Category Archives: David Lee

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Knicks Have Edge in Bosh S&T?

by Tommy Dee on June 21st, 2010 at 9:50 am

Via Hoopsworld

“…If the Raptors are just interested in cash, draft picks, or a trade exception, teams with cap space will be their preferred partner.  But in a bidding war, even these teams could have to come with the hard assets Colangelo likely covets.

New York may have the edge with the possibility of returning their UFA David Lee by way of a sign-and-trade, and if New York lands Bosh, can James be far behind?  Don’t think for minute that this isn’t precisely what Cleveland fears and New York dreams.

Miami may in the toughest spot having little more than Michael Beasley and draft picks to offer.  New Jersey is in the similar position of having limited assets to offer in a sign-and-trade deal except for the very enticing third overall pick in this year’s draft!

Chicago has assets Toronto may want, but are they willing to part with them?  Easier targets for Chicago may include Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudemire.

The Houston Rockets have some desirable assets and a good package could be put together, but the Lakers just won their second consecutive championship and trading one of their key players seems unlikely.

The possibility of obtaining David Lee has probably set the floor for opening bids; the Raptors will have little incentive to seriously consider offers that are not equal or better. Even if Lee isn’t willing to come to Toronto, the mere possibility gives Colangelo significant leverage during negotiations. Teams hoping to get a deal done with a trade exception are probably going to be lining up third teams to get involved…”

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To be Fair, the Daily News Has a Message for the King

by Tommy Dee on June 20th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

Via NY Daily News:

“…A bit more bad news: If the Knicks can’t convince David Lee to return next season, your best supporting castmate will be 6-11 Danilo Gallinari, who shoots threes like Steve Nash – and rebounds like him, too. And the next clutch shot this roster hits will be its first.

If you couldn’t win it all with a sharpshooting point guard (Mo Williams), a Hall of Fame center at the end of his career (Shaq) and a fill-it-up veteran small forward (Antawn Jamison), will this cast of characters serve your Highness any better?..”

Relatively fair, except for the Gallinari rebounds like Steve Nash/clutch shot thing. He had 10 or more rebounds 6 times this season. Not overly impressive, but you don’t get credit for rebounding a made shot. Clearly this piece  is a counter to this. I guess in the tabloids there has to be some…wait for it…attempts at “balance.” Sadly, you just wished members of the NY media actually watched the Knicks every night. It’s so transparent those who don’t. I mean his “next clutch shot will be his first” is the writer’s way of saying, “I gotta be honest, I only saw him play, like, twice.”

Via Big C.

Also, check out my boy Matt from Slam’s interview with DLee (via Posting and Toasting)

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BT Makes his Predictions

by Tommy Dee on June 19th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

I’ve been checking out his blog lately and it continues to impress. BT insists that no one knows where they are going as of yet. But here are his predictions for the upcoming summer, followed by mine.

“…Since everyone else is secondary, grab a dart, and fire away!

Lebron James: 3 year extension with the Cavs, followed by a similar deal with the Knicks–or Nets

Dwayne Wade: staying put

Chris Bosh: Miami

Amare Stoudamire: Knicks or Nets

Carlos Boozer: Nets (Knicks could be in play as well, depending upon Amare)

Joe Johnson: Knicks (4-year deal, nowhere near max-money)

David Lee: No clue…might very well be among the last FA’s standing. So much depends on what transpires with the elite players, but I think the Knicks and Nets are in play

Dirk Nowitski: Mavs

Rudy Gay: (restricted FA) stays in Memphis but T Wolves will pursue aggressively…”

I don’t see James signing a 3 year deal with the Cavs. If he stays, i hope he stays forever. That said, I think he’ll be in NY and I don’t think it’s a given it’s with either Bosh or Amar’e. But odds are that each of the bigs will join James in NY and Wade in Miami. I keep hearing that Miami is a play for the big 3, but I simply can’t see that happening. (more…)

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Lee Working On D…

by Tommy Dee on June 11th, 2010 at 6:43 am

A few weeks back, David Lee‘s agent Mark Bartlestein was on the radio with Brandon Tierney and he mentioned that D-Lee was working on his three point game and stretching to the perimeter.  Why isn’t he working on his defense you ask?

