Walsh Update…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EQF56K4ZWIE4NOASFB7TZB53WY Armand

If he thinks we gave up too much and walks away because of that, then he is an idiot and good riddance.

I do not think that’s the case though.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IRBXKEIXVMOUMM7CTZYDYIOCBQ speedster

We did give up too much for Melo and this is coming from one of the biggest Melo fans out there. Even holding on to Mozgov (we need centers) or Chandler (would not have been able to resign him but could have used him in sign and trade) would have been a much better trade. Hopefully Donnie feels he can find some hidden gems and can still build around the 2 stars. Mosgov was undrafted, after all, and even though Fields fell off the second half of the season, he was a steal for his draft position.

People who defend the Melo trade and refuse to admit we got hosed always say something to the effect of “well how did Gallo do in the postseason” or “Chandler didn’t do that great in the postseason” but here’s the thing. We got swept just like Denver, so if that was going to happen with either pre or post Melo Knicks, then what was so great about getting Melo? People would have gone bonkers if he went to The Nets but we still would have made the playoffs, still would have most likely lost in the first round…the difference is we would have had more young promising players to make deals with going forward for next year. Now we really have nothing.

Its not a diss on Melo, although if he is really serious about a championship he would have held out for free agency. I still think we can do it. If Melo and STAT lead by example and improve their defense, if we find some decent big men, if we can find a serviceable back up PG, and if TD, Fields, Walker and Williams can all show improvement, we can still climb that mountain. Its just going to be harder because of this trade.

The one thing we’ll never know is if Melo or Denver would have blinked if Walsh had been allowed to continue with his poker face. It seemed so close at one point to being the other way around, with Denver giving Melo away for nothing. But we’ll never know how it could have been so no reason dwelling on it, even though I just spent 4 paragraphs doing just that.

Anonymous

TOmmy, why are you comments so pro walsh. What if Dolan doesn’t think Walsh has done everything he promised and is not sure on a new contract. What if Dolan wants to have more say and does not want walsh to have all the power he wants anymore?
I for one am admittedly in the minority on Walsh I believe he has done a fair not a great job as GM. Now if I am measuring him based on past Knicks gms sure he has been better but not as great as I expected. I mean Walsh must be one of the most overrated basketball minds in the NBA. Tell me this Tommy how many Championships did Walsh bring Indiana? So why is he in the same conversation as big time GMs he has never built a championship team. In fact his resume is similar to D’Antoni in that they have a lot of regular season success but not much else to show for it. If Im Dolan I take a hard look at this fact. Walsh is the king of mediocrity. His teams never seem to get over the hump.
I dont care what anyone say Walsh struck out big time on Lebron and thats his failure. And if Miami wins it all its an even bigger loss. Walsh failed at plan A and in the mean time players he traded away are having success elsewhere. Soon or later Walsh has to run out of rope here. Now he wants another season to bring in another star that may or may not come. When is it just time to win with the guys you have? Two stars should be enough to win.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CNWZGJGLDEYT5T2LV33D7TYN4A Douglas

If he thinks this isn’t a team that can win over the next few years, then he should walk away with class and dignity and probably will.

This statement rubs me the wrong way. If the rumors are true that Donnie was overruled in the Carmelo trade, then I see the basis for it. Since the three extra days never occurred and Donnie has yet to write a tell-all book, I will leave any speculation surrounding the trade as just that.

But if he pulled the proverbial trigger? He’s the one who built this franchise and should not walk away because he feels the team cannot win. As I’ve said before, dumping the contracts was easy. Signing Amar’e was easy. Trading for Carmelo was not necessarily easy, but it will certainly prove easier than turning what this team is now into a legitimate title contender.

Donnie has done an admirable job thus far, but his work is far from over.

Anonymous

that would be a punk move by walsh if he walks because he thinks we cant win. he can leave for any other reason such as dolan, IT, age, family etc but if he walks because he think we cant win is just wrong

Anonymous

Who cares? This Walsh thing is sickening. Maybe he should just judge this situation against his Championship teams he Gm’d in the past. He needs to lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. And bring Dantoni with him!

Anonymous

Why good riddance? While Im happy we got melo, if he thinks we gave up too much because the owner stepped in and didnt let him do his job the best way he knew how then why stay in a place like that?

I love donnie and hope he stays, but dolan needs to let him do what he hires him to do.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EQF56K4ZWIE4NOASFB7TZB53WY Armand

If he thinks that way then he is an idiot.

Guest

Dolan, Walsh, and D’Antoni failed miserably to bring to New York the biggest prize in the 2010 free agent class. Stephen A. Smith runs his mouth a lot, but if he is to be believed, their pitch to LeBron was pathetically, laughably weak. I won’t be devastated if Walsh walks, especially if it’s indeed true that Isiah is out for good.

Anonymous

I donno I have to disagree.

He is a respected name and I believe having autonomy in making decisions should come with the job (Maybe this is me hating on dolan for the mess he’s made in the past).

But I think Donnie deserves to work with an organization that lets him do what hes so good at doing.

Guest

I think this statement is ridiculous,Donnie is a New Yorker,and NY’ers don’t bail,he will work with what we have we might of given too much but we had to do it, we have things we can do still we had pieces that nobody wanted too everyone is building our trade guys up but their value wasn’t that high to others,do you think if we trade Melo now we would not get more than what we gave.. I trade Fields to Portland for a swap of picks they get pour 17th and we get their 21 for Camby and we draft out point in Reggie Jackson with our 211st pick we solve our two problems right there center and point and we can get a two alot eaier than a point or center ,Caron Butler in FA would work to play two done ready to go to war.

