Walsh Would Have Stayed if He Could Have Hired Mullin?

Benman’s source clearly says that it was PARTLY related to control in hiring his successor.

he would have needed a hell of a lot of grooming……Adonal Foyle

In fact, the source said if owner James Dolan had granted Walsh permission to hire Mullin last summer as GM, Walsh likely would still be the president

In fact, the source said if owner James Dolan had granted Walsh permission to hire Mullin last summer as GM, Walsh likely would still be the president

Who knows what the truth is on that.  I thank Donnie for turning the direction of the franchise around and wish he was still with the team to finish the job.  But I can’t imagine that that is the full reason why he left.  The same story said he had a verbal agreement but he changed the language at the last minute.  If he was that close to a deal, then hiring Mullin as GM wasn’t the dealbreaker, and there may have been other stuff.  I can’t trust all of these “sources”, what they know, why they are leaking what theyleak, and what the truth actually is.  But like Mucha said before, I’m not a huge Mullin fan as a GM, so I can’t go crazy with this.  I had wanted Donnie to stay, but we’ll move on.

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Who is foolin who??? What did I type that is fooling myself? Telling you to get over it already!!! Come on kid stop the ridiculous talk. Just let it go and move on or like I said Kill yourself if u cant take it already!!! WTF???

walsh is gone. back home to Indiana. time to move on.

The living legend that is Mosgov.  Only Knick fans. 

I agree about Barnes.  Trevor Ariza was also a nice find. 

Warkenstein was the guy who got the Nuggets Billups for Iverson and picked up “Birdman” Anderson, leading them to the WCF while keeping them under the luxury tax. Won executive of the year in 09

When will free agency start?

I don’t even have words for the attitude you seem to be expressing. Why don’t you just hand Dolan your 401k and life insurance policies while you’re at it.

A few days after the lockout ends.

You’re arguing that we as fans should not even discuss the idea that the organization is being run poorly by an egomaniacal idiot because we can’t personally do anything about it. You’re either invested in the Knicks or not. You might as well watch some kids play NBA2K from 7-10 during the season if the workings/competence of the front office are of no interest to you. 

Just (1) give Dolan your money and (2) shut up. That seems to be your point. And it’s dumb.

let’s point out the stupidity of spending, literally, years of your life coming here to complain about D’Antoni nonstop and then following that up with a call to end criticism of the man who HIRED, RETAINS, and PAYS D’Antoni along with everyone else employed by the team. You don’t make sense.

I’m sorry but if this is true, Walsh’s ego was totally out of control. Which championshipless coach or GM has ever had the audacity to walk away from contract negotiations because the deal did not include a clause granting him the right to name his successor when he decided to step down? Say what you want about Dolan. But you can’t knock him for this one. 

Again If this is true, Walsh has allowed NY “media” to fill his head with so much gas that he missed his opportunity to maybe get his FIRST ring as a GM.

how about, “you’re right. I missed the sentence prior to the one I pointed out.”

 i originally included Ariza (you can also include Lee) in my list, but i was thinking more about free agents.

Moz was certainly a very good FA pickup. Knicks would be fortunate  to find another Moz for next year….

 what else is he gonna post about?

Ok Jr, Let’s fire Dolan! lol

We know Dolan is an issue here.  It surely starts at the top but most of us here just want our team to play good b-ball.  You can surely go about your daddy’s employer but we se your dad as being a big reason why our team doesn’t play defense or do the little teams good teams do.

But if you need to bash Dolan, I’ll agree in that Dolan needs to fire your dad and start making his employees accountable as well. 

“The revolving door with coaches, players, and executives over Dolan’s reign surely hasn’t been the cause of the Knicks’ woes . . .”

Actually I would argue that has been a huge part of it.

Didn’t Walsh sign Amare before Lebron’s decision?  How was that a panic move?

And as quiet as it’s kept, according to sources I’ve read, Walsh regretted hiring Dantoni also.

Have no clue. I miss Knicks news.

lol…FALSE

“should have waited for something better to come along”

You and New York fans would have roasted him for doing that, wasting two years for nothing.

New York fans are never happy SMH

How does Gallinari, Douglas, and Landry Fields fall under “horrid drafts”?