He is.

I recently spoke to a source with knowledge who assured me Lee is working to become a better defender.

“David is continuing to work on improving aspects to his offensive game including extending his range to the perimeter, he’s committed to working hard and focusing on becoming a better defender,” the source said. “He’s a student of the game. He’s working on strength, footwork and paying attention to the playoffs in terms of sound defensive situations.”

Defense, to me, is about team. It’s also about effort and some skill, but as we like to say for the most part defense takes pretty much zero talent. At the NBA level, there is skill and talent. Lee has been pretty poor defensively, but the common denominator is that every team he’s been on has been brutal as well.

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BT: What to Make of the Lee Situation

by Tommy Dee on June 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 am

Brandon Tierney has done a lot for this blog and while I don’t always agree with him, I think he’s a tremendous sports mind and perfect for the airwaves in NY. He’s that good.

He’s started his own blog and it’s a great read. Similar to the thoughts he brings on both SNY and ESPN 1050. He wrote a piece on David Lee.

“…In many ways, David Lee is a victim of terrible timing, and possibly in every way, David Lee picked the worst time to blow up…even if it means getting paid.

You see, the one guy who did everything right from Day 1, might not even have a chance to stay, even if he’s fair to the Knicks and gives them a hometown discount.

How incredibly unfair is that?

How is it that Eddy Curry, a complete zero with no professional pride or instincts, how the heck is he still here, while David Lee, the crowd favorite, an All-Star, gets shoved out the door? After watching a stream of mid level busts and failed draft picks disrespect the orange and blue uniform for nearly a decade, is there no other answer but to let David Lee walk?

My gut?

He’s a goner, and depending upon what happens this summer, it’s probably the right move…”

BT does a great job also treading the fine line yet making a clear point about David’s skin color. He’s obviously much more than just a pretty good white guy. Frankly, I like Lee a lot. No one can tell me he can’t improve defensively based on the points BT made in the post. It has to be under the right circumstances and it can be if James comes to NY and Lee takes less money, the team can bring in a few more key pieces. Lee was not the leader in the locker room this season and it impacted the team in my opinion.

Will he get the chance is the real question.

Lee’s agent Mark Bartlestein did such a putrid job in judging the market last year, he may have lost Lee a ton of credibility in this year’s marketplace. Lee got no offers last year. Zero. I mean, he may have done the worst job by an agent in NBA history.

Why do I think that? Because the entire NBA knew Donnie Walsh wouldn’t match any offers because of 2010 and yet no one put him in the position to make the tough decision regardling Lee. No offer sheets.Why? Because Bartlestein was greedy, and terribly mismanaged negotiations. Yet Lee kept him.

I know David Lee wants to be here and a ton of fans, in an ideal world, would want him too. If his agent is willing to be reasonable, the Knicks may move him up the list in terms of priortities.

I know this. It’s easy to turn your nose up at a player because a team isn’t winning, but if you let Lee’s lack of defense, which can get better, overshadow his obvious offensive talents, you’re making a big mistake. The numbers may be inflated, but when you see him live you know how good he is.

Now, how much is that worth is the ultimate question.

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David Lee Is a Community Guy

by Tommy Dee on May 6th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

Via NY Post-

“…This is where I want to be,” Lee told The Post during an appearance at the Empire State Building, where he volunteered his efforts for a non-profit organization. “I enjoy it here. I love the city. I have a lot of friends in the franchise. I do have ties here.

“They say the two hardest things to deal with [in New York] are the media and the fans, but I’ve found that to be the exact opposite. Having a following here is gonna make the Knicks want to sign me more and makes me want to be in New York.”

Coming off his best season and first All-Star appearance, Lee may have priced himself out of town. And if the Knicks sign two maximum salary free agents, as they hope to do, it doesn’t look like Lee will be giving up the green for the blue and orange.

“We’re gonna have to see what happens,” Lee said. “If they get two or three of those guys, there won’t be 50 cents to give to me. Winning is a huge priority. . . . Just finding a situation that fits, a situation that makes sense, quality of life factor, then also the financial side of it because this is a business…”

From what I know Lee is a big community guy and is involved in plenty of non-proft situations like this one. I think if he stays he’d be a tremendous asset to the community, as John Starks and Adam Graves are right now and have been particularly Graves, one of the most generous and beloved athletes this city has ever seen. It comes down to cost and options. Frankly, I think firing his agent would be a good place to start from a business standpoint.