Anonymous

I’m a huge Walsh supporter. Think he’s the best GM (President) we’ve had in a long long time. That being said, I think its clear he’d like to come back but not as much as going back to Indiana. IMO he’s waiting to see what happens with Bird. If Bird stays in Indiana Walsh will come back to NY. If Bird is out, Walsh is going back to the Pacers. Just how I see it.

Anonymous

When are people gonna understand that Lebron was never coming here…This idea that the pitch failed and that’s why Lebron didn’t come is laughable. Lebron had everyone fooled except for a few smart people who knew the plan all along was to team up with Wade.

And the plan was never about Lebron per se, although of course he was probably plan A. The plan was to get flexibility to get 2 superstars, and it worked pretty well I would say.

Guest

If Dolan had not interceded Melo would not be a Knick and if you do not have two superstars you have a problem obtaining a third. I would make the TRADE every day of the week and twice on Sunday.We got the two best players in the trade.When Billups(salary) becomes the third superstar,the TRADE will become more onesided in our favor.

When Felton,Chandler and Nene are gone Denver will be rebuilding with zero superstars and we already have two superstars.

Anonymous

This is another misconception that floats around here. The idea that saying the Knicks gave up too much for Melo means that people think Gallo and co. is better than Melo. Although some crazies on here seem to think that way, it doesn’t take away from the key point of that argument which is valid imo.

Did the Knicks have to give up everyone that they ended up giving up? Should there have been a cutoff at some point where it became cost-prohibitive to get Melo and the Knicks should have focused elsewhere (like Deron williams for example)?

Those are valid questions imo, especially when you now look at the state of our roster after our top 3 players.

Anonymous

if walsh walks, its more likely that it’s because he’s a sick man, not that they gave up too much in a trade

Guest

Donnie has not done a great job.He did not draft well and he hired D’Antoni.I would like to see both of them hit the road.Doc Rivers in 2012 and CP3 = championship run.Any GM(not named Isiah) given a four year contract could have rid us of bad salaries and without giving away our draft picks.

Anonymous

it doesn’t mean that he thinks they’re better. It may just mean that he thinks the knicks gave denver 30 wrinkly singles for a crisp new $20 bill. Either way you’re right, they’re all valid questions.

Anonymous

So, wait – if Donnie thinks that the trade was too much, he should walk away instead of fix it? WTH would that say about the man? All respect – POOF – gone. That’s classLESS.

(I do not believe Donnie will do that.)

http://twitter.com/tedhargecom Ted Harge

He’s Pro Walsh because he should be. Not only did Walsh strike out on Labron but so did every other Exec in the league except Riley. He missed his plan A and we still end up with Amare, Melo AND Chauncey! Whaaaat? … from where we came from. They would be a FOOL to let Walsh walk. He did what he came here to do, get us out of salary cap hell and into the playoffs, with a chance to be competitive for a Championship… We are all of that!

http://twitter.com/tedhargecom Ted Harge

He’s Pro Walsh because he should be. Not only did Walsh strike out on Labron but so did every other Exec in the league except Riley. He missed his plan A and we still end up with Amare, Melo AND Chauncey! Whaaaat? … from where we came from. They would be a FOOL to let Walsh walk. He did what he came here to do, get us out of salary cap hell and into the playoffs, with a chance to be competitive for a Championship… We are all of that!

http://twitter.com/tedhargecom Ted Harge

He’s Pro Walsh because he should be. Not only did Walsh strike out on Labron but so did every other Exec in the league except Riley. He missed his plan A and we still end up with Amare, Melo AND Chauncey! Whaaaat? … from where we came from. They would be a FOOL to let Walsh walk. He did what he came here to do, get us out of salary cap hell and into the playoffs, with a chance to be competitive for a Championship… We are all of that!

http://twitter.com/tedhargecom Ted Harge

I can’t believe how people just believe media! Who say things just to sell papers.

1. Walsh himself said it was his decisions and he was 100% behind the move/trade.

2. It’s actually the opposite: Walsh said he wanted to make sure the club was on the way to a championship. So if we were all set and heading to a championship he would view it as it’s ok to leave we’re in good hands. But if we’re not he still has work to do and will be back.

So if he comes back, maybe we should be concerned LOL … but at least we know someone capable is at the wheel!!

LOVE YOU DONNIE! You’re Da Man!!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IRBXKEIXVMOUMM7CTZYDYIOCBQ speedster

We got the best player in the deal for sure but the two best players? Not so sure. This isn’t 2006 or even 2009, Billups is arguably a wash with Felton. You may disagree but surely you can’t believe Billups is far and away better than every player we gave up.

Listen, like I said, I’m a big melo fan. Im glad he’s on our team. But I just think we could have held on to one more piece. Even keeping the Moz would have helped us a lot.

And you don’t know for a fact that Melo would not have become a Knick if Dolan hadn’t interceded. That is pure speculation.

Anonymous

“The plan was to get flexibility to get 2 superstars, and it worked pretty well I would say.”

Tommy’s gettin to your head, man.

Anonymous

“The plan was to get flexibility to get 2 superstars, and it worked pretty well I would say.”

Tommy’s gettin to your head, man.

