss that.

  • Anonymous

    Statistics can be very misleading

    If you are suggesting _antoni is an acceptable defensive coach you haven’t watched the games.

  • Anonymous

    Hire Kerr if you want a worse defense. Kerr forced D’Antoni out and the team went from 16th in defense to 26th.

  • Anonymous

    Statistics are only misleading when you start with a conclusion and work backwards.

  • Anonymous

    Fact of the matter is _’antoni wasn’t “forced out”. .. He left becAuse he wasnt able to take suggestions on how to improve and was more interested in promoting his “system” than actually taking the necessary steps to get his team past the Spurs.

    As Stepen A Smith said, he is more interested in winning games with offense Ans proving it cAn be done than taking suggestions on a part d his game that even he admits is not a strength.

    Hebrought in HIS BROTHER as a defensive coach.. HIS BROTHER!

  • Anonymous

    Keep preaching the truth brother

  • Anonymous

    Of course, he was forced out. Sarver was too cheap to pay two coaches so Kerr made him leave. Take suggestions, that’s rich. You hire a coach to coach, not take orders from someone who never coached a day in his life.

    I suppose Joe Torre wasn’t forced out either.

  • Anonymous

    Over his 9 year career _’antoni has proven he’s half a “coach” at best imo.

    Very good at some things, horrible at others and incomplete at still others.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    Statistics can be very misleading in basketball. 22nd in defense is BAD anyways. Nobody’s defending the 07-08 Knicks here, therefore comparing the Knicks defense under Mike ‘Antoni to the Knicks defense the year before his arrival is pointless (no disrespect intended).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

    Who cares about what other coaches do, the fact that there are worse coaches than ‘Antoni doesn’t make him any better.

  • Anonymous

    10 min off the bench here and there if anything……

    In other words, he’s an easily replaceable player……

  • Anonymous

    109 for 269 over the last year and a half or so is a pretty good sample imo….

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    any1 that knew how it went down in phoenix knows why i wrote that comment

  • Anonymous

    all things being equal, I go with continuity in this case……

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    his brother is a great Defensive coach he thought amaE alot

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    he’s def a half azz coach.

    i would like for you to point out what he’s good at, i’m curious to know.

    i think Offense is natural and what player doesn’t want to hear shoot as many 3′s as u can.

    the knicks shouldn’t have a coach whats the point when his system is basically free balling

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    he’s def a half azz coach.

    i would like for you to point out what he’s good at, i’m curious to know.

    i think Offense is natural and what player doesn’t want to hear shoot as many 3′s as u can.

    the knicks shouldn’t have a coach whats the point when his system is basically free balling

  • Anonymous

    That’s ridiculous. You put Pop in the same spot, maybe he wins a game.

    Our bench was terrible……we need significant upgrades in addition to a coaching change……

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    call me the clergy of tbk

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    call me the clergy of tbk

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    u know if the knicks get a new coach SHAWNE is gone rite

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    u know if the knicks get a new coach SHAWNE is gone rite

  • http://twitter.com/anthonytdee207 anthony G. Decesare

    The Denver Post says there is a “better-than-average” chance that Nene will opt out of the final year of his contract.
    Nene could opt in and earn $12 million next year as a Nugget. But considering he is coming off a career year and the dearth of big men in the NBA, Nene would be crazy not to test the market. He could probably leverage his way into a long-term deal with the Nuggets after being wooed by other teams like the Rockets.

  • Guest

    You never replied when I posted D’Antoni’s career record vs Rick Adelman’s.You never mention how D’Antoni did in Denver and you excuse his three years in NY.
    How are your boys doing in Denver?Do you understand that Melo and Billups are half court players and D’Antoni can not adjust to his players?

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, did you read the article?

    The fact of the matter is there are still the same questions about him as a “coach” as there ever were. The thing that troubles me the most is the mention of a lack of attention or time dedicated to practicing defense. It has to be very bad when there need to be mandates issued from an executive/front office level on how long they practice defense. Most good coaches wouldn’t need to be told this, let alone have it be put in writing.

    Another thing that raised a red flag was the quote from one of his former players in Raja Bell who pointed out “…they beat us with the attention to detail, the game plan, doing all the little things that win games.” Even the most unbiased or supportive person of _’antoni has to admit that’s a striking statement from a player. It sounds as if he felt the team was not as prepared or tactically equipped as their opponent.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, did you read the article?

    The fact of the matter is there are still the same questions about him as a “coach” as there ever were. The thing that troubles me the most is the mention of a lack of attention or time dedicated to practicing defense. It has to be very bad when there need to be mandates issued from an executive/front office level on how long they practice defense. Most good coaches wouldn’t need to be told this, let alone have it be put in writing.

    Another thing that raised a red flag was the quote from one of his former players in Raja Bell who pointed out “…they beat us with the attention to detail, the game plan, doing all the little things that win games.” Even the most unbiased or supportive person of _’antoni has to admit that’s a striking statement from a player. It sounds as if he felt the team was not as prepared or tactically equipped as their opponent.