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NY Post: Hornets Love Lee…But Would they Actually Want to Acquire Him?

by Chris Alvino on April 17th, 2010 at 12:56 am

I came across this bit in the Post.  According to Marc Berman, sources say that the Hornets are in love with free agent forward, David Lee.  As Berman points out and as we have all discussed extensively, the Knicks can trade for players without having to match salaries because they are under the salary cap.  Also as we all have discussed, point guard Chris Paul just so happens to be a player that would be of major interest to the Knicks if he was ever put on the trading block.

I have a couple of things to say here.  First of all, while the Hornets might love David Lee, I see the chances of his going there as being slim to none.  The Hornets currently have both David West and Emeka Okafor under contract for at least one more season.  I highly doubt that they would look to allocate their resources towards adding another PF making 11-12 million per season.  It just does not make sense for that team.  Of course, one of those two players can be involved in a sign & trade for Lee, but that might be getting a little too far ahead of myself.

As for Chris Paul, many of you know my take on him.  If there was a Plan B this summer to LeBron, Chris Paul would be it.  Even though this is the summer of LeBron, acquiring Chris Paul would be perhaps the best consolation prize possible.  Better than Wade.  Better than Bosh.  Etc., etc.  I think that highly of Chris Paul as a point guard and as a leader.  But as I have noted on other occassions, I have to believe that there will a long line that the Knicks would have to wait on before having a chance to even enter the Paul discussions.  There would be a huge market for Paul, and to be frank, the Knicks do not have the assets to get him.  Unless the Knicks decided to deal away Gallo and Chandler, I think that another franchise would be able to offer a better package.  The Nets, Grizzlies, Clippers, Warriors, and Wolves are five off the top of my head that could have interest and could offer better deals than the Knicks.  I would not get my hopes up for Paul.  I hope that I am wrong and as we all know, sometimes deals go down for business purposes, not necesarily basketball purposes.

Just to add to my Lee discussion above, if the Hornets are truly interested in him, then I would love to go after David West.  While Lee is probably a better option at this point, West will be a bit cheaper and can step in and produce at an all-star caliber level.  He fell under the radar a bit this year as many thought he underachieved relative to his 2008-2009 season, but this guy can ball.  He is a gamer and is a winner.  If the Hornets want Lee for the contract he will likely command, then perhaps West would be in play.  According to HoopsHype.com, West is under contract for next season at under $9 million, and holds a player option for the following season.

Just a thought…

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Lee’s Options

by Tommy Dee on April 16th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

Via NY Post-

“…But Walsh acknowledged the $32 million of cap space doesn’t have to be used this summer or for a free agent. Trades can now be easily made without matching salaries. With the Knicks still desperate for a point guard, they figure to talk to New Orleans to see if it is looking for assets for point guard Chris Paul, who will be a free agent in 2012 and may bolt the Big Easy.

According to a source, the Hornets are in love with David Lee, a free agent who is not the Knicks’ first priority…”

Via Dallas Morning News-

“…But to answer your question about Haywood, somebody’s going to pay him, probably with a deal in the $8 million-per-year range, if not more. And it very well could be the Mavericks, although they will have some other options.

You want to dream big? How would David Lee look in a Mavs uniform? He’s unrestricted, and if the Knicks have to renounce his rights to sign LeBron James and/or another max player, Lee would be available. The Mavericks wouldn’t be able to offer as much as other teams, but you never know how creative Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson can get…”

The Hornets are apparently experiencing financial difficulty and the Knicks would have to bring back salary if they consider the Hornets would be open to signing Lee to a contract. It’s a conversation that will be had, I’m sure. As I’ve said numerous times before, the Knicks won’t know about Lebron for some time, probably, so it makes sense to see what the sign and trade market is for Lee first.

Of course, that could change if Lee decides that an offer from the Mavs, should he receive one, or the Nets is too good to wait on.