Anonymous

“The plan was to get flexibility to get 2 superstars, and it worked pretty well I would say.”

Tommy’s gettin to your head, man.

http://twitter.com/tedhargecom Ted Harge

Yes I agree, I would have loved to hold on to one more peice, but we weren’t there it’s hard to gauge if Denver would have just went with the NJ offer. Melo already said he would have signed with NJ if nothing happened with NY. You can’t risk not getting Melo when you have the chance.

People forget so quickly how huge of an aquisition that is. In the future we’ll look back on this and it won’t even be a discussion. You could replace the other pieces we lost. All of them. How do you replace a Melo, if you missed out.

Anonymous

Extend Donnie and let him hire a General Manager, I’d like to see Pritchard get an interview.

We’ve had 3 drafts and 3 major trades without a GM with mixed results, it’s time to have our front office at full strength. I’d like our next GM in place before the draft and also to have a say in who’s brought in to add to _’antoni’s staff to handle the defense.

Anonymous

Melo himself admitted that he thought he would have been in NJ the next day

Anonymous

I have no idea what the point of this thread is. What I do know is that we are 3-5 moves (draft & coaching assistants included) from contending for the Eastern conf title next season. I really don’t care if it’s Walsh making the moves or one of you guys, so long as the moves are the right ones. It’s really not as difficult as people make it seem.

Anonymous

We gave up ALOT for Carmelo Anthony, but its a trade I would make 10 times out of 10. I would much rather build around Chauncey/Melo/Amare over Felton/Gallinari/Amare, with the former two third/fourth options at best on a championship team.

If Walsh leaves because he feels he can’t build a contender and wants to save face, he is soft. If it’s Dolan/Isiah/health, than I understand. Let Warkenstein take over.

Anonymous

Last year at this time, we were frustrated with another horrible losing season, but we had hope because we were looking to sign one or two superstars.

One year later, and we are frustrated because we now have two superstars, but we need to be creative to add some more players to compete for a championship.

I’m happier this year than last.

Thanks Donnie.

Anonymous

Nowitzki is 19-of-25 from the floor for 45 points against Gasol this series.

Maybe Gasol is soft?

Anonymous

How much do you think Kenyon Martin could demand in free agency?

Guest

No I heard Melo say several times he would have signed with NJ.It’s all about money.Almost always is.No speculation.,just the facts.

Anonymous

lol why. I’ve never said it was Lebron or bust on here. To say that would be absurd imo.

I always said if we retained enough flexibility and could acquire that 2nd superstar, it would be completely crazy to call the plan a failure.
Would you disagree?

Anonymous

Gasol is certainly playing soft. Pretty embarrasing that a guy of his talent is playing as poorly as he is right now.

Did you see the look on Phil Jackson’s face after Gasol made a mistake last night? That was classic. I think JVG called it a look of complete “disdain”. That was pretty crazy, but definitely deserved based on how bad Gasol has played.

Guest

Nothing close to the $16 million he made last year.Did not rebound well for a power foward and he is 33 years old.I can’t think of any teams under the cap that would pay anywhere near that amount.

Anonymous

” The idea that saying the Knicks gave up too much for Melo means that people think Gallo and co. is better than Melo.”

No, it just means that some of us would have liked to have one or two of those guys coming off the bench, if Dolan hadn’t blinked, so the Knicks would be that much closer to their goal.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

Gasol shouldn’t be guarding Nowitzki who’s clearly the best power forward in the game. He can’t guard him, period.

I wouldn’t call him soft but Gasol can be very soft at times. He’s very unpredictable in terms of aggressiveness and focus – and he’s been pathetic in the series against the Mavericks so far no question.

Anonymous

I think you do consider this a failure. Walsh’s plan, as of last June, was to sign two superstars AND still have Gallo and Chandler and this years 1st as flexibility to trade or do what was needed to fill the team. Now we have two superstars and very little flexibility. It’s great we have the stars, cause they are harder to come by, but it’s still not success.

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

pass on him

Anonymous

”
Donnie is a New Yorker,and NY’ers don’t bail,” Where’s Marbury from?????LOL

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

I’ve heard through mutliple sources that this is a conversation that is happening strictly between Walsh and Dolan. And Walsh is also negotiating with himself here. On one hand he has Judy, his beloved dogs and getting away from the relentless insanity of the New York coverage (yes, we play a part in this). There is an obvious issue with Isiah’s alleged meddling from the periphery. And, at 70 years old, how much does he want to deal with all of the nonsense that goes along with this job. Newsday

Anonymous

From what I’ve seen Dirk is pretty much unguardable at this point. He scoring inside, midrange, and bombing three’s with great success. Maybe Gasol could be less soft, but I don’t think Dirk would be bothered much.

Guest

I stand corrected LOL

In a message dated 5/7/2011 5:49:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:

Melo2penplaza wrote, in response to ReneNYG1:

”
Donnie is a New Yorker,and NY’ers don’t bail,” Where’s Marbury
from?????LOL

Link to comment: http://disq.us/1w4ktp

Anonymous

Here is what we actually traded for Melo, both directly and indirectly;

Felton

Chandler

Gallo

Mozgov

Randolph

2012 2nd round pick (Warriors)

2013 2nd round pick (Warriors)

2014 1st round pick

$3 million in cash

plus
we took back two back bad contracts

Balkman 2 years at $1,675 million

Billups $14.2 million

That’s a lot for player that was on the verge of free agency and not resigning with Denver.

