Category Archives: 2010 trade deadline
It would appear that the Knicks are focusing on this Nate deal in an attempt to bring in picks so they can complete the McGrady deal, at least that’s the impression I’m getting. No deal done yet.
UPDATE:
Via Larry Coon:
“NY can take in $2,625,223 for Nate due to BYC, House makes $2,862,000. So NY needs to send out more. [...] Conversely, BOS can accept up to $3,677,750 for House, and Nate would be $4 million incoming. BOS needs to send out more too.”
this would seem to put a wrench in a House / 2nd round exchange…
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From Hahn again:
“Nate trade not “official” but done – and @WojYahooNBA says may not finalize until tomorrow – but sounds like it is House/2nd Rnd pick.”
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Via Alan Hahn:
“Nate Robinson trade with Celtics done, I’m told. Getting details now…..”
Theme of the day: stay tuned…
The Daily News is reporting a source saying that Donnie Walsh,
“is not giving up on Jordan,” saying the source, “He told me he’s not trading him.”
“It’s less likely than it was on Monday,” said a person familiar with the negotiations. “But you never know.”
That last line says it all. I’ve heard from a few people now that certain players in the deal feel comfortable they are staying. But, this seems to come down to the picks situation, as we’ve reported all along.
Celtics and Lakers are discussing deals for Nate Robinson with the Knicks, sources tell Marc Spears(@SpearsNBAYahoo.)
Remember, the Celtics can’t trade this year’s first round pick…
From what I’m gathering, the Knicks would want picks and the Lakers don’t have one to give this year via the Gasol trade.
Stay tuned…
“…Troy Murphy, 29, has been on the Cleveland Cavaliers’ list of targets, but the Cavs remain focused on deals for Phoenix’s Amar’e Stoudemire or the Washington Wizards’ Antawn Jamison(notes). Murphy will make nearly $12 million next season, and getting him off the books will give the Pacers some flexibility in free agency.
The Bucks also had interest in New York’s Al Harrington(notes) but would prefer Murphy to play alongside center Andrew Bogut(notes). Murphy is averaging 14 points for the Pacers, who are destined for another lottery season…”
Does that mean that they still have interest in Al? Any time you hear the Bucks you’d have to think Ridnour, and throwing in Joe Alexander makes a match.
“…Elsewhere on the trade front, there is the possibility that reserve point guard Sergio Rodríguez could find himself wearing a different jersey soon. Sources said Memphis, New York and New Jersey have all inquired about the little-used fourth-year player, who is in the final season of his contract.
A potential trade may not result in the Kings taking back a player and instead saving the remaining money on Rodríguez’s salary this season of $1.8 million…”
Rule the Nets out from what I’m hearing, but the Griz could use a backup PG. Rodriguez isn’t much of an upgrade over Chris Duhon, as he can’t really shoot and turns the ball over a TON, but seems to fit D’Antoni’s system much better.
Rodriguez has a qualifying offer for next year.
Oh, and interesting, isn’t it, that S-Rod hasn’t played in 3 of his last 4 games, except against the Knicks. (more…)
“…I have confirmed that the teams have renewed discussions, but there is one major thing to keep in mind: Robinson is what’s known as a base-year compensation player, which can be a complicating factor. Robinson makes $4 million, but the Knicks can take back a maximum of only $2.02 million in returning salary…”
Would the Knicks merely be looking for a late first round pick in exchange for Nate? I think there would have to be more, but as we know there are complications matching salaries. I mean, the team can probably just buy into the end of the first round.
Obviously, Walsh is trying to soften the blow of giving up the reported number of picks to Houston by shopping Robinson.
As far as the restrictions on the draft picks that Houston is waiting to hear back on, they can be very complicated. See the Marcus Williams/NJ Nets deal where the Nets received a 1st round pick in return that is (lottery protected in 2011, top 11 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013. *If it is not conveyed by 2013, the Nets get second-round picks in 2013 and 2015). (more…)
“…Knicks president Donnie Walsh is discussing the draft-pick proteciton issue with Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan, and once the Rockets receive word on the protection issue, they will choose between offers from the Knicks and Bulls, a person with knowledge of the negotiations said.