  • Anonymous

    Non NBA Related

    Soooo who do you guys want the Giants/Jets/Bills to draft tonight?

  • Anonymous

    Because the two coaches after him sucked.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO why the hell would they do that?

  • Anonymous

    Depends on how we look in the playoffs and the teams defensive rating IMO. We shouldn’t be below 15th in defense if it was up to me

  • Guest

    That is BS.He told the GM nobody can tell him how to coach.His brother coached the defense in Phoenix.Terry Porter followed him and was 51-28.The knicks do not have a defensive system.Do not let the TRUTH get in the way of statistics.

  • Anonymous

    You hire a coach to coach both ends of the floor.

    No one would accuse _’antoni of doing that.

    When the scouting report on your team reads “they play no defense”, there is a problem.

  • Anonymous

    You hire a coach to coach both ends of the floor.

    No one would accuse _’antoni of doing that.

    When the scouting report on your team reads “they play no defense”, there is a problem.

  • Guest

    All you guys who voted yes for D’Antoni do not have a very good grasp on basketball.He does not care about defense.His brother Dan can not coach defense and he has had the job in Phoenix and NY.

    We have players who are better in a half court offense than SSOL.When you shoot the second most treys in the league ,the long rebounds lead to fast breaks for the opposition.
    That is his offense.Do you remember how Felton worked the PNR with Stat? Wait until
    Chris Paul is on the team with a new coach.

    Defense and half court offense wins in the playoffs.

  • Guest

    All you guys who voted yes for D’Antoni do not have a very good grasp on basketball.He does not care about defense.His brother Dan can not coach defense and he has had the job in Phoenix and NY.

    We have players who are better in a half court offense than SSOL.When you shoot the second most treys in the league ,the long rebounds lead to fast breaks for the opposition.
    That is his offense.Do you remember how Felton worked the PNR with Stat? Wait until
    Chris Paul is on the team with a new coach.

    Defense and half court offense wins in the playoffs.

  • Anonymous

    We have to severely lower expectations an standards tonsay he is “good”

  • Anonymous

    We have to severely lower expectations an standards tonsay he is “good”

  • Anonymous

    Continuity and Bill Walker should never be used in the same sentence.

  • Anonymous

    Hire Kerr if you want to make it to the conference finals for once and finally beat the Spurs in a series.

    And while the Suns defense might have gotten worse statistic wise during the regular season, they played FANTASTIC defense down the stretch and in the playoffs when they were a Ron Artest tip in from pushing the Lakers to 7 games.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    You keep talking about “what wins in the playoffs” while you discount the Knicks MAKING THE PLAYOFFS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TEN YEARS.

    Typical blind/dumb Knicks fan

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    You keep talking about “what wins in the playoffs” while you discount the Knicks MAKING THE PLAYOFFS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TEN YEARS.

    Typical blind/dumb Knicks fan

  • Anonymous

    Completely agree. The Raja Bell quote is probably the most damning thing in there.

    But then again we’ve all known that for a while. Didn’t another team’s coach or gm once say that Dantoni and his staff couldn’t be bothered with things like scouting and putting together individual game plans? Plus you have Amare mentioning that no coach has ever taught him defense since he’s been in the league. And the FACT that Dantoni cancelled morning shootarounds while he’s been here so players don’t have to drive too much…

    It’s a continuing, very bad pattern with this coach.

  • Anonymous

    Completely agree. The Raja Bell quote is probably the most damning thing in there.

    But then again we’ve all known that for a while. Didn’t another team’s coach or gm once say that Dantoni and his staff couldn’t be bothered with things like scouting and putting together individual game plans? Plus you have Amare mentioning that no coach has ever taught him defense since he’s been in the league. And the FACT that Dantoni cancelled morning shootarounds while he’s been here so players don’t have to drive too much…

    It’s a continuing, very bad pattern with this coach.

  • Anonymous

    Whoopee! They made the playoffs in a conference where the 8th seed didn’t even win 40 games.

    Great accomplishment. I guess us typical blind/dumb Knick fans should know better.

  • Anonymous

    Whoopee! They made the playoffs in a conference where the 8th seed didn’t even win 40 games.

    Great accomplishment. I guess us typical blind/dumb Knick fans should know better.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    They didn’t need 40 wins to make the playoffs every one of the last 10 years either.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    They didn’t need 40 wins to make the playoffs every one of the last 10 years either.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about Billups, but Melo doesn’t bully ball and post up much anymore as he is a perimeter player now. I think he should play the perimeter role when amare is on the court and go back to posting up (prob his strongest ability) when he is off the court.

  • Anonymous

    28-23 and fired by Kerr at the All-Star break .It was 51 games, not wins.

  • Anonymous

    28-23 and fired by Kerr at the All-Star break .It was 51 games, not wins.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • WAGSY

    this isnt an endless game of musical chairs

    teams dont build chemistry this way

    Bench guys play UP if the STARS set the example for winning.

    Bench guys need to feel solid in their roles

  • WAGSY

    this isnt an endless game of musical chairs

    teams dont build chemistry this way

    Bench guys play UP if the STARS set the example for winning.