Anonymous

LeBron was the plan. It’s not just about ‘two maxes,’ one of those maxes had to be LeBron. seansherm has a good point, too.

Anonymous

I guess we just understand success differently.

While obviously your idea is much preferrable to the way things actually worked it, I still think this is a “success” in terms of the definition of what success is.

To take the roster we had and turn it into one with 2 out of 10 allstar starters on it is a success in my book. I really just don’t get how it can be qualified as anything else.

Anonymous

jeez….You’re a tough person to please haha.

Imo, as I said above, you’re defining success way too narrowly.

The plan was still a success, just not as succesful as it could have been.

Anonymous

I don’t even think it’s a matter of softness on the defensive end for Gasol. Everyone knew coming into this series that it was an impossible matchup for Gasol.

I think Gasol is being incredibly soft on the offensive end. The thinking was that he would make Dirk pay on the other end of the floor and just go at Dirk to maybe tire him out a little.

But he actually seems afraid to be aggressive and go strong to the hoop, where he has a big advantage over Dirk. Instead he’s taking Dirk like jumpers that he has no business taking imo.

Anonymous

Well to b honest. If Walsh Go Dantoni Prolly goes to. Im pretty sure many ppl here wud like that lol.. i wud like him walsh back.but i dont understand the wait, if u wana resign the resign if not u can leave

BTW Tommy i still cant post using my phone..WTH is going on..FIX IT!!!

Anonymous

i dont see why donnie would feel that we gave up too much for melo if he just picked up billups’ contract. if he felt we gave up too much, then he would of used that 14mil to fill out the roster.

Anonymous

Ds2488 – my comment that it wasn’t a success may be a bit strong. Your right in that it has been succesful, just not to the level of “the plan”. Unfortunately, that does mean he failed at “the plan”, but doesn’t mean its been a total failure.

Anonymous

i will love 2get him.. he saidat this point in his caree his top priority is winning not $

Anonymous

the knicks future is not bright. guys the knicks are not going to win a championship anytime soon. melo is the next iverson

Anonymous

if nyk doesnt win a chip soon, or come close, its not cuz of melo. you think we had a chance with gallo/wil/felton? hell no. and its not cuz of getting melo did we pick up billups’ team option. im sure donnie didnt pick up his option with no game plan in mind for the future. the knicks’ future is bright. ppl just like to panic too much and listen to frank asshola too much.

Anonymous

He strongly hinted that if the Knicks didn’t trade for him, he was going to accept the deal with NJ. Its a lot, but its really not that bad when you consider that we got Randolph, and the picks for Lee (who was an unrestricted free agent), Mozgov was an undrafted rookie, and Felton we had just signed as a free agent. Donnie got all of those players in the offseason without sacrificing any players or picks. The three significant assets we gave up are Gallo, Chandler (a restricted free agent), and a 2014 pick. Both those guys play Melo’s position, and the pick isn’t even for another 3 years. Not all that bad considering we got maybe the best offensive player in the game.

Anonymous

The donnie worship in this piece is bordering on pathological.

He’s trying to get the best deal for himself. Not rocket science. He wants more control of hires. He should have automonomy on basketball decisions within a pre arranged budget. Justlike any other president of basketball operations

Guest

Billups not a bad contract if it turns into CP3 or D.Howard. It is a trade you make anytime you can. A good GM would get back our depth with extra draft picks ,vet minimums and MLE.Stop your crying. You do not know how close he came to becoming a NJ Net .

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P4LIWY7PKZPEAMBLUH2DF2IUIU True

What is Donnie Walsh, God? So what if he leaves? Why are people so enamored with Walsh? Any one of the 3 former GM’s the Knicks have on payroll can step in and do just as good a job. I think it’s because DW is so well liked that so many people would hate to see him go. The press loves him, too.

But as a fringe benefit, he’d probably take Damphoney with him.

Anonymous

Melo shoots like 40 points higher than iverson and is a great responder. Not even close

PS we know youre a nets fan.

Anonymous

Melo. Wasnt. Going. To. Become. A. Free. Agent.

Get that through your head. He’s mentioned many times that he thought he would have been a Net at the deadline.

Guest

Donnie Walsh is way over rated as a GM.He did not draft well,he gave up too many draft picks in making cap space and he brought in Antoni.Any GM not named Isiah could have got us out of bad contracts.

Guest

Donnie Walsh is way over rated as a GM.He did not draft well,he gave up too many draft picks in making cap space and he brought in Antoni.Any GM not named Isiah could have got us out of bad contracts.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

I predict Scott Brooks will be fired in ’12 or ’13. I never jumped on the bandwagon, I’m not saying he’s a bad coach but – to me – he’s just another overhyped COY.

I love Mike Conley and Tony Allen by the way. And Marc Gasol is a beast.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

I predict Scott Brooks will be fired in ’12 or ’13. I never jumped on the bandwagon, I’m not saying he’s a bad coach but – to me – he’s just another overhyped COY.

I love Mike Conley and Tony Allen by the way. And Marc Gasol is a beast.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

I predict Scott Brooks will be fired in ’12 or ’13. I never jumped on the bandwagon, I’m not saying he’s a bad coach but – to me – he’s just another overhyped COY.

I love Mike Conley and Tony Allen by the way. And Marc Gasol is a beast.