The situation was developing quickly Tuesday night, as another person directly involved in the negotiations predicted only hours earlier that Houston’s decision would go “down to the wire” between the Knicks and Bulls. A third person with knowledge of the talks cautioned that the situation was still evolving, partially because the Bulls had multiple avenues to pursue in trying to enhance their offer.
The framework of the Bulls’ offer is believed to include Brad Miller, Tyrus Thomas, and either Kirk Hinrich or John Salmons — a combination reported Tuesday night by the Chicago Tribune. If Hinrich were involved, the deal would likely have another player going to Chicago with McGrady. The Bulls do not have any extra first-round picks, and thus might be compelled to seek out a third team to sweeten their offer. Minnesota and Memphis are among the teams with extra first-round picks to offer in a three-team scenario.
In the race for 2010 cap space, the Knicks apparently are so determined to complete their plan of creating enough flexibility to acquire two max free agents this summer that they are willing to include their own 2012 first-round pick; they do not have a 2010 first-round pick, having dealt it to Phoenix in the ill-fated Stephon Marbury trade. (Utah now owns the pick.)…”
Update: Not so fast says Ken Berger:
“…Bulls still in mix based on final issue to be resolved: Protection on first-round pick going from NY-HOU, sources say…Once Rockets receive word on protection, they’ll decide between NY and CHI for T-Mac…”
“…The New York Knicks are finalizing a deal to acquire Houston Rockets forward Tracy McGrady, an NBA source told SI.com.
The framework of the deal involves sending McGrady to New York for forward Jared Jeffries, guard Larry Hughes and forward Jordan Hill. The Knicks and Rockets have agreed to swap 2011 first round picks and the Knicks will send the Rockets their first round pick in 2012.
The only outstanding issues involve protection for the draft picks.
The deal could be completed as early as tomorrow…”
We’ll know more tomorrow. Based on our poll, 80% of you are in agreement.
LISTEN TO Adrian Wojnarowski’s PODCAST ON WFAN as he talks about all the deals heading into Wednesday of trade week.
Oh, by the way, there’s a game going on tonight.
Latest I’ve heard on the McGrady trade is that it may be shrinking in terms of pieces, but we’ll see.
So tough to gauge. This one will have to be a wait and see come Thursday, I believe. Last night I heard the Woj report was on Walsh’s plate, others have said Morey is holding the cards and is mulling other offers.
No one really knows.
If the Rockets have a better offer for Mac than what the Knicks have reportedly offered, I’m really curious to hear what that turns out to be. I mean, those covering the Rockets believe Chicago is in the mix and they want cap space too. I’m not sure a package starting with Kirk Hinrich and Brad Miller trumps what the Knicks have.
Stay tuned…
In his blog for the NY Times, cap guru Larry Coon spells out what the Knicks would
have going for them should the proposed deal happen.
“…With an estimated $53 million cap next summer, the Knicks would stand to have as much as $31.5 million with which to pursue free agents. The cream of the crop — LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh — can each sign for $16.57 million, so the Knicks can almost afford two of them. They would still be about $1.7 million short of making a maximum offer to two of these players.
But they would have options. One scenario would be to sign one of these players for the full $16.57 million and then pursue a player on the next rung down, like Atlanta’s Joe Johnson, who might sign for slightly less.
Another scenario would be to sign a maximum-salary free agent while hanging onto David Lee. Lee will continue to count against the Knicks’ cap while he is a free agent, unless the Knicks sign him or renounce him, or he signs elsewhere. To gain the full $31.5 million of cap room they would need to renounce Lee, along with all their other free agents. If they renounce everyone else, Lee would eat up an additional $10 million of their cap space, leaving them with about $21.5 million to spend on other players.
The Knicks could then sign a premier free agent for $16.57 million, leaving them with another $4.9 million to spend on a second player. These two acquisitions would bring them right up to the salary cap, after which they would re-sign Lee. Since the Knicks own Lee’s Bird rights, they could exceed the cap to re-sign him — offering him more than his $10.5 million cap hold…”
For argument’s sake let’s say that the Knicks and the Rockets proposal would send Larry Hughes, Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries and an unprotected 2012 pick for Tracy McGrady Joey Dorsey and Brian Cook and the rite to swap picks next year.
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