    Bench guys need to feel solid in their roles

  • Anonymous

    right.. he doesnt fill a need.. who neds a lock down perimeter defender who can hit threes and doesnt turn the ball over.. and it a winner..

    what about if Prince replaces most of this one trick pony roster dreck,

    It enables us to use TD and the immortal Billy Walker and even Fields as a trade chip.. and have leverage against Shawne.. and take minutes away from JJ..

    But he’s be a great 6th man getting starters minutes on the floor with Melo.. shoot.. i’d even consider starting him as a 2.

    on second thought he’s probably worth too much to accept a lower deal here.. maybe his back scares people off.. he’s one of the best vet FA’s available for sure. .. maybe coach billups can persuade him.

    i’d give him the full mid level over four years

  • Anonymous

    right.. he doesnt fill a need.. who neds a lock down perimeter defender who can hit threes and doesnt turn the ball over.. and it a winner..

    what about if Prince replaces most of this one trick pony roster dreck,

    It enables us to use TD and the immortal Billy Walker and even Fields as a trade chip.. and have leverage against Shawne.. and take minutes away from JJ..

    But he’s be a great 6th man getting starters minutes on the floor with Melo.. shoot.. i’d even consider starting him as a 2.

    on second thought he’s probably worth too much to accept a lower deal here.. maybe his back scares people off.. he’s one of the best vet FA’s available for sure. .. maybe coach billups can persuade him.

    i’d give him the full mid level over four years

  • Anonymous

    LOL. This is one of your more ridiculous responses man.

    You act like the Knicks roster also didn’t improve significantly for this season. Everyone expected us to make the playoffs.

  • Anonymous

    LOL. This is one of your more ridiculous responses man.

    You act like the Knicks roster also didn’t improve significantly for this season. Everyone expected us to make the playoffs.

  • Anonymous

    T PRince would be an amazing addition.. he’s a winner.. plays D.. hits shots and plays teh right way..

    I’d give him the FULL mid level over Sammy D.. and then fill in Center with some big bangers.. I’d even consider starting him at the 2 nut at least first guy off the bench.

    great idea.

  • Anonymous

    T PRince would be an amazing addition.. he’s a winner.. plays D.. hits shots and plays teh right way..

    I’d give him the FULL mid level over Sammy D.. and then fill in Center with some big bangers.. I’d even consider starting him at the 2 nut at least first guy off the bench.

    great idea.

  • Anonymous

    T PRince would be an amazing addition.. he’s a winner.. plays D.. hits shots and plays teh right way..

    I’d give him the FULL mid level over Sammy D.. and then fill in Center with some big bangers.. I’d even consider starting him at the 2 nut at least first guy off the bench.

    great idea.

  • Guest

    yeah,like D’Antoni did well on defense.His last 4 years in Phoenix they gave up
    105.0,102.9,102.8,103.3 LOL
    In the 7 years before he coached Phoenix they never had a 100+.they actually gave up an average of approx.95 points.I conclude they scored more but gave up over 8 points /game more.Thus No defense Antoni.

    Gentry had a 63.7% winning % in Phoenix through 2010 with an older less
    talanted
    version of the team .

  • http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

    looks like atl meets boston in the east finals

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

    Everyone expected the playoffs? Good one.

  • Anonymous

    Did the Knicks roster not improve significantly this offseason?

    You’re comparing apples to oranges by trying to act like Dantoni really accomplished something by taking a far superior roster than the one in the previous 10 years to the playoffs.

  • Anonymous

    Comparing that entire season’s stats for Gentry’s and D’Antoni’s Suns is misleading, as the Suns were a completely different team post-all star break. Look at what the Suns defensive stats were post all-star break – their opp FG % was 43.9% during that span. In 9 of these games, they held opponents below 40%. THAT’s why people were saying Gentry’s Suns played better defense then they ever did under D’Antoni.

    SOURCE: http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2010/04/forget_offense_the_phoenix_sun.html

  • JustKnowz

    Von Miller was crying at the NFL Draft… I wish him the best at Denver.. he must’ve had a hard life. Those were tears of struggle.

  • http://twitter.com/mjamal97 M. Jamal Green

    I like Billy Walker. He’s a great athlete and he can yoke it on anybody. I haven’t seen that he’s quick enough to guard the speedy 2′s in the league though and I just dont think he’s a great shooter. Sure he can hit a couple of treys here and there but I think he’s more of a scorer and we need someone who can fill it up and shoot it with consistency. That is if Mike D’antoni is still the coach. A new coach with a new philosophy may look at things differently

  • Anonymous

    wtf are you talking about?

    we don’t need another SF.

    We need a C, a backup PG, a CHEAP starting SG and a backup PF/C.

    Prince is none of these. You give Prince the MLE, might as well pack in the season cuz we still don’t have anyone to fill the needs listed above…..

  • Anonymous

    “fill in Center with some big bangers.”

    lol. yea, there are plenty of starting centers waiting around to play for the vet minimum. And a starting caliber backup PG?

    Why would we spend all of our money on a SF? it makes no sense whatsoever…..