Anonymous

Look at the last ten years of NBA champions:

Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Pistons, Heat

Each team has had 1-2 superstars, and 3-4 good, solid role players.

Except maybe the Pistons, who won with their defense, this is the way you need to build a champion.

Whether you get lucky in the draft like Duncan/Spurs or Wade/Heat or you sign a free agent like Shaq/Lakers,Heat or you make a huge trade for a star like Garnett/Celtics this is how a champion team is made.

We drafted Fields and Douglas.

We signed Amare as a free agent.

We traded for Carmelo.

At the time, the Celtics took a lot of heat for trading too much to get Garnett, but it worked out, didn’t it?

I’m happy with the direction of the team.

A couple more key pieces, and we are there.

I don’t know why so many people on here are so negative on our future.

The future is now.

Anonymous

GReat!!! go to the PAcers he can help bring them noooooooooo championships like he did for 20 years with reggie. THe guy is overrated and he should take D’Antoni with him. YOu know what worse than watch medocrity year after year? Watching a team with two stars be mediocre year after year. Building a team is not just about signing stars its about putting the right players together. Not every player can play together and not every star can work together. From I saw Amar’e and Carmelo each looked happier when other was out of the game that not good at all. I am not convinced they are a good match. You got two superstars who need to dominate the ball to be effective. Neither is great defensively despite their athletic gifts. If I could trade one for Howard I would do it in a heart beat because a superstar like Howard does not need the ball to dominate.
Walsh just thinks you can plunk stars together and make an championship team but its more complicated than that you need the right mix of stars and role players not just any stars. But Im not surprised Walsh has never won anything in his long career with the Pacers and you cant teach old dogs new tricks.

And lastly Is anyone really confident Amar’e and Melo can do this together? Is anyone really confident that two players who must score 25 or 30 a game to be effective can win? Is anyone confident that next year these two players will wake up after their long careers and decide to play consistent defense night in and night out? It is easy to cover one stars defensive limitations which is why Id trade Melo for Howard if even possible but to cover two stars defensive limitations is a tall order to fill. I just hope they come more inspired defensively next season, but how can any expect that.

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

z-bo 21-21

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

z-bo 21-21

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

westbrook wants his own team

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

westbrook wants his own team

Anonymous

furthermore i keep hearing about getting Sammy Dal no thank you!! the guy is lazy and inconsistent. And he is not a banger. He prefers to stand out 14 feet away and take jump shots. He disappears for weeks at a time and them has game that teases the hell out and then disappears for another two weeks. Be careful what you wish for folks.

You want a center who can step in right away and be an impact player. TRADE YOU FIRST ROUND SELECTION. Who would I trade for my first round pick for Jason Thompson, Jevale Mcgee, or a sign a trade for DeAndre Jordan. Everyone wants a draft choice but anyone we get wont help for a few years. Trade the pick and get someone who can actually help us right now.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

“Each team has had 1-2 superstars, and 3-4 good, solid role players.”

The Knicks MIGHT have 3 of the 6 players in that equation. MIGHT.
#shotsfired

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

“Each team has had 1-2 superstars, and 3-4 good, solid role players.”

The Knicks MIGHT have 3 of the 6 players in that equation. MIGHT.
#shotsfired

Anonymous

Westbrook will be the reason why Durant and himself won’t win a championship together. He doesn’t know how to set him up or anything and looks to score himself too much. When you have arguably the best scorer in the league playing next to you, you defer almost always. He does it almost never.

Anonymous

Westbrook will be the reason why Durant and himself won’t win a championship together. He doesn’t know how to set him up or anything and looks to score himself too much. When you have arguably the best scorer in the league playing next to you, you defer almost always. He does it almost never.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

LeBron has become an excellent midrange jumpshooter. He was already a great player in Cleveland but he’s taking his game to the next level in Miami – it’s scary. I’m not his biggest fan and I love to root against him but I’ve learned to appreciate his game.

Anonymous

$14.2 million for Chauncey Billups is a bad deal. No doubt about it. Please explain how we are going to turn Chauncey Billups into CP3 or Howard.

Anonymous

Melo was on the VERGE of free agency. Wrap your eyeballs around that
word. Denver had to move him. That should have reduced what we paid, not
increased it.

The Nets gave up Harris, Favors, and 2 of
their first round picks to get Deron Williams. They didn’t take back any
bad contracts. They didn’t give up any starters, other than Harris, who
they didn’t even want. That’s about half of what we paid for Melo.

We
got played by the Nets and Denver. They conspired to drive the price up
and put the Knicks back into cap space misery. We were bidding against
ourselves.

Denver had the Nets’ offer on the table for months. If they wanted to trade him to NJ, he would have been there.

Guest

Billups and Turiaf = 18.2 million.You are still in love with the ex Knicks.How can you not understand that to compete with the Heat you need superstars.I detailed in my posts how if we get a two extra draft picks we can add the depth we lost in the TRADE.We are building a foundation for 2012.Melo-Stat-CP3-Anthony Parker
Charles Jenkins-Nolan Smith-Grant Hill (see my posts today and yesterday)

I know you do not care that Melo would be a Net if Dolan has not interceded.You always cherrypick my posts and never really reply.I do not consider you to be a Knick fan.