Moz barely played for us. Few (including I) wanted him to be featured more earlier on during the season but he wasn’t

LOL..more True than you know Tommy Dee.

You mean like when he started from Day 1 of the season?

The revisionist history in this comments section is incredible.

Anyone who watched the knicks knew they had assets and pretty decent depth going into last season.

Now we have no depth except at young/inexperienced tweeners (TD, Iman, and Fields).

And you are absolutely wrong Knicks4life. The Melo trade was good because we got the best player in the deal, but far from “very good”. “Very good” would be using our leverage to either keep more assets or bring more assets back. Instead, Denver totally maximized their leverage and got a very good return for a a malcontent who shows up for roughly half of the games he plays…..

Don’t 4get D-Will………..like Walsh did

Let’s see,

Apparently Donnie Walsh’s work was worthless, yet this is a franchise that has been competitive for all of about 8 out of the last 40 years. Good call.

Everything is real easy when our memories extend 4 months and Jim Dolan is off limits.

Lol. “absoultely wrong” is a little strong don’t you think.

Who did we give up that was really a part of our future with Melo here? Chandler and Gallo would have come off of the bench and both are looking for contract extensions in the near future. Mosgov is out of the league.

Felton is the only one who I would have really wanted to keep and Denver already traded him. I didn’t love the trade because we gave up draft picks and depth so I won’t rate it “great.” We got the best two players in the deal, so I don’t see how that is not a very good trade, especially if Billups stays healthy for the whole year.

It’s not a matter of the alternative. He had to fix the cap situation. But the reality is that any nitwit can get a team under the cap fairly quickly by making bad deals and giving up young prospects and draft picks.

He should be judged based on the merits of the moves.

Did he get good value in his trades or did he give up too much to dump a bad contract?

Did he miss much better players in the draft that were available to the Knicks?

Did he select any busts or major disappointments with high picks?

Did he overpay any free agents, get any great deals, pay most fair prices?

Did he give up too much value in trades for players that he really wanted?

Did he hire good coaches, medical staff etc…

When you weigh it all out, IMO he did about an average job. But average is so much better than Isiah and the previous decade, that’s why most Knicks fans and the media give him a lot of credit. They are used to worse. IMO, a great executive would have cleared the cap and put together a much stronger team by making better deals and drafting as well or better.

the alternative was to hold on to the money until something better came along.I would take two or three above average players,who play both ways smartly,instead of Amare any day of the week.

thats another thing that Walsh should be lambasted for.Waisting those two years,instead of building on the fly,Making all of that cap room for the pipe dream that King Jackass would sign with Knicks.what a waist of time.Walsh ,more than anything else,IMO,made fansDantoni.Mike Dantoni had to coach his first two years here with a revolving door roster full of lousy players.And believe me,im no Dantoni fan

Lol

He should be compared to ALL his peers – in other words he should be compared to the crappy ones like we’ve had in NY for quite awhile and the great ones that consistently seem to make good trades and drafts. Then you have an honest assessment of where he fits in and how good he was. He’s probably somewhere in the upper end of the middle, but he’s treated like he was special in NY because he’s incorrectly only being compared to the losers we’ve had here.

Moz is out of the league? I thought he had a 3 year contract……

Anyways, any of the players we traded could have helped us win at least one game against Boston. That sweep was an absolute embarrassment. We couldn’t have used Wilson or Gallo with Amare hurt? How about Moz in there instead of JJ or Sheldon? How about a healthy Felton instead of the ancient one?

And you are acting like Gallo, Wilson, and/or AR couldn’t have been used in trades. Just because they were unlikely to have a future here doesn’t mean they couldn’t have helped us fill in the MANY holes of this team through trade or added depth. You wouldn’t love to have Wilson as backup SF/PF?

The trade was very disappointing because we really had a lot of leverage which was squandered. I would be very happy to either have more after the trade…….or have deron Williams for a better price and see Melo in NJ looking like a complete jacka$$……

Okay thank you.

Walsh was not trying to hear that pay cut after bringing the Knicks back to relevance.
I don’t blame him for bouncing. Dolan’s loyalty is garbage.
Hard to believe it but no one should be surprised the breakdown was all over money.
Dolan strikes again. SMH

I was thinking the same thing. Mullin is in the HOF and Bernard King is not? I don’t get it.