If the team brings back Okafor, then they won’t bring in Marcus Camby, who should get some attention from the Miami Heat. Again, like I said before, I have zero issue with a Camby, Lee combination as long as Lee is signed for a reasonable number.  Camby and Lee combining for max dollars is better than any of the potential power forwards in my opinion to be paired with said star player.

Not sure where that ranks. Again, we’ll see.

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In Defense of Lee

by Tommy Dee on April 12th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

There is widespread thought that this could be David Lee‘s last home game as a Knick and with that comes plenty of thought and reflection.

I’ve noticed a lot of backlash when it comes to Lee from fans in the comments section. Some justified, some not.

It is no secret from anyone who follows the team that Lee doesn’t remind anyone of any member of the 1990s teams. Is that fair? I’m not sure it is. Lee’s played out of position and has had no real help. Would Darko Milicic have helped? Maybe, and it’s something I pushed for early in camp, but he was never given a look. To think that the team rested its hopes on the former second overall pick, to me, was a reach. But there needed to be plenty of reaches if this team were to make the playoffs. I, myself, thought they were capable.

I was wrong.

But as far as Lee is concerned let me say this. David is an impossible Knick not to like. He’s improved, drastically, every season, again except on defense. When we had Brandon Tierney on the radio several months ago, he talked about Lee’s passion to be a Knick, none more evident than attending Dick McGuire’s funeral. That’s pretty classy.

But in order to be a Knick, in the fan’s eyes, you have to put someone on their ass once in a while in the lane. Or step in and take a charge. But what no one can take away is the progress he’s made on the offensive end. I respect improvement. And what if he can actually stretch it out to the 3 point line?

I believe Lee has been victimized by the lack of interior help. That should change this summer as it’s on top of the list in terms of needs to be addressed. Dollar per dollar, would you rather have Bosh, Amar’e Okafor or Boozer? That’s a good question as they are or will be in the same financial ballpark, unless Lee really wants to make sure the team improves, he takes less and doesn’t logjam the cap.What if Lee and Camby, or a Ty Thomas sign for the same amount as any of the other stars? You get a 2 for 1, with room to still add players.

Lee is an All-Star and should have been voted one. I campaigned for him as far back as early-December, when everyone was jocking Brook Lopez. The Knicks were playing well and he was simply awesome.  When you think back to him being drafted 30th and sitting behind the likes of Channing Frye and ultimately Zach Randolph, Lee didn’t pout or complain. I respect that. If you  defended Z-Bo’s 20 and 10 when he was traded to the Knicks, then you have to defend Lee’s as well. You have to be fair.

In New York, if you are a star and an All-Star fans expect wins. That’s fair. Fans also expect leadership, which is a knock that I’ve had. The team needs a general on and off the court. Expect that to be addressed.

Honestly if the money is right, and to me that means 8-9 million here, I have every reason to believe that Lee will focus on his defense and be much improved next year. Why would I think otherwise? Yes, he should have focused on it before, but now it’s out there. Now it’s essential. Judging what we’ve learned about Lee, the guy wants to improve and holds himself accountable. He’s always been open to criticism, another thing that I respect tremendously. (more…)

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D’Antoni: Lee Can Stay if…

by Tommy Dee on April 12th, 2010 at 8:57 am

Via Daily News-

“I’m sure it will be an interesting feeling  just not knowing my future,” Lee said. “I felt it a little bit last year even though I was a restricted free agent. I have good memories in this place.”

Mike D’Antoni praised Lee as an ambassador for the organization last week, saying he is good in the community. Sunday, the head coach made a pitch for Lee as a basketball player, telling reporters that he’d like Lee to return to his natural position, power forward, next season. But on one condition.

“He just needs a long athletic guy besides him,” D’Antoni said.

Of course, one of the advantages Lee had as a center was his quickness and his efficiency in pick and rolls. But Lee is also a defensive liability at center, which concerns Walsh…”

This is of particular interest to me because D’Antoni doesn’t mention that the “long, athletic” player needs to be able to shoot with range. I was always under the impression that space is created by moving the 4 position further away from the basket. If Lee were to play the 4 he doesn’t stretch to the 3-point line.

Either way, Camby is the player you’d envision in the long and athletic mode. Earl Barron has the long part down. Emeka Okafor is pretty long and athletic. Ty Chandler?


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