Guest

Billups and Turiaf = 18.2 million.You are still in love with the ex Knicks.How can you not understand that to compete with the Heat you need superstars.I detailed in my posts how if we get a two extra draft picks we can add the depth we lost in the TRADE.We are building a foundation for 2012.Melo-Stat-CP3-Anthony Parker
Charles Jenkins-Nolan Smith-Grant Hill (see my posts today and yesterday)

I know you do not care that Melo would be a Net if Dolan has not interceded.You always cherrypick my posts and never really reply.I do not consider you to be a Knick fan.

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

celtics not looking good at all

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

celtics not looking good at all

Guest

He was never going to free agency.(I thought you were stubborn yet smart)If he went to free agency he would not get his $85 million.Wrap your head around that.No STATISTICS ,just common sense.

BTW Deron Williams has not signed an extension with the NJ Nets.They will wind up with egg on their face if he plays out his contract.

Last but not least.Denver may not have Chandler nor Felton much longer.You over value the EX KNICKS.All mediocre players.

Guest

He was never going to free agency.(I thought you were stubborn yet smart)If he went to free agency he would not get his $85 million.Wrap your head around that.No STATISTICS ,just common sense.

BTW Deron Williams has not signed an extension with the NJ Nets.They will wind up with egg on their face if he plays out his contract.

Last but not least.Denver may not have Chandler nor Felton much longer.You over value the EX KNICKS.All mediocre players.

Anonymous

Amare and Carmelo = 2 superstars

Billups, Fields, Douglas = I consider them good, solid role players.

That’s why I said in my post “a couple more key pieces and we are there”

Anonymous

Amare and Carmelo = 2 superstars

Billups, Fields, Douglas = I consider them good, solid role players.

That’s why I said in my post “a couple more key pieces and we are there”

Mustarda

He wasn’t.

“Me personally, I thought I was going to end up in New Jersey.” – Carmelo Anthony.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=new-yorkknicks&id=4908

Mustarda

He wasn’t.

“Me personally, I thought I was going to end up in New Jersey.” – Carmelo Anthony.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=new-yorkknicks&id=4908

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

What about Delonte?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

What about Delonte?

Anonymous

F lebron i hope the curse is on miami

Anonymous

F lebron i hope the curse is on miami

Anonymous

Lets go Celtics

Anonymous

Lets go Celtics

Anonymous

Rondo “I can beat you with 1 hand tied behind my back”

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

I hate him too.

He’s been a non-factor in this game – absolutely pathetic. I can’t complain.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

I hate him too.

He’s been a non-factor in this game – absolutely pathetic. I can’t complain.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

One of my favorite players in the NBA. Can’t question his heart and toughness.

http://twitter.com/BillySuede Billy Suede

@jaymanjd:disqus

do you like any gm of the teams you like? you parrot the same lines over and over whether it be here or the giants blog. walsh doesn’t get lebron so he’s a failure? get out of here with that nonsene.

http://twitter.com/BillySuede Billy Suede

@jaymanjd:disqus

do you like any gm of the teams you like? you parrot the same lines over and over whether it be here or the giants blog. walsh doesn’t get lebron so he’s a failure? get out of here with that nonsene.

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

celtics much better in the second half

http://www.youtube.com/tharealest62qb DaGawD

celtics much better in the second half

Anonymous

Zach Randolph had 21 pts 21 rebs today………..Did Amare have 21 rebs all year?

Anonymous

Zach Randolph had 21 pts 21 rebs today………..Did Amare have 21 rebs all year?

Anonymous

that what im talking about celtics take miami to school

Anonymous

that what im talking about celtics take miami to school

Anonymous

ffurthermore you are long winded

Anonymous

ffurthermore you are long winded

Guest

Owners have say,how can an owner never have say he laysout the cash,getting Melo was a good step in move bravo for him and Donnie almost blew it by holding on to over hyped chips IMO.I love Donnie but I can understand his point too you have Spike Lee yelling at Dolan to keep Fields and this is not the way to run and manage a team.Fields will be the first guy traded IMO so Donnie shows who’s boss and besides he’s our only trading chip.

Anonymous

Post of the year. People are just never happy around here.

Anonymous

He was just on the View the other day so I tuned in to hear what he’d say and he said he thought he’d end up a Net.

Anonymous

He was just on the View the other day so I tuned in to hear what he’d say and he said he thought he’d end up a Net.

Anonymous

Yup he said that on the View when he appeared with LaLa.

Anonymous

I agree with your second paragraph completely but there is a lot of Donnie hate around here too not just love. Which is understandable. I mean we should totally hate a guy who got us under the cap for the first time in a decade and landed us Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony in the same year. LOL, its a joke. The love should be shown more IMO.

Anonymous

If any GM could have gotten us out of bad contract why were we over the cap for a decade?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y26AF7PFS6R2AFGCWMPRLHFVXE carl

“Any GM not named Isiah could have got us out of bad contracts.” did you sleep through the Scott Layden years?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

Amare and Carmelo are nowhere near the caliber of the players that have lead title teams in the NBA. Get that through your heads.

Anonymous

Hahn writes like DOnnie is some immortal from another planet who should be revered.

we all know that Isiah will never be in charge.. the fear mongering using the boogie man as the villain is so see through. IF donnie walks away and goes back to his home for 30 years in Indiana then we’ll be fine.

Donnie has done good and bad just like everyone else. And he had to throw away two full seasons to get there .. i get the lebron stuff but sometimes it’s made out like Stat had options beyond us and he was the plan A.

what ever.. it cuts both ways your right..

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y26AF7PFS6R2AFGCWMPRLHFVXE carl

Danny Ainge was almost ran out of Boston, til his assistant G.M.[Kevin Mchale] stepped in to save his a**, til “THE GIFT OF GIFTS” took place, he had done nothing, even Doc was on the hot seat, look at them now! friends look out for friends in the NBA G.M. circle, look at the Lakers, and the Spurs getting Duncan was a fluke, the Spurs were a good team before the draft, because of a fluke season that year, they hit the jack pot, you need some luck to be successful as a G.M., period! [and, yeah, Walsh get too much credit]

Anonymous

It’s a lame technique to resort to personal attacks when you are asked to detail how your roster will be assembled under a salary cap. So here’s another chance for you to explain how you will get this team on the court.

How are you going to sign Dalembert, Grant Hill, Carl Landry, and Parker as we are over the cap at $59.7 million? Those four players will probably command between $20-25 million in salary for next year.

Here’s your team from yesterday.

2011-12 NY Knicks Roster_____________________
Carmelo Anthony – S.Dalambert – Stat
Grant Hill – R.Turiaf – Carl Landry N. Vucevic

Anthony Parker C. Billups
Charles Jenkins Nolan Smith
Landry Fields

Anonymous

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lmao Chris Bosh just abruptly left the press conference b/c he was mad nobody had anymore questions for him lol, sucks being in the shadow of batgirl and robin lol

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BJTD7K36QTWRAPU7MHUKAWE3YE NoVaCaInE

Batgirl?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

Paul Pierce was the best player on a championship team – Carmelo Anthony has proven that he can be the same.

We need to find the right players to help Anthony and Stoudemire (a center, a back-up center, a back-up point guard) and implement a consistent and effective defensive system.

Mustarda

Now THAT is funny

Anonymous

you’re right I just edited it lol

Anonymous

He actually said, “With the Knicks, it came down to the last hour before the trade
deadline, and it happened. Me personally, I thought I was going to end
up in New Jersey.”

You do know that Melo was traded a few days before the deadline, so I’m not buying any of this quote.

Anonymous

Bosh Spice had a prior engagement with Gasoft they’re going to get mani pedis and have some girl talk.

Anonymous

lmao @ mani pedis, what kills me is they were supposed to be a big 3 but why do they always have lebron and wade doing interviews together and never all 3 or interchanging either wade/lebron with bosh smh lol I can see this dude wanting out when his contract is up if they don’t win a ring.

Guest

As usual you read what you wanted to see.I also wrote we may not be able to get Dalambert and I said tradeB.Walker,R.Balkman and TD =$ 3.4m .I also said release all but the big three and Turiaf.A.parker is MLE and G.Hill for vet minimum.All rookies come under the rookie exemption and the MLE can be used to go over the cap.Any other players to fill out the roster are allowed at minimum salaries.

Anonymous

without any cap roomits gonna be real difficult

Anonymous

best offensive player in the game?which one was that? .it also wasnt bad,if you compare it to another great Donnie Walsh trade….Zach Randolph for Tim Thomas

Anonymous

ehh I would say he’s a streaky shooter much like lebron jr (D. rose), he doesn’t quite put that fear in my heart when he shoots the ball that Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Melo, etc do. Especially with free throws, its always a hit or miss with him never consistant

Anonymous

he’s been watching too much of the D. Rose show

Anonymous

It’s obvious both he and D’Antoni think the team gave up too much, but getting paid a few million to do what you enjoy doing has a way of making people swallow their pride and deal with an asshole like Dolan.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

No, Paul Pierce was not the best player on a championship team. That team also had 4 Hall of Famers overall.

Anonymous

Meet Knicks pre-draft prospect Peterson

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/4982/meet-pre-draft-prospect-jamine-peterson

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K2GJP6JV6II7ERBYC6G7PVQJPA Witold Mucha

1. Pierce was unquestionably the Celtics best player during the 2008 playoffs.

2. That team had two other Hall-of-famers at the time – Rondo was nothing more than a solid role player 3 years ago.

3. When you have 2 players who command a double-team, you should be able to contend for championships if you surround them with quality role players and implement a defensive system.

OLD KNICK

LANDRY FIELDS GONE? WE HARDLY KNEW YOU!
“According to a source….. Landry Fields MAY be involved in a trade and
switch of draft picks. The source did not reveal whom was involved but
it looks like the end of Landry in a Knick Uniform. However, the source
stated that the once prized Rookie was expendable due to the Knick’s
dire need for a Center and PG. Sorry all you Fields fans but it makes
sense and he is expendable if you want to win NOW. The speculation is
whom we are getting in return. “It is a Veteran” the source said, but
would not say if it was a PG or Center. However, it will also bring an
end to the “Andy & Landry show.” The Source did emphatically State
that Andrew Bynum was not involved in this upcoming Scenario. Good Luck
Landry…if this does happen, we hardly knew you and you won’t get the
chance to disappear in another round of the playoffs wearing a knick
Jersey! “Amare is on the 3/4 meter of his prime” is the main reason the
knicks can’t wait 3-4 years for Landry to develop, the source stated.
Don’t shoot the messenger! ”

http://www.knicksfanaticsblog.com/2011-articles/may-2011/landry-fields-gone-we-hardly-knew-you.html

OLD KNICK

Dwight Howard to NY Knicks: Why Amar’e Stoudemire Isn’t Going to Orlando Magic

“The NBA playoffs have not yet concluded and already there is
speculation about who is going where via trade or free agency next
season.Everyone is talking about the possible destination in
regards to 2012 free agents to be Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Deron
Williams.And can you really blame them?The Summer of 2012
has the potential to be considered second wave of the Summer of 2010,
when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Amar’e Stoudemire headlined a class
of elite free agents.However, it also has the potential to be
quite dull should the top free agent prospects get dealt and sign
extensions before next Summer.Amidst all this speculation,
somehow a scenario has developed that would land the Magic’s Dwight
Howard in New York, with the Knicks Stoudemire heading to Orlando.Really?Now,
I’m not belittling the prospect of Howard coming to the Knicks. He
would bring a defensive state of mind to an offensive oriented team.
Simply put, he would be a great addition.But not at the expense of Stoudemire.Stoudemire had a career year for New York. He averaged 25.3 points, 8.2 rebounds and nearly two blocks a game this season. To
be fair though, Howard had a career year as well. He averaged 22.9
points, 14.1 rebounds, 2.4 blocks and over one steal per game.Clearly
there is not much of a statistical difference. The numbers show that
Stoudemire is better on the offensive end, while Howard is more skilled
on the defensive.Cue the critics.Many will say that the
only statistical category Stoudemire led in was points scored, with only
a 2.4 points per game difference anyway. Many will also say that
Howard’s rebounding makes up for the point differential, and it
certainly does, but stats do not tell the whole story.Let’s put
aside the fact that if Orlando puts Howard on the trading block, they
will be looking to rebuild, and taking on Stoudemire’s bloated contract
would be a step in the opposite direction.Let’s put aside the reality that with Mike D’Antoni as the head coach, Stoudemire is a better fit in New York.And
let’s put aside that Howard withstood the rigors of the regular season
with ease while Stoudemire’s bill of health is questionable at best.”

Anonymous

gox crowker

Anonymous

You can’t trade this years first round pick based on the rules!
Remember we traded last years as well as next years.
Were have you been?

Anonymous

The Nets gave up Harris and the equivilant of three LOTTERY picks!
That’s not chicken scratch.

Anonymous

And I almost forgot…………
That was with no guarantee to resign Williams.

OLD KNICK

But seriously folks concerning dirk…

WHO EVER HEARD OF A 7’1″ JUMP SHOOTER ????

Has the NBA ever had anything like this??? Nah!!! I remember when people were complaining about Bird saying at 6’10″ he was too big to guard when he can shoot so well. But at 7’1″ shooting fade away jump shots and shooting well, there is really no way to guard this guy. Is he a PF??? NO!! But who cares. He is hard to describe. By the way as far as Pau gasol being soft. Well dirk diggler has made him appear soft.

Anonymous

No I actually love Reese. Im not a fan of some of the selections he made this draft but he at least has proven success. Walsh not so much.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EDMCW6W47JRZ4NHWT3NGSVSLUU RUBE

Great, just what the doctor ordered; another small forward…lol

Anonymous

He’s improved, but still not a great midrange player IMO. That and clutchness are the only things that Melo has over Lebron

Anonymous

@TheHonorableHaS:disqus

hahahhahahaha!!! GO CELTS SUCKAH!!!!

come on man, i know a team that plays defense and has heart when i see it bro.

Anonymous

It’s always good to start with a personal dig and again you can’t explain much. How are you going to trade Balkman without talking back a salary? Walker isn’t on the cap. So that doesn’t count. You might get a second round pick for TD.

If you release everyone, but the big three and Turiaf, we are still over the cap. You still have cap holds for the 1st round pick and 10 vacant roster spots. Melo, Amare, Billups,and Turiaf are at $55 million+ and the first round pick is $1.4 million. Add in 10 more roster spots at $4.75 million and you are over the cap at $61 million plus.

So then we are stuck with the veteran’s minimum and the MLE, if it still exists. That was about $5.7 million and all we will have to sign free agents. I’d love to get Grant Hill at the minimum, but he going to get offers. If Donnie can get Carl Landry and Parker for that, he is GM of the year.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BJTD7K36QTWRAPU7MHUKAWE3YE NoVaCaInE

“However, it will also bring an end to the “Andy & Landry show.”

Send Rautins with him!!!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_43U6HM6DWOQX2YO3Z77UIH6PMQ Mel

really….it’s hard to cover up two stars defensive liabilities…..so how do you explain Chicago’s….Boozer and D. Rose. They were both defensive liabilities at one point.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

WTF?

1. Kevin Garnett?

2. At MINIMUM, Ray Allen is a Hall of Famer as well (that’s three). Rondo will probably be one, and splitting hairs about what the media thought he was at a certain point in time is irrelevant.

3. Throwing offensive studs together doesn’t automatically make you a title contender. That has been proven over and over again throughout history. It’s a very simplistic view on the NBA. These other duos people throw around as they compare to Amare/Carmelo are better than them. I never got how people expected this to suddenly make the Knicks legit contenders when LeBron James/Dwyane Wade was sitting around, both clearly better than either guy coming back to this team, PLUS Bosh, PLUS better roster flexibility due to Billups’ inclusion. There’s no part of being a Knicks fan that requires ignorance.

The Superstars approach is well and good assuming those superstars aren’t redundant and both bring it on both sides of the ball.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3RGKXYRB3RFODDMZLHZFE7JGFE NAC

Dirk Nowitzki has been in the NBA for 12 years, fyi.

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